"Or maybe you are an arm of the establishment that creates fictional characters like osama bin laden etc."

Robert:

Perhaps, like the King of Denmark, who wore a gold star during the Nazi occupation, you should wear the intended insult like a badge of honour/in solidarity with the unfairly maligned.

Dear Waterdragon52:

Most assuredly I do.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

https://www.nationalreview.com/preview/preview091602.asp
September 16, 2002, Issue
Do Christians Bleed?
By Rod Dreher
Laskar Jihad has killed as many as 10,000 Indonesian Christians, forcibly converted thousands more, and demolished hundreds of churches. Activists say the Jakarta regime has only sporadically shown an interest in protecting the nation's Christian minority, and some accuse elements of the government of sympathy with the jihadists. "I was in Indonesia when 9/11 happened," says my informant, a Christian human-rights activist. "I was crying in my heart for New York, but I'm telling you, 9/11 happened once in New York, but it's happening every day to Christian villages in Indonesia." Ann Buwalda, head of Jubilee Campaign USA, says that between 50,000 and 60,000 Christians are now concentrated in the Tentena region, disarmed and surrounded by Laskar Jihad encampments. A jihad assault is rumored to be coming any day. Says Buwalda, "In the event that the government continues to do nothing against Laskar Jihad, these Christians will be slaughtered."

ANOTHER THING THE PRESS DID NOT TELL PEOPLE THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO BRING THINGS LIKE THIS TO LIGHT!!

THE MULSUMS ARE USEING THE UN=LON TO CONTROL THE WORLD HAVE PUT FEAR IN PEOPLE WELL THERE ARE THOSE WHO STAND UP AND FIGHT AND NOT ALL ARE JEWS BUT FROM ALL FAITHS BECAUSE THIS IS AGAINST ALL FAITHS AND YES THOSE WITHOUT FAITH TOO!!

MAYBE THEY BLAME THE JEWS BECAUSE THIS HAS ALWAYS WORKED FOR THEM IN THE PAST??

THEY[MULSUMS] BLAME THE CHRISTIANS BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE STATMENTS LIKE THE NURDERED UNDER THE CRUSADES BECAUSE REALLY MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY AND DON'T WANT TO BE CALLED NAMES??

I WOULD RATHER BE CALLED A NAME THEN LOSE MY LIFE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A TRUCK COMMING DOWN THE ROAD TO RUN ME OVER!!

Glad to see some of the Lib posters starting to see the Black and White of this and the Gray area is becoming less Gray??

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Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen

"Or maybe you are an arm of the establishment that creates fictional characters like osama bin laden etc."

Let that be a lesson to all of you about the dangers of huffing lacquer.

"PROGRESSIVE MODERATE DEMOCRATIC MUSLIM NATIONS!"

Now there is an oxymoron.......

"Or maybe you are an arm of the establishment that creates fictional characters like osama bin laden etc."

Let that be a lesson to all of you about the dangers of huffing lacquer.

Posted by: Mike at January 18, 2005 04:54 PM

CRYING ROTHL

You get a Gold Star for the Day!!

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her Amen

Those comments sound like they were made by some posters at Liberty Forum. A forum that has been taken over by Muslims and (dhimmi's) antisemites.

One Christian Identity type over there even claimed that he was not an infidel, because he was not a trinitarian.

Other posters have had their pitiful brains washed by a "revert" who keeps claiming that the Qur'an is the only real source (which as you know is bad enough).

In a recent exchange an Honest Muslim told her that
indeed it is Muslim ideology that all lands once Muslim are forever Muslim (which includes her families Dalmatia). Incredibly she replied to this Muslim, "Where does it say that in the Qur'an?". Which is the thinking she picked up from this character I discussed above.

These people are self delusional and wilfully ignorant, they make pronouncements on Islam and choose not to read it's own "scripture" or totally ignore it when it is put in their face.

Here's a thread on Robert
Source is Jewish Tribal Review, which alleges Robert is a Jew.

You see being a Jew is the tactic on so called Liberty Forum to discredit anyone who makes honest statements about and exposes Islam.

Why is the USA giving aid to all of these Muslim countries. The muslims will never be grateful. You can love a reptile all you want, but it will never love you back.

I once heard a statistic that more Christians have died from persecution in the twentieth century than all other centuries combined.

The muslims want all non-muslims dead. How much government-sponsored persection of Christians is occuring worldwide:

http://www.persecution.org/newsite/index.php

Let the greedy sultans feed the hungry muslims.

FALLBACK POSITION OF THE INCURABLY PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIC:

Ah, but although not Jewish, Robert, Victor, and Paul have all obviously been seduced by the international Zionist conspiracy!

On Indonesia, it's amazing how many otherwise reasonably well-informed individuals have absolutely no clue as to the bloody history of the ongoing jihad there. A "progressive Asian democracy" indeed!

..."Indonesia and Malaysia are PROGRESSIVE MODERATE DEMOCRATIC MUSLIM NATIONS!"

Who knew? Thanks for the update. BTW, some of the other countries mentioned really are nasty pieces of work.

"Or maybe you are an arm of the establishment that creates fictional characters like osama bin laden etc."

"Religion has been used for CENTURIES by evil people for their own puposes. Osama Bin Laden is a bad person proably a by product of our intelligence agencies. Im sure he's still working for them."

This guy is confusing me....

So is Osama a 'fictional character' or is he an intelligence agent being used (by the United States) to propogate hatred and violence (against the United States) in the Muslem world??

Sorry, "progressive Asian MUSLIM democracy". And let's not forget the periodic pogroms organised by those progressive Muslims to keep those uppity ethnic Chinese in line -- homes and businesses burned to the ground, women raped, men beaten and murdered. A truly enlightened society.

ATTENTION HATE MAILERS:

The platform you are preaching from is that you know more than we do. You have no means of proving this. However, we here can demostrate that WE know more about this topic than you do.

Malaysia is a not a democracy at all, but a disguised dictatorship with an increasingly brutal Islamist leaning. We will go so far as to assert that Malaysia will never EVER become a viable democracy--at best it will only wear the mask of one while convincing the infidels it is something it isn't (democratic) in keeping with Qur'anic teachings that dececption is key jihad strategy. Malaysians therefore are trapped-- likely forever --in the brutal, theocratic and tyrannical horror that is Islam. There are a very few select individuals in Malaysia that may hold office and that is limited to those with ties to the military...and the Malaysian military is demonstrably pro-militant Islam. Notice how strongly anti-western Malaysian leaders always are...yet, the west is the birthplace of democracy, how odd that a supposedly progressive democracy would assail something that is so key to democracy and its survival. In addition, your view of 'progressive' is based on economic development. But economic development can be attained without regard for individual rights and freedom of choice. In addition, Mahathir the last and first Malaysian PM stated that Malaysian economic development should be diverted towards a holy war against the western with "anglo-saxons" being singkled out for externmination. It's in that infamous speech he gave in October 2003 before a World Islamic Convention that received such resonating accolades throughout the islamic world. Progressive to you apparently includes shrugging genocidal intentions off. How democratic!!!!

Indonesia again will never be a democracy. It like Malaysia wears a mask of democracy and participates actively in genocide,secretly building up an economic machine and military machine that it hopes one day will assist osama bin Laden and his tribe of vermin in murdering the world's 5.5 billion non-muslims (allahu akbar!!!). There is evidence for example that the massacres of madurese settlers in Kalimantan were set up by the Indonesian military as protocol for an invasion of the United States. How progressive! How democratic!!! On 9-11 millions of Indonesians celebrated the incineration of American bloodshedding! Allahu akbar!

We have the documentation hate-mailers. You can keep your hate.

Posted by: hindenburg at January 18, 2005 05:10 PM

I heard and heard about a concert to raise money for the Killer Wave and have not heard how much money thay raised??

Which tells me not much??

Guess the American People heard about them in Indonesia going after the Christian aid workers and don't want to pour good money after Bad??

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight and Courage to Victory[FREEDOM] to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen

Mr. Spencer:

Please realize that, for every uncouth failure who sends you hate email, there are hundreds of regular Americans who support what your efforts to expose the Islamist threat to the United States.

We owe you a big collective "thank you!" Please stay safe and continue your great work.

Excerpts from Amnesty International's 2004 Reports on Malaysia and Indonesia:

Malaysia:

"Opposition figures, journalists, students and other members of civil society had their rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly curtailed through the selective application of an array of restrictive laws. Reports of unlawful killings, torture and ill-treatment of criminal suspects by police continued."

Indonesia:

"The human rights situation deteriorated in some areas as the government resorted to increasingly repressive methods against independence movements. Increases in the number of cases of extrajudicial executions, "disappearances", arbitrary detention, torture, sexual violence, forced displacement and destruction of property were reported following the declaration of a military emergency to combat the armed independence movement in Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam (NAD) in May. Military operations against both armed and peaceful independence activists in Papua also resulted in human rights violations, including arbitrary detention and torture. Elsewhere, the police employed excessive force against protesters. At least 30 prisoners of conscience were sentenced to terms of imprisonment. Trials of prisoners of conscience and political prisoners did not meet international standards for fair trial and there were reports that some detainees were tortured. Efforts to hold perpetrators to account for human rights violations suffered a major setback as the trials of individuals charged with committing crimes against humanity in the Democratic Republic of Timor-Leste (formerly known as East Timor) ended without having delivered either truth or justice."

How "progressive"!

That's some rich stuff, Jonny.

"Jihad started with the Bible!"

ALL of islam plays the propaganda game.

This is why there is no such thing as a "moderate."

And it's not a TINY minority of extremists either:

"Adherents of militant Islam account for some 15-20 percent of the Muslim world..."

www.meforum.org/article/168

A really sad thing,
I have a very close friend who buys into all this garbage hook line and sinker....
Very intelligent yet DANGEROUSLY blinded and ignorant to the point where ,In our last "argument" I had to say ,"We shall never discuss anything about Islam again until you EDUCATE yourself about the tenants of Islam from an approved source.In a word ...READ THE QURAN!

nothing offered is viewed as more than C.I.A. propaganda.The ENTIRE Internet (except sites like Moveon.org ,Or BushFlash.com )Is ALL a LIE!
MichalMoore is a truthful soothsayer to this person.Truly amazing that there are many that think this way. And very saddening.He Is way to paranoid to voice his views anywhere( The black vans will come)But MANY MANY people are working their butts off in just this line of thinking to spread this kind of almost Pathological nonsense across the net .Often effectively blinding otherwise NORMAL people to the facts and real TRUTH that is Orwelled into a struggling corner
of clarity.
Evil is called good and good is called evil.

QUOTE:The loudspeaker wokeup and blared:Communism is GOOD!... Christianity is STUPID....BzzzzzComunisim is GOOD!...Christianity is STUPID!!!bzzzzz,Communism is GOOD.............This went on 24 -7 night and day for 8 months and 6 days ...then shortly before the tape was changed Perchenkov died in his sleep
I hope I go that way....my smallest toe on my left foot has turned black.........sad

Dr. Mr. Spencer,

I know for a FACT that "The Koran" ("No Ark", garbled into a nonsense anagram) was written by two date-wine pixillated Jewish brothers, named Mo and Hamm ben-Ad, who thought to play a colossal practical joke on their unwary bumpkin polytheistic Semitic cousins in the Arabian wastes. (There wasn't much else to do after you hobbled the camels for the night.)

It got out of hand, obviously, and the deeper they found themselves plunging into their made-up story, the more complicated it got for all involved, and eventually they hired an epileptic, henna-haired 'boy toy' of some rich camel-driver/ lady entrepreneur to 'front' for their cunning Jew hoax.

So you can write back to your Islamic detractors that: not only are their suspicions eerily well-founded (although off by 1300 years), but the character of "Mohammed" itself is a fictional creation of the great great (times fifteen) grandfathers of those who would later come up with another devious trick -called The Mossad ("Mo-is-sad", get it!?).

These Muslim guys emailing you are sharper than we ever knew!

I also have to say, as Charlie Chaplin did when someone called him a Jew:

"I don't have the privilege of being of that persuasion."

But some of my funniest friends are.

No joke.

As someone who goes on one muslim website to debate, anyway, I can attest as well to being called a "Jew" as an insult or an accusation when my relatively minor debating skills demolish the oppositions' logic. This occurs with some frequency. (Actually, technically speaking, "Nazi Jew" is the term more usually used for me, as if the two could somehow be synonymous). I'm not Jewish, but as Robert is, I'm extraordinarily flattered when someone calls me Jewish. =) I have a lot of respect for Jews and Judaism (honestly, could history kick them in the crotch with a cold boot just one more time? is that even possible now?) and I love it.

The problem of course is that some muslims do in fact see it that way: if you're arguing against islam, well you must be some kind of a Jew, and of course the Jews are evil. "No one else would ever refute the Prophet so (except evil enangelical Christians, ooooooh they're evil), thus you must be a Jew." In another example, Jew gets used pretty much interchangeably for Israeli there without a recognition of the potential political dimension. While only one or two individuals on the site do this, it's strange that there is never any condemnation of this by any of the other muslims there. NEVER. Is is safe to say it's ingrained in the character of islam? Maybe, maybe not. But there are threads of it in there (in fact, they seem quite prevalent), and it's something islam has to deal with. A friend of mine on there suggested that Islam may be a religion of refutation rather than postulation, and I'm tending to think he's right.

On an entirely different note, my respects to Robert for this truly excellent site and my apologies for not giving them previously.

Geoff

This is for average joe and nitwits like him.

Not all "liberals" are Islamophiles, once they are educated and learn what fascists they are, they begin to change their tune.

but nitwits like you, ensure that people who would be natural allies, stay on the other side of the fence.

I happen to be anti Neo Con, I like Bushwatch, MoveOn, and Michael Moore, in fact I saw F9-11, unlike the critics, and there were not errors of fact in the movie.

I am also extremely concerned that the Christian Right is turning this country into a knock off of Iran, only a Christian Theocracy.

That said and done, I am probably more aware, well read and educated on that form of fascism called Islam, in fact the reason this "Liberuhl" is an "Islamophobe" is precisely because Islam is a fascist cradle to grave ideology.

And this world doesn't need any more fascism, whatever it's guise (Muslim, Jewish, Christian or Hindu - which by the way is a problem that is not even discussed. Hindu Fascism in the form the RSS).

Reading List Suggestion:

Besides Roberts excellent books.
The Sword of the Prophet by Serge Trifkovic
Muhammad by Maxime Rodinson
The Qur'an any version (but they differ) but especially the 18th Century George Sales translation (from the French).
The Arab Mind by Raphael Patai
All Books by Sandra Mackey (Saudis, The Reckoning, The Iranians).
The Shi'is of Iraq, by Yitzak Nakash.
Secrets and LIes, Dilip Hiro
The Battle for Saudi Arabia, As'ad Abu Khalil

Meanwhile stop making enemies of "liberals", approach them differently and educate them, they can be educated.. I was, but unfortunately it seems that Republicans (conservatives) can't.

In my book, The Christian Right is just as big a threat to our secular democracy as the Muslims.

And a secular democracy it is, be careful for what you wish, break down the wall seperating church and state and your grandchildren will be pledging allegiance to "The Islamic Republic of America, one nation under Allah (swt), with Shari'a for all".

Do you want that? I certainly don't.

38 proven lies and distortions of fact in that movie, last I heard, giaour.

And I've been assaulted by leftist nitwits (pinheads would be a better term), who are insisting that neocons Invented Al-queda. Enough of your leftist takkyia (sp) bullshit. we get enough from kj.

This is for average joe and nitwits like him.

Not all "liberals" are Islamophiles, once they are educated and learn what fascists they are, they begin to change their tune.
Posted by: Giaour at January 18, 2005 08:31 PM

AvRageJoe is the JW'er

MY close FRIEND is the one blinded.
My poor misguided FRIEND is the one who sees MichalMoor as some sort of hero :(

And um..... isint it usually conservatives that are more often accused of being Islamophobes???....U can call me Islamophobe all day and i wont blink . I am WELL AWARE of the dangerous ideology that threatans this planet .

Some JW/DW faithfull go LONG periods witout posting . A usefull tool i have found is to google callsigns like

AvrageJoe

intentional misspeled for reasons i will not go into here Read closer and attempt to keep emotions in check before hammering at your poor defenseless keyboard.

Also a very usefull tool to use when posting angry at Islam is read this link and stay in line with the Jihad Watch mission.

http://jihadwatch.org/spencer/

Now read this again.....I apoligize if i was too obtuse for you, and thus gave the wrong impression. Thank you.

I have a very close friend who buys into all this garbage hook line and sinker....
Very intelligent yet DANGEROUSLY blinded and ignorant to the point where ,In our last "argument" I had to say ,"We shall never discuss anything about Islam again until you EDUCATE yourself about the tenants of Islam from an approved source.In a word ...READ THE QURAN!

WHOAH ! never mind!! giaour!! sheesh I was the one who misread ....HAAH . I was very subtle and gentle with this good friend for a long time.................I rebuffed time and time again , (i am somewhat liberal in MANY of my veiws )...........
Eventualy when mentioning ANYTHING about any Islamic fundamentilist threat it was responded to,NOT with any real argument but ONLY cries of "WELL WE ARE BOMBING THIER KIDS FOR OIL" and other such Shoutdowns so often used when one runs out of reasonable argument or facts........ Therefore it became clear that there was NO discussion to be had untill this person STUDIED the QIRAN,......................................

And so i say to you Apoligist, I shall not be kind or obfuscating with you...there is NO DISCUSSION untill YOU study the QURAN. thankyou and good day sir!

I am sorry if you did not understand the refence at the end of my first post to the reality of life in a communist re-education camp :(

Robert, I swear, you've been called a "Jew" more than any non-Jew I know. One of the writers asked why there was so much "hate" on this site. I'd like to ask why there's so much hate in their e-mails.

I'd consider these two e-mailers nothing more than a couple of Islam apologetic punk Jew haters. Simpleton jackasses who should grow a set and come join our discussions. I bet that fake e-mail address is already deleted.

We know that not all Muslims want to take over the world. We also know that there are Muslim nutjobs in the United States that do and they are to be gotten rid of.

C'mon, rakes and skinnys, don't send little faccia de'fica e-mails, there's plenty of room for you to join the party. Spencer's no imbecile. Don't you be. Jihad will be smashed. Savvy?

“I am also extremely concerned that the Christian Right is turning this country into a knock off of Iran, only a Christian Theocracy.”
Posted by: Giaour

Just curious but Do you have any proof of that, my friend?

Hey, did you thank Al Gore for me, this neo-con thinks the internet is a great thing.

Sheik Canuck wrote:
"PROGRESSIVE MODERATE DEMOCRATIC MUSLIM NATIONS!"

Now there is an oxymoron.......

Agreed! And they are also probably sincerely dedicated to tolerance of other religions and civil liberties for women and ethnic minorities too. What a joke!

The CIA invented Osama BL? Firstly, I don't see the logic in that. Secondly, the CIA is the biggest waste of money in human history. Never has one single government organization been so wrong, misinformed and counter-productive. They don't have the talent to invent something as big as Osama BL, although they did finance him and his merry band of butchers throughout the 1980's to go fight the Soviets. They also had the opportunity to arrest him when he was in North Africa; instead they sat back and casually watched as he went to Afghanistan. I know that might look like CIA collusion, but no, it was merely CIA incompetence.

Yes I know I'm pissing a few people off here, so let me tell you a story (just to illustrate my point)...

In 1888, Lieutenant Bower of the 17th Bengal Cavalry was told to go into the depths of Afghanistan and find a Muslim fanatic by the name of Dad Muhammad, who had killed a British official by the name of Dalgleish, (he had also killed Dalgleish's dog, who tried to defend him).

Armed with just a revolver and equipped with nothing more than a heavy purse and Muslim robes, Bower headed into the mountains.

Travelling largely at night, he roamed the country for two years, reaching as far as Russian and Chinese territory. He came across the largely unknown tragedy of sand-buried cities of the Kuchar and Bagur districts (the lost and forgotten centre of Buddhism) and he took the trouble of making careful scholastic notes of what he saw. Whilst in hiding, Lieutenant Bower also found the subterranean ruins of Mingoi, wherein he secured a bundle of ancient manuscripts that shed new light on that civilization (and are now called the Bower manuscripts).

The Muslim bigot was finally spotted in the bazaar at Samarkand. A ragged Lieutenant Bower presented his paperwork to the local ruler, who had his men arrest and lock up Dad Muhammed. He was later found in his cell, mysteriously: "hanged with his own belt". In 1900 a promoted Bower was sent to China, to put down a nationalist rebellion and help save Hong Kong. Having a shortage of white troops, and few resources, he raised the Chinese Wei-Hai-Wei army, who, commanded by Bower, fought under the Union Jack and were as "keen as mustard".

[Source = "In Abor Jungles" by A. Hamilton, 1912]

.......................

In short ONE MAN, one hundred years ago, armed with a side arm and a bag of gold, achieved more than the entire CIA has been able to do today - with the likes of Osama BL, and the Iraqi police. Compare also Bower's care for ancient history with the American negligence in protecting the Iraqi museum. (As the new rulers of Iraq they had a duty of care to safeguard some of humanity’s oldest relics.)

You don’t agree? Well then, tell me one major CIA success story! Just one! The Bay of Pigs? Protecting JFK? Vietnam? The Iranian hostage rescue? Iraq? 9/11? El Salvador? Chile? WMD’s in Iraq? They either fail at everything they do, or else they call something a "success" and then it comes back and bites America on the arse ten or twenty years later.

The CIA inventing something? Now that is crazy!

THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY

I have a new motto for them:

“Never in the course of human history has so little been achieved by so many.”

I wonder what that is in Latin?

Come on America – where is the spirit of 41? The Muslims are the new Nazis.
We need you. Get your act together!

Timbo-

But the C.I.A. did manage to cover up a lot of their mistakes for a long time. A knack, that.

And to dodge all responsibility for their recent catastrophic failures. That, too, is something.

And they'll tell you that they can't tell you all of their real sucesses (secrecy, you know).

Their m.o. has been to think a rabid dog who they 'raised' will cease being rabid when they no longer need it. VIZ- Osama, Castro, etc. And will be grateful for the 'cookies' (shoulder-fired missiles, guerilla training manuals, etc.).

Their historical sense, however, continues to amaze. Failing to advise Clinton to bond with Yeltsin, when the time was ripe in the mid-1990s, and unite the Russian and Western efforts against the gathering threat of global despotic Islam.

Which they appear not to understand, yet.

I think their letters would be better changed from C.I.A. to Z.Z.Z.

And I wish there were a few "Lt. Bowers" in the ranks today. But the type (educated, multi-talented, dogged and self-possessed) is as rare as
a sense of humor is among the Muslims.

We're on our own. Do your damnedest.

A new motto for The Company:

"The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history."
-Hegel.

A frightening madness is again overtaking the world....like the madness of the Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, and the French Revolution...
The ordinary man becomes mentally unhinged and thereby unwittingly abets the Jihadist cause (only later to be sacrificed as an infidel when the battle is done)...Thank God for those that maintain mental clarity and see the true "truth"...Sadly, there seem to be too few of these and too many of the former (the mentally unhinged)

Get thee hence to the weapons shop and avail thyself of thy Second Amendment Right. Otherwise, when Abdullah comes swaggering down the street with his AK, it will be too late.

To the propagators of Islam, anyone who exposes Islam's goal and the means to achieve that end (the end justifies the means) must be a Jew. Why? Because the Koran points to the Jews as the enemies of Islam. Again why? Because the Jews would not accept the hodgepodge of "a religion for the Arabs"--offered to them as predating their own.

This "All the world was Muslim at creation," is the convoluted illogic of thinking that can only be called Arabesque. What? "That appellation is racist!" the CAIRing subversive infiltrators in North America shriek out in horror. Call me "racist," "bigot," and of course "Jew" (Yahood, and what naturally follows, shout, "itbach al-Yahood!") if you will, my Islamic adversaries, but your fury only exposes your impotence--your inability to use reason to make your point.

Writhing in your unlimited hatred for all things un-Islamic, you know that you are fated to lose. You will lose as you have lost before because of the means you employ to achieve your desired end. Your end will be not what you desire because of the means you employ (the means you employ will justify your end). This is because in a war between lovers of life and lovers of death, each will achieve the object of their love Guess on what side are those who want to die while killing "infidels" to go from their self-produced hell-on-earth to an imaginary paradise?

Those who want to drag humanity back to the dark ages when ignorance held sway must, and will, be defeated. Why, when forces of nature decimate Muslim populations, the West rushes to bolster its enemies, to rebuild, such centers of jihad as mosques by minnie-minds, is beyond comprehension. On a last note, if all who are wise to the aims, lies, and arabesque thinking of Muslims are Jews, there would be a hell of a lot more Jews in the world than there are.

Timbo, the CIA admits that it is the most maligned, least appreciated covert agency in the world. They aren't entirely to blame for their failures. Congress must share some of the credit.
All huge government bureacracies are miserable failures but we continue to tolerate them, even create new ones (Homeland Security). I think HLS has compromised our security, not enhanced it. All we really needed to do was put a moratorium on immigration, esp. from third world slums, and protect our borders. That would have been too simple and of course, discriminatory. The New World Order wouldn't approve of sensible, self-defense and our sovereignty is living on borrowed time anyway. The U.N. can't wait to rewrite our laws.
If we cleaned out the State Department from top to bottom, Arab ass-kissing might end and maybe we could prevent the Saudis from totally buying up America (esp. our universities), building their filthy mosques, and importing radical Wahabbi clerics. All of the simple, logical steps were carefully avoided and nothing has really changed except at our airports, but weapons are still getting through security and flying has become a nightmare.
It's almost like some kind of sick game we're playing. Let's see how many avowed enemies of America we can allow to immigrate, let the F.B.I. spend countless man-hours and money watching them, and tell the public Islam is a religion of peace.
If not for muslims and Islam, we wouldn't have to change our entire way of life just to protect ourselves from the blessed religion of peace. Instead of kicking them out by the thousands, we're letting them in by the tens of thousands, even after 9-11! I'll never understand this fiasco, but at least the C.I.A. enjoys some success operating as a spy ring with diplomatic immunity. That's better than nothing and who knows, maybe it's true that we never hear of their successes, only their failures.
While we're fighting a fruitless battle to democratize the Middle East, the heathen muslims are multiplying like rats right here, with the goal of Islamicizing the U.S.! What unnecessary challenges we thrust upon ourselves!

Timbo, the CIA admits that it is the most maligned, least appreciated covert agency in the world. They aren't entirely to blame for their failures. Congress must share some of the credit.
All huge government bureacracies are miserable failures but we continue to tolerate them, even create new ones (Homeland Security). I think HLS has compromised our security, not enhanced it. All we really needed to do was put a moratorium on immigration, esp. from third world slums, and protect our borders. That would have been too simple and of course, discriminatory. The New World Order wouldn't approve of sensible, self-defense and our sovereignty is living on borrowed time anyway. The U.N. can't wait to rewrite our laws.
If we cleaned out the State Department from top to bottom, Arab ass-kissing might end and maybe we could prevent the Saudis from totally buying up America (esp. our universities), building their filthy mosques, and importing radical Wahabbi clerics. All of the simple, logical steps were carefully avoided and nothing has really changed except at our airports, but weapons are still getting through security and flying has become a nightmare.
It's almost like some kind of sick game we're playing. Let's see how many avowed enemies of America we can allow to immigrate, let the F.B.I. spend countless man-hours and money watching them, and tell the public Islam is a religion of peace.
If not for muslims and Islam, we wouldn't have to change our entire way of life just to protect ourselves from the blessed religion of peace. Instead of kicking them out by the thousands, we're letting them in by the tens of thousands, even after 9-11! I'll never understand this fiasco, but at least the C.I.A. enjoys some success operating as a spy ring with diplomatic immunity. That's better than nothing and who knows, maybe it's true that we never hear of their successes, only their failures.
While we're fighting a fruitless battle to democratize the Middle East, the heathen muslims are multiplying like rats right here, with the goal of Islamicizing the U.S.! What unnecessary challenges we thrust upon ourselves!

"Religion has been used for CENTURIES by evil people for their own
puposes."

er...yeah, like duh. Mr. Hate-mailer, you have just explained the whole concept of Islam in one sentence (pretty well done I must say). Let me explain. Muhammed (a very evil man) created the religion Islam for his own purposes. These "purposes" being the ability to make war on those who did not agree with him, to plunder these peoples possesions, to rape their women, to ensure absolute obediance to him etc. and then claim it was all justified, as the true God of all mankind reveled to him this was allowed/encoraged. Thus the evil Muhammed used (or should i say mis-used) the concept of Religion to further his own evil, perverted, selfish purposes, proving your point very well.

So you can see that even when you are trying to dismiss what we have to say, you just end up enforcing our point of view. I find that really funny.

"Lincoln described it best when he posed this question:" If you call a dogs tail a leg, how mant legs does he have? "Five", his audience would usually respond. "The correct answer", is four". CALLING A TAIL A LEG DOES DOES NOT A LEG MAKE.

And the Leftist media, academia and Especially the kj politicos in Washington, see nothing but extra legs.