From Southern California's Daily Breeze, with thanks to Anthony:
An Orange County mosque leader from Egypt who authorities said had given speeches that could be considered supportive of terrorist organizations agreed Tuesday to leave the United States voluntarily, giving up his fight to remain in the country.Wagdy Ghoneim is being held at the federal immigration detention center on Terminal Island. As part of the agreement with government attorneys, he avoids deportation in exchange for admitting he was in the United States in violation of his immigration status, said Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration Customs Enforcement.
He must leave the United States by Jan. 7. By agreeing to voluntary removal, Ghoneim, the imam at the Islamic Institute of Orange County, is eligible to reapply for entry into the country.Ghoneim, 53, was arrested at his Anaheim home last month on an immigration violation, but authorities had declined to disclose details about the case.
At the time, his lawyer and supporters said the arrest was a mistake and that he expected to be released soon.
Ghoneim has been held without bond since then "based upon Department of Homeland Security concerns that his past speeches and participation in fund-raising activities could be supportive of terrorist organizations," Kice said, declining to provide further details.
Meanwhile, the standard allegations of mistreatment, which would be more credible if they weren't made every time (like the protestations of innocence and discrimination):
Muslim leaders say he was hospitalized with chest pains during his detention and that he was handcuffed and chained to his hospital bed. When family members tried to check on his condition, they were reportedly turned away, according to the Council on American Islamic Relations Southern California.
Let's see the same effort by American authorities address EVERY foreign born imman.
While we're at it, invite every American muslim that expresses disenchantment with the American way, specifically CAIR members, to pack their bags and resettle in whatever imagined islamic paradise they came from or dream of.
Cordially show them the door then slam it shut when they are out.
Toodles. . . bye bye.
"Muslim leaders say he was hospitalized with chest pains during his detention and that he was handcuffed and chained to his hospital bed."
Why do they constantly portray themselves as victims? Is their no shame that their every excuse is treachery and decption and relies on allegations of some perceived abuse, insult or repression? My God, if he were really mistreated I would demand it redressed, but the frequency of such claims by Moslems leads many to immediately assume that it is just another ruse designed to toy with us. It strengthens their position while weakening our resolve and ability to expeditiously address Islamic criminals in America, bogging down our court system.
As an Immigrant group, they are the most troublesome and proven to be prone to acts of extreme violence in their quest to modify host countries, is why their numbers must be limited in the West. It is clear there can NEVER be an "American" or "European" brand of Islam which does not change their host countries into Islamic ones.
God, they're such drama queens. They take the old poor, pitiful me, victim act to new heights. Grown, adult men, acting like hysterical children. Our own Sheikh Hilaly here in Oz, when arrested for being an irresponsible idiot in his car, suddenly "felt ill" and had to be taken to the hospital. Then we were afflicted with a soap opera on the nightly news. His "traumatized" daughters visiting him in the hospital. His loyal lap-dog spokesperson expressing such grave concern for his precious spiritual leader (who was inflicted on our country by backroom dealings by a previous leftie idiot govt). Oy! He survived in one piece. Unfortunately. And even more unfortunately for us, we weren't blessed with any deportation prospect. But so typical, isn't it? So into this victimocrat thing, blame, blame, blame, oh you are oppressing me! Bad, nasty infidels. Racists, bigots, Islamophobes! Boo hoo hoo. With trusty lawyers and multiculti-industry advocates adding to the hysteria, not helping the situation at all.
Here's hoping that this Wagdy drama queen does really leave the US, and doesn't find some excuse to stay.
Why are we fishing for jihadis in the States using "catch and release" (deportation) rules? Deporting jihadis only provides them another opportunity to cause us harm in the near future. I'm thinking that transportation would be a much more useful tool, especially if that transportation were to a location such as Gitmo. To hell with what the rest of the world thinks, as we are engaged in a hot war with jihadis, and their active and passive supporters. The cancer of islamic ideology must be removed from the race of humanity, and Gitmo is a perfect isolation ward for just such diseased "humans."
Yeah, you're right, Rick. Deport them, but will they just go to some other bleeding heart Western country and cause the same problems there? Or somehow end up returning under a new, forged identity? Like you said, to hell with world opinion. Do we really care what sissy, doomed countries like France think? Damned if we, damned if we don't. It's not as if the jihadis will be nice to the US if the US is nice to them.
That's why most Aussies are not anxious to have that Hicks loser jihadi returned here from Gitmo. We don't have the appropriate retroactive laws to deal with him, he'd likely be released. And probably end up suing for compo, or end up making wads of cash doing interviews with lefty journos drooling at any opportunity to slag the Howard govt and make Aussies "feel ashamed to be Australians". Boo hoo hoo.
Islamic Institute of Orange County....same as Adam Gadahn and Siddiqui....
FREEDOM DON'T COME FOR FREE
December 29, 2004
Yesterday Apartment fire in Austin TX??
Today, Explosion at a OK Steal Plant??
Heard a UN=LON guy say if you give money to the International Red Cross it is the same as the Red Crescent they divide the money?? So if you give to this fund??? Give to places like the Christian funds or the Israeli Funds so they stay with our causes!! I am talking about the NGOs Like operation Blessing and others!!
Also heard J. Mowbray say Israel Offered Help and was turned down by Sri Launka ?? I think this should be the Standard that if they turn down Israel’s help we should look at not giving help because they are not wanting anything but our demise??
Heard that Israel has sent a team of Doctors to Thailand!
REMEMBER
JQ Adams
.LETS HOPE THE PRESIDENT AND VIC PRESIDENT ARE DOING THEIR HISTORY STUDYS AND ARE INTO JQ ADAMS??
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=15201
John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad
By Andrew G. Bostom
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 29, 2004
John Quincy Adams possessed a remarkably clear, uncompromised understanding of the permanent Islamic institutions of jihad war and dhimmitude. Regarding jihad, Adams states in his essay series,
“…he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God.”
And Adams captured the essential condition imposed upon the non-Muslim dhimmi “tributaries” subjugated by jihad, with this laconic statement,
“The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute.”
Indeed, the famous Shafi’i jurist of Baghdad, al-Mawardi (d. 1058), highlights the most salient aspect of the consensus view of classical Islamic jurisprudence regarding the vanquished non-Muslims “tribute”, i.e., the jizya: the critical connection between jihad and payment of the jizya. He notes that “The enemy makes a payment in return for peace and reconciliation.” Al-Mawardi then distinguishes two cases: (I) Payment is made immediately and is treated like booty, however “it does, however, not prevent a jihad being carried out against them in the future.”. (II). Payment is made yearly and will “constitute an ongoing tribute by which their security is established.” Reconciliation and security last as long as the payment is made. If the payment ceases, then the jihad resumes. A treaty of reconciliation may be renewable, but must not exceed 10 years.4 The nature of such “protection”, i.e., a blood ransom, is reinforced in this definition of jizya written by E.W. Lane, based on a careful analysis of the etymology of the term:
“The tax that is taken from the free non-Muslim subjects of a Muslim government whereby they ratify the compact that assures them protection, as though it were compensation for not being slain” 5
Adams on Jihad War, Dhimmitude, and the Muslim View of Non-Muslims; Examples of the Perfidy of Muslim States, Including the Ottoman Turkish State
“As the essential principle of his faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.
They [The Russians] have been from time immemorial, in a state of almost perpetual war with the Tatars, and with their successors, the Ottoman conquerors of Constantinople. It were an idle waste of time to trace the causes of each renewal of hostilities, during a succession of several centuries. The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When our gallant [Stephen] Decatur ref had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded. The arrival of Chauncey, with a squadron before Algiers, silenced the fraudulent claim of the Dey, and he signed a new treaty in which it was abandoned; but he disdained to conceal his intentions; my power, said he, has been wrested from my hands; draw ye the treaty at your pleasure, and I will sign it; but beware of the moment, when I shall recover my power, for with that moment, your treaty shall be waste paper. He avowed what they always practised, and would without scruple have practised himself. Such is the spirit, which governs the hearts of men, to whom treachery and violence are taught as principles of religion.” [p. 274-275]
“Had it been possible for a sincere and honest peace to be maintained between the Osmanli and his christian neighbors, then would have been the time to establish it in good faith. But the treaty was no sooner made than broken. It never was carried into effect by the Turkish government.” [p. 276]
“From the time when the disaster of Navarino ref had been made known to him, the Reis Effendi [Ottoman diplomat assigned to Russia] had assumed the tone of the aggrieved party, and made formal demands of indemnity, and the punishment of the offending admirals. He still manifested however, a solicitude to prevent the rupture of the negotiations by the departure of the ambassadors…” [p. 298]
“Upon the departure of the ambassadors, the Sultan, who must have been, however, unwillingly preparing his mind for that event, immediately determined upon two things; a war with Russia alone – and a dallying attempt to protract the negotiation, and gain time of preparation for the conflict.” [p. 298]
[From the Ottoman Reis Effendi, to his Russian counterparts] ‘The present friendly letter has been composed and sent, to acquaint your excellency. with the circumstance; when you shall learn, on receipt of it, that the Sublime Porte has at all times; no other desire or wish than to preserve peace, and good understanding ; and that the event in question has been brought about, entirely by the act of the said minister, we hope that you will endeavor, do every occasion, to fulfil the duties of friendship.’ But precisely at the time when this mild, and candid, and gently expostulary epistle was despatched for St. Petersburg, another state paper was issued, addressed by the Sultan to his own subjects-this was the Hatti Sheriff of the 20th of December, sent to the Pashas of all the provinces, calling on all the faithful Mussulmen of the empire to come forth and 'fight for their religion, and their country, against the infidel despisers of the Prophet. The comparison of these two documents with each other, will afford the most perfect illustration of the Ottoman faith, as well as of their temper towards Russia.
The Hatti Sheriff commenced with the following admirable commentary upon the friendly profession, which introduced the letter to count Nesselrode. ‘It is well known (said the Sultan) to almost every person, that if the Mussulmen naturally hate the infidels, the infidels, on then part, are the enemies of the Mussulmen : that Russia, more especially, bears a particular hatred to Islamism, and that she is the principal enemy of the Sublime Porte.’
This appeal to the natural hatred of the Mussulmen towards the infidels, is in just accordance with the precepts of the Koran. The document does not attempt to disguise it, nor even pretend that the enmity of those whom it styles the infidels, is any other than the necessary consequence of the hatred borne by the Mussulmen to them—the paragraph itself, is a forcible example of the contrasted character of the two religions. The fundamental doctrine of the christian religion, is the extirpation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of it, even towards enemies. There is no denomination of christians, which denies or misunderstands this doctrine. All understand it alike—all acknowledge its obligations ; and however imperfectly, in the purposes of Divine Providence, its efficacy has been shown in the practice of christians, it has not been wholly inoperative upon them. Its effect has been upon the manners of nations. It has mitigated the horrors of war – it has softened the features of slavery – it has humanized the intercourse of social life. The unqualified acknowledgement of a duty does not, indeed, suffice to insure its performance. Hatred is yet a passion, but too powerful upon the hearts of christians. Yet they cannot indulge it, except by the sacrifice of their principles, and the conscious violation of their duties. No state paper from a Christian hand, could, without trampling the precepts of its Lord and Master, have commenced by an open proclamation of hatred to any portion of the human race. The Ottoman lays it down as the foundation of his discourse. [p. 299-300]
“The last appeal of the Sultan to the fanaticism of his people, and to the protection of his prophet, has been vain. He told them, that since the happy time of their great prophet, the faithful Mussulmen had never taken into consideration the numbers of the infidels. He reminded them, too truly reminded them, how often they had put millions of Christians to the sword; how many states and provinces they had thus conquered, sword in hand.” 9 [p. 302]
“[More from the Ottoman Sultan’s pronouncement to his subjects]...‘all infidels are but one nation…This war must be considered purely a religious and national war. Let all the faithful, rich or poor, great or little, know, that to fight is a duty with us; let them then refrain from thinking of arrears, or of pay of any kind; far from such considerations, let us sacrifice our property and our persons; let us execute zealously the duties which the honor of Islamism imposes on us – let us unite our efforts, and labor, body and soul, for the support of religion, until the day of judgement. Mussulmen have no other means of working out salvation in this world and the next.’”
Those provinces are the abode of ten millions of human beings, two thirds of whom are Christians, groaning under the intolerable oppression of less than three millions of Turks. Those provinces are in some of the fairest regions of the earth. They were Christian countries, subdued during the conquering period of the Mahometan imposture, by the ruthless scymetar of the Ottoman race; and under their iron yoke, have been gradually dwindling in population, and sinking into barbarism. The time of their redemption is at hand.” [p. 303]
“With regard to the Hatti Sheriff of the 20th of December, summoning the whole Ottoman nation to arms against Russia, the sultan now thinks proper to say, that it was only a proclamation which the Sublime Porte, for certain reasons, circulated in its states; an internal transaction, of which the Sublime Porte alone knows the motives, and that the language held by a government to its own subjects cannot b a ground for another government to pick a quarrel with it – especially, as the Grand Vizier had, immediately after the departure of the Russian envoy, written a letter to the prime minister of Russia, declaring the desire of the Sublime Porte till to maintain peace. That if Russia had conceived suspicions, from the Sultan’s address to his subjects, she might have applied amicably to the Porte to ascertain the truth and clear up her doubts.” [p. 311]
Justice of the Greek Revolution
“If ever insurrection was holy in the eyes of God, such was that of the Greeks against their Mahometan oppressors. Yet for six long years, they were suffered to be overwhelmed by the whole mass of the Ottoman power; cheered only by the sympathies of all the civilized world, but without a finger raised to sustain or relieve them by the Christian governments of Europe; while the sword of extermination, instinct with the spirit of the Koran, was passing in merciless horror over the classical regions of Greece, the birth-place of philosophy, of poetry, of eloquence, of all the arts that embellish, and all the sciences that dignify the human character. The monarchs of Austria, of France, and England, inflexibly persisted in seeing in the Greeks, only revolted subjects against a lawful sovereign. The ferocious Turk eagerly seized upon this absurd concession, and while sweeping with his besom of destruction over the Grecian provinces, answered every insinuation of interest in behalf of that suffering people, by assertions of the unqualified rights of sovereignty, and by triumphantly retorting upon the legitimates of Europe, the consequences naturally flowing from their own perverted maxims.” [p. 278]
“This pretended discovery of a plot between Russia and the Greeks, is introduced, to preface an exulting reference to the unhallowed butchery of the Greek Patriarch and Priests, on Easter day of 1822, at Constantinople, and to the merciless desolation of Greece, which it calls ‘doing justice by the sword’ to a great number of rebels of the Morea, of Negropont, of Acarnania, Missolonghi, Athens, and other parts 10 of the continent.The document acknowledges, that although during several years, considerable forces, both naval and military, had been sent against the Greeks, they had not succeeded in suppressing the insurrection.” [p. 301]
LIKE THE PART OF THAT THE EU THEN SAT BACK AND SENT KISES WHILE THEY DID NOTHING JUST LIKE TODAY UNTIL IT WAS THEIR NECKS ON THE BLOCK??
HOW THINGS NEVER CHANGE??
175lbs of cocaine caught in Cleveland Ohio marked in 55gal barrels toys? From Santa’s Helper from Calf???
Buses in Indonesia on the way to airport to go to Mecca ALL Dead??
Iraqi Police lured to house Exploded & 10 houses brought down??
When will the Iraqis grow some Balls and help KILL the MonstersIslamic Terrorist who kill their Children and Brave who stand to fight the Islamic Terrorist they are many and the Monsters are Few??
Only Thailand has accepted help from Israel??
Saudis give 10 million??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO CRUSH ALL THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THREAT AMEN
PS
J&J gives 2 million we need to keep track of all the money that comes to this killer wave not just tax money and see who is the most gen. we know who will come out on top as always!!
We need to do that for all forgein help so we can not be called cheep after all we had already given 10million to Sri Lanka just this year alone befor the killer wave[Flood]
Wait till Mubarak's goons get their meathooks into him - that'll give him something to complain about.
There's nothing quite like having electrodes attached to your "sensitive parts" to make you appreciate just how good you had it in the US.
Unfortunately for Wagdy Ghoneim, that realization will be coming a little too late.
Boo-hoo, indeed.
Is Catherine some kind of channel bot that just spews out random text fragments?
Mike
Hate t tell you But they aint going to do sh-t to this guy they sent him??
It is to Egypt's advantage to keep this going look at all the money they get??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT AND COURAGE TO CRUSH ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
REMEMBER??
And Adams captured the essential condition imposed upon the non-Muslim dhimmi “tributaries” subjugated by jihad, with this laconic statement,
“The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute.”
Indeed, the famous Shafi’i jurist of Baghdad, al-Mawardi (d. 1058), highlights the most salient aspect of the consensus view of classical Islamic jurisprudence regarding the vanquished non-Muslims “tribute”, i.e., the jizya: the critical connection between jihad and payment of the jizya. He notes that “The enemy makes a payment in return for peace and reconciliation.” Al-Mawardi then distinguishes two cases: (I) Payment is made immediately and is treated like booty, however “it does, however, not prevent a jihad being carried out against them in the future.”. (II). Payment is made yearly and will “constitute an ongoing tribute by which their security is established.” Reconciliation and security last as long as the payment is made. If the payment ceases, then the jihad resumes. A treaty of reconciliation may be renewable, but must not exceed 10 years.4 The nature of such “protection”, i.e., a blood ransom, is reinforced in this definition of jizya written by E.W. Lane, based on a careful analysis of the etymology of the term:
“The tax that is taken from the free non-Muslim subjects of a Muslim government whereby they ratify the compact that assures them protection, as though it were compensation for not being slain” 5
PSS
WE MUST STOP THE PAYMENTS AND HARDEN OUR HEARTS AND DO WHAT THEY THINK WE WILL NOT AND WE WILL FORGIVE OURSELVES LIKE OUR GRANDPARENTS DID IN WW2!!
Is Catherine some kind of channel bot that just spews out random text fragments?
Posted by: Arhopala at December 29, 2004 12:27 PM
Just a Redneck Gal who loves her short skirts and freedom!!
SAD HEARD TODAY IN SAN FRAN THEY WANT TO TAKE THE PEOPLES GUNS CAUSE THAY HAD 87 MUDERS THIS YEAR?? DON'T GIVE UP YOUR GUNS THIS IS THE FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFES??
REMEMBER THAT HAPPEN IN DC 15 YEARS AGO AND THEY ARE THE MURDER CAPTIAL OF THE USA??
WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING EVIL PREVAILS!!
OVER 400 CAR CRASHES IN CALF THIS WEEK ARE THEY GOING TO CALL FOR A BAN ON CARS???
ASYLLUM LAWS JUST CHANGED BIG RUSH TO THE BORDER OF CANADA?? ALL THE MUSSIS HEAD YOUR WAY GARY??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Crush ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
Catherine-
Egypt is notorious for torturing Islamists. Hosni Mubarak's sense of "Muslim Brotherhood" only extends but so far.
Rick
The Thais have a novel way of transportation,any chance you got any leaky ocean-going trucks over there,and I he aint got enough to pay for fuel,
give him a pair of flipper and let him swim back to where came from.
Catherine.I was a bit surprised about Sri-lanka not accepting aid from Israel so done a little checking:- Sri Lanka, as the country hardest hit by the disaster, will receive Israeli emergency medical aid, however Israel intends to send food as well as medical supplies to the other countries hit by the quake.
But----
Israeli press reports have said their government's offer of medical aid was blocked by Indonesian authorities who had complained that the 150-strong team Israel planned to send contained 60 soldiers
This comes as no surprise as Indonesia is at war with Isreal,Yet 95% of indos dont even know where Israel is.
little bit of OT
Cambodian court sentences Hambali, five others to life in prison
PHNOM PENH (AFP): A Cambodian court Wednesday sentenced Indonesian terror suspect Hambali, in absentia, and five other Muslims to life in prison for plotting a terrorist attack in the country, while freeing one Egyptian suspect, the judge said.
"The court sentenced Hambali, (Malaysian) Ibrahim and (Egyptian) Rousha Yasser to life in prison," presiding judge Ya Sakhorn told the court.
"The court also sentenced (Cambodian) Sman Ismael (and two Thais) Abdul Azi Haji Chiming and Muhammad Yalaludin Mading to life in prison while (Egyptian) Esam Mohamid Khird Ali is free," he added
Catherine is a butterfly all of her own kind, and I find her posts useful to a great degree. When not, I figured out that by scrolling down the page a bit I get some exercize while I sit here. Everybody wins.
"Is Catherine some kind of channel bot that just spews out random text fragments?"
Posted by: Arhopala at December 29, 2004 12:27 PM
Actually, Arhopala, if you have the time to read or scan Catherine's contributions, you'll find them very on topic, and often they supply information that is useful, interesting, and not always readily available to those of us who aren't skilled at digging stuff up.
Try it! You may end up enjoying it!
A butterfly you say sonofwalker... Anyhow, now that I know she wears short skirts I'm sure I will enjoy reading her contributions. I just wish she would have mentioned it earlier! I imagine a short-skirted warrior is the nightmare of every muslim. Maybe Catherine will be 'our' Princess Xena! I'm still curious about the squirrels and spiders though.
99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer,take one down pass it around 98 bottles of beer on the wall.
And then there was none.
Nice little story here from the Netherlands about a social democrat politician ‘Mohammed el Yaakoubi’ who dumped his wife in Morocco during a ‘vacation’ after taking her two kids, passport and residence slip, then returned to the Netherlands and reported her as ‘missing’. Apparently she was learning Dutch and had become too independent. Fortunately after a couple of months the poor woman got back to Holland and won a court case against her husband. Even though a judge placed her in the right on all counts the social democrats continue to support their man. The wife in the meantime has nothing, no house, income etc. The politician also refuses to accept the judge’s decision. Apparently it’s common practice for Moroccans in the Netherlands to import a dumb bride and then dump them back in Morocco if they become too independent.
PVDA-raadslid dumpt vrouw in Marokko
ING-werknemer en PvdA-raadslid Mohammed el Yaakoubi van het Amsterdamse stadsdeel Geuzenveld-Slotermeer dumpte -net zoals zoveel Marokkanen- zijn vrouw in Marokko. Hij pakte de verbijfsvergunning, haar twee zoontjes en haar paspoort af zodat ze vast zat in Marokko. Mevrouw leerde namelijk Nederlands, werd zelfstandig en dat zinde de kutmarokkaan van de Pvda niet. Gelukkig wist zijn vrouw toch in Nederland te komen om de eikel aan te pakken. En hoewel de rechter de vrouw op ALLE punten in het gelijk stelde, blijven de knuffelaars van de Pvda Amsterdam achter el Yaakoubi staan. Sterker nog, ondanks de uitspraak van de rechter heeft mevrouw Habiba op dit moment niets: De kinderen, de alimentatie en het huis geeft het raadslid niet. Habiba leeft momenteel ondergedoken. Het raadslid weigert zich bij de uitspraak van de rechter neer te leggen. Volgens hem 'heeft ze geen goede invloed op de kinderen'. Marokkanen importeren soms een 'dom' bruidje uit Marokko, om ze vervolgens weer te dumpen als mevrouw te mondig wordt, Nederlandse vrienden krijgt en zo iets stoms doet als 'integreren'.
UPDATE: De Pvda-politicus heeft een valse aangifte gedaan wegens vermissing, hier is nog geen actie tegen ondernomen. Hij trouwde op 30-jarige leeftijd met zijn toen -net- achtienjarige vrouw. Ze waren dus al verloofd toen mevrouw nog minderjarig was. In lijn der verwachting ligt dat zijn vrouw al op 12-jarige leeftijd bestemd was voor deze 'rijke westerling'. Ondertussen zwijgt de Pvda in alle toonaarden.
Fortunately after a couple of months the poor woman got back to Holland and won a court case against her husband. Even though a judge placed her in the right on all counts the social democrats continue to support their man. The wife in the meantime has nothing, no house, income etc. The politician also refuses to accept the judge’s decision. Apparently it’s common practice for Moroccans in the Netherlands to import a dumb bride and then dump them back in Morocco if they become too independent. Posted by Arhopala
How convenient for the misogynist bastards! It would seem that the enlightened social democrats would be outraged at such blatant incivility, or has the institution of marriage lost all sanctity? The wife will be a ward of the state, won't she? I suppose the husband kept the children, as decreed by Islamic law. If the politician refuses to obey the judge's ruling he should be arrested! It is very sad that a neanderthal, polygamist muslim who dumped his wife because she became too independent is still a respected member of society, and a politician no less! What a farce. Are muslims subject to separate laws in the Netherlands? Apparently so.
Chuck:
Thank you for your service to this great nation!
CGW
Now why would a man leave town if he was innocent?
This is the same fellow who spent 24 hours in detention trying to cross into Canada with an invalid visa way back in 1998. And he had the same complaint about his heart.
Lynn
My only comment here is the same as on an article above.
The Bush administration has created an Islamic Republic of Iraq, in the mold of Iran and left in place in Afghanistan a similar Islamic Republic where Sharia rules and is the basis of the Constitution. Question: Why. Bigger Question is why don't conservatives know this or say anything about it. It concerns me greatly. It should concern Mr Spencer and you all, but it doesn't. So Why? We wasted our money and blood to create an Islamic Republic of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Treasonous.
http://scoop.agonist.org/archives/014123.html Iraqi Interim Constitution
[quote]A) Islam is the official religion of the State and is to be considered a source of legislation. No law that contradicts the universally agreed tenets of Islam, the principles of democracy, or the rights cited in Chapter Two of this Law may be enacted during the transitional period. This Law respects the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights of all individuals to freedom of religious belief and practice.
(B) Iraq is a country of many nationalities, and the Arab people in Iraq are an inseparable part of the Arab nation[/quote]
Article A makes clear that Shari'a is the law of the land
Article B makes clear that Iraqi Arabs are part of the pan Arab or Arab Nationalist movement (Nasser or the Ba'aths
Compare the above to the=http://afghangovernment.com/2004constitution.htm]Afghanistan Draft Constitution
Second concern. Facts are that the number of Jihadi's world wide and in Iraq have exploded, Bush kicked the hornets nest of Jihadis and they have created new nests and new Jihadis.
Do we stick our heads in the sand and claim no?
Here is what the http://www.iiss.org/showpage.php?pageID=24 International Institute for Strategic Studies says in Strategic Survey 2003/4
[quote]The war has focused the energies and resources of al-Qaeda and its followers while diluting those of the global counter-terrorism coalition.’[/quote]