Dhimmi "campus police were nearby, but 'just stood around watching and, instead of protecting the College Republican students from the mob that was pouring drinks on our table and materials, and even physically assaulting our members, only suggested that the campus Republicans leave rather than arrest those responsible for the violence.'" From FrontPage, with thanks to EPG:
San Francisco, November 1, 2004- A mob of Arab students at San Francisco State University attacked a group of College Republicans on the San Francisco State University campus at noon today during a “Turnout the Vote” event in front of the campus student union building.Derek Wray, President of the SFSU College Republicans, told Front Page Magazine that an angry mob of Palestinian students attacked the club’s table, as well as individual members of the Republican club who were handing out pro-Bush/Cheney campaign materials. According to Wray, campus police were nearby, but “just stood around watching and, instead of protecting the College Republican students from the mob that was pouring drinks on our table and materials, and even physically assaulting our members, only suggested that the campus Republicans leave rather than arrest those responsible for the violence.”
Wray said the incident began when four Palestinian women from the General Union of Palestinian Students (GUPS) on the S.F. State campus approached the CRs’ table and began a verbal tirade. “You and the Jews want to kill all the Muslims!” one screamed at Wray. “You and Ariel Sharon want to kill innocent Palestinian babies.” A larger crowd of male Arab students then joined in creating a threatening mob in front of the table.
“When one of the Republican students asked one of the women that if she hated America so much, why she didn’t leave, she screamed at him ‘I have some pride. I would strap a bomb on myself and blow myself up as a suicide bomber rather than call myself an American,’”according to Wray. He said the woman also ranted that terrorists are “freedom fighters.”
“One woman said she’d blow up the College Republicans on campus,” Wray continued. “They began throwing food at us and even tried to tip over our table.” The campus police did nothing. Instead of separating them from our table, they kept pulling me aside and asking if we were willing to leave.”
One of the Arab women even began hitting one of the male college Republicans who deflected her blows with his arms. “She got right into his face screaming and trying to hit him. When he deflected one of her blows she then yelled to the male Arabs present that the Republican student was hitting a woman.” This is a tactic used frequently in demonstrations lately, where pro-Palestinian demonstrators send women in to physically assault demonstrators from opposing groups then claim that women are being attacked when they are physically stopped by victims....
The SFSU Palestinian student attack on non-Jewish students who support Israel suggests the potential for a ramping up of attacks on college campuses by pro-Palestinian groups. Jewish students on U.S. campuses are feeling increasingly threatened by Arab groups on campus, and now the question comes up if the same can be said of conservative students who are not Jewish.
What disgusting vermin infests US universities! Who the hell do they think they are? How dare they act like that? Oh, I forgot, they're Muslims afterall. They can't help but act like that. Like feral lunatics prone to violence and rabid hatred & intolerance. Look at who they follow.
How awful for the youth of today that they have to go to university and be inflicted with such mongrels. University and college should be a place where you learn and grow, not where you have to put up with feral politics from violent lunatics.
There was a CBC special called 'DisCordia" and it showed the terroristic style attack on the Concordia University by the pro-palastinian students group that didn't want a Jewish speaker to appear on campus to participate at a lecture
in a auditorium.
They spit on the people wearing skullcaps and then smashed windows after being asked to leave school property. These were savage animals filled with so much hate that they border on being human,the leader of the riot wasn't arrested and bragged on Tv that he was pleased how things turned out because the terrorism halted the event
and stopped a Zionist from speaking in Canada.
The Universities in Canada are know for the Arab and Palestinian violence that's disguised as free speech and political activism,even after a Islamic leader asserted on public Tv that all Israelis over 18 are valid targets for murder by suicide bombers,our gutless Liberal Government in Ontario wouldn't charge him with a "Hate crime" that Muslim always demand when perceived anti-Muslim comments are made.
Thanks to the Arabs at Concordia that use violence and terror to protest,no more jewish speakers are being allowed on campus because the
middle east students can't assure the University
there won't be any rioting caused by the Zionists on campus.
It looks like Arabs and Muslims are so predisposed to violence and murder that only Christians and Jews are seen as able to live by
the higher standards and accept responsibility
for their action that my break the law.
How sad that 1.2 Billion people aren't pressured to strive for high moral and ethical behaviour.
Allah knows all,and if you murder to defend Islam then it was Allah will for your life.
Once all the non-Muslims are wiped out there
will still be no peace because the bad Muslims
will be the next enemy of Allah.
NO ISLAM KNOW PEACE
This behaviour is prevalent on many university campuses in the UK as well. The governing bodies are scared witless of being accused of Islamophobi and so fascism reigns and Jewish, Hindu, Sikh and Christian students are intimidated with impunity.
The campus police are what bother me in all this. I can expect the usual behaviour from the Islamic individuals, but the police need a backbone here to defend what was a legal assembly of minority students (I assume the CRs are in the minority at SFSU) from attack. Somebody should lose their job due to this.
Non-American Arab muslims getting an education at the expense of American taxpayers...
Advice to all Republicans on college campuses...have camera, tape recorder and witnesses...
These muslim women threatened suicide bombings...they should have been arrested for their verbal threats and physical assaults.
Time to make an example of them.
Nothing to say, keithjoy? These are your people in action. This is the kind of people your DNC leadership rejoices in; this is being Politically Correct. Please, by all means, support islam.
And I did not wish to say this on the Van Gogh thread, but: I wonder. Which writers and thinkers out there today, are in mourning of him?
I very much doubt there will be many Leftists among them.
I didn't realize that Montreal's Concordia University (aka Gaza U) had opened another campus in San Francisco. It seems that guaranteees of freedom of speech and assembly only apply selectively in either country.
Time for deportation.
C'mon Gary... ...you know where KJ is today (or did you post this before his "poll-watching" post vis Osama's little video and its impact on today's vote.
I'd agree with you about the "leftist thinkers", which has seemingly grown to be an oxymoron, with a few exceptions like Paul Berman (author of Terrorism and Liberalism), who, if he weighs in, will not be on the side of the Jihadists.
We'll have to wait and see if picking off Van Gogh boomerangs in the jihadists' faces.
If the following article (exactly the same, only a few words have been changed) were printed in the news instead, what would be the outcry THIS TIME? Who would be taking up arms, spears, clubs and torches NOW and eliminating these BASTARDS from America's shores?!?!
San Francisco, November 1, 2004- A mob of NAZI students at San Francisco State University attacked a group of College Republicans on the San Francisco State University campus at noon today during a “Turnout the Vote” event in front of the campus student union building.
Derek Wray, President of the SFSU College Republicans, told Front Page Magazine that an angry mob of NAZIs attacked the club’s table, as well as individual members of the Republican club who were handing out pro-Bush/Cheney campaign materials. According to Wray, campus police were nearby, but “just stood around watching and, instead of protecting the College Republican students from the mob that was pouring drinks on our table and materials, and even physically assaulting our members, only suggested that the campus Republicans leave rather than arrest those NAZIs responsible for the violence.”
Wray said the incident began when four NAZI women from the General Union of NAZI Students (GUPS) on the S.F. State campus approached the CRs’ table and began a verbal tirade. “You and the Jews want to kill all the NAZIs!” one screamed at Wray. “You and Ariel Sharon want to kill innocent NAZI babies.” A larger crowd of male NAZI students then joined in creating a threatening mob in front of the table.
“When one of the Republican students asked one of the NAZI women that if she hated America so much, why she didn’t leave, she screamed at him ‘I have some pride. I would strap a bomb on myself and blow myself up as a suicide bomber rather than call myself an American,’”according to Wray. He said the woman also ranted that NAZIs are “freedom fighters.”
“One NAZI woman said she’d blow up the College Republicans on campus,” Wray continued. “They began throwing food at us and even tried to tip over our table.” The campus police did nothing. Instead of separating them from our table, they kept pulling me aside and asking if we were willing to leave.”
One of the NAZI women even began hitting one of the male college Republicans who deflected her blows with his arms. “She got right into his face screaming and trying to hit him. When he deflected one of her blows she then yelled to the male NAZIs present that the Republican student was hitting a woman.” This is a tactic used frequently in demonstrations lately, where pro-NAZI demonstrators send women in to physically assault demonstrators from opposing groups then claim that women are being attacked when they are physically stopped by victims....
The SFSU NAZI student attack on non-Jewish students who support Israel suggests the potential for a ramping up of attacks on college campuses by pro-NAZI groups. Jewish students on U.S. campuses are feeling increasingly threatened by NAZI groups on campus, and now the question comes up if the same can be said of conservative students who are not Jewish.
And why should we not believe that these these beliefs, attitudes, feelings are the majority view among Muslim students and Muslim Student Associations throughout the United States? Why not?
And why the explosion at SFSU? Because these folks think they can get away with it;the culture of San Francisco State encourages this. Again, triumph encourages violence. Here is another example on one of our own campuses.
There should be an assumption made that this is the majority view; the stakes are too high. If there is a 10% chance a gun is loaded, one presumes it is. MSA at SFSU should be investigated, shut down, and Muslims students who even raise an eyebrow of suspicion should be sent home. Citizens should be arrested, questioned, suspended from SFSU, and subject to massive civil litigation
Our right as citizens to civil protection supercedes any privileges these students have as international guests.
Send them home! Send them home now!!!
To: Waterdragon 52
Re: Your comment - "leftist thinkers" = oxymoron...
OUTSTANDING.
we allow muslims into the USA at our peril
this behavior is just the beginning
Michael Savage does his show out of San Francisco, since the pussyfied Campus Police wouldn't do anything about these animals, perhaps the FBI and Michael Savage needs to be notified.
It's just a shame that these vermin don't start shit like this in some of our pubs, where they could receive the true definition of an All-American ass whippin'......
The FBI should be made aware of this stupid bitch that said she'd strap on a bomb and blow people up.......Michael Savage will also address the issue.
Please touch base because the shit is about to hit the fan.....
https://tips.fbi.gov/ is the link to send this story to the FBI, I can't do this all by my onesey......
For anyone who's interested, here is the e-mail address of the Department of Public Safety at SFSU:
dps@sfsu.edu
The head of the SFSU DPS is Chief Kimberly Wible.
These Muslims and law enforcement had better put a stop to this. If the Muslims don’t put a stop to this and law enforcement agencies don’t do their job and condone it, the citizens will have to take the necessary steps to protect themselves. Make no mistake about it - it will happen. “One Of These Days.............”
From now on, hidden cameras should videotape those who might be likely victims of such violence and intimidation. Rather than try to prevent such attacks, it would be better to find ways to identify those involved, so that the grounds for their deportation could be captured on film. If there is not yet in place appropriate legislation, to punish by deportation those who are non-citizens, or to strip of citizenship, and then to deport, those whose behavior can be reasonably interpreted as supporting terrorism or the Jihad – and if someone proclaims her desire to be a suicide bomber, that would qualify – will, at least, change outward behavior.
This will buy time, to educate people as to the nature of Islam. Everyone who turns to the websites that discuss that real nature – www.dhimmitude.org, www.faithfreedom,org, www.secularislam.org, www.nojihad.org -- or who provide the texts of Qur’an and hadith (at www.usc.edu) and learns more about Islam – from its attitude toward music and art and scientific inquiry, to the inculcated hostility, at every level, toward all Infidels, to the seeming endorsement, through the example of Muhammad, of sexual intercourse with a nine-year-old child, even to the attitude toward dogs (Muhammad wanted all those that did not have specific jobs to be killed, and a number of Muslims act as if they think they should kill all dogs, especially black ones – if any dogs in your neighborhood have mysteriously disappeared, or you read about dogs discovered having been thrown into a nearby river in a bag – just look at the hadith and you may have your mystery solved) which may arouse dog-lovers in such places as England, who cannot – apparently – be aroused in any other way.
If the public demands it, Congress will pass laws carefully crafted to deal with such situations -- and to include deportation as the final step (we don’t need more Muslims conducting Da’wa in our prisons).. Just imagine if thise involved in this Brownshirts activity had been rounded up, arrested, convicted, and then deported. News of that fate would have gotten around.
American citizenship, in the case of naturalized citizens, need never be an obstacle to deportation. If it can be shown that such citizenship was obtained through an act of deliberate perjury, then it can certainly be revoked. And logically, how can one swear to uphold the American Constitution if, as a Believer in Islam, one clearly owes all one's loyalty to Islam, and to the Shari'a which, at almost every point, clashes with Constitutional rights? It is not possible. One need only quote chapter and verse in Islam about “freedom of conscience” (death as the appropriate punishment for apostasy), equality of the sexes (Qur’an and hadith say otherwise), equal treatment of religions (everything in Islam militates against this), loyalty to any system other than Shari’a except as a temporary expedient while Islam is still gaining a foothold. Expert witnesses, including historians and scholars of Islam and ex-Muslims -- Reza Afshari or Ibn Warraq, Anne-Marie Delcambre or Alexandre del Valle or Magdi Allam or Azam Kamguian or Irfan Khawaja, rather than those who, like John Esposito (relied on by some in the Clinton Administration as an “expert on Islam”) have been, and remain, recipients of Arab largesse, through the support of their little academic centers. No one who, directly or indirectly, has received such support, from Saudi, other Arab, or other Muslim sources, should any longer be listened to.
Even where governments fail to act, individuals may. The American government did not ban goods from Nazi Germany in the 1930s. This, however, would not prevent an individual from choosing not to buy a Voigtlander camera. Nor, in 1946, or later, choosing not to buy Communist-bloc goods – Polish hams, Baltic amber – that give enemies of the West hard currency (valyuta), sometimes through Vneshtorg.
The same can be done now. The Muslim world produces only one thing we need – oil. Everything conceivable should be done to find other sources of energy, further ways to conserve. If it were not for the Jihad, it would be in order to preserve the environment. But there are Muslims who come to the West. As long as they are not treated any differently, as long as they remain unhindered, or still worse – aided to settle down, permanently, and no effort is made to constrain efforts at Da’wa, or to increase Muslim political and economic power, then the situation one now sees all over Western Europe will be repeated here. Why should one remain passive?
Employers need not hire anyone whose belief-system, however disguised, remains immutably hostile toward those very employers, toward all non-Muslims, toward all the assumptions about human autonomy and freedom upon which the West has been built. Why would a museum hire someone whose belief-system endorses the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddhas, or Hindu temples, or Christian and Jewish artifacts? Why should a private school go out of its way to demonstrate, so self-regardingly for one and all, Muslim teachers who will undoubtedly make efforts to practice, in the most affable and sincere of ways, taqiyya/kitman, and to serve as “interfaith advisers” and help promote Muslim events (one can just imagine how this is proceeding in various private boarding schools, where the headmaster has not taken the trouble to consider carefully what Islam is all about, and other faculty members, wary though one or two might be, choose to keep their heads down, like Republicans in Berkeley or Cambridge). Why should a computer company, or an airline, hire Muslims who will certainly be security risks, and in any case sources of anxiety for all the other employees?
As far as services go, if one has a taste for Indian food, why not deliberately take one’s custom to those restaurants where the serving of alcohol, and the Hindu deities on the wall, give one some confidence that one is not, inadvertently, supporting Pakistani fanaticism, or those who, while not fanatics themselves, lend force of numbers to local Muslim groups, mosques, increasing Muslim economic and political clout. Why, if one makes up one’s own little list of names likely to imply Arab ownership (this would require checking), restaurants named “the Middle East” or Oasis or Jericho, or all those phony “Italian” and “Greek” and “Mediterranean cuisine” places that were the result of hasty makeovers by Arab owners and staff after 9/11, should one not act on that – and choose to go elsewhere? Is this not precisely the same thing as not buying that German camerain 1938, or that Soviet amber in 1953? Of course it is.
And if one knows that a certain party is deeply involved in CAIR, or similar groups, then one can attempt to make sure that at least one does not, and others who listen to you , do not help to make things still easier than our lax and passive society has already made them. Let us suppose you learn of a successful carpet company, such as Carpet Mills of America, owned by someone who has just been arrested for support of terrorism. One can boycott Carpet Mills of America products. One can let stores know that as long as they carry such products, you will not be buying from them. Eventually, it should have some effect.
What about doctors and computer engineers from Muslim countries? There are many unemployed computer engineers in this country. Why one would wish either to train, or to employ people in advanced technology, where they may—either here or if they return home, as did so many of Saddam Hussein’s weapons scientists after receiving their education in the United States or Great Britain – Muslims in any branch of science or engineering? At this point, we have a stake in preventing their ability to create weapons systems – and for the same reason the entire Western world should be limiting its training of Muslim pilots. Let them train themselves. This is a long-term problem, and no amount of prating about how everyone wants “democracy” and “freedom” will get away from the problem of ideology.
The late Professor Louis Hartz of Harvard was fond of noting how “non-ideological” American politics had been, compared to that of Europe. It is certainly true that Americans tend not to understand the importance of ideas – even primitive ideas – and a set of ideas becomes a belief-system. Strange, in some ways, because the entire country, and capitalism itself, is based on a belief that advertising works. What one hears, what on reads, what is constantly dinned into one’s skull, has an effect on how one spends one’s money, on what you eat, with what you furnish your house, what car you drive, and son on.
Yet, confronted with a large number of people all of whom keep going back to the same texts – the texts they read, the texts they hear, the texts that provide that warp and weft of allusion, and of imagery, those texts that provide a complete and elaborate system of Total Regulation, these texts that tell one what to think of non-adherents, Infidels, people who do not share that belief-system, those texts that provide justification, and consolation, and a complete alternative universe – including retreat into a factitious “Glorious Past” that is constantly repaired to to make up for a not-so-glorious present (and a present made not-so-glorious, if only the analysis were made correctly, precisely because of that belief-system) – we, the Americans, and other members of the Western world, simply do not take that belief-system seriously. We do not read, and re-read, and think about, and read some more, what it is that Muslims, Muslim theologians, Muslim jurisconsults, Muslim political figures, Muslim journalists, come back to again and again. Until those in London and Rome and Paris and Moscow and Washington thoroughly understand this, and see that it has almost nothing, really, to do with how, objectively, Infidels behave (did not the Americans rescue the Muslims of Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnia? Have they not spent $200 billion in Iraq to rescue people from a monstrous regime? It doesn’t matter, for they are Infidels, and the sooner this is understood in Washington, by all those bright-eyed Wilsonians (Richard Pipes long ago took Wolfowitz’ measure – a brilliant “systems analyst” who had no understanding of the effect of history, and culture, on humans was how Pipes put it in an interview in the Boston Sunday Globe).
One can serve as a kind of adjunct to the security services. As one learns that “Oasis” may be Arab-owned, one begins to detect the “Ramzi” behind “Ramsay” and the “Mo” that is short, not for Morris or Moshe, but for “Mohammed.” And one knows that just like the cigarette-smuggling ring, a large number of small convenience stores and gas stations that insist on “Cash Only” policies may be owned, or run by, Arabs and other Muslims. It would help the state revenue department if, in the case of skimming, there were those who made it a point to be extra-observant. For whether such skimming is done in order to send money to a certain group abroad, or for other reasons, it is true that when the Federal government had no other way to convict Al Capone, they finally put him away for tax evasion. All sensible Infidels will want to lessen and weaken the presence of those who adhere to this belief-system that is so difficult to uproot, and so dangerous, wherever it has conquered – whether by force, or through aggressive Da’wa (as in Indonesia, where no Arab or other Muslim armies conquered outright)—to the wellbeing of Infidels.
The next time you see a “Cash Only” sign at that Arab or Muslim-owned grocery store or gas station, and you have reason to believe that the bookkeeping is less than perfect, take note of when you get a receipt. Do you have to ask for it, or is it given to you automatically.
Unthinkable, you say, for people to act as adjuncts of the F.B.I. or the police or the revenue services? Why? Why is it any more unthinkable than, as noted above, boycotting Nazi Germany (or reporting on Nazi sympathizers in 1942)? If you had been at Intel, knowing what you now know, would you have given employment to Mike Hawash? If you, knowing what you now know about Muslim attitudes toward Infidels, had to choose a doctor to deliver your wife’s baby, or to treat you or your children, would you repose your faith in the universal appeal of the Hippocratic Oath, or would you feel – just a bit, just enough to make you embarrassed at your own worries, your own mistrust – that perhaps a Muslim doctor treating a non-Muslm patient might be just fine, or might not be – and you have no certain way of knowing.
We can already observe the absence of what , in the West, are regarded as professional standards in the way, for example, that a group of “professors” of Middle Eastern origin have, at Columbia University, treated some of their students, and the cavalier manner as well in which they not only cancel classes or devout precious class time to political matters utterly irrelevant to the subjects they are supposed to be teaching (what does the supposed “crimes of the Zionists” have to do with medieval Islamic science?). One may receive some degree of education and formation in the West, or even be born here, but the apologetics, the mistrepresentations, the desire to protect at all cost, out of filial piety if for no other reason, are so much an aspect of Muslim because one arrives here, or receives one’s education here, or has lived here for several decades, one has somehow put the influence of Islam, and of the general defensiveness, apologetics, and lies that so many of its adherents so naturally repair to, will somehow magically disappear from one's mental baggage, is silly. And even the most outwardly "moderate" adherent, it appears, can metamorphose into something else. Mohammad Atta was the son of a well-off lawyer, interested in urbanistics, and many others -- including Mike Hawash, a successful computer engineer at Intel -- are known to have become, at some point, more religious -- with the results that we have all seen. The texts are not a secret; anyone can look at them. Anyone can imagine the influence of those texts on those whose early life, or whose identity now, are linked to, influenced by, those texts. Nothing can change the texts. Infidels cannot detect the person who will never take them seriously, from the very many who always have taken them seriously, from those who, while seemingly less interested, can become interested overnight. In such circumstances, the most stringent measures of self-protection need to be taken -- and some of them are outlined above.
If you heard tomorrow that the Rijksmuseum or the Louvre, had been destroyed by Muslim terrorists, a few thousand museum-goers and the art that was in large part an offense agaisnt Islam -- would it surprise you? A few years ago it would certainly have surprised you.
But now? Now nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise you about Muslim terrorism. Ask yourself why, and ask yourself in that case what measures should Infidel peoples and polities be prepared now to take, for their own survival and wellbeing?
Why didn't the Campus Police arrest those who were attacking the College Republicans.....yes, of course I know the answer to that question ....because it would be a racist attack on the Muslims....although we all know that Muslim/Islam is not a race.
Why college campuses have become so anti-semetic is obvious - the tenured professors and the guest professors/lecturers are preaching/teaching this hate as "truth".
I confront this constantly in the public school system in which I teach! Muslims are invited in to explain the religion of peace, but no other religion is allowed to explain their religion to the students in the World Studies Classes - after all there is only one world religion - Islam, right?
jihan
We are,irresponsibly allowing muslims to come to our country,and then we have to spend billions of dollars to protect ourselves from their murderous actions.
We allow muslims to benefit from our great free society,while we supress the freedom of speech of our own people,in our own country.
We deny our own religion,we fight against the ten commandemnts,the pledge of allegiance,the american flag,our traditional religious hollidays such as Christmas,Easter,etc,but we glorify islam as a religion of peace and we impose it on our children in school.
Americans are being beheaded in the name of Allah,and we allow muslims to use loudspeakers to call for prayers,5 times a day,in our cities.
We allow crosses to be removed from the public view(LA official seal)but we give permission to muslim students to leave early for prayers and while in school,we give them special rooms for prayers....
All these things are happening in our great country,as we speak.
Our survival as a nation,our religion,our traditions are all at stake.
If we don`t do something dramatic about it and if we don`t do it now,it will soon be too late.
We have to start with eliminating the enemy within,namely the liberal left,newspapers and tv networks,liberal left politicians at all levels.
Then we have to concentrate on the muslim threat itself.
But how and what exactly has to be done,I DON`T KNOW.
God bless America.
Maybe the College Republicans at SFSU ought to go to court and sue the school for dereliction of duty, while filing some assault and battery charges at the people who attacked them. It's utterly inexcusable how universities and colleges feel obligated to turn a blind-eye to Leftist and Muslim violence.
Perhaps the campus does have some video of this incident via security monitoring stations.
This article doesn't identify the security guards by name . . . it would be beneficial to learn the identities of guards mentioned. It is far more effective to write/post complaints that identify 'by name' each incompetent individual that dons a uniform representing campus security(hence: receives compensation/benefits/ recognition for performing tasks per job description).
I personally believe that Chief Kimberly Wible will not be inclined to address this issue unless we can identify the incompetent individuals by name.
With all the available pocket size technology available, someone should have access to either photographs or video of this incident. BTW, NAZI's love to document their illicit activities with video footage - arrogant turds seek recognition by boasting on relevant websites.