Many Pilgrims Stone 'Devil' Bush in Haj Ritual

Fat lot of good that Qur'an reference in his Inaugural Address did him. From Reuters, with thanks to David:

MENA, Saudi Arabia (Reuters) - Haj pilgrims pelted stones at symbols of the devil on Friday, with many saying they were targeting President Bush and other world leaders seen as oppressing Muslims.

Last year, 250 people were crushed to death at Mena's Jamarat Bridge, but so far new measures by the Saudi authorities have averted any stampedes. This year, more than 2.5 million Muslims streamed into the area for the stoning, meant as an act of purification and rejection of temptation.

Saudi Arabia's King Fahd and Crown Prince Abdullah, in a joint speech, urged Muslims to shun terrorism which they said meant "warring against God and his Prophet," to follow Islam's teachings of moderation and forgiveness and to unite.

Many pilgrims said they were thinking of Bush and his allies while they were hurling pebbles at the site where the devil is said to have appeared to the biblical patriarch Abraham.

"Yes, the devil is Bush and that other one from Israel -- (Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon. And there's (British Prime Minister) Blair too," said Egyptian Tia'amah Mohammed.

"We throw the stones so we can vent our anger at them."

Many Muslims revile Bush for his perceived bias toward Israel and the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Anger at Sharon also runs deep over Israel's occupation of Palestinian land and Jerusalem, the site of one of Islam's holiest shrines.

British journalist Yvonne Ridley, who converted to Islam following her capture by the Taliban in 2001 in the buildup to the Afghan war, said: "During the stoning I couldn't help thinking of Bush, Blair and Sharon."

Syrian Ibrahim Hussein added: "I was throwing stones at the devil because through that we cleanse ourselves of sin. When throwing the stones you shouldn't be thinking of political issues, or Bush and Sharon -- that's for our prayers (against them)."

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Instead of throwing rocks, why don't they try soap and water?

Do these simis have any idea how mentally lacking they look to the world? What a bunch of morons.....Laughable idiotic rakes.

Seams that the Mulsum who was supposed to be at the Prayer service today didn't show up what could this mean??

Are they starting to show their true colors we can only hope If an enemy is in plan sight it makes it easier to Fight??

RV person shoots a Killer of a young Girl In TX killer made it to AZ and was shot when he tried to rob a RV!!

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victroy[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support thm Open the Worlds Eyes to their Evil Amen

"KISSING THE PROPHET"

Probably not as dramatic as stoning the devil.
However I do it every morning between 6.30 - 7.00 am.
Its amazing what a diet with the correct amount of fibre can achieve !

Regards

AI

"British journalist Yvonne Ridley, who converted to Islam following her capture by the Taliban in 2001 in the buildup to the Afghan war, said: "During the stoning I couldn't help thinking of Bush, Blair and Sharon."

Talk about a psychologically twisted excuse for a human being. Doubtless Ms Ridley also thinks the Taliban were big on advancing the rights of women.

Hi everybody. I hope you're all well. I am completely against the 9/11 attacks, but thought I should warn you that China is also on your list of enemies.

Beijing produces videos glorifying terrorist attacks on 'arrogant' US
By Damien McElroy

THE Chinese state-run propaganda machine is cashing in on the terror attacks in New York and Washington, producing books, films and video games glorifying the strikes as a humbling blow against an arrogant nation.

Video discs filled with lurid images along with dramatic opera music and even the theme from Jaws have flooded the nation's markets in the wake of the attacks.
Disc after disc bear the imprimatur of the Communist Party-controlled media. The most popular DVDs have been produced by the Xinhua information agency, Beijing Television and China Central Television.
Communist Party officials say President Jiang Zemin has obsessively watched and re-watched pictures of the aircraft crashing into the World Trade Centre. In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, workers at Beijing Television worked round-the-clock to produce a documentary they called Attack America.
Scenes from Hollywood films have been spliced between shots of the events of September 11, including footage from the 1998 remake of Godzilla, in which a monster destroys New York buildings.
As rescue workers pick through the rubble of the twin towers, the commentator proclaims that the city had reaped the consequences of decades of American bullying of weaker nations.
He said: "This is the America the whole world has wanted to see. Blood debts have been repaid in blood. America has bombed other countries and used its hegemony to deny the natural rights of others without paying the price. Who until now has dared to avenge the hurts inflicted by unaccountable Americans."
Officials at Beijing Television defended the video as an educational film that will meet market demand. A producer said: "There's this need for more information on world terrorism in the market, so we've got to meet it."
At the country's most respected bookstore, Xinhua Book Shop on Beijing's busiest shopping street, Wanfujing, crowds jockeyed around a table to buy discs. According to staff, thousands of copies of the video have been sold in the past month.
The shop assistant said: "Before people were interested in the movies but this is more compelling. What happened in New York could have happened in a movie but this is real life. It's better."
The many shops that stock pirated DVDs compiled in China and Hong Kong report that their most popular products are similar productions that use video graphics to show the United States suffering other damaging attacks on its tallest buildings and military installations.
On the unofficial films the commentary is even more callous: "Look at the panic in their faces as they wipe off the dust and crawl out of their strong buildings - now just a heap of rubble. We will never fear these people again, they have been shown to be soft-bellied paper tigers."
Elsewhere music shops are selling out of a bootleg version of the summer's top pop hit. The amended song implies that America deserves to suffer for its disregard for the point of view of countries weaker than itself.
The refrain says: "We guys are all Americans, our government is used to bullying people. We guys always have our hands on too much, this time our own people got hurt."

Bush needs to target his missiles at China too.

Whitequeen,

The aforementioned article was filed: 04/11/2001.

Do you have any "news" that is current?

Re:Whitequeen's China comments

This is a logic fallacy called "The Red Herring"

Remember everyone, don't feed the trolls.

If you want to know more about argument fallacies, here is a good site.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/index.html

Seams that the Mulsum...

Please don't do that. A mulsum is a drink, either honeyed wine or a very sweet mead.

OT

If anyone is interested, here is a link for a web version of a book called "A Rulebook For Arguments" I used to use it all the time. There is a printable .pdf file at this site as well. It gives a good basic overview of logical arguments and the most common fallacies.

Enjoy

http://www.hozien.com/mih/arg/main.htm

OT

The above link has some other, rather interesting pages on Islamic stuff to... however the rulebook for arguments is still worth a look......

RV person shoots a Killer of a young Girl In TX killer made it to AZ and was shot when he tried to rob a RV!!

Was a marine who was a convert to Islam???

the Deserter islamic marine who ran away Family says they don't know where he is but they were trying to raise money to make a movie about him??

Traitor’s

the protesters at the prade yesterday show arab favor??

Who are the Enemys of the USA??

Part of the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victory[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen

Food for thought??

U.S. Penalizes Chinese Firms for Iran Missile Aid
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, Jan. 18, 2005
WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration has quietly applied new sanctions against eight Chinese companies for helping Iran with its missile programs, a senior U.S. official said Tuesday.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed a report in The New York Times that said the State Department had served notice to the Chinese firms early this month. A North Korean company was also penalized. The official said the sanctions prohibit the companies from doing business in the United States, and ban them from obtaining licenses that allow them to export or obtain a patent for American technologies.
One of the companies was Norinco, China's biggest state-owned weapons maker. In May 2003, Washington sanctioned Norinco after accusing it of aiding Iran's long-range missile program. The company denied the accusation.


Got that covered!!

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Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Victory [FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen


PS
Buy American!!

PSS

Looks like they want help??
cause the mussi will let them die??
http://www.gov.il/FirstGov/FirstGovNewsEng/NewsItem_2005_1_16_11_42.htm
Israeli Aid Arrives in Sri Lanka and Indonesia
Last Modified at:16-Jan-2005
About three weeks after the natural disaster in Southeast Asia, an EL AL plane flew to Sri Lanka and Indonesia, carrying 85 tons of emergency aid materials, donated by Israeli organizations and companies.
The plane landed in Colombo, Sri Lanka, with equipment for emergency kitchens donated by the National Council for Voluntarism, Koach Latet, and the United Kibbutz Movement. The kitchens will provide hot meals for some 4,000 people a day. In addition, these organizations and Magen David Adom donated medical equipment to set up a mobile clinic. Along with that arrived another medical delegation specializing in trauma, which will give a week-long seminar to local professionals.
From Colombo, the plane continued to Indonesia, and unloaded there 75 tons of emergency materials, among them 16 tons of baby food, 20 tons of medicines, 30 tons of rice flour, water, sugar and grains, plastic sheeting and more, donated by various trade companies.
The local officials expressed their great appreciation for the Israeli aid, that will reach, amongst others, thousands of orphans who lost their families in the disaster

Great, so when throwing their pebbles, they're thinking of Bush.
What next, when doing their ritual blood sacrifice (one of those ROP requirements for the Haj the media doesn't like telling us about) they'll think of the NJ Coptic family????

"Yes, the devil is Bush and that other one from Israel -- (Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon. And there's (British Prime Minister) Blair too," said Egyptian Tia'amah Mohammed.

"We throw the stones so we can vent our anger at them."

and

"British journalist Yvonne Ridley, who converted to Islam following her capture by the Taliban in 2001 in the buildup to the Afghan war, said: "During the stoning I couldn't help thinking of Bush, Blair and Sharon."

Such nice people - let's give them foreign aid and invite them to our countries. The idiot Ridley deserves a good Saudi husband and a beating by the mutawa

Tomorrow's headline:

'Bush stoned during inauguration'

Better stoning a symbolic devil/Bush than a guilty rape victim

"Last year, 250 people were crushed to death at Mena's Jamarat Bridge, but so far new measures by the Saudi authorities have averted any stampedes. This year, more than 2.5 million Muslims streamed into the area for the stoning, meant as an act of purification and rejection of temptation."

Another really impressive statistic, courtesy of the world's fastest growing religion, whitequeen.

More spewings of Hate from the Religion of 'Pieces'. Guess all that stone throwing is practise for killing some poor woman accused of
'immorality.'
Best thing that could happen to Loud Mouthed Idiot Ridley is for her to be forced to witness a real life Stoning... By the way this believer in Human Rights thinks it's okay for Suicide Bombers to kill Jews. Although loudly trumpeting Socialist Policies [with George Galloway] in 'Respect Party' this dame needs a lot of cash to fund her expensive lifestyle and daughter Daisy's Private Posh School. Father of her daughter was in PLO and we know about their funding. As for 'Socialist George', am looking forward to expose on 'Oil For Food' links which are maintaining his luxurious lifestyle...

This is the woman who admits her reason for entering Afganistan in the first place was that she had run out of things to write about (Observer interview of 18 November 2001 http://observer.guardian.co.uk/2001review/story/0,1590,624363,00.html ) Who was indignant at the suggestion that the expedition was badly planned. And who bristled at the criticism that she was totally irresponsible to cause her mother and daughter such distress, particularly by her lies to them as to where she was.
She certainly seems to have given her career a boost - contract with Al Jazeera, speaking engagements at every islamic convention a-going...busy busy busy.....

Posted by: Granny Weatherwax at January 21, 2005 04:56 PM


wonder if they knew she had a child out of wedlock isn't that a death plenty by stoning??

May be we need to stop anyone who has a saudi stamp in their passport out of the USA as a Subspect as a Terrorist or a Terrorist Support if they are willing to stone the President of the USA??

As for this stupid woman not a suprize if she was sleepping with a Palli and had his child??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen

PS
dose the qu-ran have anyting about forgiving a woman who has a child out of wedlock?? Boy she just cursed all mussis on their haji in Saudi Arabi??

Catherine
I think not.
I rather get the impression that forgivness is not big in the Koran, especially for women who don't keep up with the moral virtue. Otherwise all those poor girls in Nigeria and Iran facing stoning once their babies are weaned would not be in such danger.

dose the qu-ran have anyting about forgiving a woman who has a child out of wedlock??

When you convert to islam, all your past sins, including murder, are forgiven.

Please don't do that. A mulsum is a drink, either honeyed wine or a very sweet mead.

Keep doing it Catherine, I love it!

I think Yvonne Ridley didn't last too long at al-jazeerah - wasn't she fired for reporting that she saw her boss shopping in M and S. Anyway, who ever heard of her before she was kidnapped - Granny Weatherax, correct me if I'm wrong - and as for that rag she worked for, the Sunday Express, owned by porn-merchant Richard Desmond.

It's her daughter I feel sorry for, at boarding school and parked with her grandmother during holidays while mother gads islamically around the world.

Setanta

Setanta
I like that! What was he buying in Marks? Smoked salmon?

No she was not well known and I get the impression she was heading nowhere fast.
The daughter sounds a nice kid, thankfully she does have her loving grandmother.

Posted by: Silvester at January 21, 2005 06:00 PM

Still think that all who went to saudi when she was there must be cursed because if she had a child out of wedlock dought she is keeping her leggs together what about her pali boy toy??

Part of the American Tribe
Spider Killer
Squirrel Hunter
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Evil Amen

PS
I think the Grandmother is the best place for the Child the Mother sounds off her rocker??

PSS
I hate mead!! and sweet wine is for sissys

Did anyone esle catch the "Bullsh*t" in the western media about the Hajj proving that Islam is the fastest growing religion on Earth.
The claim was that 500,000 more people attended the ritual than the previuos recorded high several years ago.The fact is that the Hajj is a "Once in a life" expected part of the five pillars of Islam( sorry,5 parts of the idolatry that focuses on cleaning the body and not the heart) and only shows the Muslims that hadn't done it yet and in no way reflects the conversion rate.
But when you consider the rise in Militant Islamic violence against all people that don't fit into their version of Islam,it appears that Muslims now fear the extremists and the Hajj will be insurance to help prove they are one of the "True" Muslims and not one of those "Bad" Muslims from that Mosque down the road from theirs.

I'd like to see proof of these claims since the rate at which Islamists are slaughter other Muslims seems to negate any growth,plus some Imams assert that you're born a Muslim so a Muslim couple with two kids would mean a 100 percent increase in their growth.
It's like the tripe about Aids,in the begining of the issue demands for funding were based on numbers so when the cases went from lets say
200 to 300 ,the Gay lobby claimed there was a crisis since there was a 50 percent increase.


If you were offered 50 percent of a million dollars or 10 percent of a billion dollars,which would you choose,the larger percent or the larger amount of dollars.

Damn!!!! They even abuse rocks.