Yemen Frees 113 Al Qaeda Members

Rather than house, clothe and feed them in prisons, send these scumbags to iraq where they can fulfill their dreams of martyrdom...

The bastards, I can sense such terrible contempt for the scum. Seldonm have I felt such antipathy (towards the nazis while watching Schindler's list, yes). They will surely get what's coming to them. Each brave life fallen in the war against jihad is a tragic loss indeed.

This is not good. I wonder if the Yeminis got any guarantees of non home attack. Did the Us ask fot the extridation oif the 5 at least that were involved with the Cole?

Sounds like an opportune time to test out our implant homing-device technology.

Let's find out where these weasels go and who they meet. The pickings might prove quite fruitful.

Not a big surprise.. This is the game the religion of peace plays on the infidels. What's it going to take to get the American sheeple to wake up?

Not a big surprise.. This is the game the religion of peace plays on the infidels. What's it going to take to get the American sheeple to wake up?

Not a big surprise.. This is the game the religion of peace plays on the infidels. What's it going to take to get the American sheeple to wake up?

Not a big surprise.. This is the game the religion of peace plays on the infidels. What's it going to take to get the American sheeple to wake up?

NASSEEM
not good enough

Does anybody know where naseem is from? He seems to switch sides as often as I change my socks.

Once a terrorist, always a terrorist...

Hindu
According to naseem Pakistan,and she Could have been chased out of london
Nassem,concerning your comments [real and phony moderate muslims]
You should look carefully at what[mr]Shiva wrote.
Shiva was making a very valid point.In my view Shiva
can see that there is a lot of good people within the
islamic world who are suffering.
In the region you come there has been a lot of Hindus killed,by muslims [group2] The chances are some of your ancestors where among them,or,did your ancestors assist the muslims.
Shiva as you know is a Hindu Goddess.How can you demand respect when you start a comment with something like MR Shiva.
MISS ALLAH has made many mistakes,by creating
millions of disrespectful dumbfucks who follow the rantings of MRS MORHAMHED.
You also asked Catherine to drop the hate,this is the only point I can agree with you,then I do not have to see
verse after verse of the koran.
The only way for muslims and kafirs to lntegrate is for one or the other is to give up there faith.And this is where you shot your foot.I do know the person behind Shiva,and it so happens
I will be having a few beers together next week-end just down the road from where the Sari Club stood,Naseem you are welcome to join us,the mango
juice in the new Paddys bar is great.

Say, what has happened to that Qasim fellow. I thought that he swore he would dog Mr. Spencer till "the Last day" for something like that. He didn't last long did he....

"Muslim brothers" that's what it's all about. They don't hurt each other, they take what ever they can grab but there is no way they will ever give anything back. By their own standards at least half of that scum should have been summarely executed, yet just after a few years in prison all they have to do is to "recant" or "renounce" terrorism and off they go! Same just happened in Saudi Arabia, where a good number of Al Queda terrorists have been released after just a few months in jail. Thats why I feel sorry for our boys in Iraq: While they are being watched and "held to high standards" the ragheads deceive and kill- kill- kill, friend and foe, whoever does not support the islamic terror. I say it again: Islam is not a religion like anything we are familiar with, it is a totalitarian ideology , it needs bloody jihad and conquest and it does not integrate or assimilate. They do not share our values and they should not be allowed to infiltrate other countries in large numbers. They must not be given any "special rights" . Eventually, after major terrorist attacks, riots or even a civil war the Europeans -and perhaps also the USA- will take the necessary action: To forbid this subversive bloodcult altogether and ship the hardcore followers to Saudi Arabia, where they should be dumped. And that is where they all belong.

Terminator says,

"...it does not integrate or assimilate."

Eerily similar to Locutus of Borg. "Resistance is futile..."

We'll be hearing from all of them, just like the one's we had at Gitmo. Hopefully, when we do, they will also hear a message, from our boys.

Robert,

With your indulgence, I'd like to do something O.T.

Thank you to everyone that have signed up for the e-mail list.

I'd like to get some feedback from the members that have been on it for awhile, see if any changes need to be made and hopefully, let others know that it does work, so maybe we can get more people from over seas to sign on.

Let me know how it's worked for you. Did you feel like your information was secure enough?

Those that have requested reference material, did I find what you looking for?

Please post your answers back down on the Thanksgiving thread.

I'd like to get the following people on the list to get more information from where they are:
Scandi, Martin, Morgane, Andrew, Panos, Khamr, Son of Albion, Abad, Adela, Paula, Shiva, 3812Michelle, Nostrodamus, D.C. Watson and all the others if possible.

Thanks,
SusanB

Also, I need help from the members:

I had a request last night from Nicolei concerning an article by Hugh. It was the "Douche France" article, but it was posted in French.

Does anyone remember where that was posted at?

Thanks,
Susanb

Susan:

You can use the DW search engine. The title was actually "Douce France", posted on June 23,2004.

Here's the link:

Douce France

...actually, Douche France has a nice, and appropriate, ring to it. It definitely needs a good cleaning out!

Not suprised.Now it is a question of time before the Bali bunch walks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Excuse me but I would like to clear up a few points made in the comments for [real and phony moderate muslims] NASEEM The name is Shiva,without any pre-fixes
I will explain why I chose this name.I have been following JW for some time now.In the beginning, l was full of anger after reading a lot articles on this site and my reaction was to send a post,one or two of these posts where well over the top,and quite rightly they where blocked.So I changed my name,so that I could post again,I took the name Shiva as she is the hindu goddess of war,which for me seems to be a suitable token of my anger.
Also I would like to point out that hindus have other gods,one for love,one for wisdom and so on,unlike islam which has only one god,a rather nasty one,at that
So now when I read an article that angers me,I say to myself Shiva tens times over and devote 20 minutes with my four dogs [rottweillers,,,strange isnt it,how dogs can make you feel much calmer],then,like now,I can comment in such a way that,some-one,may read what I have to say,for better or worse.I am but one grain of sand in the sandstorm being gathered by the wind of JW
I grew up in London shortlty after the WW2,at that time there was a lot of hate towards the Germam,Italians,Turks and Arabs.Since then I have lived in Germany and spent a lot time in
Italy,Turkey and North Africa.I found that the in first three nations the people where very friendly,in North Africa the vibes from the people was rather negative,anyway I did not let that bother me[I was unaware of islamback then].What did bother me was,the people I had grown up to hate,once I got to know them,turned out to be very decent people.Since the sixties we have been able to travel,been able to communicate more easy,television brings the world into our living-rooms,and now we have the internet.Every culture has something to offer,we have so much to benefit from each other.The more we learn and respect each other then the world will a much better and happier place to live.But there is Islam,and we all know the problem we are faced with this vile cult.I will not engage with an anti-islam rant just now.
I believe that every-boby should be free to do what ever they want with out harming another persons freedom.I believe that every human has the right to live without fear.This is not possible as long as Islam exists.
As I have posted before,I live amongst muslims,in fact I employ several hundred.To tell the truth I feel safer here than what a lot of people in the USA feel.Okay I have dogs,the same
as factories every-where.Paula may agree with me on this one,a rottwieller offers better protecton than a gun or policeman
So Roberts policy of not hating all muslims is a very wise one,by hating all muslims,you begin to get the mind-set of the people who are your real enemies,and you could be making more enemies for yourself.Hate is one of the main pillars of Islam,which every body who reads this site should understand by now.I do not hate all muslims,yet I do hate islam and the muslims who practise islam for their evil schemes.I hate the muslims who commit crimes against their fellow muslims.I do not hate muslims who want to live there their life in a peaceful way,I do not hate muslims who have been denied the freedom to chose their own faith.So for me there only two groups of muslims,
one group I can accept and one group I hate.
I also have a very stong dislike for muslims who call me MR.
NASEEM,,,,You say you lived in London,can you remember the good old days of the steel capped bovver-boots,the bovver boys,the paki-bashing,the skin-heads,the days when it was not safe for any-body that resembled a Pakistani to walk the streets.Who was it who cleared the streets of England of this fascist scum,while you paki,s where huddled in your hovels in Southall,it was the blacks from the West Indies,the shieks from India and the whites from AFL{Anti Fascist League}
You should be thanking us for stopping this scum,and making England a safer place for people likeyou.If the streets of London,Amsterdam,Copenhagen or any other city in Europe is becoming unsafe for you and your kind,blame yourselves. I did not get a bottle broken on my head,cleaning the streets of Neo-nazi,s for the likes of lslamo-fascists to take over.Naseem,we have cleaned out the fascists in civilized world,and if the islamic world cannot take care of their fascists,then woe on you,we will do it for you.
Taliban gone
Saddam gone
Gadaffi Quit
I will not cry when Naseem is gone
Remember SHIVA is the name

SUSAN-B
EAST JAVA INDONESIA

HAWKWIND
See you tonigt

CATHERINE
Usana Bin Ladan Is not a coward

Shiva

You are an interesting man. Just one point though:

((while you paki,s where huddled in your hovels in Southall,it was the blacks from the West Indies,the shieks from India and the whites from AFL{Anti Fascist League}))

Actually, Southall is a predominantly Sikh area. But your general point is well made. Being acquainted with Hinduism you know enough about the feelings Hindus and Sikhs have for Muslims. There are towns in England today in the north and the Midlands where Sikh and Hindu children are subject to physical assault and harassment by Muslim extremists. None of this is reported in the dhimmi media though, for fear of offending the Muslims. Amazing isnt it?

In Britian the Hindus and Sikhs are our allies in the struggle against Jihadism, just as much as the Jews are.

best wishes

Thanks Cg,

I tried that and nothing came up, but then I realized that if I had spelled Douce correctly, I might have found it!!!;-D

Shiva-
I'm sorry, East Java? What does that pertain to?
If that's where your from or where you are, we'd like to hear more about your personal take on what's going on there.

Susan

That's the article, but I saw it posted in French and that's the one he needs. It wasn't that long ago that I read it.

I think Adela posted it in French???

Susan

This is not good. I wonder if the Yeminis got any guarantees of non home attack. Did the Us ask fot the extridation oif the 5 at least that were involved with the Cole?

Posted by: Naseem at November 26, 2004 09:32 AM

CATHERINE
Usana Bin Ladan Is not a coward

Posted by: shiva at November 26, 2004 04:17 PM

MY BOOK HE IS A YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY!!!

HAS LITTLE CHILDREN DOING HIS FIGHTING THAT IS A YELLOW COWARD IN MY BOOK!!

Paula may agree with me on this one,a rottwieller offers better protecton than a gun or policeman

YOU ARE A FOOL??

ROTTS ARE GREAT BUT WHAT WILL YOU DO IF SOMEONE KILLS YOURS CRY? THAT IS JUST THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENCE SHOULD NEVER BE THE ONLY LINE??

SO YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE WILL PROTECT YOU AND WILL NEVER TURN ON YOU I HOPE YOU ARE RIGHT FOR YOUR SAKE??

NO DOG IN THIS STORY?? JJUST A MAN WHO WAS PROTECTING HIS STUFF AND THE KID IN SCHOOL WHO DID ALL THAT DAMAGE WAS A MUSSI??

http://www.indystar.com/articles/3/197634-9423-102.html
Suspect shot during home invasion

By Tom Spalding
tom.spalding@indystar.com
November 26, 2004

A home invasion in Carmel today did not turn out so well for the intruder, police say.
The accused intruder was shot multiple times by the homeowner who was apparently defending his property, said Assistant Chief Tim Green.
The shooting occurred about 3:40 a.m. inside a home in the 700 block of North Rangeline Road, which is just north of West Main and West 131st streets.
Arriving police found the intruder on the kitchen floor, bleeding.
Mitchell Lee Moorhead, 32, of Attica, Ind., was taken to Methodist Hospital. He was in stable condition.
The resident who shot Moorhead is Charles Phillips, 35, police said. It was not known if Moorhead was armed.
A third person was in the residence, but that person's role was unclear.
Carmel police are expected to release more details on the home invasion -- and the circumstances that led to the shooting -- later today.
Phillips placed a 911 call after the shooting. Authorities did not release that tape.
But Green said, "You can tell from the call to (Hamilton County) dispatch it was a person who was quite upset about what had just happened. But it was very clear and concise as well as to what happened." He added that the area where the shooting occurred, which is known as Old Town, is not suffering a rash of break-ins.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/4/197641-3314-102.html
Last of students hurt in attack out of hospital

Associated Press
November 26, 2004

VALPARAISO, Ind. -- The last of five Valparaiso High School students cut in what police said was a knife attack by a classmate has been released from a hospital.
Four of the cut students and two others who suffered pain from other injuries were treated and released within hours of Wednesday morning's attack, but Michelle Anderson, 15, had been kept at Porter hospital overnight for observation.
A nursing supervisor at the hospital said Anderson was released Thursday and was in good condition.
Shirley Olis, the mother of 14-year-old victim Kory Erb, said her son had cuts to his face and across the back of his head. A plastic surgeon had worked on him, and he was doing well, she said.
"He's sore," Olis said. "I'm glad it's over."
The 15-year-old freshman who police said cut the students in a Spanish class with a machete and another knife just as the school day was beginning was in custody while prosecutors reviewed the attack. No motive for the attack has been given by investigators.
Four school administrators chased the student for a few minutes after he fled the classroom before Assistant Principal George Gordon tackled the student in a hallway, school district Superintendent Michael Benway said.
He said their actions prevented the situation at the school of some 2,000 students from becoming more serious.
"To personally confront and subdue a person with two lethal weapons in his hands, I think that's nothing short of heroic," Benway said.
Sam Rasmussen, the school's athletic director and among those helping subdue the suspected attacker, said the boy was dazed, but did not look scared.
"He wasn't yelling, he wasn't screaming," Rasmussen said. "He was in another place."
Authorities and students said the teen who committed the attack was a good but quiet student who enrolled in the school about 20 miles southeast of Gary this fall after moving from the Chicago area.
Benway said the district planned to use federal grant money to hire a school security consultant to consider emergency policies, the number and position of video cameras and metal detectors at the school.

Drinking a little to much today??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT AND COURSGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTORY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE EYES OF THE WORLD TO THEIR THREAT AMEN

PS
Ride Cowboy Ride
Put them Islamic Terrorist on the run
Boy Cowboys Just haven some Fun!!

Posted by: shiva at November 26, 2004 04:17 PM

Okay after reading your whole post I take it back you are not a fool but buy a gun anyway!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
God Bless the the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destory ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen

I agree that "Douche France", while probably some kind of Freudian slip on SusanB's part, is quite a propos. I wish someone would get to it right away.

shiva:

Just out of curiosity, what was your previous screenname, the one that got your posts blocked? Would we recognize you? As SusanB said, please tell us more of your personal story. BTW, we LOVE dogs here at JW, a fact made all the more delicious due to muslims' fear and loathing of them. A few JWers have taken to walking their large (and especially black) dogs outside of mosques on Fridays afternoons about the time prayer is over to watch the frantic scurrying and the robes flying.

SusanB:

I suggest e-mailing Spencer about the French-language version of "Douce France". You could also try asking Ethelred Smith at www.nojihad.com.

Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Rewriting the French Revolution
Miguel A. Faria Jr., M.D.
Friday, Nov. 26, 2004
A book review of Leigh Ann Whaley’s “Radicals: Politics and Republicanism in the French Revolution” (2000, Sutton Publishing, 212 pp., ISBN: 07509-22389)
Contrasting Revolutions
Even though politicians and some historians in both America and Europe have likened the French and American Revolutions, these two landmark events of world history were as dissimilar as the men who forged them.
The American Revolution (1775-1783) was a war for independence from England, a war for self-governance, as well as a thunderous political event that led to the affirmation of the Natural Rights of men – namely, life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness. The American Civil War (1861-1865) freed the black slaves and extended civil rights that had been denied them since their arrival in chains to the New World.
Ordered liberty and self-determination enshrined in the American constitutional republic would endure and guide these United States of America through the turbulence of the last 200 years into the 21st century.
On the other side of the coin, the epochal episodes of the French Revolution, the storming of the Bastille (July 14, 1789), the fall of the monarchy (August 10, 1792), etc., were merely preludes to mob violence, the September Massacres (1792), the Reign of Terror – and ultimately, the dictatorship of the Committee of Public Safety and Maximilien Robespierre (July 1791-9 Thermidor, 1794).
Then came the Thermidorean Reaction, the Directory, the Consulate, and finally the Empire under the enlightened despotism of Napoleon Bonaparte (1799-1815). Mid- to late-19th-century French history continues the cycle of violence (although not of the same intensity as that of the Terror), insurrections, coups d’etat, revolutions and counterrevolutions, the rise and fall of "Republics" and "Empires," few victories – and many military defeats that would haunt France into the 20th century.
Rewriting History
In her book “Radicals: Politics and Republicanism in the French Revolution,” Leigh Ann Whaley, professor of European History at Acadia University, Nova Scotia, attempts to rewrite the history of the conflict between the radical Jacobins, the Montagnards, and the moderate republicans (i.e., the "right wing" of the National Convention), the Girondins or "Brissotins" (after one of their leaders, the journalist Pierre Brissot).
Whaley argues that the difference between these two groups was personal or tactical rather than ideological, and that this difference "was not discernible until at least December 1792." She "rewrites the history of factionalism" as to assert that the division of the Girondins and Montagnards had more to do with personal rivalries, unfulfilled ambitions and animosities than with ideology or political objectives.
Whaley believes that it was their seeking of political support in the political struggle that led to their contrary positions, positions that evolved and "were not there from the beginning."
Moreover, the author, contrary to all the available historical evidence (not to mention common sense!), asserts that "the uprising of 2 June [1793, when the Girondin Deputies were purged from the Convention] was not the decisive event in the downfall of the 'Brissotins' and the reason for their subsequent execution in the autumn of 1793."
And then she takes the final academic plunge into the realm of the implausible. Supported with flimsy and contrary evidence, and even less convincing argumentation, she continues: "Rather, it was a combination of the illegal [my emphasis] activities carried out by a majority of those expelled ... and other events, including the murder of Marat, which determined their sorry fate."
Thus, Whaley incredibly writes of "illegality" in reference to the National Convention, a governing body that had, in fact, already rescinded whatever claims it had to legitimate governance when it approved (albeit reluctantly and under pressure) the purging of the 21 Girondin Deputies.
The Convention had cowardly caved in to the Parisian mobs and expelled the Girondin opposition, whose heads had been repeatedly demanded by the dregs of the sans-culottes, the insurrectionary Commune, and the radical Sections of Paris.
As for the assassination of Marat on July 13, 1793, Whaley buys into the propaganda of the radical Jacobins themselves, Fabre d’Eglantine, Georges Couthon, the corrupt ex-priest Chabot, and Robespierre, who used the episode as the needed, final excuse to exterminate the Girondins and their friends.
Charlotte Chorday, a genuine republican heroine, is dismissed as nothing more than a tool of the Brissotins, part of a conspiracy, when at her own trial the available evidence pointed to the fact that, even though she had met the Girondin Deputies Francois Buzot and Charles Barbaroux at Caen, she acted of her own accord, hoping that by assassinating the bloodthirsty Jean Paul Marat, she would save the Republic from the dictatorship of the Montagnards.
Significant Omissions
In the Preface, Prof. Whaley curiously recommends her book to "historians of Europe" and other scholars, even "anyone seeking to understand the nature of revolutionary behavior," but apparently not to Canadian or American historians. Why this oversight?
One wonders if she fears critical evaluation of her book from the American perspective, her Canadian colleagues, or traditional scholars, who may not share her barely suppressed enthusiasm for the men who ultimately presided over French radicalism and the bloody Reign of Terror.
Conveniently, the tyrannical and bloodthirsty careers of Robespierre, Saint-Just, Couthon, Collot d’Herbois, Billaud-Varenne, etc., of the Committee of Public Safety at the height of the Great Terror were not subject to this study. Unexpectedly, the book lowers the curtain on this dramatic performance with the execution of the "illegal" Girondins.
Yet the thesis of this book, truncated as it is, at such a critical time in the midst of the French Revolution and with such an abrupt ending, is recommended to "a multi-disciplinary audience, including students of politics, military studies and French studies." What conclusion could these students possibly draw after such a significant omission?
A Revolution Gone Too Far
Another objection to this little tome is that all of "the Radicals" are painted with the same broad brush: They are essentially ideological Jacobins who split with each other over tactics, only to subsequently coalesce into two opposing groups.
The basis for the political realignment is, we are asked to believe, due to nothing more than petty jealousies, personal rivalries, and political necessity – not ideology, or, most importantly, the realization by the moderate Girondins that the Revolution had gone too far, that the National Convention had lost legitimacy, that coercion from the Parisian mobs and the recurring and continuous threat of political violence made the task of governance virtually impossible.
This unrelenting intimidation and threat of violence, it should be pointed out, was directed almost exclusively against the "right wing" of the Convention, the moderate Girondins, who represented and were the voice of the provinces, vis-a-vis Paris and the centralization of power. Thus, a few radicals and Parisian mobs were to rule by sheer terror over a larger, more moderate country.
With good reason the Girondins feared a dictatorship of Paris over the provinces, directed by the radical Jacobins under Marat, Danton and Robespierre. History proved them correct even though the presaged brutal dictatorship lasted less than two years.
I write "painted with the same broad brush," and yet, if anything, the bloodthirsty Marat, the despotic Robespierre, and the extremists, Saint-Just, Billaud-Varenne and Collot d’Herbois are treated with undeserved deference, bordering on admiration, as if they were French statesmen of the first order rather than the sanguinary terrorists they really became as the Revolution unfolded.
Take for instance Collot d’Herbois, radical Jacobin and member of the Committee of Public Safety, who held that for prosperity to be achieved under the revolutionary government it was necessary to sacrifice 12 to 15 million Frenchmen.
And this was not just a nightmarish idea of a mad radical; Robespierre approved of the same planned depopulation of France. He agreed with Collot that 12 to 15 million citizens needed to be exterminated before his genocidal dream of happiness in the Republic of Virtue could be consummated.
Undeserved and obsequious deference to these unsavory characters only betrays the author’s thinly veiled sympathy for these ultra-radical figures, questioning the same objectivity she seeks to attain as a historian.
Blatant Bias
Although there is no question that Prof. Whaley has done significant research, unearthing and studying original sources, she does not quote representative writings of these revolutionaries to the extent that their minds, through their own words, are opened to the critical analysis of the reader.
For example, Marat’s radical and frequently vulgar newspaper, L’Ami du Peuple, is never quoted even though it would have been quite illuminating to do so. Marat used these pages to harangue the Convention as well as to repeatedly ask for the blood of his enemies. Certainly, quoting his rabid writings would have set him apart from his vastly more reasonable enemies on the right.
Ditto for Rene Hebert, the cowardly and sanguinary journalist, Commune leader and radical Jacobin, who should have been specifically included in this study. Like his newspaper, Pere Duchesne, Hebert was mentioned but not quoted so as not to give us a sense of the fear the Girondins must have experienced after being denounced as "traitors" repeatedly by this editor, who again and again demanded that they face the cold blade of the guillotine!
Hebert used gruesome expressions when calling for the heads of his enemies. They should be taken to the scaffold "to sneeze into the sack" or "to look out of the Republican window." And yet Hebert was one of the few revolutionaries (or aristocrats) who cowardly broke down when his time came and had to be taken kicking and screaming "to look out of the [same] Republican window." Nevertheless, Hebert was only mentioned in passing, almost deferentially, as if he were only a detached witness to the revolution.
Prof. Whaley referred to the Girondin political opposition to radical Jacobin policies (supported by Marat and Hebert in their newspapers) in the National Convention as "intransigence." The author devotes a considerable number of pages to the propaganda machine of the "Brissotin" press. The enormous influence of Marat’s and Hebert’s newspapers in mobilizing the criminal elements and Parisian mobs to influence the proceedings and intimidate the Convention is barely mentioned.
On the other hand, the Girondins, except for Marquis de Condorcet and Jerome Petion, are treated very differently. They are discredited at every opportunity, tactfully but consistently. Pierre Brissot is accused of having been a police informer, which may have been true but irrelevant, particularly when no evidence was submitted.
Hanging such a dark cloud over the reputation of a leader would surely reflect poorly on the reputation and motives of the whole political faction. Brissot may have had a shady past, but certainly the period covered under this study demonstrated him to have grown politically and morally, his courage and determination adequately expiating for his past sins.
We cannot say the same for the ultra-radical Jacobins in the Committee of Public Safety and their allies in the Insurrectionary Commune and the Paris Sections. As previously stated, a significant omission precluded analysis of the careers of the most sanguinary Montagnards in the Committee of Public Safety because the Great Terror was excluded by Prof. Whaley from the period under study!
Thus, one is left with the feeling that this book is written in an attempt to establish moral equivalence among the radicals, painting them with the same broad brush to achieve this objective. The attempt fails because historical evidence points otherwise.
Instead what the available historical evidence leads to is the fact the Girondin faction, the "right wing" of the Convention, tried but failed to bring an end to the excesses of the Revolution, an anarchic revolution gone violent and bloody.
Indeed, there is significant evidence that the Girondin leaders, Jerome Petion, Pierre Brissot, Arnaud Gensonne, Charles Barbaroux and Pierre Vergniaud, whatever their initial political thoughts, came to the realization that the Revolution had gone too far. They then intended and tried to get the Revolution on track, establish a Republic with a lawful constitution, guided by the rule of law and Natural Rights, not unlike that of the United States, which they came to admire.
Moreover, they foresaw their own destruction, and yet they fought and died bravely to prevent the coming Terror. The history of France, and, as subsequent events proved, the history of the world, could have been changed for the betterment of humanity if these courageous Girondins had succeeded.
Dr. Faria is editor emeritus of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons (formerly the Medical Sentinel) and author of “Vandals at the Gates of Medicine” (1995), “Medical Warrior: Fighting Corporate Socialized Medicine” (1997) and “Cuba in Revolution: Escape From a Lost Paradise” (2002). For suggested reading and references on the French Revolution, e-mail the author through his Web site at www.haciendapub.com.

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destory ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen

If yours is a 'religious' country, and you regard certain prisoners as having commited immoral acts, why then would you choose to pardon said felons during your country's 'holiest' time of the year? Is this not like releasing American convicted rapists in honour of Christmas or Easter?

Or, do the Yemenese perhaps NOT view these jihadists as immoral? Gee, do ya think?

Shiva and hawkwind,

Correction: Shiva isn't the name of a Hindu Goddess, rather the name of a Hindu God.

From what I know, the Hindu trinity consists of the creator, the protector / nurturer and the destroyer - respectively named Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

But Shiva is an apt name for what you've set out to do in the realm of ideas. Shiva is, in theory, the last and the greatest of the Hindu trinity. Married to the goddess Parvati, one of wehose avatars is Kali - goddess of rage and retribution, Shiva is the one to bring about the end of the world - "Pralay" as the Hindus call it on Judgement day, so to say.
Shiva, unlike Vishnu (The playful Krishna is one of Vishnu's avatars), is a straight talker and a straight do-er. No tricks and treats, no fussing around, no beating around the Bush.

So, all power to you, Shiva. Go forth and do well!

Shiva,

That’s a mighty name for someone with so much hate. Actually Shiva is NOT female, HE is a hindu god (the destroyer). Look at

http://www.sanatansociety.org/hindu_gods_and_goddesses/shiva.htm

It says Shiva is the god of the Yogis….while at the same time a lover of his spouse (shakti). Shiva’s first WIFE was Sati…and so on.

You should change your handle before someone pulls it…you are spoiling such an eminent name.

You say "I keep changing sides" what…ME!!!! you misunderstand. Being a Muslim does not necessarily mean that you support terrorism (although you would have a hard time convincing Mr. Hugh). Some of the gentlest people I know are devout but wouldn’t hurt a fly…difficult to believe isn’t it. …stereotyping comes to mind here.

I know that every comment I make here, posters try to get rip it apart, the inherent mistrust of have of me can be cut like a knife through butter. It’s like I am the face of Islam and you want to get a piece of me, but I am just one person....and with feelings too.….

So here goes my soapbox speech “I do not support the terrorists, I hate to see Muslims kill each other”…and that does not mean I should have to renounce everything….and if you don’t believe me…well tough!

Somebody here said “They do not share our values”

Well you don’t share theirs either….big deal

“ and they should not be allowed to infiltrate other countries in large numbers”. ….

SO then if you know this why waffle…DO IT…stop them….but ehhhh... do it on the quiet, because your government could charge YOU for inciting hate , rasicm, disturbing the peace…criminal damage…etc You ain’t gonna stop them anytime soon …and you know it. In fact I see an increase in the flow…as the US invades other muslim countries , more muslim (refugees) will come.

You say “As I have posted before,I live amongst muslims,in fact I employ several hundred”.

Well thank you, I appreciate that. They help run your business and you in turn help to feed them. But a bit of advice....don’t introduce them to JW or tell them you are Shiva…..and you’d better stand well back! The word hyprocite springs to mind here…but I could be wrong…and if I am …then sorrrrrrrry.

You said “I hate the Muslims who commit crimes against their fellow Muslims”.

Brilliant, we agree on something!

You say “I lived in London,can you remember the good old days of the steel capped bovver-boots,the bovver boys,the paki-bashing,the skin-heads,the days when it was not safe for any-body that resembled a Pakistani to walk the streets.

You should be thanking us for stopping this scum,and making England a safer place for people like you.

Eh…Thank you.

Naseem,we have cleaned out the fascists in civilized world, and if the islamic world cannot take care of their fascists, then woe on you, we will do it for you.
Taliban gone
Saddam gone
Gadaffi Quit

You overreach yourself…. The truth is the Taliban(and insurgents) have not gone. In fact there are more today then there ever were…and today they fight in Iraq, tomorrow unfortunately it will be Chicago, New York, Texas, London etc. And if you believe anything else then you are a fool….ask Mr. Hugh…it’s no wonder he’s so paranoid about this situation.

Believe me I would regret very much if this happened.

The truth is you cannot take care of the fachists, you can swat thousands upon thousands and they will still come…war will not stop them ….only Islam can stop them…..and it will find a way!

I’m glad Saddam has gone and Gadaffi has quit…they did very little for Islam or it’s people. They were poor leaders, I hope better for the future.

Finally, you say “I will not cry when Naseem is gone”.

You are entitled to your opinion and feelings and I don’t hate you, I don't even know you. If you ever met me (not that it’s gonna happen) we may even have got along...hell I could even be working for you....careful now!

Luckily when I go is not down to you, it is up to Allah (swt). I do get the feeling that something happened in your past that made you a bit twisted in your thinking…something you blame Islam for.

Does this not make Yemen a "haven for terrorists" and therefore a place the West needs to put a "cordon sanitaire" around? Beginning with breaking off diplomatic relations, immediate embargoing of all trade, expulsion of all Yemenis in the West, and insistence that the released terrorists be re-arrested and re-imprisoned, -or the coalition forces will have to come in and do it for Yemen?

The Axis gains another locus of medi-evil.

Wasn't it stated clearly enough that:

"You are either against the terrorists, or you are a terrorist state."?

Now we have a clear declaration of intent by this venal little fiefdom.

Let them pay for their cowardice or criminality.

"SAN`A, Yemen — Yemeni authorities have released 113 militants belonging to the Al Qaeda network — including at least five once accused of involvement in the deadly bombing of the USS Cole — after they recanted their extremist views, security officials said Thursday."

Kapowwwww....that will stop the Jihadists' attacks!! They should adopt this approach in the west to totally eliminate the crime problem in other countries too.

Gansta: "I renounce my hundreds of rapins, murderins and robbins...bye bye prison!! Now where is my automatic?"

P.S. I crossed me fingas when me said that...hahahaha!!

There. What have I said before?

Naseem, you do make it interesting! Thank you!

Naseem,
your posts always show an intelligent apologist for islam.

But nothing on the planet is as sure of destruction than the legacy of that mass murdering bastard, mo.

I am disappointed with you, and most of the other moslems i have spoken to. The chains of ideology are too heavy for most of you to see the total absurdity of considering mo a prophet of deity.

If you wish to consider him a military or political hero of the arab people, fine.
As a prophet - absurd, stupid, and an insult to those striving to achieve a better world.

mo, and islam, is unworthy of you, and unworthy of all human beings. G-d does need a sword to do his work, thank you.

Whoops.
Nothing on this planet is as sure of destruction
AS the legacy of that mass murderering bastard mo.

Naseem: You said: "The truth is you cannot take care of the fachists, you can swat thousands upon thousands and they will still come…war will not stop them ….only Islam can stop them…..and it will find a way!"

We have been waiting 1400 years Naseem for Islam to find a way to stop itself from treating other non-muslims like manure but it hasn't happened yet. Like the boy that cried "wolf" three times we in the west are lossing patience, especially with people like you who tell us to not fight back in afganistan, iraq etc after muslims murder us in the thousands and to just trust in islam to be nice to us. We are not idiots. We all know what islam has done to westerners throughout history and it stinks. We have had enough of being treated as sub-humans.

Naseem is an excellent example of islamic equivocation. Remember they are enjoined to LIE in the furtherance of the cause.

After all did not the the brigand and terrorist in the Myth of Mecca (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/24/152943.shtml) say that War Is Deceit.
And is it not incumbent on each and every mosie to be on a Jihad and/or Dawa. I read your post as your contribution.

You yourself know the Taliban are not gone. It is a chameleon, a shapeshifter. Just like the Assasins. They replicate into new groups. And Islam is their source. And you say that Islam will stop it. That is a LIE.You are saying the mother will kill the offspring.
Tut tut. You must really think people are as gullible as they were once.
You lie Naseem - as you have been brought up to. And there`s going to be no changing you. Islam is evil and you are part of it.

Kafir boy
When I left London I was not aware of the history of the relationship between the Hindus/muslims,Sorry,but at that time you all looked and talked the same as Peter Sellers,and
Southall was well known to have a lot of asian immigrants.But I did know what a
skinhead was [a thug with more hair than brains].They where displaying nazi symbols and this was good reason to battle with them.Inever really thought about why Jews and Sheiks seem to get together.Thankyou for pointing this out to me,it is very true about the Shieks and the Jews,Berwick Street in London proves what you state,here both groups work along side each other

Susan-b
I am english [ashamed/proud,depending on what part of the famous/imfamous english history I wish to recall] I have been living in East Java for along time now.With this posting I have a few points I would like to get out of my system.Before considering your posting,and would like to go a little deeper within the next couple of days.
Catherine.
Thankyou for staying away from satanical verses, your last couple of posts have been enlightening to read
There is no way I will own a gun,or any other weapon,as this the first step into violence,as much as I respect the USA,it always puzzles me,that guns are so much a part of the american way.Before you sky-dive you check your parashute.So,as an infidel living in a muslm area I take the right precations,and owning a gun will be a provocation.A muslim will stay as far away as possible from dogs.My dogs have had police trainingfrom the police here,and here the demostration turn violent pretty quickly,and they happen quite often,so the police collect two or three of my dogs,and they prove to be more effective than 30 armed cops.The musslim here have the same mind-set as they have for pigs. Any-way if you feel safer behind a gun,it says a lot about where you reside,and people have been carrying guns in America much longer than they have been aware of the dangers of islamists.Here the long blade is the weapon used,so my best protection is a well trained dog and knowledge of muslims fear of dogs.
Any-way there is one weapon which is far superior to guns etc etc,and that is the pen.A pen in the right hands can do more damage than all the nukes put together.You drop a nuke your are only going to generate more hate.I think that the pen in the hands of folks like Robert and many other posters on this site are inflicting more damage on Islam than all the bombs dropped on Bagdad,Catherine you have a powerful weapon within your reach,use it well.I am new to this site and I am trying to learn how to use this awsome weapon,some times my targeting is a little off,or my facts are slightly wrong,but my ultimate target is to help rid this planet of the type of evils that exist in cults like Islam,Nazism and Fascism
Saddam is a coward and a thug,But Usana,this one! is a very evil cunning bastard,and he is a leader of a lot people who respet him.And what do all great leader do in times of war,they lead from the back.So Usana is no more a coward than Bush[Churchill or any other great leader through out history.I can agree that he a *^ %#**#%#,but to think of him as a coward is a grave mistake,Should there be an election in the islamic
world today,the chances are he would win by a landside.and there are a lot of people who worship him so I do not think you will find him in a hole.Also I do not think there will another attack that can be linked directly to him. I suspect his aim is to gain a foothold in one of the gulf nations.He gained enough support,after WTC,to be able to over throw Saudi,another attack,would only have a negative result for him
within the arab world.The further away we get from WTC,without another attack the arab world will only see western agression.Bin laden is keeping a low profile,playing for time.his next move will be just as powerful as WTC,but it will be a power grab within Arabia.And this is why it utmostly important to capture him before the next move.
AAAAAAAAAh Naseem
Your post deserves a response and I will admit you made some good points.So excuse me for now as I would like to ponder a little over what you posted.
Thank-you for keeping the MR out

Just a quicky before my next pint
It was me who stated the taliban are gone,not Naseem,She stated they still exist,she is right!!!
I stated they are gone,I am right!!!
they are gone from their seat of power
cheers
Skol
any-way they are running scared
Have a good week-end

Naseem grants us a peek at her true colors:

"So here goes my soapbox speech “I do not support the terrorists, I hate to see Muslims kill each other".

Not "I hate to see muslims kill people", nor " I hate to see people get killed". No, what Naseem comes up with is "I hate to see Muslims kill EACH OTHER".

But I'm sure that was just a typo. (roll eyes like slot machine)

And another thing, Naseem. You slam Shiva and others for having HATE.

There's nothing wrong with hate. I hate disease, corruption, crime, pollution, Nazism, the KKK, terrorism, Fascism, Islam, and comets that destroy the Earth (not necessarily in that order).

Some things are just plain hateful.

Yemen was always an extremist haven. I am forever puzzled why the US is supporting that regime there. Yemen is hardly any different from Saudi Arabia, only that different tribes rule the country side. But this whole Taliban society is stooped in the dark ages and Islam will keep them there forever.
Just like Arafat used to put his"extremists" behind bars (with a revolving door) the Yemeni's do just the same as the Saudis and in Jakarta the Police chief has recently been seen having coffee in a shopping mall with Ali Imron, one of the Bali bombers.
"Muslim brothers"-they multiply like rats. They infiltrate our countries by any means of deception, they do not share our values,-yes, Nasseem, that is a " big deal " if we have to support Islamic welfare recipients and hatemongers among us who want to kill and distroy us then I make no apologies for hating them.Not one of our boys should have died in Falludja, the right bomb would have turned that place into a hole in the desert. The life of one American is worth more than the life of thousand Islamic militants. And by the way: We love Life, they "love death"- is'nt that what the Muslim preachers keep telling us? If so, then we should help them along the way per EXPRESS!

Yemen was always an extremist haven. I am forever puzzled why the US is supporting that regime there. Yemen is hardly any different from Saudi Arabia, only that different tribes rule the country side. But this whole Taliban society is stooped in the dark ages and Islam will keep them there forever.
Just like Arafat used to put his"extremists" behind bars (with a revolving door) the Yemeni's do just the same as the Saudis and in Jakarta the Police chief has recently been seen having coffee in a shopping mall with Ali Imron, one of the Bali bombers.
"Muslim brothers"-they multiply like rats. They infiltrate our countries by any means of deception, they do not share our values,-yes, Nasseem, that is a " big deal " if we have to support Islamic welfare recipients and hatemongers among us who want to kill and distroy us then I make no apologies for hating them.Not one of our boys should have died in Falludja, the right bomb would have turned that place into a hole in the desert. The life of one American is worth more than the life of thousand Islamic militants. And by the way: We love Life, they "love death"- is'nt that what the Muslim preachers keep telling us? If so, then we should help them along the way per EXPRESS!

One in three children born in France today are muslim !

Thanks Hugh; this info from your ' Douce France ' article.

Aaaaargh.