Jihad Watch director Robert Spencer at FrontPage this morning:
The latest outrage in Egypt has been, like all the others, almost universally ignored by the international media and human rights groups. Wafaa Constantine Messiha, wife of a Coptic priest in Egypt, was abducted by jihadist Muslims and forced to convert to Islam. The Mubarak regime has done nothing. This is no isolated incident: Wilfred Wong of the Jubilee Campaign, a Christian human rights group, notes that “the attempts to force Christians to convert to Islam in Egypt are on the increase and the methods are getting increasingly varied and well organized. Some of these forced conversions are carried out by Muslim individuals, with the help of their friends, while others are being conducted by well funded groups.”The situation has gotten so bad for Copts in Egypt that Pope Shenouda III, the leader of the Coptic Church, recently spoke out boldly about one common method of abduction and forced conversion: “I have received so many letters about what’s happening to the Christian girls who go to supermarket stores to shop. At the store they tell them that they have won and have to go upstairs to receive their award or prize. After that we don’t know what’s happening to these girls upstairs. There is a lot of talking going on about this matter, and I see that what’s happening will create a religious clash in the country. I’m urging the police to take a serious action against what’s happening.”
But the police did nothing, and the Copts are getting increasingly fed up. According to Emil Zaki of the U.S. Copts Association, “The situation in Egypt is exploding every minute for the last three days. Muslims are regularly attacking Copts, and they kidnapped the wife of a priest to force her to convert to Islam.” Three thousand demonstrators gathered last Sunday and Monday in four Egyptian provinces to protest the Mubarak regime’s inaction in the Wafaa Constantine Messiha case and its general indifference to the persecution of the Copts. Says Michael Meunier, president of the U.S. Copts Association: “Mubarak’s regime has not only ignored, but in many cases contributed to the alarming increase in anti-Coptic violence.”
Actions against Christians not only in Egypt, but all over the Middle East, are usually ascribed these days to anti-U.S. sentiment in the wake of the invasion of Iraq — when they’re reported at all. But such incidents are far older than the U.S. presence in Iraq; they have been going on for decades, even centuries. According to the Jubilee Campaign, in the late 1990s Coptic Christians uncovered evidence of houses in which “different teams of Muslims were working to pressure or force Christians to convert to Islam.” They found “a very organized and systematic approach by these Muslims to waylaying and forcing Egyptian Christians to convert to Islam.”
This is just one manifestation of the discrimination and harassment that Christians and other non-Muslims still face all over the Islamic world. Even though the laws of many Muslim-majority nations guarantee equality of rights and freedom of conscience, in practice Christians face discrimination and harassment — and even, on occasion, penalties derived from Sharia, Islamic law. Sometimes the secular law gives way to Sharia even if Sharia is not on the books. One notorious example was the case of Robert Hussein Qambar Ali, a Kuwaiti who converted from Islam to Christianity in the 1990s. He was arrested and tried for apostasy, even though the Kuwaiti Constitution guarantees the freedom of religion and says nothing about the traditional Islamic prohibition on conversion to another faith. One of Hussein’s prosecutors explained: “With grief I have to say that our criminal law does not include a penalty for apostasy. The fact is that the legislature, in our humble opinion, cannot enforce a penalty for apostasy any more or less than what our Allah and his messenger have decreed. The ones who will make the decision about his apostasy are: our Book, the Sunna, the agreement of the prophets and their legislation given by Allah.”
As Islamic radicalism increases, Muslims grow increasingly less tolerant toward their non-Muslim neighbors. But the world continues to take no notice, either of poor Wafaa Constantine Messiha or of the larger situation. The “white man’s burden” of colonial days has now been reversed, such that in the conceptual framework of the UN and the international media, only Westerners can do evil, and Christians cannot possibly play the role of victim. The sooner the world casts off these blinkered Chomskyite/Saidist fantasies, the better off we’ll all be.
The news of my Christian brothers and sisters around the world suffering persecution, and death for the glorious name of Christ is one that grieves and saddens me.
That grief and sadness though slowly becomes eclipsed with optimism.
Optimism that we, the Church are returning to authentic Christianity.
Insulated, western Christianity is waking from the dream world that being a Christian is normal or safe. More and more true Christianity is becoming what it was at the beggining; foolish and dangerous;
.."but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles.."
1 Cor. 1:23
.."in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.."
John 16:2
I say this, not glibbly from the comfort of my western home, but as one who has spent time "on the mission field" and has come face to face with persecution and the very real threat of possible loss of life.
I can whole heartidly testify that at that time you experience the strengthening and resolve that comes from God alone.
May God (Yahweh) strengthen and comfort the families of those who have lost their lives.
Regards everyone,
KC
"Aziz fee aynee Al-Rab mutu khidisee-a.."
Kitab Al-Mizamir, 116:15
(.."Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of His saints...." Psalm 116:15)
Where is the Vatican weighing in on anti-Christian attacks in Egypt against the Copts? Where is the currupt Koffi Annon and the UN? Where are all the anti-Racists who talk a good game when it comes to everyone else but keep remarkably silent when the issue involves Christian persecution and genocide?
Didn't NATO attack Christian in the Balkans only to empower the ethnic Albanian Muslims there to destroy over 80 churches and kill Christians while the EU of Weasels kissed Arab tush and watched?
Oh, and who cares about the non-Arabs in Sudan who are being EXTERMINATED in a genocide originating in the land of the prophet employing poison from Syria? They're only Christians, heck even the Holy Father, the Pope in Rome is hiding from Islam.
Where is the outrage Grey 'Lady', CNN, BBC Al-Reuter's, ACLU and the "Multi-CULTural crowd?
Are you not concerned about the plight of non-Muslims in the lands of intolerance and supremely NON-MULTICULTURAL thinking, were their CULTURE reigns supreme and they are not going to give anyone else a leg-up to destroying who they are as we in the West are colonized.
Note to the press, who do you think they will come after once they attain power, which you are helping them with great recless abandon? Do you think they will be tolerant to you you imbiciles?
Note to the State Department: REMOVE TAHT PROPAGANDA about Islam in America from your homepage. It is offensive and reckless. While you are at it , why not give the millions in aid to Egypt directly to the Saudis, that way you can hasten the Islamification process of Mosque and Islamic 'Çultural Centers' to showcase in your webpage YOU IDIOTS.
Do something someone,Helloooo...Helloooo....Please help the Copts in Egypt, please help this Christian woman being held by Egyptian Muslims.
Far too many have trouble wrapping their minds around current events within the context of the panorama of history. They cannot see the forest due to the tree against which they are standing eyeball to bark. In the 21st Century, a worldwide religious war being waged by islam, against all comers, sounds ludicrous in the extreme, if only those selfsame current events did not show it to be true.
"blinkered Chomskyite/Saidist fantasies"...of course, it is much worse than that. It seems the minds of tens of millions of well educated Europeans are awash in delusional opinions, false causes, and moral blindness (the IDF is a Nazi army; Israel is the greatest threat to world peace; suicide bombings are acceptable; the solution of world peace is a Palestinian State; Iraq and the world was better off with Saddam Hussein in power.).
It is odd how all these ideas fit together in an ever expanding weave of deluded thoughts and perceptions, causing greater and greater harm, until the deluded themselves become the victims of brutality whose causes they cannot see or refuse to admit. And in the process others are persecuted, suffer, and die (like the Christians in Egypt, Iraq, Indonesia, and the Jews, and the Bahais and Zorastorians in Iran, and the Hindus and Christians in Bangladesh etc., not to mention commuters in Spain, tourists in Egypt, children in Russia, and anonymous, already forgotten victims throughout the world) by a force that is mistaken for a victim or a gross aberration created by imaginary evil; so it was with National Socialism in the 1930s, and so it is today with Islam.
December 10, 2004
http://www.selvesandothers.org/article6532.html
Saudi Religious Police in Firing Line
Monday 9th June 2003, by John R. Bradley
EDDAH - They prowl the streets and shopping malls, hunting down women who don’t shroud themselves and Muslim men who ignore the call to prayer.
Saudi Arabia’s pervasive and powerful morality police have been a pillar of the ultra-conservative kingdom since its foundation.
Answerable only to King Fahd and separate from ordinary police, members of the "Authority for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice" patrol with police escorts, ensuring that their strict interpretation of Islamic social customs remain the norm among a youthful, Westernised population with wide access to the internet and satellite TV.
They check that women wear the abaya, the all-enveloping black cloak, that men and women together in public are related, that drugs and alcohol are not being traded and that Muslims do not observe "frivolous" customs such as Valentine’s Day.
Their website invites citizens to inform on those suspected of any manner of immoral behaviour.
The role of the morality police has come under unprecedented scrutiny in Saudi Arabia, which has been accused in the West of breeding Islamic radicalism which in turn creates more recruits for Saudi-born Osama bin Laden.
The influence of the morality police varies throughout Saudi Arabia and is strongest in the central Riyadh area, a bastion of the kingdom’s unique, strict Muslim creed known as "Wahhabism".
The austere brand of Islam, and its ramifications on all aspects of Saudi society, was thrust in the international spotlight after the September 11, 2001 attacks on U.S. cities.
Most of the men blamed for the attacks were Saudis linked to bin Laden’s al Qaeda network.
U.S. officials accused the Saudi education system of breeding "terrorists", but this appeared to have been largely ignored by the authorities until suspected al Qaeda militants struck in the heart of Riyadh on May 12 with devastating suicide attacks on expatriate housing compounds.
The bombings, the first indiscriminate attack against civilians in the kingdom, caused much soul-searching among ordinary Saudis and their rulers, who admitted publicly they have a serious problem.
Some Saudis say that the religious police — known as the "mutawaeen" or "enforcers" — are the core of this problem.
Saudis say the mutawaeen, with their trademark beards and loose-fitting red headscarves, are on the lookout for people using the latest mobile phones with cameras, lest they use them for flirting and to identify possible suitors.
REFORM HOPES
Last month, dozens of Saudis approached the mass circulation, reformist daily al-Watan newspaper with tales of being mistreated by the mutawaeen.
One woman from a remote southern town wrote to say that she had been beaten and held in solitary confinement for riding alone in the back of a taxi. A distraught man went to the paper’s Riyadh bureau saying he would commit suicide if they did not run his story of being detained incommunicado detention.
"The whole thing was started by the religious police when they arrested one of our reporters, insulted him and even cut his hair," said Jamal Khashoggi, a former editor who was sacked after a senior Islamic scholar called for a mass boycott of the paper as a result of the stories.
Other, more conservative papers criticised the mutawaeen last year after they prevented men from rescuing girls in a burning school because they were not relatives.
Fourteen girls died in the blaze and dozens were injured.
The rare public discussion about the mutawaeen comes amid much anticipation of reform in the kingdom, ruled largely by royal decree with an unelected parliament.
Businessmen and well-known Saudis in January petitioned the royal court asking for elections, more rights for women and equality among the country’s diverse social groups.
There has been growing domestic and foreign criticism that giving religious leaders a free hand to act, preach, and police society fosters the kind of fanaticism and intolerance which encourages young Saudi men to become suicide attackers.
Religious figures are concerned that pressure is mounting to crowd them out of public life.
A statement issued by prominent clerics has said "extremist writers" are using the Riyadh blasts to attack the religious establishment.
And in a recent interview Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul-Aziz bin Abdullah al-Sheikh, the kingdom’s top religious authority, rejected calls to dismantle the morality police.
Anthropologist Saad Sowayan said the Saudi royal family would never scrap the morality squad because it bolsters their own rule, which has involved decades of absolute power.
But he added that the authorities could use the mutawaeen to advance reforms, as King Faisal did in the 1970s to push education for women and the spread of television.
John R Bradley si the author of Saudi Exposed: Inside a Kingdom in Crisis (Palgrave-Macmillan, March 2005)
Sounds like the taliban with money??
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
Why are we not selling WAR Bonds??
Why are we selling missiles to Jordan???
Houses burned in Maryland were to be for blacks [mulsums] now they did it?? It will be called racism? Blue van? Has any one noticed a lot more old junkie vans more than usual?? They are coming up from Mexico??
New York is being bought out by Foreigners? Cause the Euro is High?
The Dollar Stronger to the Yen??
Doc in Fla. Was injecting fake botox and parilaze 4 people?? He had had his license revoked a year ago seams they were given bochilizm??
Iran see its self superior to Pakis??
Time to set up tent cities in the dessert to house the illegal aliens we catch!! Or we will have to soon start shooting anything that comes across at non legal ck points!! STOP THIS PC CRAP!!!
Freighter runs a ground in Alaska?? Lost a Helo in the Rescue?? China Sea seams another Freighter has a gaping hole? [REMEMBER THERE ARE Pirates there] That makes 3 tankers hit in the last mo??
Turns out that the Reservist who asked the Q? t Rumsfeld was asked to ask the Q? by a enbed reporter who was upset he would be in a truck that was what he felt not enough?? What about the Men of WW2 who had no armor? Want our guys to have the Best but why are the press setting our guys up?? Heard there is and Article about the press being pissed that to many of our guys are living!! They are pissed about the Doctors not being there for ?What??
What is up in Ohio? Shooing Rock & Rollers? What did this group sing?? The Guy looks Funny??
Canada rules Churches do not have to perform homosexual weddings!! Well aint that nice?
Gen Sutton shot in Turkey by a Turkish guard?? By accident??
Clp hassion being charged with desertion theft, Found some of his papers related to him in Fulljua?? REMEMBER his family is in Sault Lake City? Seams a Airliner coming in for a landing was hit with a laser [pilot now has eye problems] seams some other plans have been hit too?? They are using Lasers from Light showes of Rockers???
Just a couple of dots I remember seeing some mussi setting up as a rodie for the boss before a kerry rally?? Some thing to think about??
TIME TO REALLY GO TO WAR AND STOP THIS PC CRAP!!
President Bush Announces new Sectary of Energy and We will Make the Hidro Car a Reality!!
Opec says they will shot out put!! this is Good Americans Will not give things like boats or any comforts up so we will move away from oil when the price is high we will find another way!! This is war Can the Arabs eat black oil???
Next we have to do like Mexico does and if you are not an American you can not own land only by 49% so you would always have to have an American Partner and do what Monaco does and Just because you are born here does not make you a citizen your Parents have to be Citizens!!! This is War!!
Woman in NY sues school because the allow the star & crescent and the Menorah but not the Nativity Seen? I say Great! Great! Great!! And please some Jews get out and Support this Woman she is doing this to save this country so you NYC Jews don’t be stupid and cut your own throats!!
Fight Back do not let the mussis turn this country into a shit-hole!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom, and Courage to stay the course to Defeat ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat and give the World to Stand and Fight them Amen
Blatant double standards being applied.
This story from the washington times tells us of how christ is being banished from christmas.
http://insider.washingtontimes.com/articles/normal.php?StoryID=20041209-122555-6083r
The coming backlash will be huge and horrific. It may go too far in ringing back religion into public life but klet us not forget that it is this presence of religion in our lives and in our midst that gives our cultural DNA the immunity ot resist islam.
Personally, like this paki columnist says here:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_9-12-2004_pg3_2
"Bush is not a threat to any democratic dispensation anywhere in the world. If he has made the world a trifle unsafe for thugs and dictators, he is to be commended. In any case, he will be gone sooner than we think. But terrorism in the name of Islam, which now stalks the world, is an unprecedented development in terms of magnitude, intensity, scope and danger. I can definitely live with Bush as US president — or as the world’s sole policeman — for eight years or longer, but would hate to spend even eight days under the Taliban’s theocracy, Saddam’s dictatorship or a regime of Ayatollahs. I have a strong feeling that the vast majority of people everywhere feel the same way."
Indeed.
When the world press sets everyone BUT the Muslim community as dominant, racist and former-Crusaders, then everything they suffer is 'historically just'. (Mullah Lenin?)
So, how can they sympathize with the sufferings of the ones (Copts, Iraqi Christians, etc.) they think caused all of the problems in the world?
To paraphrase something said in a similar time:
"When they came for the handicapped, I wasn't handicapped, so I overlooked it. When they came fore the Jews, I wasn't a Jew, so I overlooked it. When they came for the Gypsies, I wasn't a Gypsy, so I overlooked, it. When they came for the trade unionists, I wasn't in a union, so I overlooked it. When they came for the political opposition, I wasn't in their camp, so I overlooked it. When they came for priests and nuns who objected to their new laws, I wasn't among their ranks, so I overlooked it. Now that they have come for me, there is no one left to object for me."
These "useful idiots" in the media are demonizing their own culture, thereby 'sowing the wind', and they will 'reap the whirlwhirl'.
THIS IS WAR AND THEY THE [MUSSIS] HAVE SAID SO WHEN ARE THE CHIRSTIANS GOING TO WAKE UP AND STAND AND FIGHT THE REAL ENEMY???
THEY WANT THE WHOLE WORLD TO BE A SHIT HOLE!!
DID WE STAND BY AND LET THE NAZIS WIN??
DID WE SIT BY AND LET THE COMMIS WIN??
WILL WE SIT BY AND LET THE MUSSIS WIN??
Subject: WWW III - While we snooze
: WW III
You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece.
Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, sit back, re-set the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again.
In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979... that alarm has been ringing for years.
U.S. Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola, Florida. Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.
AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!
That's what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed -AD) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been "Get Out of Bed!" In fact, I think the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.
It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran. This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world's most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency. The attack on this sovereign U. S. embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 23 years.
America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert.
The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America's inability to deal with terrorism.
America's military had been decimated and downsized/right sized since the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.
Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East. America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.
In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut. When it explodes, it kills 63 people. The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.
Then just six short months later a large truck heavily laden down with over 2500 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.
Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait, and America continues her slumber.
The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gates of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.
Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe. In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid.
Then in August a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rhein-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.
Fifty-nine days later a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.
The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, killing 259.
Clinton treated these terrorist acts as crimes; in fact we are still trying to bring these people to trial. These are acts of war.
The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder. The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America. In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.
The following month, February 1993, a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City. Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war?
The Snooze alarm is depressed again.
Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.
A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. It destroys the Khobar Towers, a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.
They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.
The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000, when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.
And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America. How wrong they are.
America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.
In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high officials in government over what they knew and what they didn't know. But if you've read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don't have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.
The President is right on when he says we are engaged in a war. I think we have been in a war for the past 23 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough.
America needs to "Get out of Bed" and act decisively now. America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.
After the attack on Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said "...it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant." This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.
Support Our Troops and support President Bush for having the courage, political or militarily, to address what so many who preceded him didn't have the backbone to do both Democrat and Republican. This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.
Please forward this to as many people as you can especially to the young people and all those who dozed off in history class and who seem so quick to protest such a necessary military action.
THERE ARE ONLY 2 SIDES EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR YOU ARE AGAINST US THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Sight,Wisdom, and Courage to destroy ALL islamic terrorist and ALL who SUPPORT them Open the Worlds Eyes and Give them Strength to Stand and Fight with the USA Amen
PS
soon the peterson shit will be off the air and maybe the press will do their job and tell the people about the enemy agaist them??
I humbly suggest that those who have the time contact Amnest International's Interfaith Network about this problem (and specific incidents).
E-mails to:
networks@aiusa.org
Please enter "Attention Interfaith Network" in the subject line.
You can send RS's article along with this link if you like:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4080777.stm
One of Amnesty's tactics is to shame governments into taking action on human rights issues. The same tactic can be used on Amnesty, HRW and the other HR NGOs who are not acting to defend the Copts. This problem should not be ignored - WAKE THEM UP!
"The coming backlash will be huge and horrific. It may go too far in ringing back religion into public life but klet us not forget that it is this presence of religion in our lives and in our midst that gives our cultural DNA the immunity ot resist islam."
Yes, fight fire with fire! Wars are started by moderates and finished by "extremists." And yes, Bush is a moderate believe it or not, still trying to play multi-culti nicey nice with Islam. I suppose it's a diplomatic necessity, but eventually we will need a leader who is not afraid to name the enemy.
The Catholic church should be in the best position to counter Islamism, but we lost a lot of moral credibility in the sex scandals. What horrible timing..the worst!
*** PETITION TO FREE COPTIC PRIEST'S WIFE ***
http://www.petitiononline.com/beleiver/petition.html
7900 signatures thus far.
Because of the fear inflicted by the Van Gogh
murder by a Muslim a local Radio host now avoids puting any blame for violence on Islamists,they also mock any callers that claim Christians are persecuted.
The PC stance is really sad since it shows Muslims that they can censor the Media through threats or murder for making any opposing opinions on Muhammed and Islam,now that's a great way to promote a faith claiming to be about tolerance and peace.
ala-sux
what you say is indeed alarming.
It means the muzzies have succeeded in muzzling our lamestream media. The internet is yound yet and will take time to establish itself as the leader in news and info dissemination.
Until then, we fight this long n lonely battle.
Mr. Spencer, the world won't notice the persecution of Christians. For the liberal secularists who dominate our media, the UN, and the professional cadre of our foreign policy community, religious liberty for Christians means that Christians have liberty to leave their religion. In this, they are just like the Muslims. The destruction of millennia-old Christian communities in the Middle East, like the destruction of newer ones in the Far East and Africa, is for them a sign of "progress".
Our task is to rebuild our Christian institutions (family, church, school, business, ect.) from the inside, witness using God's means of word and ethical example, and when we get big ebough, insist loudly on our freedoms as a "discrete and insular minority" (Borneo, Java, and New Guinea are no less islands than St. Kitts, Barbados, and Guernesey) and take those who discriminate against us to court. When it gets to the last-mentioned point, the liberals will once again discover the merits of small, unobtrusive government.
I´m very sad for the accusations against my catholic church and religion not to condemn the forced conversions in Egypt, well the catholics in Egypt are condemning and many times the Pope and cardinal bishops are condemning it, I don´t listen televangelists or born-again christians condemining the islamic acts aganist catholic churches in Iraq and other places like Indonesia, in addition I hear many times that many radical protestants compare the two branches of evil islam and catholicism, we, all christians( catholics, orthodox and protestants) have to be united against islam, converting muslim to the churches, but not for crying more, we are harder, the important is into the faith, greetings
And in addition respect the people to say that only catholics are in sex-scandals, please read this
http://www.reformation.com/
Thanks
Before going overboard on the "Church" being blamed for the sexual abuse of children in some parts of the USA,lets not lose sight of the fact that the vast majority of abuse was by homosexual-pedophiles.
These were men that had a problem long before they entered a Church or desired to serve God,most pedophiles look for the easist way to access children. In Canada we're seeing Hockey Coaches and School Teachers being arrested and Doctor's from foreign Countries that do little to
condemn this behaviour are now growing in numbers
for those type of sexual crimes.
The real paradoxical-irony in Canada is that while a noted Toronto City Councillor professes to be a advocte for the protection or Childrens Right,the same Councillor and their Democratic Leader husband support the Gay-parade by joining in it even though the Police provide security and overlook the overt nudity by men shaking their penis in front of children that at with their "Liberal-thinking" parent.
I have pictures from a local paper that show the Politicians smiling for the camera while the picture beside them has naked men and topless females flaunting their nudity near the barricades where the children are. The APA is trying to have pedophilia recognized as a sexual-preference that's protected under the Constitution and in Canada the Gay-Lobby opposes the raising of the age of conscent from 14 to 18
which shows that Nambla must have a foothold in Canada and wants access to minors for pedophiliacs.
The demand for a true separation of religion and State will only harm the Gay-agenda,once science identifies the Gay-gene and gender-abortion becomes allowed the next setback will be when "Thou shalt not kill" moral is removed and murder has no opposing foundation in a Court
since the Judge can't use Biblical morals to
define the value of a life.
Who would want to be a Politician or Lawyer
when killing is no longer seen as a sin,stealing will be Ok since Property-rights are from Biblical Morals on human rights to have possesion.
The Liberals will rue the day they assumed all people are good and we don't need laws or even the Police since they feel the root cause to violence is agressors and guns. Lets see how fast the crime goes down when the Police lose their guns and then are slowly dismantled so they don't
incite crime and violence.
Franze, Ala-sux, thanks for some good posts. I'm not Roman Catholic, but having served as a church elder, I know that it is important to watch out for sin on a wide range of fronts.
Ala-sux--Islam is another religion that denies original sin.
Kepha1, thanks, I think that the chirstian churches have a lot of work in the world converting muslims, and in some places these has been a sucessful like Nigeria, Uganda, kirziguistan, Algeria,and other places and of course in Europe, the problem is here the people don´t believe in nothing and I repeat the barbarians in the middles ages aren´t better than the muslims but the costumes changed thanks for christianize, we have to be united, greetings
Kepha1, thanks, I think that the chirstian churches have a lot of work in the world converting muslims, and in some places these has been a sucessful like Nigeria, Uganda, kirziguistan, Algeria,and other places and of course in Europe, the problem is here the people don´t believe in nothing and I repeat the barbarians in the middles ages aren´t better than the muslims but the costumes changed thanks for christianize, we have to be united, greetings
Attention World:
It cannot be a mere conicidence that anti-Americanism is sweeping the world at the same time that anti-Christianism is also sweeping the world.
The citizens of the world who assume there is no relationship between the two are doing so at their peril.
This display of barbarism is clearly part of a broader, global, and pseudo-religious agenda, probably the work of Islamists led, we suspect, by the Muslim Brotherhood. The perpetrators of this widespread persecution will only become further emboldened by attempts at appeasement or developed nations that 'look the other way.'
Kepha1:
Thanks for respecting my views as an opinion based on my version of reality from lifes experiences.
For a long time I blamed God for things done by man,since accepting Christ as my Lord and Saviour
I focused on cleaning up my life since free-will
made me responsible for bad choices and not dumped on God as a curse or punishment for offending him.
I do have a issue with Christians that condemn me for believing in capital punishment,they profess to know the New Testament but my version
declares Jesus and the Son of God and Messiah blessed with the Holy spirit and healing in his wings. Here's how I support the death penalty,Jesus didn't come to bring Justice on Earth but eternal life in paradise for all who believed no matter the social status,he also said that "You'll always have the poor" and knew the class struggle was like "Mixing the water with oil". He spoke in parables so those with eyes would see and those with ears would hear,while Jesus had the power to end suffering on Earth and bring justice to everyone he accepted death as punishment for sins on Earth in the spiritual and physical realm.
Many will suffer the double-death in the end times and if capital punishment was ended by the authority of Christ then he wouldn't have gone to the cross and fulfilled the prophecys in the Torah and Bible that used capital punishment to slaughter the sacrificial lamb of mans sins to be the bridge to the Father.
How could any Christian not see that if Jesus abolished crucifixions he never would have gone to the cross and be the messiah at the core of they're own tenets.
A baby can't be put back in the womb once delivered into the world and separated from the mother,nor can Christians put Jesus back on the cross and revive him to separate him from the Father in heaven and go back in the womb of Mary. I believe that God has the power to come to Earth as a man and resurect the dead at will,but no man has a pure heart and foregiveness is the key,not the struggle to avoid mistakes and live in fear of God like Islam teaches.
I find it really sad that Muslims denounce the sighting of Jesus after his burial,this tells me that God doesn't have the power and couldn't have made the Universe or man. Muhammed seems to be at the root of Islam and it was God that was hijacked for Islam and not the Islamists that now are the scapegoats for Muslims that are blind to the truth. Muslim clerics claim the Muhammed did exactly what they claimed God couldn't do for Jesus,they say that Muhammed was taken up to paradise from his grave by the all powerful and merciful Allah.
You can be a little pregnant,either they accept God could have taken Christ to paradise or they don't accept that Muhammed was taken up too. Islam starts by assuming you caused your sins and deserve Earthly punishment through Sharia by the Holy-blessed Imam's that never sinned,Jesus accepted us as we were and mended our hearts or for the good people in life he gave eternal life with him and the Father.
I know I was off topic for a bit but this site
is about exposing the "True" Islam and showing the foundations for my views is far better than a moronic quip expressing anger or ignorance.
NO CRUCIFIXION - KNOW DEATH