The jihad has spread to Cambodia. That fact has been seared -- seared! -- into my memory. From Stephen Brown in FrontPage, "Cambodian Court Sentences Islamists to Life in Prison":
The recent conviction of three Islamist terrorists in a Cambodian courtroom illustrates once again the extent of the jihadist threat facing the free world and the efforts radical Islam is making to destroy it.Last December 29, a Cambodian judge handed the three Islamists life sentences in prison for their part in a plot to blow up the American and British embassies in Phnom Penh, Cambodia’s capital, in 2002. Two of the convicted are Thai Muslims, while the third belongs to Cambodia’s indigenous Muslim community. All are believed to be involved with Jemaah Islamiyah, an al Qaeda-linked terrorist network in Southeast Asia, which wants to establish an Islamist super state in the area. A fourth defendant, an Egyptian, was acquitted.
The Cambodian prosecutor in the case said the three planned the terrorist attack with Hambali, the mastermind of the 2002 Bali bombing in Indonesia, which killed 202 people, many of them foreign tourists. The three Islamists were accused of using a Saudi Arabian-funded Islamic school, where they were employed as teachers, as a cover to carry out the embassy bombings. Cambodian authorities subsequently closed down the Phnom Penh-area school and expelled from the country 28 foreign Muslims and their families, who originated from as far away as Nigeria.
Hambali, who has been in American custody since his arrest in Thailand in 2003, is known to have spent time in Cambodia the previous year. It is believed the Indonesian terrorist intended to use the country as a base to launch terrorist attacks in Southeast Asia. The three terrorist-teachers were also accused of having hidden him during his sojourn in Cambodia, during which time he taught them to use explosives. Hambali and two others involved in the plot were convicted in absentia during the same trial and also were given life sentences.
Read it all.
I won't believe it is seared - seared!- into your memory until I have seen your magic hat.
Commies and islam go hand and hand??
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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight, and Courage to Victory[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Evil Amen
Where ever islam is, destruction is. When will the world wake up and put a stop to these savages?
I'm surprised that there were muslims in Csambodia in any significant numbers, to start up the jihad.
Cambodia, a mainly Buddhist country, suffered the ravages of a Stalinist/Maoist Pol Pot regime. It really is unfair that the jihad should start so soon after.
In our focus on jihad, let us not forget the injustices that were committed by the ancestors of the founding fathers of the USA:
I quote:
The worst terrorist act of all times was against a CONTINENT and this aggression destroyed many, many millions of Black Peoples and left their descendants without resources, a land, a country, a culture, a name, without a pot to p--- in, and without self determination and dignity. And worse, these descendants who were forced into captivity in strange lands and ethnically cleansed to the bone still do not have their freedom. If you think we do, then where is the Slave’s Declaration of Independence? Where did the evil Slave Masters write in their constitution that Descendants of Slaves are free to leave the lands that enslaved them? Where is the justice served for the enslavement of Blacks out of Africa? Where is retribution for the death and pain and suffering Black Slaves endured for centuries? President Bush echoes "the right thing to do" for whatever his Administration advises. Where is the "right thing to do" for Descendants of Slaves whose forebears worked from sunup until sundown and often until midnight without pay and without decent food, clothing, and shelter while their wives and children were sold right before their eyes, and they were helpless to do a thing about it? Where is the "right thing to do" for Blacks when the US donates billions upon billions of our tax dollars to Israelis and other countries while the ghettoes and rural South waste away causing the demise of our Black youth and inhibiting their prosperity and intellectual and mental growth? Where is the "right thing to do" while the educated and talented Blacks watch the White privileged excel above and beyond whether they are qualified or with degrees or not? Where is JUSTICE SERVED for all the degradation and human suffering the Black Man has experienced for well over 400 years in these United States?
http://www.thelawkeepers.org/replet106e.htm
Posted by: whitequeen at January 15, 2005 07:16 AM
to finish??
you say your book is wrong??
DECEPTION:
Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.’”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”
Qur’an 66:1 “Allah has already sanctioned for you the dissolution of your vows.”
Bukhari:V4B52N268 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘War is deceit.’”
Qur’an 4:142 “Surely the hypocrites strive to deceive Allah. He shall retaliate by deceiving them.”
Bukhari:V7B71N661 “Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle and he was bewitched so that he began to imagine doing things which in fact, he had not done.”
Bukhari:V6B60N8 “Umar said, ‘Our best Qur’an reciter is Ubai. And in spite of this, we leave out some of his statements because Allah’s Apostle himself said, “Whatever verse or revelation We abrogate or cause to be forgotten We bring a better one.”
Qur’an 33:11 “In that situation the Believers were sorely tried and shaken as by a tremendous shaking. And behold! The Hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘Allah and His Messenger promised us nothing but delusion; they have promised only to deceive us.”
Qur’an 33:14 “Say: Flight will not avail you if you flee from death, killing, or slaughter. In that case you will not be allowed to enjoy yourselves but a little while. Say, ‘Who will screen you, saving you from Allah if he intends to harm and injure you?’”
Qur’an 33:21 “You have in (Muhammad) the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern of conduct for any one to follow.”
Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the people of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the people of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease. And for those to whom the Scripture Book has been given, and the believers, there should be no doubt. The unbelievers may say, ‘What does the Lord intend by this?’ The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases, and He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
Qur’an 74:52 “Each one of them wants to be given scrolls of revelation spread out! No! By no means! Nay, this is an admonishment. Let them keep it in remembrance! But they will not heed unless the Lord wants them to. He is the fountain of fear.”
Bukhari:V2B24N555 “I heard the Prophet say, ‘Allah hates for you for asking too many questions.’”
Qur’an 89:5 “There surely is an oath for thinking man.”
Qur’an 92:8 “We will make smooth for him the path to misery.”
Ishaq:519 “Hajjaj said to the Apostle, ‘I have money scattered among the Meccan merchants, so give me permission to go and get it.’ Having got Muhammad’s permission, he said, ‘I must tell lies.’ The Apostle said, ‘Tell them.’”
Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from a people with whom you have a treaty, retaliate by breaking off relations with them.”
Qur’an 47:24 “Do they not understand the Qur’an? Nay, on the hearts there are locks preventing them from understanding.”
Ishaq:548 “By Allah, the black mass has spread. Abu Bakr said, ‘There is not much honesty among people nowadays.’”
Qur’an 5:41 “Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah does not want them to know the truth because he intends to disgrace them and then torture them.”
Qur’an 5:101 “Believers! Do not ask questions about things which if made plain and declared to you, may vex you, causing you trouble.”
Qur’an 5:102 “Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account they lost their faith and became disbelievers.”
Ishaq:567 “Muhammad informed Umar [the second Caliph], and he called the Prophet a liar.”
Tabari IX:36/Ishaq:596 “‘Prophet, this group of Ansar have a grudge against you for what you did with the booty and how you divided it among you own people.’ ‘Ansar, what is this talk I hear from you? What is the grudge you harbor against me? Do you think ill of me? Did I not come to you when you were erring and needy, and then made rich by Allah?’ ‘You came to us discredited, when your message was rejected by the Quraysh, and we believed you. You were forsaken and deserted and we assisted you. You were a fugitive and we took you in, sheltering you. You were poor and in need, and we comforted you.”
Bukhari:V6B60N662 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Some eloquent speech is as effective as magic.’”
Tabari VI:110 “When Muhammad brought a revelation from Allah canceling what Satan had cast on the tongue of His Prophet, the Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad has repented of [reneged on] what he said concerning the position of our gods with Allah. He has altered [the bargain] and brought something else.’ Those two phrases which Satan had cast on Muhammad’s tongue of were in the mouth of every polytheist. The Messenger said, ‘I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.’”
Qur’an 40:32 “O my People! I fear a Day when there will be mutual wailing. No one shall defend you against Allah. Any whom Allah causes to err, there is no guide. That is how Allah leads the skeptic astray.”
Ishaq:248 “Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing, blinding them so that they will never find guidance. And that is because they have declared you a liar and they do not believe in what has come down from their Lord to you even though they believe in all that came down before you. For opposing you they will have an awful punishment.”
Qur’an 2:6 “As for the disbelievers, it is the same whether you warn them or not; they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts, upon their hearing, and a covering over their eyes. There is a great torment for them.”
Qur’an 2:9 “They deceive Allah and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves, and realize (it) not! In their hearts is a disease; and Allah has increased their disease. Grievous is the painful doom they (incur) because they (lie).”
Qur’an 8:18 “This and surely; Allah weakens the deceitful plots of unbelieving infidels.”
Qur’an 8:30 “Remember how the unbelievers plotted against you (Muhammad). They plotted, and Allah too had arranged a plot; but Allah is the best schemer.”
Ishaq:323 “I am the best of plotters. I deceived them with My guile so that I delivered you from them.”
Qur’an 8:49 “When the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘The religion has deceived and misled them.’”
Qur’an 8:71 “If they try to deceive you, remember they have deceived Allah before.”
Tabari VII:85/Ishaq:363 “The Jews of the Qaynuqa replied, ‘Muhammad, do you think that we are like your people? Do not be deluded by the fact that you met a people with no knowledge and you made good use of your opportunity.’”
Ishaq:365/Tabari VII:94 “Muhammad bin Maslamah said, ‘O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.’ ‘Say what you like,’ Muhammad replied. ‘You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.’”
Bukhari:V5B59N369 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?’ Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslamah got up saying, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like me to kill him?’ The Prophet said, ‘Yes,’ Maslamah said, ‘Then allow me to say false things in order to deceive him.’ The Prophet said, ‘You may say such things.’”
Qur’an 61:5 “Moses said: ‘O my people, why do you annoy and insult me, when you well know I am Allah’s Messenger?’ Then when they turned away, Allah caused them to be deceived.”
Bukhari:V4B52N233 “Allah’s Apostle forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying copies of the Qur’an. [He said:] Unbelievers will never understand our signs and revelations.”
Ishaq:248 “Allah increases their sickness. A tormented doom awaits the Jews. Allah said, ‘They are mischief makers. They are fools. The Jews deny the truth and contradict what the Apostle has brought. I will mock them and let them continue to wander blindly.’”
Bukhari:V4B52N147 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘A man may seem as if he were practicing the deeds of Paradise while in fact he is from the people of Hell.’”
Qur’an 13:27 “Say, ‘God leads whosoever He wills astray.’”
Ishaq:383 “One of the young men’s fathers confronted Muhammad and said, ‘You have robbed my son of his life by your deception and brought great sorrow to me.’”
Qur’an 3:24 “They have been deceived by the lies they have themselves fabricated; their religion has deceived them.”
Ishaq:397 “Then Allah said, ‘It is not for any prophet to deceive.”
Ishaq:442 “By Muhammad’s order we beguiled them.”
Tabari VIII:23 “The Messenger and his Companions continued in the fear and distress that Allah has described in the Qur’an. Then Nu’aym came to the Prophet. ‘I ‘ve become a Muslim, but my tribe does not know of my Islam; so command me whatever you will.’ Muhammad said, ‘Make them abandon each other if you can so that they will leave us; for war is deception.’”
Ishaq:496 “‘By Allah you lie,’ one said to another. ‘Liar yourself!’ ‘You are a disaffected person arguing on behalf of the diseased.”
Bukhari:V4B53N408 “When the Prophet wanted to perform the Umrah, the Quraysh stipulated that he could not preach (Islam). So Ali started writing a treaty. ‘This is what Muhammad, Apostle of Allah, has agreed to.’ The (Meccans) said, ‘If we believed that you were the Apostle of Allah we would have followed you. So write, ‘This is what Muhammad bin Abdallah has agreed to.’ The Apostle could not write, so he asked Ali to erase the expression: ‘Apostle of Allah.’ On that Ali said, ‘I will never erase it.’ Muhammad said, ‘Let me see the paper.’ The Prophet
erased the expression with his own hand.”
INTOLERANCE:
Qur’an 9:71 “O Prophet, strive hard [fighting] against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be harsh with them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed.”
Qur’an 8:59 “The infidels should not think that they can get away from us. Prepare against them whatever arms and weaponry you can muster so that you may terrorize them.”
Qur’an 4:168 “Those who reject [Islamic] Faith, Allah will not forgive them nor guide them to any path except the way to Hell, to dwell therein forever. And this to Allah is easy.”
Part of the American Tribe
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Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Evil give the World Strength to Stand Up and Fight them Amen
WHITEQUEEN
The West gave up SLAVERY over 150 yrs ago ,Islam still practises it.What are you personally doing about the many thousandS of Black Muslims in Darfur -MEN,WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN ABDUCTED IN THE MOST BARBARIC CIRCUMSTANCES NOW??
Nothing methinks, according to you Muslims are always Victims never Perpetrators.Why don't you ask yourself why it is that Islamic countries are invariably poor [without oil revenues from the West], violent and backward and why are you, yourself living in a Western country??
Re: Cambodia's reponse to Jihad, particularly like the way rest of Jihadists' families are DEPORTED! Destroy Snake's nest on site. Also like
how Putin is training young people to resist Terrorists. ALL WESTERN COUNTRIES SHOULD DEPORT JIHADI,THEIR WIVES AND BRATS FORTHWITH. ALSO TRAIN AND ARM OUR POPULATION FROM 16YRS - 60 YRS
TO RESIST AND KILL TERRORISTS.
Whitequeen, you know what your religion teaches on slavery, so if I were you I wouldn't throw stones at ANYONE. AND if you would pay attention, there are no slaves in the US now. Can you say the same for all muslim lands? Also, the word for blacks and slave are the same in your language aren't they? Your book says:
Ishaq:243 " I heard the Apostle say: Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal! He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks...Allah sent down concerning him: To those who annoy the Prophet there is painful doom. (9:61) "Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey's."
Doesn't sound like blacks are held in high esteem in islam, does it? So, clean up your own doorstep first before you start on ours. You have a lot to clean, bloody tracks all the way from the 7th century till now.
SLAVORY???
http://www.zum.de/psm/rta/doa27.php
Reichstagsakten 1888/89, 7. Lp., Vol. 121, Attachment 41: Collection of Documents pertaining the Uprising in East Africa, No. 27: Directive to the Imperial ambassador in London
Friedrichsruh, October 21st 1888
The movement of the Muslim Arabs, supported by slave traders, which first found its expression in the Mahdi revolt in the Egyptian Sudan, has since expanded and had also resulted in collisions with European enterprises at other points of the African continent. The raid on an Italian expedition in 1886 by the Emir of Harar, the threat to stations on the eastern border of the Congo Free State by Arabs, the treatment of Stanley and his companions by Tippu Tip, the attacks on English mission stations in Uganda and on trade settlements on Lake Nyassa, the rebellion in coastal stretches of the Sultanate of Zanzibar which are under British and German administration - all these events give the impression that they are connected with each other, a connection which provides evidence for a slowly increasing, but freely forming movement among the Muslim population in the direction of a reaction against Christian and civilisatoric efforts, namely in the area of slave trade. All nations interested in the promotion of Christian morale share an equal interest in counteracting the dangers posed by such a movement.
The rising importance and expansion the Muslim agitation has gained over the last years in Africa, goes hand in hand with a rising export of powder and arms from Europe to equatorial Africa.
Ample equipment with arms and ammunition facilitates the slave trader's raids and the Arabs' attempts to keep the European opponents of slave trade from penetrating further and to repel them from their present positions.
Therefore it seems to us a common obligation of the European nations engaged in the peaceful opening-up of Africa to obstruct both the slave trade and the arms trade with greater emphasis, than it has been done so far. Such an aim seems only feasible by a blockade of the entire East African coast, which is strong and firm enough to obstruct the export of slaves and the import of arms more effectively as before. If the Royal British government does approve such a measure, we are prepared to enter negotiations with all other concerned powers in order to obtain their approval. I would regard it especially appropriate to obtain France's accord in regard to reject Arab slave trader dhows the right to sail under the French flag.
I ask Your Excellency most humbly to communicate with Lord Salisbury according to the beforementioned comments and to report his answer.
signed von Bismarck
His Excellency the Imperial ambassador
Count von Hatzfeldt
London
arabs sellin slaves and the White west trying to stop them??
http://www.zum.de/psm/rta/doa8a.php
Reichstagsakten 1888/89, 7. Lp., Vol. 121, Attachment 41: Collection of Documents pertaining the Uprising in East Africa, Report from the Imperial consul general on Zanzibar
No.8, attachment no. 1, Report from District Chief of Lindi
Lindi, August 16th 1888
The Arab segment of the population of Lindi lives on the slave trade. All soldiers and Sultan's men are accomplices and receive their share in the robbery.
The main slave traders are :
Mahamadi Ngunga
Bachofa Hamed
Abid bin Zef
Halaal bin Zef
Salim bin Abdallah
Seliman, the Sultan's prison guard
Rashid de Pappa
and the Kadi Omani bin Jemali
The latter is given a large percentage for remaining silent.
British warships hardly ever have confiscated a slave dhow here and do not visit the port. Almost all the dhows sail under the French flag which they obtain from the consulate in Madagscar, as they have their ships measured there.
I remark simultanously that it is difficult to undertake anything here against slave trade, which is also profitable to the indigenous along the coast, without having a sufficient force at my disposal.
the district chief
Freiherr von Eberstein
HMMM!!!
John Quincy Adams Knew Jihad
By Andrew G. Bostom
FrontPageMagazine.com | September 29, 2004
John Quincy Adams possessed a remarkably clear, uncompromised understanding of the permanent Islamic institutions of jihad war and dhimmitude. Regarding jihad, Adams states in his essay series,
“…he [Muhammad] declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind…The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God.”
Confirming Adams’ assessment, the late Muslim scholar, Professor Majid Khadduri, wrote the following in his authoritative 1955 treatise on jihad, War and Peace in the Law of Islam :
“Thus the jihad may be regarded as Islam’s instrument for carrying out its ultimate objective by turning all people into believers, if not in the prophethood of Muhammad (as in the case of the dhimmis), at least in the belief of God. The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have declared ‘some of my people will continue to fight victoriously for the sake of the truth until the last one of them will combat the anti-Christ’. Until that moment is reached the jihad, in one form or another will remain as a permanent obligation upon the entire Muslim community. It follows that the existence of a dar al-harb is ultimately outlawed under the Islamic jural order; that the dar al-Islam permanently under jihad obligation until the dar al-harb is reduced to non-existence; and that any community accepting certain disabilities- must submit to Islamic rule and reside in the dar al-Islam or be bound as clients to the Muslim community. The universality of Islam, in its all embracing creed, is imposed on the believers as a continuous process of warfare, psychological and political if not strictly military.”3
And Adams captured the essential condition imposed upon the non-Muslim dhimmi “tributaries” subjugated by jihad, with this laconic statement,
“The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute.”
Indeed, the famous Shafi’i jurist of Baghdad, al-Mawardi (d. 1058), highlights the most salient aspect of the consensus view of classical Islamic jurisprudence regarding the vanquished non-Muslims “tribute”, i.e., the jizya: the critical connection between jihad and payment of the jizya. He notes that “The enemy makes a payment in return for peace and reconciliation.” Al-Mawardi then distinguishes two cases: (I) Payment is made immediately and is treated like booty, however “it does, however, not prevent a jihad being carried out against them in the future.”. (II). Payment is made yearly and will “constitute an ongoing tribute by which their security is established.” Reconciliation and security last as long as the payment is made. If the payment ceases, then the jihad resumes. A treaty of reconciliation may be renewable, but must not exceed 10 years.4 The nature of such “protection”, i.e., a blood ransom, is reinforced in this definition of jizya written by E.W. Lane, based on a careful analysis of the etymology of the term:
“The tax that is taken from the free non-Muslim subjects of a Muslim government whereby they ratify the compact that assures them protection, as though it were compensation for not being slain” 5
Adams’ staunch anti-imperialism, one of the “fourteen fundamentals” of U.S. foreign policy which Samuel Flagg Bemis states, “…we may connect with the name of John Quincy Adams more than with that of any other man” 6, is consistent with Old Man Eloquent’s support for the struggle of the Greeks 7 to liberate themselves from the yoke of centuries of dhimmitude, imposed by the imperialism of Ottoman jihad 8. At minimum, in light of the global war on jihad terrorism, John Quincy Adams’ candid, timeless ruminations should be required reading for all contemporary U.S. diplomats and politicians.
Key annotated excerpts from John Quincy Adams’ remarkable series of essays, are provided below.
Adams on Jesus Christ and Christianity, Relative to Muhammad and Islam
"And he [Jesus] declared, that the enjoyment of felicity in the world hereafter, would be reward of the practice of benevolence here. His whole law was resolvable into the precept of love; peace on earth – good will toward man, was the early object of his mission; and the authoritative demonstration of the immortality of man, was that, which constituted the more than earthly tribute of glory to God in the highest… The first conquest of the religion of Jesus, was over the unsocial passions of his disciples. It elevated the standard of the human character in the scale of existence…On the Christian system of morals, man is an immortal spirit, confined for a short space of time, in an earthly tabernacle. Kindness to his fellow mortals embraces the whole compass of his duties upon earth, and the whole promise of happiness to his spirit hereafter. THE ESSENCE OF THIS DOCTRINE IS, TO EXALT THE SPIRITUAL OVER THE BRUTAL PART OF HIS NATURE." (Adam's capital letters)….[pp. 267-268]
“In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE (Adam's capital letters)….Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant…While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men.” [p. 269]
Adams on Jihad War, Dhimmitude, and the Muslim View of Non-Muslims; Examples of the Perfidy of Muslim States, Including the Ottoman Turkish State
“As the essential principle of his faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.
They [The Russians] have been from time immemorial, in a state of almost perpetual war with the Tatars, and with their successors, the Ottoman conquerors of Constantinople. It were an idle waste of time to trace the causes of each renewal of hostilities, during a succession of several centuries. The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When our gallant [Stephen] Decatur ref had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded. The arrival of Chauncey, with a squadron before Algiers, silenced the fraudulent claim of the Dey, and he signed a new treaty in which it was abandoned; but he disdained to conceal his intentions; my power, said he, has been wrested from my hands; draw ye the treaty at your pleasure, and I will sign it; but beware of the moment, when I shall recover my power, for with that moment, your treaty shall be waste paper. He avowed what they always practised, and would without scruple have practised himself. Such is the spirit, which governs the hearts of men, to whom treachery and violence are taught as principles of religion.” [p. 274-275]
“Had it been possible for a sincere and honest peace to be maintained between the Osmanli and his christian neighbors, then would have been the time to establish it in good faith. But the treaty was no sooner made than broken. It never was carried into effect by the Turkish government.” [p. 276]
“From the time when the disaster of Navarino ref had been made known to him, the Reis Effendi [Ottoman diplomat assigned to Russia] had assumed the tone of the aggrieved party, and made formal demands of indemnity, and the punishment of the offending admirals. He still manifested however, a solicitude to prevent the rupture of the negotiations by the departure of the ambassadors…” [p. 298]
“Upon the departure of the ambassadors, the Sultan, who must have been, however, unwillingly preparing his mind for that event, immediately determined upon two things; a war with Russia alone – and a dallying attempt to protract the negotiation, and gain time of preparation for the conflict.” [p. 298]
[From the Ottoman Reis Effendi, to his Russian counterparts] ‘The present friendly letter has been composed and sent, to acquaint your excellency. with the circumstance; when you shall learn, on receipt of it, that the Sublime Porte has at all times; no other desire or wish than to preserve peace, and good understanding ; and that the event in question has been brought about, entirely by the act of the said minister, we hope that you will endeavor, do every occasion, to fulfil the duties of friendship.’ But precisely at the time when this mild, and candid, and gently expostulary epistle was despatched for St. Petersburg, another state paper was issued, addressed by the Sultan to his own subjects-this was the Hatti Sheriff of the 20th of December, sent to the Pashas of all the provinces, calling on all the faithful Mussulmen of the empire to come forth and 'fight for their religion, and their country, against the infidel despisers of the Prophet. The comparison of these two documents with each other, will afford the most perfect illustration of the Ottoman faith, as well as of their temper towards Russia.
The Hatti Sheriff commenced with the following admirable commentary upon the friendly profession, which introduced the letter to count Nesselrode. ‘It is well known (said the Sultan) to almost every person, that if the Mussulmen naturally hate the infidels, the infidels, on then part, are the enemies of the Mussulmen : that Russia, more especially, bears a particular hatred to Islamism, and that she is the principal enemy of the Sublime Porte.’
This appeal to the natural hatred of the Mussulmen towards the infidels, is in just accordance with the precepts of the Koran. The document does not attempt to disguise it, nor even pretend that the enmity of those whom it styles the infidels, is any other than the necessary consequence of the hatred borne by the Mussulmen to them—the paragraph itself, is a forcible example of the contrasted character of the two religions. The fundamental doctrine of the christian religion, is the extirpation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of it, even towards enemies. There is no denomination of christians, which denies or misunderstands this doctrine. All understand it alike—all acknowledge its obligations ; and however imperfectly, in the purposes of Divine Providence, its efficacy has been shown in the practice of christians, it has not been wholly inoperative upon them. Its effect has been upon the manners of nations. It has mitigated the horrors of war – it has softened the features of slavery – it has humanized the intercourse of social life. The unqualified acknowledgement of a duty does not, indeed, suffice to insure its performance. Hatred is yet a passion, but too powerful upon the hearts of christians. Yet they cannot indulge it, except by the sacrifice of their principles, and the conscious violation of their duties. No state paper from a Christian hand, could, without trampling the precepts of its Lord and Master, have commenced by an open proclamation of hatred to any portion of the human race. The Ottoman lays it down as the foundation of his discourse. [p. 299-300]
“The last appeal of the Sultan to the fanaticism of his people, and to the protection of his prophet, has been vain. He told them, that since the happy time of their great prophet, the faithful Mussulmen had never taken into consideration the numbers of the infidels. He reminded them, too truly reminded them, how often they had put millions of Christians to the sword; how many states and provinces they had thus conquered, sword in hand.” 9 [p. 302]
“[More from the Ottoman Sultan’s pronouncement to his subjects]...‘all infidels are but one nation…This war must be considered purely a religious and national war. Let all the faithful, rich or poor, great or little, know, that to fight is a duty with us; let them then refrain from thinking of arrears, or of pay of any kind; far from such considerations, let us sacrifice our property and our persons; let us execute zealously the duties which the honor of Islamism imposes on us – let us unite our efforts, and labor, body and soul, for the support of religion, until the day of judgement. Mussulmen have no other means of working out salvation in this world and the next.’”
Those provinces are the abode of ten millions of human beings, two thirds of whom are Christians, groaning under the intolerable oppression of less than three millions of Turks. Those provinces are in some of the fairest regions of the earth. They were Christian countries, subdued during the conquering period of the Mahometan imposture, by the ruthless scymetar of the Ottoman race; and under their iron yoke, have been gradually dwindling in population, and sinking into barbarism. The time of their redemption is at hand.” [p. 303]
“With regard to the Hatti Sheriff of the 20th of December, summoning the whole Ottoman nation to arms against Russia, the sultan now thinks proper to say, that it was only a proclamation which the Sublime Porte, for certain reasons, circulated in its states; an internal transaction, of which the Sublime Porte alone knows the motives, and that the language held by a government to its own subjects cannot b a ground for another government to pick a quarrel with it – especially, as the Grand Vizier had, immediately after the departure of the Russian envoy, written a letter to the prime minister of Russia, declaring the desire of the Sublime Porte till to maintain peace. That if Russia had conceived suspicions, from the Sultan’s address to his subjects, she might have applied amicably to the Porte to ascertain the truth and clear up her doubts.” [p. 311]
HMMM!! OH MY!! MUCH MORE TO THE STORY LOOK IT UP MAYBE IT IS TIME TO FINISH THIS FIGHT??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their EVIL Amen
While we discuss the atrocities that Moslems commit in the name of Mohammadanism today,whitequeen, like all Moslems, are stuck on a few atrocities committed over hundreds of years ago and by people who have long been dead.
Somehow this Moslem believes that Islam has committed less atrocities over the course of history, what she fells to realize is that Moslems are taught a inaccurate history, in which they are never portrayed as the villain.
whitequeen, this standard that you try so desperately to hold America up to,
Islam couldn’t even stand in the shadow of this standard or even a standard that is equal to one quarter of yours.
America = 200 years of slavery.
Mohammadanism = 1500 years of slavery.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/slavery.htm
whitequeen I was under the impression that Islam forbid the use of mind altering drugs?Did you find a loop hole?
********SMOKE AND MIRRORS*************************
Look the sky is falling and while you look up BAM you get hit.
Catherine:
That was an awesome array you put together and man-o-man what a rebuke.
THE ESSENCE OF THIS DOCTRINE IS, TO EXALT THE SPIRITUAL OVER THE BRUTAL PART OF HIS NATURE." (Adam's capital letters)
Back to the basics of simplicity.
whitequeeen-
I've been wondering why you picked a name which means an elderly caucasian male pedophile, but then, since your prophet was one, why am I surprised.
The only difference is, he preyed on a little girl of 6 named Aisha. (And raped her at age 9.) While modern 'white queens' usually go after little boys.
But thanks for clueing us in to your tastes.
Your historical litany of crimes by the West are considered the shame of the West. They are taught inour schools as such.
While the crimes of Islam are their highest goal. And greatest pride.
They have no shame.
George Washington freed his slaves. (Circa 1799.)
When will Islam?
Whitequeen - perhaps you are unaware of - or choose to ignore - the historical fact that slavery could never have gotten off the ground if
black African chieftains had not been so eager to sell their own people, in exchange for trade goods or guns. Not to mention the numbers of captive tribal enemies sold into slavery by the same chieftains.
King Gezo of Dahomey earned hundreds of British punds sterling from his supply of black Africans to the slavers - he was only one among many.
These facts are easily verifiable. You might also benefit by researching the role of Islam in slavery. Muslim Arabs were taking slaves from Africa long before the Europeans thought of it - and they are still doing it.
You might also reflect that Europeans, specifically the British and the Americans, were the first to outlaw slavery and finally put an end to it. Western civilisation is the first to outlaw slavery in the history of the world. The Muslims lag far behind, in both humanity and creativity.
First of all, Catherine shows a complete lack of scholarship in quoting bits and pieces without any context and without beginning to comprehend what is being said in some of these passages. So Catherine, don't go to all that trouble because your 'scholarship' has gaping holes in it.
Want to know about deception? How come Bush or Clinton never apologised for earlier US governments helping Saddam Hussein into power, and how come hardly anyone in the US has heard of this? Cover up? Deception? How come we don't often see those nice pictures of Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam Hussein's hand? How come nobody knows that Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait with US approval? What about Ronald Reagan's arms deals with Iran in the 1980s. OOPS! Perhaps he thought he was selling them perfume. What about the US's pressure on the United Arab Emirates to buy arms? What about Britain's supplying the Indonedian dictatorship with arms? What about the US's support for Central Asian Republics that practice torture and repression? What about the economic 'improvements' imposed on South American countries which have made their economies collapse?
If anybody has studied the so-called 'peaceful opening up' of Africa has clearly been reading Mickey Mouse books instead of history books. Arab Muslims were certainly involved in the slave trade, against the teachings of Islam, but Arabs only make up 20% of the entire Muslim population. Other Muslims include: the entire northern half of Africa, from Senegal to Somalia, Mauritious, China, Mexico etc. etc.
By the way, can anyone give me the answer: why is Islam one of the world's fastest growing religions?
And anyone who quotes an orientalist or Evangelist scholar talking on Islam - don't waste your time. You clearly have an agenda, which is not impartial scholarship.
Lesley Stahl interview with Albright on CBS television 1996
• Stahl:
‘We have heard that a half a million children have died ... is the price worth it?’
• Albright:
‘I think this is a very hard choice, but the price - we think the price is worth it.’
• UN Humanitarian Coordinator in Iraq Denis Halliday: ‘I am resigning because the policy of economic sanctions is totally bankrupt. We are in the process of destroying an entire society … I had been instructed to implement a policy that satisfies the definition of genocide: a deliberate policy that has effectively killed well over a million individuals, children and adults’.
http://uk.geocities.com/dstokes14/Eric/iraqppt.htm
Unocal on trial for Burma 'abuses'
The American oil giant Unocal must stand trial in California for alleged human rights abuses in Burma, a court has ruled.
A lawsuit, filed almost three years ago, accuses the company of allowing troops guarding one of its pipeline projects to rape, murder and enslave villagers.
The Los Angeles court rejected Unocal's request to have the case removed to Burma, where the alleged abuses took place, or to Bermuda, where the subsidiaries allegedly involved are registered.
A lawyer for Unocal - which is based in California - rejected the allegations and said that the company was considering whether to appeal immediately or to wait until after the trial, which is due to start 22 September.
'Specific knowledge'
Unocal is accused of being complicit in forced labour, rape and torture allegedly carried out by troops guarding the $1.2bn Yadana pipeline during its construction in the 1990s.
According to court documents, two of the firm's Bermuda-based subsidiaries were part of the consortium that planned and built the pipeline.
Unocal lawyers had argued that the case should be transferred to Burma or Bermuda.
"There is nothing about California involved in this case other than the parent companies that the plaintiff chose to sue being located in California. The parent companies did not invest in the project," Daniel Petrocelli, leading lawyer for the oil firm, said.
But, in documents released on Thursday, Los Angeles judge Victoria Chaney said: "Prior to its involvement in the pipeline project, Unocal had specific knowledge that the use of forced labour was likely and nevertheless chose to proceed."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3115515.stm
By the way Morgane, what makes you think I live in a Western country?
WHITEQUEEN: you say:
First of all, Catherine shows a complete lack of scholarship in quoting bits and pieces without any context and without beginning to comprehend what is being said in some of these passages. So Catherine, don't go to all that trouble because your 'scholarship' has gaping holes in it.
We are not rocket scientists either but that is the great thing about America you see; we are not perfect and do not pretend to be.
Catherine (the great) writes in a code known only to a select few, others try to decipher it but we know the code(those few) and we are not telling.
Also you reply to morgane about the following:
Nothing methinks, according to you Muslims are always Victims never Perpetrators.Why don't you ask yourself why it is that Islamic countries are invariably poor [without oil revenues from the West], violent and backward and why are you, yourself living in a Western country??
you said:By the way Morgane, what makes you think I live in a Western country?
Hmmmmm..... lets see now, you are apparently able to use internet, with your SCHOLARLY REMARKS i THINKS YOU BE EDUCATED, you are able to use your hands(thet are not cut off?),so yea you are in a western country.
Are you there legally?
what type work you doing and who for?
were you raised at the casle of alumet as a raisin?
AM YISRAEL CHAI
White Queen, where would you rather live; in America , as racist and oppressed as you say, or the militarized third world country you came from. Unless you came from Harvard. Americans have mad mistakes , but you are a hateful person
Juicealot, you don't know me, but I don't take offence at your remark.
I don't live in the US and I would not want to, thank you very much.
Clearly you have never actually BEEN to any Muslim countries, otherwise you would know that the internet does actually exist there, as do well-educated people (thank you for the compliment!)
I have a great proposal: why don't we try to follow the great Prophet Jesus (upon him be peace)'s teachings about loving one another?
Even though we are all arguing, I would like to express my love for all of you as my fellow human beings.
Incidentally I originally come from Britain in Western Europe (white Caucasian with Dutch Jewish ancestry) - although that could still be argued to be a militarized third world country,looking at its national health service and transport system.