From the Fatwa Department: "the Kuffaar can never be trusted"

Shia-Sunni violence in Pakistan -
"Sectarian Unrest Kills 11: GILGIT, Jan 08: At least 11 people were killed in Gilgit today as violence erupted after an attack on a minority Shi'ite Muslim leader, official and hospital sources said. The authorities imposed a curfew in Gilgit, the main town and called out the army to quell the violence after enraged Shi'ite Muslims went on a rampage following the attack on their leader Ziauddin Moosavi. Moosavi was traveling in his car to a mosque in the center of Gilgit, when unidentified gunmen opened fire, critically injuring him and his three guards. Two of the guards later died. Jamil Ahmed, home secretary of the Northern Areas, told Reuters that nine people died in the violence that broke out after the attack. He said an angry mob set a house of an official of the forest department on fire, killing him and six others. A senior official of the local health department was also killed in the attack. Witnesses said the angry mobs also set government buildings and cars on fire. "People are very terrified," a resident told Reuters by telephone. No one claimed responsibility for the attack on Moosavi but police suspected it was a sectarian incident. (Reuters) (Posted @ 21:10 PST) "

I wonder if Shia-Sunni violence will subside after
Iraqi elections or increase. Is it about the
fourth caliph of Baghdad or domination of the Islamic world (Iran vs Saudi Arabia) ? I hope
rationality prevails over fanaticism.

"But shouldnt the west also recieve praise because its always them who intervenve when muslims r being tortured,they stopped Milosovic kiling muslims and sent their own troops to the country,they r usually the first to send aid when theres a flood,they r also intervening in Isreal and condeming them killing Muslims ,so should we appreciate their efforts or not?"

To any Serb reading this site, I am really very sorry and ashamed for what Germany did as a Nato ally from 1990 until now.

Milosovic was a tyrant but he was the only one in Europe who tried to protect Orthodox Christianity and the old Serbian heritage on the old and new battle field of Kosovo, the so- called "Field of the black bird", every German should remember 1389 and 1941.

Peter Handke was right!

Well. I'm glad the Imam cleared that up. He is a big man about Islam Town, a head honcho, big cheeze ya know. The muslims are relying on guys like this to guide them.

No wonder there's so much trouble. This is just blind hatred. The only way to keep a person like this from hating the West is to stop him from breathing. Hating is so natural for these vermin.

If god is as they claim he is, then (even if I don't know if he exists or not) I don't want anything to do with him. I think they've gotten the words Satan and God mixed up.

Somebody smack that Imam in the back of the head. Bad Imam.....bad!!

Dana

No surprise. They hate us "for our unbelief," but will take what we have to give and later throw it back into our face. Individual Muslims are presently grateful, but jihadists have moved in "to enforce Sha'ria" and to be there "just in case," telegraphing their intent to strike at the first opportune moment. Clerics such as this one will again fill heads with anti-Americanism, erasing the perception of good, i.e., as we did all of this "out of self-interest."

Our efforts should be done because it's the right thing to do. However, no one should be naÏve as to believe that Muslims will be allowed by clerics to be grateful as that would diminish both their hold and the power of Allah if "Kuffars" are seen as just and humane.

AL QUAEDA MANUAL [in their own words]
'ISLAMIC GOVERNMENTS HAVE NEVER AND WILL NEVER BE ESTABLISHED THROUGH PEACEFUL SOLUTIONS AND COOPERATIVE COUNCILS.THEY ARE ESTABLISHED,AS THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN BY PEN AND GUN,BY WORD AND BULLET,BY TONGUE AND TEETH.'
Mufti Desai is a PERFECT example of this!

That is one of the funniest sites on the net! Everything a muslim needs to know, from what day you can cut your fingernails to how to wipe your butt. Check it out for a good laugh:

www.ask-imam.com

From the Go to Hell Department:

Mufti Desai can drop dead.

We're onto you you vile, deceptive lying, back-stabbing, manipualtive Islamist sleezoid and we know you are hiding behing the cloak of a religion that hides (not very well at that) it's ideology of world conquest like a cheap creep.

Say anything at all about the ROP (tm) and the whole ummah starts up demanding their rights. What a shameless, pathetic, empty existence it must be living a lie, just waiting for the moment to dishonor yourselves by betraying people who offer you trust and expect nothing in return. Loyality is obviously an alien concept to the Mufti and his hordes.

Even Klingons in Star Track valued HONOR and LOYALITY above all else.

Shame on you.

Star Trek

Yes Just_Linda,

That is a funny site. It makes you realize just how much control these religious turds have over their muslim slaves.

Incredible to believe that we may have been like this centuries ago ourselves. Thank god for evolution (at least on our part).

Dana

The Holy Qur’an says

Legalizing deceit
"God will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth God make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful." Surah 5:89

Legalizing perjury
"God will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing." Surah 2:225

In simple the Kuffaar can never be trusted for any possible good they do.
They have their own interest at heart.
Was salaam
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

And WE are the ones that cant be trusted? It sounds like he is really describing Moslems and the ways of their Allah.
How can the west do business with people who cant or wont keep their word?
In the business world you are only as good as your word, where does that leave the always lying Moslems?

No amount of money from the west and no amount of humanitarian help will stop muslims from hating us,infidels.
Giving them money or any kind of help is not the answer.
The money that our generous people is donating will be used to increase the level of hatred and to intensify their jihad.

No money should be given to fund Muslims in their desire to kill us! They have consistently shown even more hatred towards Infidels after accepting our charity which sticks in their Muslim gullets.
Why are the majority of Muslim countries poor, backward, violent, illiterate and over populated??
BECAUSE THEY SLAVISHLY FOLLOW THEIR SEVENTH CENTURY DEATH CULT. Huge tracts of fertile land in oil and gas rich regions of Africa remain devastated
after killing and the corruption of 'Islamic Governments Rule of Sharia.' Quote from Jihadwatcher Ala Sux :'NO ISLAM,KNOW PEACE!!

Here's more advice from Mufti Desai concerning charity from the same website:

Q: With regards to Zakat, is it acceptable to give one's Zakat to a non-Islamic organisation that has outlets in Islamic Countries and spends it on Muslims who are poor or sick?

A: Getting a non-Muslim organisation, of the type you described, to distribute your Zakaat would not be advisable for a number of reasons:

1.They are unaware of the laws of zakaat and are very likely to flout them.
2. While they might give it to lepers, every leper is not necessarily deserving of zakaat.
3. They are non-Muslims as well in Bangladesh, thus it is very likely that this will be spent on them as well, as it would be very difficult for the organisation to adhere strictly to the desire of every donor.
4. In zakaat it is necessary for the money to be handed over to the recipient in cash or kind (i.e. tamleek is necessary), while the majority of these organisations don't operate in this manner, rather they open up hospitals, provide medical services etc. This is an incorrect manner of distributing the zakaat.
5. Many of these organisations try to beguile Muslims and lure them away
from Islam to Christianity by offering them medical and other services and showing them how generous Christians are. Thus by having such an
organisation distribute your zakaat, you would be unwittingly aiding in making Muslims murtad renegade.

Thus we would advise you to give the money personally to a deserving Muslim or have it distributed by a reliable Islamic organisation.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Here is the link address:

http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=11764

So please note from point 5: you must not donate any charity to any Muslim countries, lest those who receive your aid turn to apostacy after receiving it. And we all know what happens to apostates in Muslim countries, don't we?

We’ve helped Egypt get back the Sinai and Saudi Arabia withstand Saddam, yet these two countries preach irrational hatred to the point where their citizens fly planes into our building.

We’ve help Afghanistan fight of the USSR, yet they provided a base for the terrorists.

We’ve helped the Bosnians and Kosovos, yet we are told with distain that we are only severing our interests (remember all that Bosnian oil?). Clinton said that our actions in Kosovo would win the hearts of Muslims. Yet, Muslims almost universally cheered the 9/11 attacks.

It never pays to help Muslims. It only makes you look weak and pathetic – and susceptible to moral blackmail. We are making a big mistake in Indonesia. When will we learn.

Just Linda:from what day you can cut your fingernails to how to wipe your butt.

Could this be the reason that Hook Hamza was unable to cut his toe nails, and thus not attend his court hearing?
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Folks: I sometimes feel that seeking to destroy an ideology as insane, non-sensical, and irrational as islam, by using truth and logic, is going to fail. As an example, a scientific theory that has some rationality behind it, can be deposed by using logic or experiment. If however the theory was totally non-sensical, it is futile to use the scientific method to depose it. It will not work, and in some instances, may actually give credence to it among the gullible.

I really do not know what the answer is.

As Mark Twain put it:

"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. That is the principle difference between a dog and a man."

And:

"Man is the only animal that has 'The True Religion'. (Several of them, in fact.)"

A child with a hand grenade is not to be talked to rationally. It needs to be grabbbed fast and stopped cold.

Islam is a child with a hand grenade*.

It needs to be brought under rational control.

Soon.

Or we will suffer its infantile anal-sadistic rage.

And deserve to.

************************************************

(*unfortunately the West was full of enough greedy, short-sighted self-destructive maniacs in the arms industry to sell the 'grenades' to the Muslims, now being throw back at them.)

I must agree that we are squandering millions of dollars by helping muslims. It won't be appreciated and will do absolutely nothing to improve our image. They'll thank Allah, not us.
The best thing we could do to improve our image in the muslim world is totally ignore them. When we stop bailing them out every time there is a catastrophe, a genocide, or whatever pitiable plight befalls them, they will have no choice but to fend for themselves or die. They will either modernize, reform their abominable religion, or regress into oblivion. Let them see that they are responsible for their own misery and maybe they'll change. As long as the rest of the world plays nursemaid to muslims, they will devote their time and energy to their favorite pursuits: hate and killing.
Let them depose their own corrupt leaders. Let them figure out for themselves that their imams and mullahs are as corrupt as their rulers.
The tyrants allow the clerics to control the sheep so they can nurture their kleptocracies and enrich their families and cronies. The clerics crave power over the people more than the greedy despots.
If 80% of the muslim clerics were summarily eliminated, peace would descend upon the world in record time. Maybe if muslims were not reminded thirty-five times a week to hate, kill, and wage war, they might eventually begin thinking of more constructive endeavors.
Like an infectious disease, Islam should have been scrupulously contained, confined, and guarded. It is a pollutant every bit as deadly as a dangerous chemical. We would never allow
foreigners to invade our lands and bring deadly poisons with them. Why did we allow muslims to come and bring Islam?

Susanp
Could,nt agree with you more

Pay back time or could it be the mussie way of saying thanks
Floods leave homes without power
The floods saw boats used by rescue workers
Tens of thousands of people in Carlisle are still without power and others have been evacuated after heavy flooding.
More than 3,000 people have already been moved to safety with a further 3,000 homes at "great risk" and more than 70,000 homes are without power.

Northumberland, North Wales and Scotland are among other areas worst hit and a spate of accidents has shut roads all over Britain.
Environment agencies have issued more than 100 flood warnings on UK rivers.

'Cut off'
Among them are two severe flood warnings of imminent danger to life and property - for the River Eden, Carlisle, and the River Caldew, in nearby Denton Holme.
Much of Carlisle city centre resembles a boating lake

BBC correspondent Catherine Marston
The bodies of two women were found in their homes in Carlisle, although it was not known whether they died due to the flooding.
There were reports in Scotland and Bradford of people being swept away.
On Scotland's west coast, a ferry ran aground with the 100 people on board set to remain overnight.
Police say Carlisle is completely cut off, with no safe roads in or out, and they have been appealing for help from boat owners because cars are unable to reach central areas.
A spokesman said water levels had peaked at 1545 GMT, at one metre higher than those seen in 1968 when Cumbria was last struck by serious flooding.
Helicopters had rescued at least 15 people, including children, from roofs in the area with the RAF on standby to airlift up to 8,000 more to safety, she added.
Motorists across the UK are being advised not to make journeys unless absolutely necessary and farmers are being told to move livestock to higher ground.
Major bridges around the country have been closed or restricted, and some train services have been severely disrupted.
In Haydon Bridge, on the Tyne, 40 people were taken from their homes to temporary shelter in a village school after the south Tyne burst its banks.

I have to agree that no aid might be a better course, provided that leaders had the courage to say why and make it clear.

Actually, I would like to start a movement here in the US to remove the protections of being a "religion" from Islam.

Seems to me that advocating violence, abuse of women, pediphilia, and some other crazy things should be enough to convince people that this is not a "relgion". In fact, I'm sort of wondering what the legal definition of one is here. The way I see it, we have freedom of religion, but Islam is not a religion, but merely political totalitarianism in disquise.

What do you all think?

I dont believe that the massive amount of aid given to Aceh will make much difference to their mindset. The lions share of the donations will go to this hotbed of Islamic terrorism, and although Howard promises to keep control of how the money is spent, I think a lot will end up in the hands of JI and their slimey fellow-murderers.

The private donations of Australians now total $AUD100 million + a huge aid package from the government (something like $AUD1 billion) + the donations from last nights telethon ($AUD15 million). This money will be given to one of the most corrupt governments on earth.

Representatives of JI are in Aceh already - to ensure the females are covering their heads, and everyone is obeying sharia - you know, important stuff like that ---

Left to themselves, the people of Aceh would be probably be grateful - like normal human beings - but this isnt going to happen. They will be told:

* that aid work is only a cover for those who want to destroy Islam

* that the whole thing is orchestrated by the dread Zionists, with Howard as their front man, for the purpose of softening their attitudes to militant Islam

* that the evil Jews and their puppets (the Satanic Americans and Australians) are out to destroy sharia

Then the resentment of the receiver will make its appearance and they will end up by hating us more than they hate us now.

How long until the first aid worker is kidnapped or murdered? They have already threatened to do it.

This sounds very negative but I think it will happen.

Stick - I agree. I have often wondered why Islamic customs that go contrary to our laws are winked at.

For example, one hospital in Sydney treats over one hundred patients a year - girls whose circumcision - read 'genital mutilation' - has gone wrong. Its only the tip of the iceberg, only those cases that need medical treatment - yet none of these people are ever arrested and charged with a crime.

I regard Islam as more of a cult than a religion - but the definition hardly matters because so many of our laws are broken by Muslims carrying out their duties to Islam.

Every iman who advocates violence against females should be charged under the hate crimes law - the same way that people who advocate violence against homosexuals are charged.

Every iman who calls Jews or Christians names like 'swine' etc and accuses them of carrying out mass murders, should be charged under the hate crimes act.

Like you, I often ask why this is not happening. I very rarely get a coherent reply.

DianaC
Frustrating Isn,t it
The aussie goverment would be better of using the money to improve their defense system

Kemaste
I could not agree with you more

I come to this site for the news and to communicate with others like myself -- people who are aware of the Jihad waged on America from within and from without.
If there's one thing that will cause me to leave/cease to participate is the persistant religious arrogance of some of the readers who write looong posts prostelyzing for Jesus.
"We can do what God says to do in Luke 21:36 and simply Watch and pray...We can repent and get started studying the Bible, Praising Christ, Giving, Praying and doing what God asks us to do." And on and on ...
As a Jew I don't believe in Christ nor do I want to be urged to or constantly hear about him -- can't we tone this kind of posting down?
This is Jihad Watch, not "come to Jesus Watch.,"
Isn't it?
Posted by: Kemaste

I would like to add; that this is Jihad Watch, not "come to Jesus Watch,or Koran watch,here I am refering to comments made in the [osama bin laden is the only leader of muslims now] thread,and catherines Quoranic rants.
Myself I am cocerned about the the crimes being committed in the name of religion be it islam/christian/hindu,The main issue is fightng the enemies of mankind not if allah is god is allah is god.
Below is what has been going on in the real world.
No wonder the mussies are gaining ground

Gunfire reported in Banda Aceh
There are reports of shooting in the major tsunami aid-base of Banda Aceh in the Indonesian province of Aceh.
There have been conflicting accounts of the incident, which happened near the main United Nations aid office, but no casualties have been reported.
One policeman blamed separatist rebels for the gunfire, another said a disturbed government soldier fired the shots.
The area is now quiet.
The incident could raise concern about the safety of hundreds of Western aid personnel pouring into Aceh province, where almost all of Indonesia's more than 104,000 deaths from the Boxing Day tsunami and earthquake occurred.
"A police team that was guarding the house of the deputy police chief saw people carrying guns. The police warned these people, then fired a shot and an exchange of fire occurred," Inspector Lazuardi, leading two truckloads of police deployed at the scene after the shooting, said.
Three people the police were shooting at fled, he said, adding the firing lasted about 10 minutes.

Asked who he thought was responsible, Inspector Lazuardi said: "Who else? GAM (the rebel Free Aceh Movement) is the one who likes to disturb."
GAM rebels have been fighting the Indonesian Government for nearly three decades. Both sides made conciliatory gestures immediately after the tsunami but since then have accused one another of initiating several clashes.
A policeman guarding the UN compound said the incident had nothing to do with GAM.
"It was a [security forces] member who was traumatised. The police and military have secured this area. It's safe. We are here to protect. It was only an isolated incident," he said.
The area was quiet later and the police trucks left.

-Reuters

The following story is from the Melbourne Age. I think it proves my point, so I rest my case. Goodnight all, sleep well.

Hardliners stop Aussie Aceh orphanage
January 8, 2005

A high-profile Australian charity headed by a Catholic priest has backed away from plans to set up an orphanage in tsunami-shattered Aceh after the plan enraged hardline Muslim groups.

Youth Off The Streets founder Father Chris Riley arrived in the provincial capital Banda Aceh with plans to set up a tent orphanage to house some of the estimated 35,000 Acehnese children with dead or missing parents.

The plan was backed with a $100,000 donation from NSW clubs and media mogul Kerry Packer's Nine Network funded Riley's trip.

But after the chief of the radical Islamic Defenders Front (FPI), Hilmy Bakar Almascaty warned Youth of the Streets to stick purely to humanitarian work, Riley said the orphanage plan had only ever been a last resort.

If there were too many sensitivities involved, he was happy to drop the plan or funnel support into an Indonesian organisation, he said.

"Youth of the Streets has no religious basis at all," he said.

"It is Christian I guess, but we've got Muslims in our services in Sydney. There is never any conflict there.

I'm not going to force myself into a community like this and if they've got things in hand, so be it.

"We are going to look. If it means we look elsewhere or go back to Australia, I don't have any problem with that at all. It's predominantly Muslim so you accept that. We're not going to fight that."

The issue is sensitive in Aceh, which is the only Indonesian province to have fully implemented Islamic sharia law and said to be the veranda of the holy city Mecca.

Radical and mainstream Muslim organisations have warned against encroachment by other religions in the province and the Indonesian government last week barred orphan children from leaving the region to preserve Aceh's culture and future.

Jakarta said it would set up its own 1,000 place orphanage in Banda Aceh.

Riley said he had come to Aceh with NSW Labor MP Tony Stewart because there had been a worldwide "cry of help".

But if there no need for an orphanage or too many sensitivities involved, he would funnel assistance into an Indonesian organisation, he said.

"It doesn't really worry me which way we really go to be honest. I've got enough work in Sydney to do, but the cry was out there and the whole world has responded," Riley said.

Stewart said the Australian government had been aware of Riley's plan and neither the Indonesian embassy nor Australian foreign affairs officials had mentioned any concerns.

"I know that what occurs here over the next few weeks with Youth off the Streets involvement will be done in a complementary fashion with existing services and the charities that are working here," he said.

After visiting a refugee camp, Riley said the destruction in Banda Aceh had not been as extensive as he had initially feared.

"It hasn't been wiped off the face of the earth. Parts of it have," he said.

"If every kid in this place, even three orphans, are cared for here, the last thing I would want to do is take them out of here.

"If they can actually network it and bring a kid into an extended family or an alternative family, it's a much better alternative than an orphanage."

Hilmy's organisation, known as FPI, is known for smashing up bars and nightclubs in Jakarta and elsewhere deemed to be un-Islamic.

Australian travel warnings for Indonesia warn travellers about the "sweeping operations" the group conducts.

FPI is presently bringing thousands of volunteers to help in the reconstruction of Aceh and to guard against foreign influence brought in by the thousands of foreign military and aid workers now delivering humanitarian assistance to the region.

© 2005 AAP

Diana C.

I'm curious. Why aren't the parents/guardians of those girls arrested and charged. Is the hospital's medical staff not required to report such crimes? Is the number that you quoted common knowledge throughout Australia? If so, where's the outrage? Some hospital staff members might argue that arresting the amature gynecologists who botch the 'procedure' would keep them from bringing their mutilated 'patients' in for treatment. Is that the case there? Is there an active public education program on radio and television, and in print media to inform the average citizen of the problem? Is such a program prominently presented in public schools so that the intended victims, and school administrators, can let mothers, fathers and Islamic 'scholars' know that the procedure is both immoral and illegal?

Bob

DianaC
FPI is presently bringing thousands of volunteers to help in the reconstruction of Aceh and to guard against foreign influence brought in by the thousands of foreign military and aid workers now delivering humanitarian assistance to the region.
Utter fooking bullshite,
And this is how the indonesian goverment is helping the victims,shipping in and feeding radicals,while their military continues the war
I would also like to state that many of this slime are now eating better now than ever before.
If the Indonesian goverment can not look after Acehnese without the help of Radicals then they should get the fook out.Also before the disaster the Acehnece did not want to a part of Indonesia,and it is Indonesia that is hindering the aid to the acehnese
This is just another sinister move by the
Jakarta Mega Maffia

PC BobC PC

the Kuffaar can never be trusted"
so we do it ourselves
Afghan tribe threatens to burn opium growers' houses
KHOST, Afghanistan : Tribal elders in southeastern Afghanistan have threatened to torch the houses of people found growing opium and make them pay a hefty fine in a bid to stamp out burgeoning poppy cultivation.
By far the most drastic suggestion yet offered for tackling the country's rampant drug trade, the punishment failed to win the approval of Afghan President Hamid Karzai despite his anti-narcotics stance.
But with tribal law replacing a non-existent justice system in the outer reaches of Afghanistan and without a clearly defined strategy for eradicating drugs, the extreme solution shows just how tough the battle against opium is going to be.
Backed by the United States and other western governments, Karzai vowed after his inauguration last month to launch a "jihad", or holy war, against narcotics, which account for two-thirds of Afghanistan's economy.
The tribal council of southeastern Khost province appeared to have taken him at his word, announcing in a radio broadcast earlier this week that anyone arrested for robbery, setting explosives or growing opium would have to pay a 100,000 Afghani (2,083 US dollar) fine and would have their house burnt down.
"All the tribes agreed to obey this agreement and all tribes signed it, so ordinary people in each tribe will obey and respect it," Sultan Mohammad Babrakzai, assistant Head of Tribes Affairs Department in Khost, told AFP.
Babrakzai added that the tribesmen would also burn down the houses of anyone who supports Taliban and Al-Qaeda-linked militants in the region, which has been a hotbed for attacks on US and pro-government forces.
Khost's tribal elders made the headlines in September ahead of Afghanistan's first presidential election for threatening to burn the houses of any locals found not to be voting for Karzai, who later won the October 9 poll.
Now they are throwing their weight behind Karzai's drive to stem the growth of Afghanistan opium crop which jumped 64 percent over the last year and now accounts for almost 90 percent of the world's opium and its hroin derivatives.
Karzai distanced himself from the threats, saying that violence was an unacceptable way to tackle the problem.
"While welcoming the determination of many Afghans to rid the country of the curse of poppies and drug cultivation, the government asks all Afghans to abide by the constitution and laws. The Afghan government is opposed to threats of violence against any Afghan citizen," Karzai's spokesman Khaleeq Ahmad told AFP.
Growing or trafficking opium is a jailable offence but across southeastern Afghanistan government structures are weak and ancient tribal law holds sway, enforced by young men belonging to tribal militias while local courts and police forces are not robust enough to tackle the problem through legal means.
"Tribal leaders and rules have a big influence among ordinary people in Khost, so this agreement of tribal leaders will have an effect on security, reducing Taliban activities and clearing poppy cultivation in the region," Ghazi Nawaz Tani, the head of Tribe Unity Council told AFP.
He was one of the those who drafted the new declaration and said tribal support could play a positive role in dealing with the two major challenges for the Afghan government -- security and stemming poppy cultivation.
But the tribal ruling apparently fails to address the crux of the opium problem in Afghanistan -- offering an alternative money-spinner to despairing, near-destitute local farmers.
"I cultivated poppies on my own land and if they grow and sell it can lift me out of poverty. I don't have an alternative," Khan Bad Shah, a 36-year-old local farmer from Khost province told AFP.
If tribal militias eradicate his poppy fields Shah would struggle because opium generates around 10 times more income that wheat or other cash crops.
Khost province is not one of Afghanistan's main opium growing regions because of the climate and the soil, and cultivation is mostly limited to more remote mountainous regions.
However, unrest in southern Afghanistan linked to the government's drive to eradicate opium poppies has already begun with at least one government soldier working on eradication killed Thursday in Deh Rawood district in southcentral Uruzgan province.
The soldier, who was part of a convoy of 50 soldiers working on poppy eradication, was killed by two militants local authorities said were linked to the Taliban. The attackers were killed later by government soldiers.

"the Kuffaar can never be trusted"

Very good.

I hope when you are in the middle of attempting to endear yourselves to us, looking us straight into our eyes loading on the taqqiyah, explaining your patriotism or the reason the Israelis really are to blame for all Muslims problems in the world, that you are doubting me. When you have smiled the faintest slip of a smile, eyes moist with sincerity I hope that you're wondering too, if we aren't just pretending to buy it. That in fact we may just be playing with you and have a plan of our own. Don't trust me cousin, don't turn your back on me ...

"the Kuffaar can never be trusted"

Very good.

I hope when you are in the middle of attempting to endear yourselves to us, looking us straight into our eyes loading on the taqqiyah, explaining your patriotism or the reason the Israelis really are to blame for all Muslims problems in the world, that you are doubting me. When you have smiled the faintest slip of a smile, eyes moist with sincerity I hope that you're wondering too, if we aren't just pretending to buy it. That in fact we may just be playing with you and have a plan of our own. Don't trust me cousin, don't turn your back on me ...

kemaste
looks like you understand the enemy,and also realize it is best to adapt to there way
Don't trust me cousin, don't turn your back on me ...

DP111:

"I really do not know what the answer is."

I do.

Stick:

islam (islamofascism) IS political totalitarianism in the guise of a primitve, barbaric demonic moon-god blood cult.

Have I stated my opinion clearly enough? :-)

Being one of those guilty KUFR's who will post The Holy Bible Scriptures in repudiation of koran verses, comments, etc., I will share with you that me personally, draw strength from GOD in the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.

"It is not that they cannot see the solution.
It is that they cannot see the problem".?

Nathan
And, you as a Jew
Nowhere have I stated that I am a jew,not in my last comment,or any comment or at anytime other in my whole life

Myself I am concerned about the the crimes being committed in the name of religion be it islam/christian/hindu
[in the past present or future]and just now it is Islam under the spotlight,but lets not forget
christian killing christian
northern ireland
rwanda
america/UN bombing orthodox serbs
the orginal natives of the americas

faith in one self and your fellow man is supperior than any abstract god

B.I.B.L.E. = basic instructions before leaving earth?

lest we forget
And this below is not from the Quoran
Collective punishment and indiscriminate war were also commanded or approved in the Hebrew Bible, especially in cases of idolatry. The first of the Mosaic commandments prohibited the Israelites from worshipping anyone but Yahweh. God demanded purity and strict obedience; idolatry and blasphemy were punishable by death (Exodus 20:3, 5). Non-Israelites who lived within the area believed by the Hebrews to have been promised to them by God were seen to pose a great temptation to them to abandon their faith. This led them to justify the slaughter of entire communities. Deuteronomy 20:16-18 says, "[In] the towns of the nations whose land the LORD your God is giving you as your holding, you must not leave a soul alive.... [Y]ou must destroy them ... so that they may not teach you to imitate the abominable practices they have carried on for their gods...." Joshua 6:21 and 10:40 claim that "[Joshua's army killed everyone in Jericho], both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys.... Joshua defeated the whole land... he left no one remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded."
Israel's external enemies were to be treated somewhat more leniently: they were first to be presented with peace terms, and if those were accepted then the people would be subjugated, not killed. But if they rejected the terms, the men would be slaughtered and the women and children enslaved. (Deuteronomy 20:10-15):

Aussies,
Lets write to some TV and Radio shows and ask for open debate

Maybe the PC public aren’t quiet to withdraw aid from Muslim tidal wave survivors but they can demand to know it is out of reach of terrorists and Islamic propaganda machines
They sure can have an opinion on the Victorian Vilification case, the end of free speech here. I don’t want to offend any Christians here on this forum, but Australia is not a very religious country. The Aussies, in general, are not keen or used too religion in their politics in the first place. There also does not seem to be much awareness of Dhimmi here either, I am concerned the Aust public will retaliate more at The Family First Party (a new Fundi Christian political party who came in last election out of no where) seems to have some connection with the Church in this case, then they will the Islamic Councils.

Why is Australia, the USA and Christianity vilified publicly and proudly, Is Islam, a protected religion to sensitive to debate ?

ABC Compass totally Dhimmi articles on Islam etc but still they need to become accountable ask for open debate or a Compass special on protected Islam
http://www2b.abc.net.au/religion/guestbook/

SBS Insight (Australia’s Multicultural TV Station) current affairs debate show. You can list a topic you would like to see up for debate. I posted here and it didn’t come up so maybe it needs to be very polite or they are still on holidays. A friend just told me that SBS had a report on TV the other night looking at ACEH and militias turning up in town to ensure that sharia is upheld with all of the infidels in the place.
http://www6.sbs.com.au/insight/guestbook.php3?type=S#

John Laws 2UE radio presenter (infamously anti PC)
We could email him with links to these main articles or letters asking for discussion.
http://www.2ue.com/emailus.asp

Alan Jones is another very well heard radio talk back that is anti PC
http://2gb.com/

Tim

No matter what we think of these shows and presenters they are the mainstream media.

Cheers

shiva:

Nathan confused your quote of Kemaste's post with your own words, that's all.

Nathan:

How amazing the way you offhandedly dismiss the Talmud as," mostly a bunch of bunk, the rant of the rabbi's, Gods words reinterpreted and changed and therein as, "Jewish fables, and things found in the talmud, Not the Old testimant, or Torah"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud

Mohammed was a camel driver. Sitting around the campfire at night he listened to fellow travelers -- Jews, Christians and co-opted from their religions in an attempt to make Islam more similar and attractive to them in hopes of converting them. Halal is a good example of this except for the wine drinking. This comes not from the Talmud but straight out of Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

CGW
I Know
I still like to point out the fact that I do not care to much for abstract gods
But this does not stop me from knowing the difference between evil and good

Shiva and Kemaste, I must agree with you. In the article today (about the new, stronger alliance between Ali Sina and Robert,formed because of an effort of the enemy to drive a wedge between them), Robert said:

". . .these people are following the playbook of the man who taught that "war is deceit." And the attempt to alienate enemies from one another is a time-honored jihadist practice. It was practiced with particular effectiveness in the run-up to the fall of Constantinople, when various Byzantine factions were all too eager to conclude alliances of convenience with Muslim forces -- alliances that only weakened the overall position of the non-Muslims. But Ali Sina and I are not so willing."

Most of the rest of us agree. From time to time, there are snizzets among readers of JW about beliefs, rituals, etc.

It is TERRIBLY important that we not allow the practice of "divide and conquer" weaken the ties that bind the Civilized World. We have allies ranging from Atheists to Zionists. We also have a common goal that must be maintained until Islam is no longer a threat.

Word of advice: No matter HOW strongly you believe that your belief system is the "One True System," put it aside and focus on strategy and tactics in this war.

Believe me, that's exactly what the enemy is doing by observing the quibbles about "My version is best," and "No, MY version is best!"

Folks, the only important thing is: FOCUS ON THE GOAL! Don't regard each other as "Infidels." What a waste of time and energy!

Kuffaar? Infidel? Here our people are over in that hole, trying to help the helpless, andwe have mindless cretins like this one popping off at the mouth like this.

One of those "hit squads" we're beginning to use in Iraq should be sent to pay this fruitcake a visit.

In fact, these hit squads are long overdue. They should be used by our armed forces everywhere in the world, including inside the United States.

I am completely convinced that I am acting as the agent of God. I am now a Catholic and will always remain so.”

— Adolf Hitler
Mein Kampf
Hitler was never excommunicated by the Vatican
Mein Kampf was never banned by The Church

nathan
what about Rev Ian Paisly
As far as Rwanda,according to the newspaers blah blah----- lets follow the advice from
Cubed
. We also have a common goal that must be maintained until Islam is no longer a threat.

Word of advice: No matter HOW strongly you believe that your belief system is the "One True System," put it aside and focus on strategy and tactics in this war.

Believe me, that's exactly what the enemy is doing by observing the quibbles about "My version is best," and "No, MY version is best!"

Folks, the only important thing is: FOCUS ON THE GOAL! Don't regard each other as "Infidels." What a waste of time and energy!