Their sensibilities cannot be offended in Saudi Arabia, and their sensibilities cannot be offended in Europe, as we have documented here with several recent stories. So in both Christmas is increasingly furtive. From AP, with thanks to EPG:
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- It's beginning to look a little bit like Christmas in Saudi Arabia, where Islam is the only accepted religion and non-Muslim religious activities are banned in public.Turkeys lie in deep freezers under shelves loaded with pumpkin pie spices, cranberry sauce, stuffing mix and tinned sweet potatoes. Yule log-shaped cakes sit in patisserie cases; a couple of bare, plastic Christmas trees stand in a boutique window; and gift wraps and glittering red, green, silver and gold candles appear in stores.
Restaurants serve "seasonal" beverages and dishes, with invitations to "seasonal" dinners recommending "holiday dress."
There is nothing that explicitly says it is Christmas, but there is enough of a festive whiff in the air for expatriate shoppers determined to have something resembling a holiday at home.
The little Christmas things count in a country accused by the U.S. State Department of "particularly severe violations" of religious freedom. This year, it placed the kingdom for the first time on a list of countries that could be subject to U.S. sanctions because of religious intolerance.Also, terror attacks and assassinations targeting Westerners since last year have dampened private celebrations, with many people not holding large bazaars or going to markets downtown to shop for gifts.
Saudi Arabia has stated publicly that its policy is to protect the right of non-Muslims to worship privately. However, Defense Minister Prince Sulta also stressed that the kingdom would never allow churches to be built....
The State Department said in 1993 that "non-Muslim worshippers risked arrest, lashing and deportation for engaging in overt religious activity that attracts official attention."...
But not only the government shuns religious symbols. Medical workers say some Saudi patients refuse to take some medications because they mistake the cross-like indentation in tablets for religious crosses.
The bans go beyond Christian symbols. Small statues of Buddha are confiscated at airports, and Buddha pictures on a popular CD have been colored over. Ironically, a CD of Gregorian chants sitting next to it was left untouched.
During the Christmas season, embassies hold staff parties where Santa Claus may appear, with some allowing religious services. The State Department report said non-Muslim clergy were not allowed to enter the country to conduct religious services, although some come "under other auspices."
Religious police agents become very active in the days leading up to Christian and Western celebrations. A few weeks ago, a toy store owner was detained for promoting witchcraft because he carried such Halloween decorations as scary masks and witches' hats.
That is why Christmas cards are sold under the counter and only in very few stores. Some florists discreetly sell Christmas trees, mostly artificial ones, and poinsettias. One florist told customers that several dozen fresh trees from Holland were intercepted at the airport, hacked to pieces and then sent back to Holland.
Some expatriates coming from Bahrain, where Christmas is observed openly, have had Christmas decorations confiscated by customs officials.
But not everyone is caught. An American woman at a "holiday supper" brightened up as she recounted how she brought in Christmas ornaments from London for a tree she borrowed from an American neighbor.
The woman declined to be identified because she said the topic may hurt Saudi sensibilities.
Sipping Saudi champagne, a concoction of fizzy water and apple juice, the woman said Christmas used to have its own traditions in Saudi Arabia. American women would make their own Christmas ornaments and shop for old jewelry pieces in the souq - a venue Westerners do not consider safe anymore - and dress them up with ribbons.
They also would boil a mix of powdered cinnamon and water that, when hardened, would be cut into the shapes of bells, camels and dallahs - Saudi coffee pots with curved beaks - and then hung on the tree.
"These days, we celebrate very quietly. You can't be open about it," she said.
Yes. They have the same problem in Italy.
See this also, from Anthony Browne in The Australian (thanks to JE): "Unholy war on Christmas."
Useful idiots, the Apologists and the Left, have done the job for them here, so that no one can point the fingers at Muslims...yet!
However, there are sufficient other examples of Muslim insensitivity here in the United States. Here are only some: blaring bullhorns five times a day to call for prayer; requiring advertisers to move billboards; requiring merchants to eliminate or move pork products; requiring schools to add prayer rooms, apparatus to wash feet, etc. for accommodating daily prayer. (I would imagine that academic schedules would also have to change; requiring schools to separate male and female students; requiring hospitals to change policies, personnel, and equipment to accommodate them; and requiring schools and other institutions to remove pork products from the menu and/or adapt menus to accommodate them.
If there was reciprocity in their desire to accommodate or desire to spare the feelings of other religious or ethnic groups, Americans and other Westerners wouldn't feel angry and put on -- but there is no attempt to accommodate others, not attempt to soothe the feelings of others. No, all we get is disdain and disgust, arrogance and high-handedness!
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Do the muslims in the US really have the nerve to broadcast their prayer calls five times a day? I'm shocked and surprised. In Holland they haven't yet dared although that may only be a question of time.... The day they feel emboldened enough to spew that awful cacophony from their megaphones will be a black day indeed.
In contrast to the context of the present thread I'm fully in favour of curtailing religious freedom that is the "freedom" that allows muslims to proselytise in the west, build mosques, demand 'respect' etc. etc. etc. When are people going to wake up and see that form of freedom makes people like me feel less and less 'free'?
About ten years ago some British nurses were arrested for singing Christmas carols, behind closed doors, in their living quarters. They were held for a while, then expelled. That they did no receive harsher punishment was the result of British diplomatic intervention.
The recent case of Brian O'Connor, the Indian convert to Christianity who was seized and tortured by the Saudi police -- for being a Christian, accused of trying to convert others -- is well known.
In the late 1990s, a wealthy Kuwaiti converted to Christianity. First his entire business was taken away from him. Then his wife, and then his children. He was left with nothing. And then he was sentenced to death. There was an outcry in Britain (it hardly got any notice elsewhere). In the end, he was not executed.
I recall this story well because a very rich Kuwaiti contractor, who had been voluble on the subject of the "real Islam" which, he said, was aggressive and violent -- he enjoyed being a truth-teller -- as long as I feigned ignorance of Islam and pretended to be amused, changed tack completely when I raised the subject of the treatment of the Kuwaiti convert. Now, sensing that I was not only listening to him, but joining in his criticism of Islam, he began to deny that the Kuwaiti convert story was true, that I didn't understand all the details, etc. A sudden transformation, and similar experiences since suggest that unless someone goes all the way, and makes a clean break with Islam, there is some kind of inability to recognize, or allow Infidels to recognize, the full truth. The urge to defend, to protect, the Faith kicks in. Infidels may be allowed to learn some things, but they must not volunteer criticism -- that would be to accord them too much freedom.
I thought Hooper from CAIR said Jesus was a revered prophet in the Quran,does he now believe
that the Saudis a blasphemous to Islam and the Quran.
Someone needs to build a Holy-site to honoe the Prophet Jesus and see if Islam and the Quran really do revere Christ,the Saudis can go to their Mosques or visit a temple to honor Jesus
like the Christian would be doing there with them.
Surely the Saidis wouldn't deny a building permit for a site that will honor Allah by respecting one of his Prophets,say it isn't so folks,say it isn't so.
KNOW ISLAM - NO PEACE
Our residential compound is having its Christmas Party today (24th). And a lot of us are having our Christmas dinner today because, for some of us, tomorrow is just another work day.
If we know everybody what is Saudi Arabia, why don´t break relations with them, they´re rubbish and fanatics, they don´t deserve our attention and support, I invite all the non-muslims in Saudi Arabia leave it because they don´t deserve our help