Now Turkey's entrance into the EU is completely assured. Have the Greeks forgotten their history? From AP, with thanks to David Russell:
Greek political leaders have displayed rare consensus in encouraging Turkey's EU aspirations, which face a crucial test at a two-day EU summit beginning Dec. 16.Greek support has self-interest in mind: the belief that the EU carrot would help resolve quarrels such as divided Cyprus, disputed Aegean airspace boundaries and broader rights for the spiritual center of Greek Orthodox Christians in Istanbul.
Of course, the Turks have been very clear in ruling all that out, so the Greeks are just indulging in wishful thinking.
Matchless stupidity.
The entire EU participating in a secret "who's the dumbest of all?" contest that we don't know about yet?
And sure, the contest's prize will be that the crocodoile wil eat the winner last....
Huh? I thought I'd misread this headline, because I certainly haven't forgotten modern Greek history. I honestly can't imagine what caused the Greeks to do this. Mass psychosis?
Well,
It's only a speculation, but could it be that the Greeks will outsmart Turkey?
It reminds me of the Cyprus- situation:
The Greeks agreed with the EU commission and Turkey but in the end, just a second before the vote began they said "NO" to the unification.
So, could it be that this is a strategem in order to gain time and information from the enemy?
Please note:
In Greece — which has nearly gone to war with Turkey three times in the past 30 years — the voices from the streets and from the seats of power often seem out of synch.
As in the UK -- with Labour's headlong dive into hatespeech legislation and the Euro -- this is clearly a case of the tail wagging the dog. The many Greeks I know do not support this; indeed, they are deeply suspicious of Turkey joining the EU. But their duplicitous leaders (who also managed to squeeze Greece into the single currency by fudging the public deficit numbers) march on towards Eurabia -- an Islamic-welfare state with cheap goods manufactured in Turkey, access to Iranian oil, nuclear weapons under the hood, and Arab largesse for the plutocrats.
For the past 30 years, Greek foreign policy has danced to a monotonous Arab tune, possibly in the hope that the Arabs would support Greece in its political battles with Turkey. Nothing happened; what has happened, however, is that the non-stop vilification of Israel, and presentation of the Jihad against it as a brave defense of the "legitimate rights" of the "Palestinian people" has confused minds, muddied what should be clear, and prevented many Greeks from understanding that the Jihad against Israel is just one local expression of what is, and must be, a world-wide phenomenon -- the requirement that Muslims push back all Infidel sovereignties until dar al-Islam swallows up, in one way or another, dar al-harb.
A Greek government and elite that calculates not for the long term but for some ephemeral gains which it assumes (probably wrongly) will accrue if it does not oppose Turkish entry into the E.U., is helping to re-introduce a large Muslim power into Europe, one that has shown that its aggressive recent behavior vis-a-vis the E.U. (angrily reacting to E.U. requests for compliance with E.U. standards), and the slipping away from Kemalism and its constraints on Islam will make it a permanent danger to the Infidels of Europe, and a conduit for still other, more dangerous Arab Muslims who will find it far easier to enter the E.U. through Turkey, and of course Turks throughout Europe will build their mosques, their madrasas, and carry with them the ideology which, still constrained by the legacy of Ataturk at home, will be fanned to full flame by Saudi and other Arab money, and the immutable ideology that is to be found, by anyone who wants to find it, in Qur'an, hadith, and sira.
Perhaps the Greek government thinks it will get the recognition of Cyprus. So what? What happens in 10 or 20 or 30 years, to Greece, to Cyprus, to all of Europe, if the most populous country "in Europe" is 99% Muslim, and the birthrate of Muslims in Europe is five times that of the indigenous Infidels?
Perhaps it is a question for the optometrist. Make that prescription for the minister from Athens somewhat stronger, will you? And while we are at it, all the presidents and foreign ministers in the E.U. may need the same prescrition. Not one of them, so far, has been able to read even the top line in the chart, the one with the biggest letters.
Now, how do they fit? Good. Try to read that top line once again.
Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin.
Fine. You just needed stronger lenses. Now you can see clearly.
Well, Hugh, let's hope that the fate given to the recipient of those 4 words will come to the Muslim world:
"God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it."
Why am I not surprised? I remember all too vividly my sense of revulsion at the sight of Greeks protesting in their streets when the US proposed bringing to an end the Baathist hellhole of Saddamite Iraq; I also seem to have memories of Greeks protesting many of the defensive measures undertaken by Israel to secure its people against the Palestinian jihad. Too many Greeks are already effectively dhimmis; they allow themselves to wallow in guilt-masochism over their glorious history of resistance to the Ottomans, they cling to the scraps of anti-americanism that they learned at the feet of the Soviet paymasters who funded their campaigns against the military government that prevented Greece from falling behind the Iron Curtain, and they have even begun to pervert their Orthodox faith and heritage with the same impulses toward anti-americanism, dhimmitude, and generalized leftism.
How far the cradle of the West has fallen. Those who ought to be at the forefront of resistance to the jihad number themselves among the ranks of those who whitewash the jihad and capitulate to it. I'd be sad if I weren't already so sickened.
"Greeks protesting in their streets"
The left still has a strong hold in Greece.
I would agree, the views of politicians are different from the populace in Greece.
Many of my friends have grandparents who ARE (not were) Greek refugees from Egypt, Syria and Turkey. They have stories to tell akin to Jewish grandparents.
So memories exist, although starting to fade away...
Incidently - my alias '1821' is the year Greece was liberated from the Turks. With British and French help, no less.
I wonder how many 'doughnuts' were protesting then?
I visited Greece several times in the 1990s, and Turkish fighter jets were always "buzzing" Greek airliners over the open waters between the two nations. This created incredible tensions between the two nations, and some flash-points also existed when Turks took over a few small uninhabited Greek islands. Turkish fighter jets buzzed the Greek airliners only a few months back, by press reports, and it seems they are biding their time until they can take over the rest of Cyprus. "Oh to smile and smile and be a villan, thou wretched smiling villan" (Shakespeare, Othello).
I wonder if the title of this thread should be "Greece Offers to BE Welcome Mat".
Okay, so I'm thinking that the only card left to play is:
What can happen in Europe that will make the TURKs decide THEY DON"T WANT to join the EU?
Maybe a humongous Chernobyl-like accident somewhere in the middle of Europe? A new bubonic plague sweeping the continent? Self-inflicted weapons of mass destruction damage may be necessary.
Sure, there'll be deaths but I'm sorry but what's left? No one seems capable of saying no to Turkey so the ball will have to be placed in Turkey's court.
Maybe if everyone in Europe started wearing a fez?
Personally, I think Turkey has secretly agreed to payoff the billions of dollars in debt that Greece incurred from their failed Olympics Games.
In return, the Greeks will get to wear those cute little pleated skirts and dance with one another while their girlfriends and wives have to sit and drink ouzo, thinking about Alexander the Great.
They sentenced Socrates, their wisest man, to death.
And they aren't looking much smarter today.
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"Those who hear and do not understand...the proverb says: 'Present, they are absent'."
-Heraclitus.
Europe's attempt to unite is producing collective insanity.
Was it not prophesied in Daniel 2:43, "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay"?
"Greece Offers Turkey EU Welcome Mat".
Are thy going to lay down?