An important part of Fox's Eurabia series. (Thanks to Kemaste for the link.) Sheik Terra, of course, is the perpetrator of the infamous "Dirty Kuffar" video.
LONDON — He's called Sheik Terra.With a Koran in one hand and pistol in the other, the British rapper calls for the murder of non-Muslims, including several world leaders, on a videotape.
The video is well known in one London mosque, whose imam — or leader — is accused of setting up a terrorist training camp in Oregon and whose followers don't like Western media.
Abu Hamza, who lost two hands and an eye in Afghanistan, is in jail now but other extremists from among Britain's two million Muslims continue to preach violence, veiling the message to take advantage of some of Europe's most liberal freedom-of-speech laws.
"We cannot tolerate a crocodile in our bedroom," said Sheik Omar Bakri. "U.S. forces in Muslim countries are crocodiles in our bedrooms. So we are not going to give them ice cream."
Bakri says the terrorists who staged the Sept. 11, 2001, (search) attacks on the United States are magnificent and Westerners in Arab lands need to be killed by any means necessary. He makes the threats with a smile.
"If we use violence, you will forget the name of your mother and father," he said.
The drawing power of the extremists, especially among the youth, has posed a challenge for mainstream Muslim leaders across Europe.
Part of Britain's problem is that it can't provide native-trained imams; more than 90 percent are foreigners with very limited training or, some like Hamza, have none at all.
To prevent more mosques from being hijacked, London's Muslim college is trying to educate home-grown British imams but the voices of moderation struggle to be heard over media-savvy terrorists.
The "hijacking" is so easy, as the BBC has noted, because the hijackers present their visions of violent jihad as "pure Islam," and the moderates have yet to mount an effective comeback.
Meanwhile, it is always someone else's fault:
The beheading of British engineer Kenneth Bigley in Iraq went from videotape to the Internet, then from cell phone to cell phone, bringing a smile from one young British Muslim who says he knows who the real killers are."They are not Muslims. They are Jews," the young man said.
Yes, it is always someone else's fault, Muslims continually depicting themselves as VICTIMS. BOLLOCKS! All round the world, MUSLIMS are exploding themselves and others, bombing and shooting and beheading Thai Buddhists, burning, bombing and killing Christians in Indonesia, brutally torturing and killing native tribes [or what is left of them ] in Papua, New Guinea. Slicing off the noses, gouging out eyes, raping and terrorising in Kashmir. MUSLIMS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OVER 98 % OF TERRORIST ACTS IN THE WORLD. THE WORLD IS SICK OF MUSLIMS AND THEIR DEATH CULT, THEIR VIOLENCE AND BARBARISM. If they are such a problem - to themselves and others - they can ALL be dumped back in their poverty stricken Shitholes!! NO ONE WANTS THEM INCLUDING [IRONICALLY] MOST OF THEIR FELLOW MUSLIMS...
IF they've got a crocodile in the bedroom, then we have a cobra in the bed.
Get them all out.
If I was so inclined I could put out the one good eye of that piece of sh*t on shoes, give him a C4 suppository and hook his arse to the balcony rail! But alas, I'm really not like 'that.' I am blessed, however with a vivid imagination ...
See, this is why we're not doing so hot on the war on terror. We let pukes like this rapper idiot spout hatred like this without instant censure. How long did it take to put that one-eyed toxic waste in jail? Years, if I recall correctly. Only to be replaced by similar psychopaths, poisoning more and more minds as we speak. Our laws should be so that they come down hard and fast on these festering boils of society. But no, we have love-ins at mosques, and suggestions of Islamic holidays and awareness workshops, and religious villification laws. Gutless, useless politicians are the problem.
I highly doubt there can be such a thing as "moderate" Islam that is supported by the Koran.
It is even less of a possibility if the ahadith are taken into account.
Moderate Islam and moderate muslim(s) sounds like an oxymoron; a contradiction in terms.
It must be taqiyya or kitman.
As for Islam being hijacked by extremists.
What "hijacking"?
Hijackacked by 93% of Muslims?
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3684324.stm
This was in September this year (2004).
The issue of foreign hostages in Iraq was examined this week on the most heated discussion programme on the Middle East's most-watched television station, al-Jazeera.
Karim Badr responded by saying all Iraq was disgraced by the beheadings.
Viewers were unmoved. In a phone poll 93% supported the kidnappings.
If they want violence, give it to them.
Remember the song "Rawhide": 'round 'em up '.....???
A few cattle trains to Saudi Arabia, dump 'em in the desert and then? Who cares!
P E A C E !!!!
Infromed Christian says "I highly doubt there can be such a thing as "moderate" Islam that is supported by the Koran. Moderate Islam and moderate muslim(s) sounds like an oxymoron; a contradiction in terms".
Oh come on now. I am a product of Islam, surely I'm "moderate". I *wouldn't* think about terrorist acts, it's against my nature...and a lot of muslilms that I know.
You can trust me.
Profitsbeard:
You may be an expert on the subject:
In the late seventies I spent a week in Bombay in the Taj mahal hotel.
Every day in the lobby I was watching Arabs buying women: little fat slobs in robes and prayerbeads mustering girls, paraded and presented to them by their fathers... All of them very young, I mean VERY young...
Around them they usually had another 3 or 4 completely covered up in burkhas, obviously the existing harem. I checked the net for any evidence on this but I could not find anything. I wonder why nobody ever reported on this...
Is that still going on?
Yes, there is definitely a term called "moderate islam". It means what it means, moderation of islam, or the toning down of islam. Just like you can call a person a "good lawyer" or a "bad lawyer" depending on his/her professional skills.
However, I think what Informed Christian is trying to say is that whether a person is a "good lawyer" or a "bad lawyer", he/she is still a lawyer. So how does one qualify to be a lawyer? Can someone who doesn't know the law be a lawyer?
The same can be asked about islam. Naseem, would you call Informed Chirstian a "bad muslim"? On the other hand would you call yourself a "bad Christian"? So, the fundamental question is, what does it take for someone to be a muslim? Can a person not believe in the existance of your prophet Mr. PBUH be a muslim? Can a person who disregard the Quran be a muslim? Can a person who disregard the teachings of Mr. PBUH be a muslim?
Informed Chirstian is claiming that a person who go against the teachings of the Quran cannot be a muslim, whether moderate or not. So Naseem, by your claim that "terrorist acts, it's against my nature...and a lot of muslims that I know" immediately renders you and your friends un-islamic. Of course, this is just his opinion.
The other week a Jamaican Reggae star called Sizla, was banned from the UK because of his lyrics slagging off gays, with frequent references to "batty boys", urging his fans (many of them being London, yardie gangstas with easy access to guns) to kill them, or attack them violently (in blunter terms kick their battyholes).
Their has certainly been an increase in "homophobic violence" , a large number of them by blacks.
As Sizla has been barred from the UK (and rightfully so), I think it's imperative that this psycotic clagnut Sheik Terra should be deported for the very same reason.
If a reggea star is banned from Uk access for calling for violence against gays , who represent a minority, shouldn't Mr.Terra, be not only deported, but forced to make his way back to Asia on a raft made of bread (which will hopefully be attacked by rampant seagulls before it makes it across the English channel).
He is calling for muslims to kill non-muslims, who represent a far larger portion of the UK public than a bunch of queers (before anyone starts calling me homophobic, I'm bi, and know many gays who wouldn't be offended if called "queer" so PC off).
I'm sending this article to the Daily star who have a field day with stuff like this, they already love Bakri (sarcasm), and will know doubt make the public aware of this violent beast that dubs his-rotten-self Sheik Terrd-- oh sorry Sheik terra....
Naseem,
Yes, you are a product of Islam:
Oh come on now. I am a product of Islam, surely I'm "moderate". I *wouldn't* think about terrorist acts, it's against my nature...and a lot of muslilms that I know.
You can trust me.
Posted by: Naseem at December 1, 2004 04:51 AM
It may be against your nature to do a terrorist act, but it so obviously has not been against your nature to try to decieve us at every turn.
You, know as well as we do, that your attempts to explain Islam and the Quran are pure bull@#$%!
As a woman, why in the world would you ever expect me, another woman, to accept Islamic law?
Why, would I ever accept the so called "teachings" of the Quran in any form?
Do you honestly expect women of the west,who are educated, independent, to allow ourselves to be placed in enslavement, to some Muslim idiot that can barely write, can't read, has no knowledge outside of the quotes he's memorized?
Or, the men of the west, to be reduced to babbling
robots, which to be honest with you, that's what you have thoughout the middle east and now, in the west (read again the above story for confirmation on this point).
Our strong men, who are educated enough to know that a woman is a partner, not a baby making machine/slave, to be reduced to a shell of what we're supposed to be.
Our men, who are confident enough in their own sexuality, aren't afraid to allow us to be whatever we choose to be.
We, the women of the west are what God intended for a woman to be, created from Adam's rib to to be equal to him, not to be broken, afraid to express ourselves, but to be powerful and strong in our own right.
So, stop with the stupid excuses, we don't want to hear the bull from a woman obviously broken and repeating the very thing that sucks the spirit out of you.
Naseem,
I'll tell you what....
Denounce islam, become an apostate (you can prove this by posting a comment that says "muhammed was a homosexual peadophile, who also liked to rape pigs, and Allah was the hallucination of a madman).
....And then we'll trust you...
Until then though your just another muslim using taqiyya.
I remember when the Very first rap song came along. I liked it. I liked the video... back then, a number of singers attempted to use Rap to send a positive (or at least, neutral) message-
But that didn't last long. The hatemongers and bigots saw it as the perfect way to spray their hatred of just about everything, at everyone.
I see it has reached its logical conclusion. I would have to guess, along with the hate-ridden songs and jokes that kerry applauded so much (whoopi comes to mind- unfortunate. Guinan (STNG) would strangle her for being like that), that if this guy was in the US, it would just be another expression of the American culture he approves of so much, which Bush (in the mind of liberals) is determined to destroy.
Naseem says "I" at least 4 times in one sentence which demonstrates a muslims smug "fuc* you I'm better than you" self superior attitude that has become all too familiar.
Remove the muslim mask and find Western envy on a grand scale.
Everything Naseem has like electricity, fuel, TV, computer, internet, radio, etc is all because of Western innovation. Say thank you nassem bitch.
Instead, we get a continuous stream of how we should accept your eastern superstitions.From your leaders we get threats of death and terror. How can you be such an ungrateful dirty little twat after all the West has done for you? You should be praying to us that we don't just wipe you all off the face of the earth.
Good People,
Callistos says "Naseem, by your claim that "terrorist acts, it's against my nature...and a lot of muslims that I know" immediately renders you and your friends un-islamic".
If you are saying that I can ONLY be a muslim
provided I am for terrorism then we must disagree.
Islam is a lot more than terrorism and "killing Infidels", it's a whole way of living, there is an unbounded richness. There are lots of muslims who do lots of good things, but because this site focuses exclusively on the Jihad aspects and selectively choosing of surahs and hadiths your minds are coloured..."there has to be an element of truth to this".
You then base your viewpoint simply based on this and that is unhealthy.
Equally, while I see many people here who hate I also see some very reasonable people here. I stick around so that in the longer term you see that there is at least 1 resonable muslim around.
Susab_B you talk about muslims being stupid enough "to allow to be placed in enslavement, to some Muslim idiot that can barely write, can't read, has no knowledge outside of the quotes he's memorized"?
I see that there are plenty gullable people in the west too who believe "We, the women of the west are what God intended for a woman to be, created from Adam's rib".
Woman created from a rib...that's as unscientific as the earth being flat...but you obviously believe it...and if that's your faith so be it...but in this respect it is similar to Islam ....i.e. an act of faith even though you know it is scientifically untrue....the old saying of "look under your own bed first" comes to mind.
I suspect that the real reason that you hate Islam is that it has an inherent strength and resilience not found elsewhere...if it has differnt values to you don't hate it just for that...and don't focus exclusively on Jihad.
Mr Rikki, welcome back, I almost started to miss your rantings and chantings.
Is this stupid sack of shit rapper wannabes albums any good? Why don't you have a concert in Hyde Park. Instead of using your talent for good, you use it for hate. I hope you are martyred soon, because the only place you are going to is hell. If I ever see/hear any of your albums I'm going to piss on them you prick. Or better yet I'll be glad to shove the microphone up your ass, because that's the only way you'll ever get it.
"Abu Hamza, who lost two hands and an eye in Afghanistan".
------------
Most likely it was a bomb-making accident.
Naseem,
You posted this:
Woman created from a rib...that's as unscientific as the earth being flat...but you obviously believe it...and if that's your faith so be it...but in this respect it is similar to Islam ....i.e. an act of faith even though you know it is scientifically untrue....the old saying of "look under your own bed first" comes to mind.
I suspect that the real reason that you hate Islam is that it has an inherent strength and resilience not found elsewhere...if it has differnt values to you don't hate it just for that...and don't focus exclusively on Jihad.
The story of Woman created from the rib of Adam is a
METAPHOR! As are most of the stories in the Bible in order for us to get life's greater lessons.
So, it has NOTHING to do with Islam, which has no greater lessons to give. We don't have to "focus exclusively on Jihad" to understand this.
No one does that. There are too many wonderful other things in Islam to study.... (sarcasm on)....Such as mass murder, rape, slavery, child abuse, etc, etc.
And, by giving your smug reply, once again, you prove my points perfectly.
Thank you!
This fake rapper would get laughed off any stage in the US and get his stupid little pussy ass kicked all the way to the emergency room. This is another example of an eastern copycat of superior Western culture. I never thought I would say that about rap music being superior to anything but as regards to muslims it is.
The original Old School raps by Sugar Hill Gang :Rappers Delight ('79) This is 25 years old! Muslims were not even on the radar screen then, what a great time we until this islamic blight came on the scene.
http://it.uwp.edu/gangsters/rappers.delight.html
I said a hip hop the hippie the hippie
to the hip hip hop, a you dont stop
the rock it to the bang bang boogie
say up jumped the boogie
to the rhythm of the boogie, the beat...
Remember this '82 rap (the Message)by Grand Master Flash & The Furious Five?
http://www.songlyrics4u.com/grand-master-flash-the-furious-five/the-message.html
Broken glass everywhere
People pissing on the stairs, you know they just don't care
I can't take the smell, I can't take the noise
Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice
Rats in the front room, roaches in the back
Junkie's in the alley with a baseball bat
I tried to get away, but I couldn't get far
Cause the man with the tow-truck repossessed my car
Chorus:
Don't push me, cause I'm close to the edge
I'm trying not to loose my head
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder
How I keep from going under
Or speaking of crocodiles, here's one for you Brits remember Neneh Cherry?
Buffalo Stance
Who's that gigolo on the street
With his hands in his pockets
And his crocodile feet,
Hanging off the curb,
Looking all disturbed at the boys from home.
They all came running.
They were making noise, manhandling toys.
That's the girls on the block with the nasty curls,
Wearing padded bras,
Sucking beers through straws,
Dropping down their drawers.
Where did you get yours?
Gigolo, Huh, sukka?
Gigolo. Gigolo, Huh, sukka?
Who would'nt take even rap over isalm?
Ahh the good ol days. Let's bring em back!
Naseem:
How do you feel, or what is your opinion about a young teenage girl being stoned to death after being raped by her brother?
Or how do you feel about a young teenage girl being sentenced to hang after she tried to complain about being raped and the judge gave her the hanging sentence for displaying anger about what happen to her in court?
how do you feel about a woman not being allowed to have representation in court to defend herself?
How do you feel about having a womans testimony in court worth only half that of a man?
How do you feel about honor killings of women by their family if the family decides they dont like who their daughter had a relationship with say maybe a Christian, or a Jew as a boy friend?
Terminator:
From what I know its pretty much still going on.
Impoverished moslem families in India sell, oops 'marry', their daughters to arabs in return for 'meher' - the arabic practice of compensating the bride's family for their loss. This practice is prevelent not so much in bombay as in the southern city of hyderabad.
Why's it unchecked in India? Well, in India too, from what I can see, islam is pretty mcuh a holy cow and politicians (leftists and centrists) don't wanna toucvh it with a bargepole. Besides, these dorks have what is called 'muslim personal law' - a parallel leghal system in place in India.
Tragic is the word.
We, the women of the west are what God intended for a woman to be, created from Adam's rib to be equal to him, not to be broken, afraid to express ourselves, but to be powerful and strong in our own right.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004118.php#c57081
Good post Susan_b.
See...Women in the civilized world are different massively different,But unlike the teachings of islam... the normal parts of the planet realizes that women are massively different in a GOOD way.
One who abuses his wife in America faces the very real possibility that EVEN if his wife,tearfully-lovingly tries to protect him from the police when they arrive.the OFFICERS can........and often WILL go ahead and press charges!!
We are finding they make VERY good C.E.O.'s,.. managers ,um heh.. SQUAD LEADERS! Ha! hahlol(your jihad is doomed) .
.All kinds of important tasks needed to run a good modern society........women are more efficient
and can take a boatload more g-force in the operation of military aircraft .
And are even believed to have a "special"
((Spatial-relationships)) ability enhancement that will make for GREAT Sling-ship pilots for the Mars -Jupiter-redistubrution runs!! But we digress .
Anyway.in my estimation one western woman is worth prolly about 50-100 well-trained (heh) Mujhadeen types.
Islam really should just slay all the current men in power and put women in their places ...poor Muslims...slaves to a group of evil men of power.... Islamic religious leaders and political leaders.......... all bad .all greed.... avarice.. everything that is considered evil in the world.... envy...hate....lies...pedophilia......all of it ...
Mackie,
I can guess what Naseem's reply would be. She would claim that those acts are unislamic and the "terrorists" have hijacked her religion and so on.
Unfortunately Naseem, us infidels (ie non-muslims) see islam as the religion created by Mr Pbuh as taught in the Quran and the Hadiths. You however, believe in the "peaceful" islam that you were taught from birth (I assume you were born a muslim). When we see conflict all over the world today, its always pepetrated by muslims under the will of "Allah". That is exactly why islam must be stop, not because we can't tolerate islam, but because islam cannot tolerate us. There will come a time when the world will realize that islam has declared war on them and when the world starts to retaliate, the painful fact is that the world will not discriminate between you and the "terrorist".
So if you do not believe in killing infidels, raping women, having sex with underage girls, killing jews, not befriending non-muslims, 70+ virgins in afterlife, then I would advice you to leave islam as your values are incompatible with islam.
You take a mortal man,
And put him in control
Watch him become a god,
Watch peoples heads a’roll
A’roll...
/chorus/
Just like the pied piper
Led rats through the streets
We dance like marionettes,
Swaying to the symphony...
Of destruction
Acting like a robot,
Its metal brain corrodes.
You try to take it’s pulse,
Before the head explodes.
Explodes...
/chorus/
The earth starts to rumble
World powers fall
A’warring for the heavens,
A peaceful man stands tall
Tall...
Source:
http://webs.ono.com/usr026/rideth4/SymphonyOfDestruction_demo.mp3
only a demo- (kinda off key)
I just finished reading the comments to the "Dirty Kaffir" thread. It sure brought out the haters didn't it? I guess we will have an influx to this thread also. Oh well, if 3rd rate so-called rap makes you feel powerful, have at it. It is just words, and the US Marines have answers to your words. KABOOM!
A nice little head bangin Megadeth tune AvgJoe, not bad, reminds me a little of Judas Priest.
I was surprised at how old the song is...i dont like megadeth much just a few songs.
Anyways Nasseem says ...
I suspect that the real reason that you hate Islam is that it has an inherent strength and resilience not found elsewhere...if it has differnt values to you don't hate it just for that...and don't focus exclusively on Jihad.
Posted by: Naseem at December 1, 2004 07:54 AM
Actually what these average western types are trying to illustrate is that the human race cannot and SHALL not.. tolerate the massive WASTE of resources that is the almost total slavery of islam as it is currently practiced, No matter howmany good muslims that are practicing flowers and rainbows,... the FACTS are islam is a waste ,a waste of human life in jihad ,a waste of economic resources into whabbisim taught in thousands (exactly how many islamic schools are there?) and howmany being built?.. while muslims worldwide are in abject poverty and NO education outside religious dogma...
A WASTE of the female segment of their populations....its just not working..Islam is fired due to greed and incompetence .....asmuch as it being anathema to normal thinking people with values and morals (shaira-law)A waste "recently" of not just their OWN countries (which also would eventually have had to been "dealt with" buy the rest of the planet)BUT a WASTE also of OTHERS productivity/lives & property across the entire EARTH! The human race can nolonger let this glaring inefficiency and waste continue.If islam took over the whole planet it would be a unredeemable dead-end .
islam will NEVER terraform another planet.... it's just not inherently possible.The human race is on the verge of evolving as a speicies and islams efforts are a total game stopper because they will not give up the dead end system.And will not get along with anyone else on the PLANET.
Common naseem, use your brain ...what other race.religion.socio-political whatever the hell you try to call it.Who else but islam thinks like this ? outside of cults like kkk ,skinhead...neonatzi's...etc etc...fringe groups....islam is NOT a fringe group this is the mainstream stuff nasseemm.Don't break your head trying to comprehend the illogic and unfriendliness of it all.
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=42771&dgn=4
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=33769&dgn=4
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Um the word INCOMPATABLE comes to mind ...sorry...naseem get out while you can ,talk to these people
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
Megadeth is not a fav of mine either but since you posted it I thought I would give you a 10 for effort:-)
"They are not Muslims. They are Jews," the young man said.
What in the world is it about the State of Denial that keeps muslims want to live there?
Guys! Naseem is being a moderate. And islam IS peaceful. Once everything else around them is Wiped Out of Existence, they are surrounded by peace. why do you think their is so much to do about driving non-muslims out of 'holy land'? When they are the only ones left, there is peace. (until they start learning what sect various others in their neighborhood belong to)
Which may be a semi-fair estimation of why so many of them sit back and watch the extremists 'hijack' their faith.
is it permissable under Islam to dream?
http://www.foresight.org/Conferences/MNT05/Papers/Bishop/
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mfogg/paper1.htm
Incompatible with human evolution .....Hindus?Buddists?Jews,Animalists........no main-stream organization thinks in a way that Prevents GROWTH.
Islam would not only FAIL to embark upon such lofty goals........................................................
(such pursuits are clearly incompatible with the myriad detailed rules of islamic dogma/teachings)......................................
they would actively try to DESTROY such "evil" kuffar undertakings.
So what do you say ? get with the program .Its "game over" one way or the other.jump on the team & come on in for the big win.
Seeing my typos I'd say we need a spell-checker on-site, but I'd hate to see what would happen to Catherine's posts.
No offense Cat! :D
open a new message in e-mail . copy from here ,use "spell-check" ,/copy . minimise new message, and paste back here.
Oh come on now. I am a product of Islam, surely I'm "moderate". I *wouldn't* think about terrorist acts, it's against my nature...and a lot of muslilms that I know.
You can trust me.
Posted by: Naseem at December 1, 2004 04:51 AM
IS THAT RIGHT??
Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”
Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ‘God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’”
WHAT DO YOU DO TO BLASPHEMERS[VAN GOGH]
Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.”
NOW WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN??
Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’”
WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN ABOUT TRUST??
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN ABOUT TRUST??
Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
WHAT WAS THAT AGAIN ABOUT TRUST??
Qur’an 33:14 “Say: Flight will not avail you if you flee from death, killing, or slaughter. In that case you will not be allowed to enjoy yourselves but a little while. Say, ‘Who will screen you, saving you from Allah if he intends to harm and injure you?’”
WHAT AGAIN WAS IT YOU WERE SAYING??
Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from a people with whom you have a treaty, retaliate by breaking off relations with them.”
AGAIN WE SEE YOUR WORD MEANS NOTHING??
Qur’an 47:24 “Do they not understand the Qur’an? Nay, on the hearts there are locks preventing them from understanding.”
NO WE UNDERSTAND IT WE REJECT IT!!
Qur’an 5:101 “Believers! Do not ask questions about things which if made plain and declared to you, may vex you, causing you trouble.” Qur’an 5:102 “Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account they lost their faith and became disbelievers.”
THESE 2 GO TOGETHER BE CAUSE IF YOU ASK YOU LEAVE BECAUSE IN YOUR HEART YOU KNOW THAT GOD SAID LIEING IS WRONG THIS IS WHY YOU WORK SO HARD TO REMOVE THE 10 COMAMENTS FROM OUR SQUARES??
SO YOU SEE NASSEEM NO WE DO NOT TRUST YOU BECAUSE YOUR BOOK TELLS US NOT TO!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen
susan_b
Rikki
cross
Mackie
catharine,and all posters to this site when are you all going to wake up to the fact that Naseem [Apasmara Purusha] is:-
1] Male, Naseem Is an old Indian name [not Hindu].Meaning fresh air,breeze
2] He is suffering from A.I.L. [ Acute Isllamic Lobotomy].
I have tried to do a little profiling on this nerdest of nerds
He could be one of a bunch of other underfed nerds in a madrasah somewhere in pakistan.Who collectively are getting them selves off downloading a mix of child porno/beheadings and sending provocating posts to this site while laughing their little ghoulies off,chances are the one who composes the best post might as a reward have his batty smacked by the guru
As all can see,this naseem,is laughing at all of you.Would it not be better to ignore him/then,or if you must make a comment I have a suggestion.Some times this site can be very depressing.Some humour/satire would not be out of place,so instead of trying to convince the the retards,show them one of the best weapons we have HUMOUR/LAUGHTER
Islam does not allow laughter
There is nobody who posts to this site who will be able to change their way of thinking,and you are only fooling your self if you think other-wise,most muslim have an IQ of a ten year old,So instead of wastng time tryig to convert the retards,ignore them,and if you must have your 2cents woth,then see if you can humour them and make the rest of us have a good laugh
good comments lately catherine
Shiva has parralled my silent hypothesis. I always thought naseem to be a pansy. It's obvious that naseem loves getting bitch slapped and how funny that he just lies there and takes it up the.....@#! all the time. Whooohoooo hahhhaaaahhhh naseem you silly fa* LOL Smile when it's big enough :O
Everyone, try analyzing naseem's posts in a gender genie, like this one:
http://www.bookblog.net/gender/genie.html
No matter which section of Naseem's posts I analyzed, the score always returns as male. Just something to think about for y'all.
Thats a Ho!!ho1 good start cross HO! HO!! What a pansy
KJ,
This is for you!
http://www.patronsaints.com/images/DC.jpg
DC Watson wrote an excellent article on the Dhimmni Watch site, many of us read it. For those of you that didn't see it, go back and read it. It's well worth it.
KJ, was childish in his reply, accused DC of "puffing" hisself up in his picture, well.........
I have proof, that is not the case.
SO, KJ, look and weep!
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I suspect that the real reason that you hate Islam is that it has an inherent strength and resilience not found elsewhere...
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This is as absolutely moronic as it is illogical.
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if it has differnt values to you don't hate it just for that...and don't focus exclusively on Jihad.
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How stupid can you be N? We should ignore the death dealing, hate-mongering bits and love the "unbounded richness" of Islam? Like the wife beating? The hatred of women? The totalitarian nature of the whole thing? The brutal justice system? Which one?
I guess knelling down and sticking your ass up in the air 5 times a day doesn't leave a lot of time to think about how screwed up Islam is.
f.g.
Shiva:
Many of us Know of Naseem, and Reza the raisin, but there are times when they appear that there is this desire to sort of try and conjol them into answering a few questions. However we do rarely get a response from them. Most of us that have been commenting on jihadwatch are aware Naseen and Reza cannot see the forest through the trees even when one of the trees is falling on them.
Are there moderate muslims who are very aware of the the militant tenets of the Quran, and the hadith ? of course there are . Many muslim intellectuals are struggling with these every day and realize that the civilized world cannot return to the 10th century. At the beginning of the 20th century there was a strong movement called Jadidism that tried to reconcile the militant tenets with twentieth century thinking . Unfortunatly that effort was crushed in 1929 by the Communist revolution.
You then base your viewpoint simply based on this and that is unhealthy.
Equally, while I see many people here who hate I also see some very reasonable people here. I stick around so that in the longer term you see that there is at least 1 resonable muslim around.
Posted by: Naseem at December 1, 2004 07:54 AM
MORE LIKE A SPY AND IS THAT A THREAT "viewpoint simply unhealthy" CAUSE YOU DON'T SCARE ME!!
YOU SILLY WOMAN WHO LET'S HER MAN BEAT HER??
Posted by: cross at December 1, 2004 08:49 AM
the music man??
When we see conflict all over the world today, its always pepetrated by muslims under the will of "Allah". That is exactly why islam must be stop, not because we can't tolerate islam, but because islam cannot tolerate us. There will come a time when the world will realize that islam has declared war on them and when the world starts to retaliate, the painful fact is that the world will not discriminate between you and the "terrorist".
So if you do not believe in killing infidels, raping women, having sex with underage girls, killing jews, not befriending non-muslims, 70+ virgins in afterlife, then I would advice you to leave islam as your values are incompatible with islam.
Posted by: callistos at December 1, 2004 10:53 AM
gold star for you!!
Posted by: shiva at December 1, 2004 01:19 PM
I KNOW HE IS A HE THAT IS WHY I CALL HIM A SILLY WOMAN WHICH IS IN HER MIND A ANIMAL???
and thats Catherine i'm sure it was a typo on your part??
http://www.onlypunjab.com/fullstory1104-insight-Pink+Locusts+from+North+Africa-status-15-newsID-503.html
Pink Locusts from North Africa Swarm Through Cairo
Publish Date : 11/18/2004 5:09:00 PM Source : Science and Technology News Onlypunjab.com
Swarms of pink locusts swept through the Egyptian capital on Wednesday, evoking the biblical description of the plagues which struck in the time of Moses.
The swarms of millions flew high above tall towers or swooped down onto treelined streets, where scared pedestrians stamped
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
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Sweet DC need guys who can carry the big stuff like the Elks and 308 are really heavy??
Church burned to the ground today in Mas stock up??
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PS
Love What President Bush said in Canada today
Have to stop the mad mullhas or our Children and Grandchildren will be in a living Nightmare!!
Even the Canadains liked that
PSS
Gary if this had spell ck I'd love it and use it some times anyway??
Mr/Mrs/Miss/Hermaphrodite Shiva [sala kuta]
I don’t waste my precious time worrying about whether you think I am male or female, I know that I am a loving woman so don’t worry your ugly head about it.
You say “I have tried to do a little profiling on this nerdest of nerds”
That’s good but I don’t need to profile you …you are the hypocrite of hypocrites. You are happy to let muslims make you money but you can’t stand them. Isn’t that dirty blood money you are collecting…touched by muslim hands…how can you sleep at night knowing this? Do you buy food and put it in your mouth with this money?
You say “As all can see,this naseem,is laughing at all of you”.
No, I am debating …offering a different viewpoint.
You say "Would it not be better to ignore him/then,or if you must make a comment I have a suggestion".
Sure you can ignore me, but judging from the responses I think people like to debate my viewpoint…. I try not to be offensive (unlike you) and do try to see where some of you are coming from!
You say “Islam does not allow laughter”.
That’s because you don’t allow your workers to laugh, you miserable sod.
You said “most muslim have an IQ of a ten year old”.
Judging from your writing skills, I’d say you were closer to a six year old, lookout for those bedtime story books under your bed, sunshine!
You say "good comments lately Catherine".
Yes, Catholic Catherine’s comments are slightly better than yours.
Posted by: Naseem at December 1, 2004 04:03 PM
Are you flirting with me??
Shame on you girl??
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Catherine said:
"Are you flirting with me??
Shame on you girl??"
OMG, I am just howling, Catherine, funniest line of the day!
Naseem,
As I stated before:
So, stop with the stupid excuses, we don't want to hear the bull from a woman obviously broken and repeating the very thing that sucks the spirit out of you.
I have a suggestion,
Go buy the most powerful Hoover you can find, hook up it to your brain and press start.
It will also suck the life out of you in less time and with fair less pain.
Which in turn, would also reduce our pain, the robotic rambling would stop, my ears and eyes would finally stop hurting from reading/hearing the same old tired mantra, over and over again.
"Islam is a religion of peace, Islam is a religion of peace, Islam is a religion of peace"
Christ! Thats almost enough to make someone do a drive-by, run-by, walk-by.
It is amazing that people like Sheik Omar Bakri can demand with a straight face that infidels should be thrown out of Muslim lands, while he is also demanding that Muslims should have more rights in infidel lands. Unbelievable.
Does anyone remember the adage that "A thief is the first one to accuse someone of stealing" that points out the mindset of people.
These poor Muslims,just because they are easily fooled by a cheap ruse to deflect blame,they assume we're equally as stupid to not see through their charade of citing the "Friendly" verses from the Quran while their denial-mode refuses to accept the fact that we in the West know the Jihadists ARE practising the "True" Islam from their version of the Quran.
I amazed at how only a few million Jews can control 6.5 Billion people in all parts of the world,maybe these Jihadists ARE Muslims and pretend to be Jews pretending to be Muslims.
Basically the end result is global Jihad to claim the World for Allah and Islam and rule by Sharia-Law,Muslims in the West may think
their pasive version of Islam is the RIGHT one,but when the Islamists reach America to cleanse it for Allah you may end up being DEAD-RIGHT about your beliefs.
NO ISLAM - KNOW A LIVE THEO VAN GOGH
I see a crack in Naseem's facade:
She posts:
"You are happy to let muslims make you money but you can’t stand them. Isn’t that dirty blood money you are collecting…touched by muslim hands…how can you sleep at night knowing this? Do you buy food and put it in your mouth with this money?"
Well, if what you say is true, then why does the rest of the world have feed most of the entire Middle East?
What money do we get from Muslims?
If it wasn't for the rest of the world, Muslims would starve.
How much aid does the United States give?
Less than 1 percent of the U.S. budget goes to foreign aid. President Bush’s 2003 budget proposes about $11.4 billion in economic assistance and about $4.3 billion for peacekeeping operations and to finance, train, and educate foreign armed forces.
How do U.S. aid levels compare with those of other countries?
The U.S. foreign-aid budget as a percentage of gross national product (GNP) ranks last among the world’s wealthiest countries (at about 0.1 percent). In raw dollars, however, the United States is now the world’s top donor of economic aid, although for more than a decade it was second to Japan, which is far smaller and has been beset by economic woes. In 2001, the United States gave $10.9 billion, Japan $9.7 billion, Germany $4.9 billion, the United Kingdom $4.7 billion, and France $4.3 billion. As a percentage of GNP, however, the top donors were Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, and Sweden. The tiny Netherlands (pop. 16.3 million) gave $3.2 billion in 2001—almost a third of what America contributed.
Susan b:
You reminded me of something that Naseem should read:
Since 1993, Palestinians have received more than $1.3 billion in U.S. economic assistance via USAID projects - more than from any other donor country.
From the US Agency for International Development:
http://www.usaid.gov/wbg/
BTW, Naseem, the reason Islam is so unpopular around here is that people in the Free World are naturally revolted by fascist ideologies. Since World War I, the Muslim world has participated in numerous genocides:
The Armenian Genocide: 1.5 million Christian Armenians killed
The Holocaust: The SS Muslim Hanzar Division was responsible for the deaths of 200,000 Orthodox Christian Serbs, 22,000 Jewish Bosnians and over 40,00 gypsies in the Balkans.
The First Sudanese Genocide: 2 million Christians and animists killed
The Second Sudanese Genocide: 50,000+ black Africans killed, and counting.
Is that what you call "inherent strength"?
Furthermore, if I need a lesson in resiliency, I need look no further than the Jews - Islam has nothing on the Children of Israel.
I think the west will wake up and realize that this is indeed a war between civilizations. It is as basic as good versus evil. The islamists are stone aged people who with the benefit of sudden wealth from oil, have come to life in the 21st century after herding goats and telling each other stories of flying carpets for the past 14 centuries.
They are radicals who will stop at nothing to attempt to convert the infidels to their philosphy.
We need to deport these animals back to their lands, and deal with them in the same manner as the Popes did during the middle ages.
Take NO prisoners!
Does anyone remember the adage that "A thief is the first one to accuse someone of stealing" that points out the mindset of people.
NO ISLAM - KNOW A LIVE THEO VAN GOGH
Posted by: ala-sux at December 1, 2004 06:03 PM
I thought that was about Farts??
but then there is the rule in the quran no farting when prostrate or some thing like that ?so Farting is out??
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Naseem said,
More resiliant than Judiasm or Christianity? Not by thousands of years. Resiliance through conquest, booty, slavery, misogyny, intimidation, and terrorism is not a strength. What happens when the kuffar quit providing Islam with all the technology you take for granted? Back to the Seventh Century we go.
That's right, blame someone else. Remember Snowball? Well, as it turns out, he was on the side of Jones for years in advance, even before the Rebellion. And the windmill? He destroyed that too. Anything else? It was him.
'Does anyone remember the adage that "A thief is the first one to accuse someone of stealing" that points out the mindset of people.'~ Ala-sux
... and the first person who came to mind was keithjoy, with his rants and raves about conservatives, assuming any and all race crimes are by Republicans, inserting hate-filled thoughts in people's heads, refusing to acknowledge when Anyone answers his 'questions'. Is it any wonder the Left and muslims seem to have so much in common?
Did anyone notice (I can't read all the posts) how this character was holding and pointing his weapon?
Typical gang land mentality.
"See hee now? Ize plug a cap in da brane, jus' t' show yuh fokes da I shoots strates."
"Ize notiss nuttin, 'cept wens Ize sees da man's kross-hares hy-litenin' my fo-hed!"
Muslims speak the same freaking crap.
Hey Naseem, you could start acknowledging the *unjustified* hatred perpetuated by Islam instead of being an apologist, and maybe people would give you proper credit. Naseem, I understand it would be hard for you to come back to this forum and read replies directed at you. Your conscience is not right. If you had a conscience, you would leave Islam, and you would feel better in the end.
Naseem :
the reason we 'hate Islam' is that we see a it as a threat to our way of life. Stated simply - most of us do not want it in our countries. Most of us find your 7th century beliefs an insult to our intelligence.
Unlike Muslims, people in the west have fought many battles for freedom of thought, speech and movement. Unlike Muslims, we are not content to be slaves to any despot who manages to gain power, and to believe any superstitious nonsense fed to us by 'leaders'.
What are these 'inherent riches' you speak of?
Subjection of females to males? The illiteracy of most Muslim females? Stoning of rape victims? Cutting the hands off thieves? Forced marriages? The vile bigoted rants of your so-called 'clerics'? The fact that people who call themselves 'men of God' would call on their followers to murder others is an eternal blot on Islam, and it will never be removed.
Where are your scientists and doctors? Where are your philosophers and intellectuals? Where are your great authors and artists? Every comfort in your lives, you owe to western civilisation.
Perhaps thats your problem.
SusanB,
So KJ thinks DCs trying to bulk up in his photo huh??? Well it certainly raises the question: would KJ be able to do the same with his miniscule, 8-year-old-girl-esque body .... and the answer "NO" springs instantly to mind. KJ, once we've seen a picture of your (ahem) muscular (prrrwahahaha!!!!) frame, then we'll take you're sour grapes a little more seriously.
Naseem,
Shiva raises a fair point, the way you talk down to Susan, even though she was right on the mark, shows you seem to have little respect for women, either because you're a woman, and have just accepted what islam has drilled into all muslims... that women are inferior, and worth nothing other than use as sex-slaves; or because you're a man and.... well... believe women are worth nothing other than use as sex slaves.
You know very well what Susan was getting at by using the "Adam and Eve" scenario.... the word "metaphor" may not have reached the shores of Pakistan yet, but over here our girls are pretty educated y'know... besides who are you to be calling her comments "unscientific", I thought a totally religious outlook on things, with disregard for any kind of scientific conclusion, would have been right up your street (obviously little Nazzy-wazzy starting to have doubts about the legitimacy of the korans violent ramblings.... am I right???).
You know very well what Susan was getting at by using the "Adam and Eve" scenario.... the word "metaphor" may not have reached the shores of Pakistan yet, but over here our girls are pretty educated y'know... besides who are you to be calling her comments "unscientific", I thought a totally religious outlook on things, with disregard for any kind of scientific conclusion, would have been right up your street (obviously little Nazzy-wazzy starting to have doubts about the legitimacy of the korans violent ramblings.... am I right???).
Posted by: Rikki at December 2, 2004 07:07 AM
THOUGHT YOU WOULD GET A KICK OUT OF THIS??
ISLAMIC SCIENCE:
Bukhari:V4B55N546 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Gabriel has just now told me of the answer. If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble him, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her.’”
Tabari I:258/Qur’an 15:26 “Allah created Adam from sticky clay, meaning viscous and sweet smelling slime, being stinking. It became stinking slime after having been compact soil.”
Qur’an 80:17 “Be cursed man! He has self-destructed. From what stuff did He create him? From nutfa (male and female semen drops) He created him and set him in due proportion.”
Tabari I:258 “Allah sent Gabriel to the earth to bring Him some clay. The earth said, ‘I take refuge in Allah against you mutilating me. Then He sent the angel of death. He took some soil from the earth and made a mixture. He did not take it from a single place but took red, white, and black soil. Therefore, the children of Adam came out different.”
Bukhari:V4B54N430 “Allah’s Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, ‘Regarding the matter of the creation of a human being: humans are put together in the womb of the mother in forty days. Then he becomes a clot of thick blood for a similar period. He becomes a piece of flesh for forty days. Then Allah sends an angel who is ordered to write four things: the new creature’s deeds, livelihood, date of death, and whether he will be blessed or wretched. He will do whatever is written for him.’”
Tabari I:293 “When Allah cast Adam down from Paradise, Adam’s feet were on earth while his head was in heaven. He became too familiar with the angels and they were in awe of him so much so that they complained to Allah in their various prayers. Allah, therefore, lowered Adam. But Adam missed what he used to hear from the angels and felt lonely. He complained to Allah and was sent to Mecca. On the way every place where he set foot became a village, and the interval between his steps became a desert until he reached Mecca.”
Bukhari:V4B54N482 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The Hell Fire complained to its Lord saying, “O my Lord! My different parts are eating each other up.” So, He allowed it to take two breaths, one in winter, the other in summer. This is the reason for the severe heat and bitter cold you find in weather.’”
Bukhari:V1B10N510 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘If it is very hot, the severity of the heat is from the raging of the Hell Fire.’”
Qur’an 56:58 “Then tell Me the semen that you emit, throwing out. Is it you who create it, or are We the Creators? [It’s only natural—the god of lust is the god of semen.] We have decreed/predestined/ordained Death for you all, and We are not to be frustrated from replacing you with others in (forms) that you know not.”
Ishaq:255 “Jewish rabbis came to the Apostle and asked him to answer four questions saying, ‘If you do so we will follow you, testify to your truth, and believe in you.’ They began, ‘Why does a boy resemble his mother when the semen comes from the father?’ Muhammad replied, ‘Do you not know that a man’s semen is white and thick and a woman’s is yellow and thin? The likeness goes with that which comes to the top.’ ‘Agreed,’ the rabbis proclaimed. ‘Tell us about your sleep.’ ‘Do you not know that a sleep which you allege I do not have is when the eye sleeps but the heart is awake?’ ‘Tell us about what Israel [Jacob] voluntarily forbade himself.’ ‘Do you not know that the food he loved best was the flesh and milk of camels or perhaps two lobes of liver, kidneys, and fat?’ ‘Tell us about the spirit.’ ‘‘Do you not know that it is Gabriel, he who comes to me?’ ‘Agreed,’ the rabbis said. ‘But Muhammad, your spirit is an enemy to us, an angel who comes only with violence and the shedding of blood, and were it not for that we would follow you.”
Qur’an 33:72 “We did indeed offer the opportunity to the Heavens, the Earth, the Mountains, but they refused to take it, being afraid (of Allah’s torment). But man undertook it. He was unjust and foolish. Lo, he has proved a tyrant and fool, ignorant. Allah has to punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Unbelievers.”
AND THEN THERE IS THIS??
ALLAH’S ASTRONOMY:
Tabari I:232 “Gabriel brings to the sun a garment of luminosity from the light of Allah’s Throne according to the measure of the hours of the day. The garment is longer in the summer and shorter in the winter, and of intermediate length in autumn and spring. The sun puts on that garment as one of you here puts on his clothes.”
Tabari I:233 “When the Messenger was asked about that, he replied, ‘When Allah was done with His creation He created two suns from the light of His Throne. His foreknowledge told Him that He would efface one and change it to a moon; so the moon is smaller in size.”
Tabari I:234 “Allah thus sent Gabriel to drag his wing three times over the face of the moon, which at the time was a sun. He effaced its luminosity and left the light in it. This is what Allah means: [in Qur’an 17:12] ‘We have blotted out the sign of the night, and We have made the sign of the day something to see by.’ The blackness you can see as lines on the moon is a trace of the blotting.”
Tabari I:244 “Allah then created for the sun a chariot with 360 handholds from the luminosity of the light of the Throne and entrusted 360 of the angels inhabiting the lower heaven with the sun and its chariot, each of them gripping one of those handholds. Allah also entrusted 360 angels with the moon.”
Tabari I:234 “Then the Prophet said: ‘For the sun and the moon, Allah created easts and wests on the two sides of the earth and the two rims of heaven. There are 180 springs in the west of black clay-this is why Allah’s word says: “He found the sun setting in a muddy spring.” [18:86] The black clay bubbles and boils like a pot when it boils furiously.’”
Qur’an 18:83 “They ask you about Dhu’l-Qarnain [Alexander the Great]. Say, ‘I will cite something of his story. We gave him authority in the land and means of accomplishing his goals. So he followed a path until he reached the setting place of the sun. He saw that it set in black, muddy, hot water. Near it he found people.”
Tabari I:236 “‘When the sun rises upon its chariot from one of those springs it is accompanied by 360 angels with outspread wings…. When Allah wishes to test the sun and the moon, showing His servants a sign and thereby getting them to obey, the sun tumbles from the chariot and falls into the deep end of that ocean. When Allah wants to increase the significance of the sign and frighten His servants severely, all of the sun falls and nothing of it remains in the chariot. That is a total eclipse of the sun. It is a misfortune for the sun.’”
Tabari I:235 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Allah created an ocean three farakhs (918 kilometers) removed from heaven. Waves contained, it stands in the air by the command of Allah. No drop of it is spilled. All the oceans are motionless, but that ocean flows at the speed of an arrow. The sun, moon and retrograde stars [planets] by which Allah swears in the Qur’an [81:15], run like the sun and moon and race. All of the other stars are suspended from heaven as lamps are from mosques, and circulate together praising Allah. The Prophet said, ‘If you wish to have this made clear, look to the circulation of the sphere alternately here and there.’”
Tabari I:236 “Allah created two cities out in space, each with ten thousand gates, each 6 kilometers distant from the other. By Allah, were those people not so many and so noisy, all the inhabitants of this world would hear the loud crash made by the sun falling when it rises and when it sets. Gabriel took me to them during my Night Journey from the Sacred Mosque [the Ka’aba] to the Farthest Mosque [the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem]. I told the people of these cities to worship Allah but they refused to listen to me.”
Bukhari:V4B54N421 “I walked hand in hand with the Prophet when the sun was about to set. We did not stop looking at it. The Prophet asked, ‘Do you know where the sun goes at sunset?’ I replied, ‘Allah and His Apostle know better.’ He said, ‘It travels until it falls down and prostrates Itself underneath the Throne. The angels who are in charge of the sun prostrate themselves, also. The sun asks permission to rise again. It is permitted. Then it will prostrate itself again but this prostration will not be accepted. The sun then says, “My Lord, where do You command me to rise, from where I set or from where I rose?” Allah will order the sun to return whence it has come and so the sun will rise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the statement of Allah in the Qur’an.’”
Qur’an 36:38 “The sun keeps revolving in its orbit at the dispensation of the All-Knowing. And the Moon, We have measured for her mansions till she returns like dried date stalks. It is not permitted for the Sun to overtake the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day. Each (just) swims along, floating in (its own) orbit as a Sign as in a race. And we made similar vessels [chariots] for them to ride. But we could have drowned them if we pleased.”
Tabari I:332 “The sun and the moon were in eclipse for seven days and nights.”
Qur’an 67:3 “We created seven heavens, one above the other. Muhammad, can you see any fault in Ar-Rahman’s creation? Look again: Can you see any rifts or fissures? Then look again and yet again. Your gaze turns back dazed and tired. We have adorned the lowest skies with lamps, and We have made them missiles to drive away the devils and against the stone Satans, and for them We have prepared the doom of Hell and the penalty of torment in the most intense Blazing Fire.”
Qur’an 38:27 “We have not created the heavens and earth and all that lies between for nothing.”
Qur’an 21:26 “Don’t the unbelievers see that the heavens and earth were joined together in one piece before we clove them asunder? ...Will they not believe? And We have set on the earth mountains as stabilizers, lest the earth should convulse without them. And We have made therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided. We have made the heaven a roof well guarded. Yet they turn away from its Signs! All (the celestial bodies) swim along, on a course, floating.”
Qur’an 2:189 “They ask you about the New Moons. Say: They are but signs to mark fixed seasons in (the affairs of) men, and for Hajj Pilgrimage.”
Tabari I:204 “I asked the Prophet, ‘Where was Allah before His creation?’ Muhammad replied: ‘He was in a cloud with no air underneath or above it.’”
Tabari I:219 “When Allah wanted to create the creation, He brought forth smoke from the water. The smoke hovered loftily over it. He called it ‘heaven.’ Then He dried out the water and made it earth. He split it and made it seven earths on Sunday. He created the earth upon a big fish, that being the fish mentioned in the
Qur’an. By the Pen, the fish was in the water. The water was upon the back of a small rock. The rock was on the back of an angel. The angel was on a big rock. The big rock was in the wind. The fish became agitated. As a result, the earth quaked, so Allah anchored the mountains and made it stable. This is why the Qur’an says, ‘Allah made for the earth firmly anchored mountains, lest it shake you up.’”
MORE ISLAMIC TERRORIST DEAD TODAY IN IRAQ!!
Bukhari:V4B54N506 “When a human being is born, Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers. That is why it cries.’”
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BTK is caught was a mulsum convert??
In my earlier comment which can be read at
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004118.php#c57042
I said
"As for Islam being hijacked by extremists.
What "hijacking"?
Hijackacked by 93% of Muslims?
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3684324.stm "
I would like to make it clear that I was not saying then that literally, 93% of muslims support terrorism (e.g. beheadings).
Just that there possibly is that much support for terrorism among some muslims, such as viewers of al-Jazeera TV.
I apologise for not adding this in my original comment.
It was a mistake. I knew but just forgot to put it in since I was rushing and was trying to make my comment brief.
I am surprised no one has raised this point up.