I wrote in a recent column that the tsunami was likely to make Muslims in the afflicted areas think that it had come because they weren't Islamic enough, and thus lead to greater fervor and in due course to more jihad. Here is confirmation of this from Malaysia. "Seeing red over JAWI raid...," from the Malay Mail Online, with thanks to Nicolei:
POUNCED upon, abused and rounded up like juvenile delinquents, several Muslim youths have filed a complaint against officers of Pusat Agama Islam for the high-handed manner in which they were treated following a raid at a club in Kuala Lumpur recently...."Most of the time they just ogled us," said the female celebrity who, together with another friend, was wearing a tank top and jeans. "My friend shielded her chest with her handbag but was asked to lower it so that the ‘jury' could have a good look. She felt so humiliated as one of the officers commented on her nipples, suggesting that perhaps she might be feeling cold." Those deemed to be wearing sexy clothes had their pictures taken. A 22-year-old student who had metal piercings on her chin and belly button was asked by a JAWI officer if she also pierced her private parts. "The man remarked that it was because of people like her that God punished the world with the tsunami," the celebrity said. The women were only allowed out after some parents turned up and gave written guarantees that those charged would attend a court hearing at the Federal Territory Syariah Court in April.
Is Islamaphobia *spit* real? Here's a great article about this myth from Prospect Magazine with thanks to JohninLondon at LGF:
http://prospectmagazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=6679
Issue 107 / February 2005
Islamophobia myth
If there is a backlash against British Muslims, where is the evidence for it? Scaremongering about Islamophobia promotes a Muslim victim culture and allows some community leaders to inflame a sense of injury while suppressing internal debate. The new religious hatred law will make matters worse
Kenan Malik
Kenan Malik is a writer and broadcaster
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Ten years ago, no one had heard of Islamophobia. Now everyone from Muslim leaders to anti-racist activists to government ministers wants to convince us that Britain is in the grip of a major backlash against Islam.
But does Islamophobia exist? The trouble with the idea is that it confuses hatred of, and discrimination against, Muslims on the one hand with criticism of Islam on the other. The charge of "Islamophobia" is all too often used not to highlight racism but to silence critics of Islam, or even Muslims fighting for reform of their communities.
In reality, discrimination against Muslims is not as great as is often claimed. When making a film on Islamophobia for Channel 4, I discovered a huge gap between perception and reality. One issue is police harassment of Muslims. Last summer, the home office published figures that revealed a 300 per cent increase in the number of Asians being stopped and searched under Britain's anti-terror laws. Journalists, Muslim leaders and even the home office all shouted "Islamophobia." "The whole Muslim community is being targeted by the police," claimed Khalid Sofi of the Muslim Council of Britain.
The bald figure of a "300 per cent increase" suggested heavy-handed policing at the very least. But dig a little deeper and the figures show that just 3,000 Asians had been stopped and searched in the previous year under the Terrorism Act. Of these, probably half were Muslim. In other words, around 1,500 Muslims out of a population of at least 1.6m had been stopped under the terror laws—hardly a case of the police targeting every Muslim.
A total of 21,577 people from all backgrounds were stopped and searched under the terror laws. The majority—14,429—were white. Yet when I interviewed Iqbal Sacranie, general secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain, he insisted that "95-98 per cent of those stopped and searched under the anti-terror laws are Muslim." The real figure is 14 per cent (for Asians). However many times I showed him the true statistics, he refused to budge. His figures appear to have been simply plucked out of the sky.
There is disproportion in the treatment of Asians: they make up about 5 per cent of the population, but account for 14 per cent of those stopped under the Terrorism Act. Could this be because of anti-Muslim prejudice? Perhaps. But it is more likely to be because most anti-terror sweeps take place in areas—near Heathrow airport, for instance—where many Asians happen to live. Almost two thirds of terrorism stop and search operations took place in London, where Asians form 11 per cent of the population.
The claims of Islamophobia become even less credible if we consider all stop and searches. Only a tiny proportion of the 869,164 stop and searches in 2002-03 took place under the Terrorism Act. If there were widespread Islamophobia within the police force, we should expect to find Asians in disproportionate numbers in the overall figures. We don't. Asians are stopped and searched roughly in proportion to their population, if age structure is taken into account.
All these figures are in the public domain. Yet not one reputable journalist challenged the claim that Asians were being disproportionately stopped and searched. So pervasive is the acceptance of Islamophobia that no one even bothers to check if it is true.
In the debate about stop and search, there is objective data against which to check claims about Islamophobia. For physical attacks, however, the truth is harder to discern. The definition of a racist attack has changed radically over the past 20 years. These days everything from name-calling to brutal assaults is included in the figures. The problem is compounded by the fact that, following the MacPherson inquiry into the murder of Stephen Lawrence, the police are obliged to accept the victim's perception of an attack. If the victim believes it to be a racist attack, the police have to treat it as one, leading to a large subjective element in the reporting.
If statistics for racist attacks are difficult to compile, it is even more difficult to define an Islamophobic attack. Should we treat every attack on a Muslim as Islamophobic? If an Afghan taxi driver is assaulted, is this a racist attack, an Islamophobic incident or simply a case of random violence? Such uncertainty gives licence to peddle all sorts of claims about Islamophobia. According to Iqbal Sacranie, Muslims have never faced greater physical danger than they do now. The editor of the Muslim News, Ahmed Versi, similarly believes that, "After 11th September, we had the largest number of attacks ever on Muslims."
My personal experience and the statistics that do exist both challenge these claims. When I was growing up in the 1970s and 1980s, racism was vicious and often fatal. Stabbings and firebombings were routine in some parts of Britain. In May 1978, over 7,000 Bengalis marched from Whitechapel to Whitehall in protest at the murder of garment worker Altab Ali near Brick Lane—one of eight racist murders that year. In the decade that followed, there were at least another 49 such killings. For Muslims, the end of the 1980s—from the Rushdie affair to the first Gulf war—was particularly tough. I used to organise patrols on east London estates to protect Asian families from racist attacks.
Britain is a different place now—even for Muslims. There are still racist attacks. Early in December, three young Muslims were beaten up in Manchester by a 15-strong gang in what the police described as a "dreadful racial attack." Yet we have moved a long way from the 1970s and 1980s, and I get little sense of the intensity of racism that existed then.
What statistics are available lends weight to this personal perception. The EU was so concerned about attacks on Muslims in the aftermath of 9/11 that it commissioned a special report. In the four months following the attack on the World Trade Centre, the EU discovered around a dozen serious physical attacks on British Muslims. That is a dozen too many, but it does not amount to a climate of Islamophobia.
Even Muslim organisations that campaign against Islamophobia find it hard to make the case that attacks on Muslims are routine. The Islamic Human Rights Commission monitored 344 attacks on Muslims in the year after 11th September. Most were relatively minor incidents such as shoving or spitting.
For Muslim leaders, inflating the threat of Islamophobia helps consolidate their power base, both within their own communities and wider society. British Muslims have long looked with envy at the political power wielded by the Jewish community, and by the status accorded to the Board of Deputies of British Jews. One of the reasons for setting up the Muslim Council of Britain was to try to emulate the political success of the board. Muslim leaders talk about using Islamophobia in the same way that they perceive Jewish leaders to have exploited fears about antisemitism.
Exaggerating anti-Muslim prejudice is also useful for mainstream politicians, and especially for a Labour government that has faced such a political battering over the war on Iraq and its anti-terror laws. Being sensitive to Islamophobia allows them to reclaim some of the moral high ground. It also allows Labour politicians to pitch for the Muslim vote. Muslims may feel "betrayed" by the war on Iraq, trade minister Mike O'Brien wrote recently in the Muslim Weekly, but "the Labour government is trying to deliver an agenda that has shown consideration and respect for Muslims." According to O'Brien: "Iqbal Sacranie, the general secretary of the Muslim Council, asked Tony Blair to declare that the government would introduce a new law banning religious discrimination. Two weeks later, in his speech to the Labour party conference, Tony Blair promised that the next Labour government would ban religious discrimination. It was a major victory for the Muslim community in Britain."
Pretending that Muslims have never had it so bad might bolster community leaders and gain votes for politicians, but it does the rest of us, Muslim or non-Muslim, no favours at all. The more that ordinary Muslims come to believe that they are under constant attack, the more resentful, inward-looking and open to extremism they are likely to become.
In the course of making my documentary, I asked dozens of ordinary Muslims across the country about their experiences of Islamophobia. Everyone believed that police harassment was common, although no one had been stopped and searched. Everyone insisted that physical attacks were rife, though few had been attacked or knew anyone who had. What is being created here is a culture of victimhood in which "Islamophobia" has become a one-stop explanation for the many problems facing Muslims.
Consider the social problems which beset Muslim communities. Bangladeshis and Pakistanis, who make up almost two thirds of the Muslim population in this country, are more than twice as likely to be unemployed than whites; the average earnings of Muslim men are 68 per cent that of non-Muslim men; 65 per cent of Bangladeshis are semi-skilled manual workers compared with 23 per cent among other ethnic minorities and 15 per cent among white Britons; 54 per cent of Pakistani and Bangladeshi homes receive income support; in 2000, 30 per cent of Pakistani students gained five or more good GCSEs, compared with 50 per cent in the population as a whole. It has become common to blame all of this on Islamophobia. According to the Muslim News, "media reportage on Islam and Muslims has a huge impact on Muslim labour market performance."
Unemployment, poverty and poor educational achievement are not, however, new phenomena in Muslim communities in this country, and the causes are many and varied. Racism plays a role. But so does class. The social profile of Pakistanis and Bangladeshis is closer to that of Afro-Caribbeans than it is to Indians or Chinese. While the latter are often from middle-class backgrounds, most Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Afro-Caribbeans come from working-class or rural backgrounds.
Some also point the finger at cultural practices within some Muslim communities. "By and large," the journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown acknowledges, "the lowest achieving communities in this country are Muslim. When you talk to people about why this is happening, the one reason they give you, the only reason they give you, is Islamophobia." It is not an argument that Alibhai-Brown accepts. "It is not Islamophobia that makes parents take 14-year-old bright girls out of school to marry illiterate men."
Alibhai-Brown disagrees with me about the extent of Islamophobia, believing that it is a major force shaping Muslim lives. But, she adds, it has also become "a convenient label, a figleaf… and all too often Islamophobia is used to blackmail society."
What all this suggests is the need for a frank, open debate about Muslims and their relationship to wider British society. The likelihood of such a frank, open debate is, however, not very high. "Islamophobia" has become not just a description of anti-Muslim prejudice but also a prescription for what may or may not be said about Islam. Every year, the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) organises a mock awards ceremony for its "Islamophobe of the Year." Last year there were two British winners. One was Nick Griffin of the British National Party. The other was Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee. Toynbee's defence of secularism and women's rights, and criticism of Islam, was, the IHRC declared, unacceptable. Isn't it absurd, I asked Massoud Shadjareh of the IHRC, to equate a liberal anti-racist like Polly Toynbee with the leader of a neo-fascist party. Not at all, he replied. "We need to engage and discuss. But there's a limit to that." It is difficult to know what engagement and discussion could mean when leading Muslim figures are unable to distinguish between liberal criticism and neo-fascist attacks. It would be tempting to dismiss the IHRC as a fringe organisation. But it is not. It is a consultant body to the UN. Its work has been praised by the Commission for Racial Equality. More importantly, its principal argument—that in a plural society, free speech is limited by the need not to give offence to particular religious or cultural groups—has become widely accepted.
So the government is proposing new legislation to outlaw incitement to religious hatred. The serious and organised crime and police bill will make it an offence "to knowingly use words, behaviour or material that is threatening, abusive or insulting with the intention or likely effect that hatred will be stirred up against a group of people targeted because of their religious beliefs." Supporters of the law claim that it will extend to Muslims, and other faith groups, the same protection that racial groups already possess. Sikhs and Jews are protected by the Race Relations Act. The new law is designed to meet the Muslim concern that they have been left out.
But it is already an offence to incite religious hatred. The 1986 Public Order Act was amended in 1998 to include the offence of "religious aggravation." A person commits an offence if he "displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting, within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress." The offence "may be committed in a public or private place." Shortly after 9/11, Mark Norwood, a BNP member, was convicted under this law after he placed a poster in his window with a picture of the World Trade Centre in flames and the slogan "Islam out of Britain."
In any case, there is a fundamental difference between race and religion. You can't choose your skin colour; you can choose your beliefs. Religion is a set of beliefs. I can be hateful about other beliefs, such as conservatism or communism. So why can't I be hateful about religion too?
Some supporters of the law insist that it will continue to allow us to mock and criticise religions. But in practice the law could be a nightmare to enforce. Every Muslim leader I have spoken to wants to use the law to ban The Satanic Verses. Ahmed Versi, editor of the Muslim News, thinks that Margaret Thatcher should have been prosecuted for suggesting that after 11th September there had not been "enough condemnation of terrorism from Muslim priests."
Ten years ago, the Tory government rejected a similar law because ministers feared that it could be used to ban The Satanic Verses. Today, home office ministers and the director of public prosecutions assure everyone that this won't happen. "We will still be free to insult each other," the director of public prosecutions, Ken Macdonald, told me. This means many Muslims will not be satisfied. Having encouraged exaggerated fears about anti-Muslim prejudice, and led Muslims to believe that the new law has been designed to meet their concerns, ministers might find it difficult to dampen Muslim expectations. The current view of the courts is that any material that encourages public disorder can be seen as inciting racial or religious hatred. So the new law may establish an incentive to create public disorder as disgruntled groups attempt to censor what they regard as offensive. The scenes in Birmingham outside the Sikh play Behzti may be repeated many times.
In a sense, though, the flaws in the proposed law are irrelevant, because its real value is not practical but, in the words of the director of public prosecutions, "symbolic." The legislation sets out, not to provide legal remedy for a real problem, but to make a moral statement about what is and is not socially acceptable. The aim of the law is not to censor us, but to get us to censor ourselves.
The irony of this approach is that it undermines what is valuable about living in a diverse society. Diversity is important, not in itself, but because it allows us to expand our horizons, to compare different values, beliefs and lifestyles, and make judgements upon them. In other words, it allows us to engage in political dialogue and debate that can help to create more universal values and beliefs, and a collective language of citizenship. But it is just such dialogue and debate, and the making of such judgements, that contemporary multiculturalism attempts to suppress in the name of "tolerance" and "respect."
An arrestee said:"We are not questioning their duty if they felt that they had a responsibility to ensure that Muslims behave well at all times.
Me, me! Oooh, ooh, please me, sir. I'd like to question their duty.
"My friend shielded her chest with her handbag but was asked to lower it so that the ‘jury' could have a good look. She felt so humiliated as one of the officers commented on her nipples, suggesting that perhaps she might be feeling cold."
Hmmm...I guess if you want to be a defender of muslim fundi values you need to be a pervert as well. Maybe they think being perverts will get them into heaven where 72 virgins will allow them them to be even greater perverts. The image of such a heaven seems alot to me like a sexual assualt theme park.
P.S. since these perverts think not being islamic enough causes disasters maybe I should eat a pork sandwhich. Then hopefully a hurricane will appear, pick them up and dump them in a trashcan. Then again that wouldn't technically be a disaster.
Remeber the Yahoo at the CIC that siad all Israelis over 18 are valid targets for murder by suicide bombers,below is his latest rant and what's really sad is that a man like him can be on Earth for so long and yet be so stupid.
Here's the site for the whole article:
http://www.canadianislamiccongress.com/index.php
Here's his Tsunami tripe that fits right in with his twisted perception of reality,note how he continues to drag in Christians to use as examples,the man can't stay focused if his life depended on it. Too bad Muslims have to resort to boasting that Islam has slaughtered less people than other faiths.
Tirade De jour:
by Dr. Mohamed Elmasry -
The year 2004 ended on a very sombre note with the Dec. 26 Indian Ocean Tsunami disaster -- perhaps the worst of its kind in more than a century, and certainly the worst natural disaster of this new millennium. It is now known that some 153,000 are dead, thousands more are missing, while millions have been left homeless and jobless.
But who was really behind this tragedy? Was it a completely "natural" disaster??
Some will call it an "act of God" while others will blame the human element for at least part of the devastation. Here are the top six explanations, equally divided between God and humanity:
1. God wanted to punish Muslims because they do not believe that Jesus Christ is his Son.
2. God wanted to punish those tourists who travel to Thailand and other southeast Asian countries in order to have sex with children.
3. God wanted to see how generously human beings would reach out to help one another.
4. Human beings set off an undersea nuclear explosion which triggered the earthquake and hence the giant tidal wave.
5. Human experimenters were testing a powerful new secret weapon, able to cause massive eco-disasters, such as earthquakes and tidal waves, through remote control.
6. Human beings among the world's rich and powerful nations helped exacerbate a natural event into a massive catastrophe by neglecting to contribute to the installation of tsunami Early Warning Systems (EWS) for poor coastal villages of Southeast Asia and eastern Africa.
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As for the Islamophobia reference above in another posting,check out CAIR's soliciting for false victims of hate-crimes,they TELL Muslims to demand the Police report their hurt feelings as a hate-crime.
http://www.caircan.ca/rpt_hatact.php
BTW,here's what CAIR deems as a hate-crime and Islamophobia,the whole article can be seen
by searching the name Hamilton and then scroll down to this heading.
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Article:
Muslims call on officials to condemn mosque vandalism
Wednesday, July 14, 2004 5:35 pm
Hamilton mosque vandalized three times in two weeks
(Ottawa, Canada - 14/07/2004) - The Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-CAN) today called on local officials to condemn the recent vandalism of the Umar mosque in Hamilton, Ontario. CAIR-CAN also called on Hamilton police to treat the incident as a possible hate crime.
Recent reports indicate that vandals have thrown eggs at the mosque three times in the last two weeks. Two of the attacks occurred during prayers.
In a statement issued today, CAIR-CAN wrote:
"In Islam, mosques are not simply places of worship, they are also social and community centers.
"We need to hear a clear message from our officials that this type of hate activity will not be tolerated in Hamilton or in any other Canadian city. We are calling on Hamilton police to investigate this string of vandalism as possible hate crimes.
: Most Mosques are converted buildings and this happened while school was out for the summer,I doubt the punks knew it was a Mosque since Muslims like to disguise them as to blend in
and not arouse suspicion.
* Remember when the Churches in Iraq were being BOMBED by Muslims,CAIR stayed mute on the issue and insisted there was no proof Muslims were involved,they claimed inner warfare by Christians
may be the problem.*
NO ISLAM - KNOW A LIVE THEO VAN GOGH
I would be making airline reservations before April. If I had to appear before Federal Territory Syariah Court, and had body piercings, I would be more than a little worried about what these cretins would decide my punishment should be.
The rantings of these fanatics confirm everything we already know about this Stone Age Death Cult.
But what has happened to Malaysia this showcase of Muslim 'Democracy and Tolerance?' Increase of
Militant Jihadists in Asia ought to be worrying everybody
ATTENTION MALAYSIA;
The world wasn't 'punished' at all. Merely one region of it. Geological convulsions such as the tsunami actually benefit us as they enable the earth to continue its existence as a life-giving vessel. Don't put words into Al=lah's mouth. You don't know Al-lah personally and incidentally this could prove offensive in his eyes.You have absolutely no firsthand knowledge of Al-lah's present view of the world is--only suppositions based on secondhand scribings from a long-dead Saudi Arabian.
Infidel nations such as America were able to provide assistance that no Muslim country has ever been able to manage. Nor were they punished as you state. Muslims suffered proportionately FAR GRATER losses than the rest of the world did. Think about the implications of that before you make more idiotic statements that could actually prove blasphemous.
Malaysia, a place to avoid on a world tour--especially if you are Muslim. In any case, I would not want to waste a cent of my tourist money there.
The superstition cum lasciviousness exhibited by clerics and religious enforcement police--characteristics present in varying proportions in either of these two types of enforcers of "morality" in Malaysia (and Saudi Arabia, and . . . well name any Islamic wonderland)--is enough to make one recoil from the ideology that condones it.
Echoes of life under the Nazis where good "blood-Aryans" that did not buy into the program were "corrected" by enforcers resound. And who can forget the "re-education" of nonconformists under the various Communist regimes, still in vogue in such vacation spots as Cuba and in the remaining "People's Republics?"
Totalitarianism is totalitarianism, whether you call it an "ism" or mask it as a religion.
Malaysia, a place to avoid on a world tour--especially if you are Muslim. In any case, I would not want to waste a cent of my tourist money there.
The superstition cum lasciviousness exhibited by clerics and religious enforcement police--characteristics present in varying proportions in either of these two types of enforcers of "morality" in Malaysia (and Saudi Arabia, and . . . well name any Islamic wonderland)--is enough to make one recoil from the ideology that condones it.
Echoes of life under the Nazis where good "blood-Aryans" that did not buy into the program were "corrected" by enforcers resound. And who can forget the "re-education" of nonconformists under the various Communist regimes, still in vogue in such vacation spots as Cuba and in the remaining "People's Republics?"
Totalitarianism is totalitarianism, whether you call it an "ism" or mask it as a religion.
unicorns,
First, Malaysia is a tourist haven for Arabs, who love the bargains and their ability to lord it over the little dark-skinned secondary races (was the Holy Koran revealed to them, after all?). Nothing ruins retreating to a KFC like a herd of Arab women come-a-shopping and setting themselves upwind of you. For all their money, they've yet to avail themselves of deodorant.
For Westerners, hey, it's cheap, and a good way to waste a few days between Singapore and Thailand. You're safe unless you're smuggling drugs or wandering around the east coast, and Malays are by nature a decent people. Islam hasn't totally ruined them yet.