All Muslims in Western countries peacefully accept pluralism and have no attachment to Sharia or violent jihad -- or so American Muslim advocacy groups would have us believe, on pain of being called "racist" or "Islamophobic." But alas, reality is different. A Muslim in Toronto recently posted this at the Islamic Forum bulletin boards (thanks to Jeff Lastname for the link):
Are you planning to participate in Jihad to do service to Allah's Religion?Tell us how you will go about doing this.
For me personally, I wanna get a basic job and save up money (About $35 grand CDN)...and go to Iran to get military training at the same time educating myself in deen and memorizing Quran. Because it's taqwa and niyyah that would get me accepted by Allah and assist me in Jihad. Then after completing the training in Iran I will go to Chechnya to assist the Mujahideen there.
Subsequent posters admonish this fellow not to speak so openly about his plans on the Internet. One tells him:
The Post-9/11 world is different. The different Western intelligence agencies are putting pressure on their respective muslim populations. They are out to stop people trying to go to jihad so you dont watn them to make your plans anymore difficult
The original poster, "MedinaMuniwara," makes his intentions quite clear:
Bro there is a need. The need to fight the oppressors. There are so many able muslims that can go for Jihad, if we just didnt intend and DID ......those Russians woulda been slaughtered by now.
A poster identifying himself as "Greek Cypriot" says to him:
Anyway, I don't have any problem with what you want to do - So long as you abide by the rules of Jihad (Don't kill innocents e.t.c.) and don't attack any Greeks. :)
MedinaMuniwara responds:
Greek: If there are any Greek-Russians in the occupation of Chechnya....I will have to kill them. lmao
He is contemptuous of the idea that unbelievers might see this discussion and disapprove:
Are u scared to fight? I hope not. You scared of being harrassed at skool cuz of ur deen [religion]? Was Bilal (ra) scared of being harrassed by Mushrikeen Makkah? He took boulders on his stomach ....this is #### compared to them. They just said "One God" and lost their lives.I cant believe why would anyone say "OHh look what the kuffar think of us..they think we are savages ...lets stop fighting.....they think we oppress women...lets get rid of the hijabs...n khimars....." thats total B-S!
What would a kuffar think if you told them Rasool (SAW) [that's the Muslim prophet Muhammad] had 12 wives? You know exactly what they would think. Would u stop saying it? No.
The discussion goes on for pages and contains much of interest. Greek Cypriot comes back later to tell the would-be mujahid:
THIS FORUM MUST BE MONITORED BY THE FBI OR SOME OTHER GROUP! Don't you realise how dangerous it is to post things like that? Don't you realise they will probably start reading all your mail, bugging your phones e.t.c?!!!
Or at least posting what you say on Jihad Watch.
Don't miss a revealing debate that is posted late in the thread. It is between a Sheikh Al-Albani (probably Imam Muhammad Naasir ud-Din Al-Albani (1914-1999), who taught for a time at the University of Medina in Saudi Arabia) and a jihadi. They are discussing whether a caliph is needed to declare jihad fard ayn -- that is, obligatory on all Muslims, as opposed to fard kifaya, which is an obligation from which one is released if another takes it up. The fact that this is debated at all is one indicates why jihadists worldwide are so anxious to reestablish the caliphate. If there were a caliph, these questions would not need to be raised.
Or as the kids would say, "R u ready 4 jihad?"
I wish not only the FBI but a contigent of old-fashioned,diagramming English teachers would monitor those forums.
I really hope that the FBI and the NSA are keeping track of these jihadis. There is a new agency also, I have forgotten the name.
Here's a link to a Jihad in Canada that saw 14 female students lose their lives to a Muslim that blamed educated females for all his problems.
His father also saw female a chattle,the Canadian media stays away from mentioning that he's a Muslim since Law-suits are now the strategy by which CAIR and other Islamic org.'s silence the media by proxy.
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-70-398-2237/disasters_tragedies/montreal_massacre/clip3
LOL Aside from learning grammar, these urchins need a good dose of reality to show them what the world is really like. I suggest reform school for starters, then a state prison or 3 or 4.
FBI monitoring sites like that. Ha! allah snackbar and whoop-ti-doooo. Those grubby little sites should drop off the face of the earth .. good riddance to bad rubbish. Ever wonder why muslm "children" spend so much time on the internet?
Personally I am all for sending these pathetic idiots off to jihad. Getting their wish and becoming a martyr in some god-forsaken valley somewhere in the Caucasus mountains sounds good to me. Especially if it means getting them out of Canada.
by the time youve won chechnya back, the media wouldve been able to stir up enough propaganda to provoke people to attack muslims on sight, in all reigons, what will you do then? run to all parts of the world?
posted by Lateralus63 (at Islamic forum)
We are working on this very project as you post Miss Lateralus63.
"Your grandchildren will be Crusaders and followers of El Cid and Charles "The Hammer" Martel"
Ha,ha these pathetic wannabe's Jihadis! By all means encourage them to go to wild, mountainous Chechyna[we don't want 'em in our countries] where they stand a good chance of being kidnapped and held for ransom [coming from the West] by their MUSLIM BUDDIES under command of one of many thugs known as WARLORDS! To hurry along ransom demands,
these Canadian Muslims can expect their ears or fingers [or both] to be amputated and sent to Mom and Dad. As these young fools don't speak English their chances of becoming expert in Chechen and Russian aren't good.Do they seriously expect the Russians to be WELCOMING and to marry a Russian woman?? Our little Jihadis will soon find that the Russians don't care if they beat them to death : the Russians aren't PC and won't take any notice of their howls for Human Rights or contact
Canadian Embassy... Note here that ethnic Chechnen population is steadily declining and our
Canadian Muslims on Jihad will be added to the list before they even get a chance to reproduce...
Off you go Boys and die for your wonderful Allah.
May God Bless Muslims for making 'em so danged stupid!
Sounds like a bunch of madrassa-educated young men on the way to meet their demon, I mean their 'allah'.
I can't access the site now. But we have it here at Jihadwatch.
What an idiot.
"For me personally, I wanna get a basic job and save up money (About $35 grand CDN)..."
This moron wants to save 35$ Canadian working a basic job.
Obviously he has no intention of being a jehadi since you can never save 35K Canadian with a basic job !
Looks like someone got scared. they now expect registration to view the forum.
Of course, i just signed up and can continue to read their trash.