Turkey will be Islamic "Trojan horse" in Europe: Kadhafi

From AFP, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm, who remarks cogently, "Not that we believe anything Qaddafi says."

ROME, Dec 16 (AFP) - Turkey will be an Islamic "Trojan horse" inside the European Union if it is allowed to join the bloc, to the advantage of Al-Qaeda terror chief Osama bin Laden and other extremists, Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi said in an interview with Italian radio reported Thursday.

"The Islamic world, including Islamic extremists up to bin Laden, is rejoicing at Turkey's entry. It is their Trojan horse," Kadhafi was quoted as saying by the daily La Repubblica in extracts from the RAI interview published before its broadcast.

Kadhafi said he had not opposed Turkey's EU membership but warned of its possible consequences.

"I say only that there will be consequences from the entry of this Trojan horse," he added, without elaborating.

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Maybe the EU should admit Lybia instead. Everyone who understands the basics of Islam knows what is at stake here. We have a facist movement seeking world conquest. Their inspiration is not Marx, Hitler or Stalin, but Mohammad.

Only opposition and a restrictionist view of immigration now will prevent the necessary use of arms against this spreading worldwide menace later. Our actions now will ultimatley determine the future of the world and it does not look good for the Judeo-Christian West.

By that I mean, the eventual outcome of putrid weakness, self loathing and decadence and appeasement in the face of a motivated and hungry foe can ONLY resultin 2 possible outcomes:

A) Cultural conquest and repeal of human rights on a global scale by the triumph of global Islam,

OR

2) Resistance which obviously includes large scale warfare and destruction to save our civilization and way of life which could take the form of a combination civil war and Israel-like intifida scenario.

But, why should I judge, just keep the immigration spigot from Third World countries turn on and pour Ted Kennedy another drink.

Libya...

If this doesn't give the EU pause, I don't know what will.

Truth from Tripolitania!

This just in. Muammar Khadafy, the man whose Homeric epithet is "mercurial," and who not infrequently, in his interviews, will offer up truth and fantasy in equal parts, has told a hom e truth abroad. Or rather, two. In the first place, he said that there is "not room for two viable states" between the Jordan and the Mediterranean (we'll ignore his "Israstine" solution, which is simply a prescription for the final subjugation of the Jews to the overbreeding and overbearing "Palestinian" Arabs).

But it is his second truth, accidentally spilled, that needs to be focused on: that the admission of Turkey to the E.U. is devoutly wished for even by the Arabs who hate the Turks, because they regard it, rightly, as a major step in the islamization of Europe, or put another way, the takeover, by adherents of the belief-system of Islam, of the land mass which gave rise to, and possesses still all the cultural treasures of, Western civilization.

Qaddafy is "mercurial" just as much as Odysseus is "wily" or Athena "grey-eyed" or the dawn "rosy-fingered." Now he is the great leader of the Arabs of the Maghreb, a new Abd el-Kader. And now he is the Great Libyan Leader of His Grateful Libyan People, with his Little Green Book, and his unorthodox view of Islam, and all the rest of the trappings of perfection and greatness, primitive third-world style. Now he is the clever weapons man, outsmarting the West, putting his chemical weapons plant deep underground, and covering up his frantic but futile nuclear project with that supposed Great Man-Made River Project. And now he is the leader of the Arabs, the only honest man among them, and the bane -- and even the would-be assassinator of -- the corrupt members of the House of Al-Saud. And now he is no longer the Great Leader of the Arabs (wasn't that Saddam Hussein's role, and before him, that of Nasser? Who is the latest Great Leader? Hard to keep up with them, they rise and fall so fast), because he, Muammar Khaddafy, is fed up with the people he calls "the Arabs," and has become -- an African, the Great Leader of Africa (including the Africa that provided such a nice steady supply of black slaves for Muslim Arabs, and still does, and who except an occasional reporter for Corriere della Sera is going to report on the persecution and murder of black immigrants in Libya, or even remember when, during the anti-African riots a decade ago, the hanging of a black Chadian diplomat on the street in Tripoli? I mean, who can remember that sort of thing?). Libya is in Africa, Khaddafy runs Libya, so of course Khaddafy now has a message, and a meaning, for all of Africa.,

Great Leader of Libya, Great Leader of the Arabs, Great Leader of the Africans (take your pick). But then why, when we look at him, does only Ozymandias come to mind?

But remember that Khaddafy does, occasionally, drop into the truth. And among the nonsense and silliness of his words to that Italian interviewer (Khaddafy would, on the whole, rather be in Philadelphia -- I mean, Perugia -- instead of in Tripoli or anywhere where there ae Muslims and Arabs. In fact, not only Perugia, but even the smallest Italian hill town contains more culture, more humane behavior, more places of interest, more humor, more wit, than all of Libya or indded, than all of the Maghreb. And that is because of what a certain belief-system does to people.

Turkey's future entry into the E.U. (which will NOT happen) is, Khaddafy points out, seen as a stalking-horse, or Trojan horse, or horse of a different color (green), and that entry isearnestly desired by other Muslims, even by Arabs who do not like the Turks. For those Arabs, and other Muslims, see Turksih entry into the E.U. as both a way to facilitate the illegal entry of other Muslims through Turkey (which of course it would be), but more importantly as a way to push the E.U. completely into the arms of Islam. For as 70 or by then, 80 million Turks join the E.U., Turkey will be the most populous country in the E.U., and five or ten million of those Turks, in a country with huge unemployment, the highest in that E.U., will fan out across Europe, for work or for study, they will build mosques. They will build madrasas. They will become more, not less, fervent in their Islam -- just as the Turks in Germany have. For in their physical baggage will be, not the works of Ataturk, but the Qur'an. And as they meet, as inevitably they must, as all people do, with difficulties, as they feel, as all immigrtants must, a certain homesickness and longing, they will turn for comfort to Islam, to its teachings, to its constant message that You, Believers, Are the Best, and You, Believers, Deserve to Dominate and Not to Be Dominated. What a wonderful message, how soothing, how uplifting, and what a comfort in days of despair or loneliness or any kind of personal or professional desarroi or disappointment.

And those Turks will not help to "unite" Europe, but rather, will keep the peoples of Central and Eastern Europe, who deserve a chance to improve their own lot after four decades of rule by ideological puppets and agents of the Soviet Union. For instead of hiring Bulgarians and Hungarians and Rumanians, some of whom might wish to start as workers in France or Italy, both to be trained, or to acquire know--how that can be used at home, or simply to earn money som of which would undoubtedly be remitted home, all of that work will be taken -- in this new market that is built not with any regard for Europe as a civilization, as a matter of culture, of thought, of art and science, but purely as a place where homo economicus rules. What is the E.U. but the most extreme example of a Midwestern Chamber of Commerce, where business and boosterism for business are everything, and nothing else matters.

And as those Turks take the low-paying jobs (but what is the real price of those workers, what is the price that is not internalized or shown in their wages?), and the long-suffering peoples of Easstern and Central Europe cannot find work in the west, even though it is they who would without difficulty integrate, for in their mental baggage they bring no belief-system, as the Turks do, and will even more to the Lands of the Infidels, a belief-system that that only lead, inevitably, to a way of life for the the indigenous Infidels that is much more unpleasant, expensive, and physically dangerous, and which will lead -- has already led -- to some Infidels simply packing up for the U.S., Canada, Australia. All of which, of course, are also, simultaneously, under assault from Islam without and within.

Perhaps the last act of Khaddafy might be, as suggested afew days ago, to get dreams of grandeur that paint him as the great "Berber leader" of North Africa, so that he might use Libyan money to re-berberize those who over the centuries have come tobelieve that they are Arabs when in fact they are Arabic-speaking Berbers. If "the Arabs" can be reduced to their essential presence in the peninsula, that can only help in the containment of Islam. Khaddafy's rhetoric over the years suggests he has a problem with the whole idea of "the Arabs." They, in turn, have anathematized him. Imagine all those "Arab" Algerians or "Arab" Moroccans realizing, perhaps through the irrefutable work on Berber and Arab DNA in North Africa (see the work of G. Semana and other French investigators in Rennes on the genetics of the Berbers and Arabs in Tunisia)-- that they are "proud Berbers," and starting to speak Tamazight, and meeting with their friends and reading Kateb Yacine denouncing Arab imperialism, and all the rest. There could even be secret Berber meetings, in Paris, Marseille, and Algeria itself, in the Kabylia.

And this campaign for Berberia would provide Khaddafy's son, by the way, with a much-desired opportunity to get involved with Italian cinema as he already has with Italian soccer teams. He could produce a movie all about the re-awakening of Berber consciousness in North Africa, financed by Libya. Shot -- well, in Morocco, or if things get too hot, in Arizona.

Now, as I see it, the main problem we have is what to call that movie about the Great Berber Uprising that will follow upon the Great Awakening of Berber Consciousness, financed in part by the Great Self-Appointed Leader of the Berbers, Muammar Khaddafy?

So here's my suggestion, especially fitting because Khaddafy fils is no doubt a big Fellini fan.

What about: Notti di Kabylia?

Yes i heard this, several time ago, it´s good

Too much honesty for a guy like Ghaddafi! What could motivate him to say that?

Maybe it's a double bluff. He assumes that the west won't believe him, and will do the opposite that he says we should.

What’s PC Today? – PC Entertainment

In a shrinking world and with increasingly diverse views – to be Politically Correct is our way of getting along. The guy next to you might be a good person but have views which are slightly different. PC is a compromise, it is something that we do voluntarily and should continue to do.

But there is a new PC - one that is not voluntary – one that says - use this or die. Today, to speak out against Islam is to risk one’s life. This is not the PC that most of us had in mind. As the film producer Van Gogh found to his peril – that to expose the brutality which many Muslim women endure in order to be submissive to their husbands – is to die. But is this a new threat? Or is it a sign of the things to come – remember Salman Rushdie?

The new PC comes with a threat to one’s safety – first it seeks to limit speech – next possibly choice. It’s seen as the new Fascism – and has been dubbed Islamofascism. It comes with the knowledge – that to speak out against Islamic practices – is to risk loosing one’s life. This while – Islamic leaders insist that their religion is one of ‘Peace’.

This new PC is in no way - the one we use to respect the other guy – and for this reason it shouldn’t be called PC at all; but rather AC – Authoritarian Correctness or ARC – Authoritarian Religious Correctness – because we use it where we fear for our lives.

When we hold political elections – we criticize the other guy – big time. The church and its religious content can also be analyzed – as well as criticized. But to criticize Islam – according to Cat Stevens / now Yusuf Islam – that person should be killed. Why should we – be threatened by the religious beliefs – of groups which have primarily come to the West as refugees and/or as economic migrants? Who will define our thinking – and should it be defined violent means?

Many thanks to Hugh

My argument is in how we have over-extended the use of PC. While we bend over backwards to try to please these people - they are very clearly moving to take over - and they have openly stated their intentions - and this is not just coming for the radical few.

My fear is that once they are successful in their 'take over' or conversion - our greatest concerns will be - if we should spell the word camel with one [m] or two.

Again Hugh

Does anyone realize that the whole of North Africa and Spain was taken over by Syrians, after the Byzantines took over the region?

And that it was the Syrians who - forced everyone to speak Arabic - to spite the former Byzantium rule. They also invented the 5 Pillars of Islam.

These people in North Africa are indeed Berber - see CIA fact book - who speak a form of Arabic – it is not even proper Arabic.

Most don't even know their own history {they are taught so much religion} - that the whole North Africa was a part of the Roman Empire - and before they were taken over by the Syrian Muslims - many were Christians.

Syrians and Islam

Why did the Syrians take up Islam so easily – the Syrians were the Phoenicians - of old and one of their favorite Gods or Goddesses was Allah’s daughter Allat [Allatu]. These seafarers spread Temples honoring Allat – Allah’s daughter - all over – Southern Europe and Sardinia; including Spain, Greece and Rome.

Allat had many names – Allatum – Latona in Rome – Leto in Greece - who became mother of Apollo – yeah. The ‘One True God’ has a history.

Hajj

Anybody could bring their Gods to Mecca to be worshiped at the Ka’aba or the black stone that everyone bows down in front of in Mecca. And the process of coming to Mecca to worship your personal God was called the Hajj. [Ency Britannica 22 / pg 105 top right and bottom left.]

The thing that separated Muhammad’s family out – was that they had the special responsibility as the keepers of the Kaaba [see Quraish - Webster’s Dic.]

Allah had two other daughters besides Allat – who were also worshiped there. The daughters were called the Trinity or the three Desert Goddesses.