Norway: Most Imams boycotted Muslim anti-violence protest march

Let's not be thankless folks. Let's appreciate the imams' rectitude with gratitude. Such displays of unpretentious non-action in condemning a generic violence can only help awaken more people to the dangers posed by islam. The truth is our greatest ally in this clash of civilizations, this war for the soul of humanity.

Lets sign a counter petition expressing encouragement for such straight-talk from the imams, for once.

You got that right Voletti. I would rather have these guys showing themselves for what they are. It's kind of a pain to explain taquia and all that everytime a 'moderate' half heartedly condemns violence.

CAIR Canada is more than willing to support the flag-burning Yahoo's that also show up at anti-Israel rallies and spit on our Police
while tearing up or stepping on a Bible.
Lets not forget the petition CAIR posted after the true Islam was being exposed in the media,their claim to speak for 5 Million Muslims in America rang hollow when the "Not in the name of Islam" petition against terrorism and violence
only received just under 700,000 signatures.
This speak volumes about the near 90 percent of the 5 Million Muslims that didn't agree with the petition,remember,these are the people that amass thousands of whiners to protest over trivial perceptions of Islamophobic rules in the public school system.

I jsut don't trust them,just as I wouldn't trust John Kerry to protect me from war-crimes.
John Kerry's own testamony was quite revealing,he bragged about how he supressed information on war-crimes and atrocities in Vietnam until he returned home and could exploit the tragedy for his personal gain.
It was the Nazi leaders that claimed they never actually killed anybody and were only following orders,Kerry's failure to defend the abused Vietnamese civilians should frighten all Americans about his willingness to supress terrorism information until it suited his cause.

It's the collective behaviour of Muslims that define Islam and Allah,if not then Islam has nothing to do with Muslims and they are the ones that hijacked Islam,not the terrorists .

C'mon now, you know that protesting against violence is 'un-Islamic.'

The invasion of Norway by Islam has begun to tear at the social fabric of the Norwegian culture and seek its destruction through violence and terrorism.

Do you expect them to walk with you when their leaders say:

"I react to the fact that Muslims continuously have to prove that we are against violence by participating in protest marches. We feel we are being forced to take part, says Imran Mushtaq, deputy leader of the Islamic Council of Norway, to Aftenposten."

Would a peacemaker respond with those words?

Do you think political gestures have any meaning besides temporary appeasement when leaders respond by:

"He has therefore launched a campaign encouraging people to sign a petition titled "Muslims in Norway are of course opposed to all violence and criminal acts".

Will this petition be the means to bring a lasting piece to Norway?

"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God".

Where are the peacemakers? Where are the children of God?

Somehow the mere juxtaposition of the words
"NORWAY" and "IMAMS" makes me ill.

I feel like I'm in a science fiction nightmare story which makes the classic "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1950's version) seem terrifyingly prescient.

Maybe a cerebral virus, caused by eating too many sheeps brains, started near Mecca circa 600 A.D. and its first victim was a guy named Mohommad, boy toy of rich caravan widow Aiyisha?

Inshallah?

SORRY-

I got the name of Mohammad's 3rd wife- Aiyisha- mixed up with his 1st -Khadijah! (She was the wealthy older caravan owner.)

There were at least a dozen wives, so I can be forgiven the mix-up.

They were:

1) Khadijah 2) Sawda 3) Aiyisha 4)Hafsah 5) Zaynab
6) Salama 7) Zaynab II 8) Juwariya 9) Safiyya
10) Umma 11) Mayamuna & 12) Maria

I forget which one was 6 years old when they 'married'- and a ripe old 9 when the wedding was 'consummated'.

As a footnote-

this polygamy was one of the main early reasons why so many patriarchally-inclined tribes and cities accepted Islamic invasion from the 7th century onward. What guy wouldn't go for a religion that says:

"Hey! You're a good-looking guy. You want TWO wives? Three? Ten? Have we got a religion for you! Plus, you can beat them with our God's blessing, and, brother, get ready for those HOT HOT HOT 9 years olds! Wow!"

Thanks to a friend!

It was Aiyisha who was 6 when she was 'married' to Mohammad and 9 when Mo began to 'bestow upon her his connubial attentions'.

Apologists on Islamic information sites do not mention her age, but merely fudge (sic) the issue by saying:

"...although she [Aisha] was young, she was mature enough to understand the responsibility of marriage..."

VIZ-

http://anwary-islam.com/women/prophets-wives.htm

Funny, when I was 9 I didn't understand "the responsibility of taking out the trash", much less of marriage.

But them I am a backward Infidel.

Selah!

ala-sux, hello my friend. You're exactly right about the Muslim civil rights group and their little petition (not in the name of Islam)......less than 700,00 signatures out of 7-800 million Muslims worldwide and 3 million here in the U.S.

1. Either most Muslims know what's up with these groups and pay no attention to them and their website propaganda.

or

2. Most Muslims don't agree with the attempt to separate Islam and violence. Either way, the amount of signatures is very low for such a peaceful, tolerant, loving "religion"....

Do the Norwegians expect Moslems to integrate and become normal citizens in the nation? Do we expect it? Do Moslems expect it? Will Islam become just another mood among some people, not a big deal, a slight veneer of difference on an otherwise Scandanavian?

V.S. Naipaul writes of my favorite Moslem, a man living in Pakistan:

"His world had shrunk to a hut in a crumbling village. He was prepared for even that to crumble away further, ocne the faith was served."

Among the Believers, p. 89.

Huge often refers to the book by Eric Hoffer, The True Believer, that sums up Moslems very nicely. The point is that they are not the ones we should be concerned about in this struggle to roll back the encroachment of Islam in Europe. Nor, I argue, are the neo-Nazi/hobby-Communist Leftists. We should put our time into educating and recruiting those among us who are already terrified by the spectre hanging over Europe, the spectre of Islam. Those who are true believers are beyond hope, and they are a waste of time and energy when we chase after them like dogs after a rabbit. Forget them. Look to your neighbors.

I've been through this so many times here and elsewhere that I fear I'm like the character in Dostoyevski's novel The House of the Dead.

There is the self-regard that excites a man and makes him demand the floor repeatedly, so that he awaits impatiently the next such evening, when he will be able to refute his antagonists. In other words, for many, these evenings, these speeches, these debates are about as serious an occupation as are cards, chess, and so forth, which also undeniably divert a man and which play in the same manner on the same whims and passions. I think that very many deceived and confused themselves at this game in Petrashevsky's house, mistaking the game of something that was serious.

Our Moslem cousins are playing a game with us, but they play to win. I have to ask myself if I really enjoy typing or if I'm serious about doing something to stop Islam from destroying more innocent lives.

I reluctantly give up the floor for now, but I will return tomorrow with more to say on this topic. I might even picket and sign petitions. More likely I'll sit and stew and think up new ways to write the swame old thing.

Yes,muslims are fanatics,they are terrorists and murderers,but stupid they are not...
They know full well that at this precise moment in time,to continue to murder infidels in the name of islam,it is detrimental to their cause of universal domination....not just yet can they afford to do such things,especially in western countries,for they are not powerful enough,numerous enough,politically strong enough.
They also know too well,that they must wait patiently a few more years...until then,just behave,lie,and procreate....and yet they cannot wait,it is not in their nature to stay put,they have an organic desire to kill infidels,kill infidels,kill infidels.
They will not stay put,they will not wait patiently,they will not restraint themselves to just behave,lie and procreate....they will continue their attacks and that ,my friends will be at the root of their own demise.

Thanks profitsbeard for the list of mo's wives.

The work of the islamic 'warrior' would appear to hinder the mainstream muslim attack on us, which is from within, though financed from without.

Mainstream islam must consider that the chilling effect of something like Van Gough's murder, the effect of knowing that your life is at risk if you dare to publicly criticize islam, is of more benefit to their cause, world control, than the negative, and temporary, publicity is a detriment.

I use the word 'warrior' because, though terrorist idiot to us, they are to the mainstream islamic community, ' warriors'.., and they are used as such by the community.

Mainstream islam put a bounty on Rushdie's head, both a religious and financial bounty - telling its warriors where to strike for allah, for islam for mo.

These are the soldiers. How long do we have to wait before we can strike at the people sending the soldiers.

By strike i do not mean kill.
How about send some home, delegitimize islam,
no more immigrants, no muslim teachers from abroad etc.

Where are the peacemakers? Where are the children of God?

Posted by: Prophet2004 at December 5, 2004 12:35 PM

Kicking ass over there!!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat Amen

PS
Morgane
Just let one of those burgers in your attic and you will have to rewire the whole house and that aint pretty??

sonofwalker-

Neighbors who can be brought to an understanding of the rotten core of Islam ARE the point.

Agreed!

The rest (typing) is sharpening the polemical wit so that points may be quickly used to outfox the mendacious when they are pouring stolen honey over the bronze age bile of the Prophet's bitter suras.

As Nietzsche put it:

"Man would rather have Void for a purpose than be void of purpose."

Hang in there! This is a long struggle...

People - you have *got* to read this article. The false accusations, whining, demanding, and threat is so obvious in the text it is unbelievable that people can't see it.

"...growing immigrant Muslim population -- a community of 900,000 people who are increasingly vocal in demanding equality in Dutch society."

If ten percent of that group is radical, then they have 90,000 radical Islamists to content with.

"...young generation of Dutch Muslims is coming up. Dutch Muslims who say, "I want to be Dutch and Muslim here in Holland. Give us the freedom!"

Freedom? I thought you were just complaining about western lifestyle a minute ago.

"many fear a gulf is growing on this continent between Muslims and non-Muslims, a gulf characterized by mutual suspicion and hostility."

Here we go with the "mutual" game, "mutual suspicion and hostility." It is important to recognize that Islam is the initiator with regard to creating any suspicion and any hostility in a society of which there was none before. Using the word "mutual" in this text by the reporter is actually an early sign of dhimmitude.

"...am happy in my religion. But there are people who see it as a terrorist religion, a bad religion, a religion of hate." ... Abbos feels that the actions of a radical few make it easier for Europeans to demonize all Muslims."

Too bad this guy can't acknowledge the need to do something to stop the actions of radical Islam. In other words: "Adherents of militant Islam account for some 15-20 percent of the Muslim world, according to Daniel Pipes, an expert on the subject. This means that more than 150 million people are part of the problem. To make matters worse, they hide among the moderates. They don't wear uniforms and rarely identify themselves." http://www.meforum.org/article/168

"When a Muslim declares openly that he is a Muslim and is outspoken about that and wants to participate in politics and public life, out of his own beliefs, which is what everybody does, that Muslim is considered an extremist."

Here is a textbook case of an Islamist disguised as a "moderate." No, you're an extremist because of your unjustified hatred which you will not admit, but rather disguise with exaggerated misapplication of labels.

"Jahjah argues that the plight of Muslims in 21st-century Europe is no better than that of African Americans during the days of segregation."

More Islamic exaggerations which are in the end intended to further Islam.

"Mr. JAHJAH: I think it is even more oppressive. They are unemployed. They have no education -- the level of school dropouts is phenomenal. They have no housing. They have no practical political rights."

Whah whah whah boo hoo hoo.

"Any military target of a country occupying an Arab land is a fair target for an Arab."

Finally --- the Islamist can't hide his agenda from the reporter.

"Hirsi Ali's criticisms of Islam have earned her numerous death threats. "

Oh gee, Islam's not bad.

"GONZALEZ: As Islam's presence grows, what Western Europe is going through now should be familiar to the U.S., where dealing with newcomers has always been a challenge."

"newcomers" and Radical Islam are not the same by any stretch.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/week746/cover.html

Thanks Adela, for your comment! You have touched on the achilles heal of our Foe. The politically astute strategy of Islam in the West would be to wait until their numbers are large, such as 40 - 50% of the population. But no, they cannot wait. They must murder, intimidate, terrorize, demand, NOW. Such acts wake the sleeping giant, held down like Gulliver by the countless ropes of our pc media - the average men and women of the West. There already is a gulf growing between the ruling elite in Europe, who *outlaw* anti-immigration parties (in Belgium)and use the *appointed* -not elected- European Commission to foist Turkey on the men and women of Europe.

I am sickened by each act of Islamic murder in the West, but it brings us one step closer to awakening the average man and woman. There will come a point where even the most assiduous dhimmi journalists and elite will not be able to gloss over the murderous truth of Islam.