Down syndrome youth used as suicide bomber

From The Age, with thanks to Nicolei:

Amar was 19, but he had the mind of a four-year-old. This handicap didn't stop the insurgency's hard men as they strapped explosives to his chest and guided him to a voting centre in suburban Al-Askan.

And before yesterday's sunrise in Baghdad, his grieving parents loaded his broken remains on the roof of a taxi to lead a sorrowful procession to the holy city of Najaf. There, they gave him a ceremonial wash, shrouded him in white cotton and buried him next to the shrine of Imam Ali, the founder of their Shiite creed....

He had Down syndrome or, as the Iraqis say, he's a mongoli, and when his parents, Ahmed, 42, and Fatima, 40, went to vote with their two daughters Amar was left in the family home.

They presume that in their absence he set out to fill his day as he always did - wandering the streets of the neighbourhood until, usually, a friend or neighbour would bring him home around dusk....

"He was mindless, but he was mostly happy, laughing and playing with the children in the street. Now, his father is inconsolable; his mother cries all the time," the teacher said.

After voting at 7.30am, Amar's parents joined their extended family for a celebration that became a lunch of chicken and rice, soup and orange juice, at the home of a relative.

The sound of the explosion interrupted the party. But, the cousin said, it was assumed to be a mortar shell, a follow-up to the barrage across the city in the first hours of voting.

"Everyone was very happy and excited, but news came that a mongoli had been a bomber. Ahmed and Fatima became distressed and they raced home. They got neighbours to search and one of them identified Amar's head where it lay on the pavement and his body was broken into pieces.

"I have heard of them using dead people and donkeys and dogs to hide their bombs, but how could they do this to a boy like Amar?"

Apparently, Amar triggered the bomb before he got to the intended target. It exploded while he was crossing open ground.

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Life means nothing to jihadists. This kid was basically in a state of bliss.

Quoth the Dalek: "Exterminate!"

...that's all these jihadist scum are worth.

"the poor victim was so scared when ordered to walk to the searching point and began to walk back to the terrorists. In response the criminals pressed the button and blew up the poor victim almost half way between their position and the voting center's entrance".

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2005/02/new-techniques-of-resistance.html

One has to wonder when the local populace in Iraq will begin rise up wihtout fear against these beasts of satan? Using a down-syndrome child as a suicide bomber is the equivalent of using a 5 year old child to do their filthy work.

The end of islam will be the beginning of peace.

I guess they're running out of people to convince that blowing themselves up is a good thing. This should be seen as a good sign. Its unfortunate for the 19 yr old and his family, my condolences and prayers go to them in their suffering. Maybe some other "would-be" jihadists will see the light through the haze of their warped views now, after seeing one more example of the evil and wicked ways of these scumbags. Down with all Jihadists!!!

Posted by: freestar at February 3, 2005 12:13 PM

Which story is true do you think that the boy was kidnaped or he was picked up that day??

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2005/02/new-techniques-of-resistance.html
Wednesday, February 02, 2005
New techniques of the "resistance".
I strongly believe that terrorists are cowards but the cowardice you’re going to see in this story is just exceptional.
The suicide attack that was performed on an election center in one of Baghdad's districts (Baghdad Al-Jadeedah) last Sunday was performed using a kidnapped "Down Syndrome" patient.
Eye witnesses said (and I'm quoting one of my colleagues; a dentist who lives there) "the poor victim was so scared when ordered to walk to the searching point and began to walk back to the terrorists. In response the criminals pressed the button and blew up the poor victim almost half way between their position and the voting center's entrance".

I couldn't believe the news until I met another guy from that neighborhood who knows the family of the victim. The guy was reported missing 5 days prior to elections' day and the family were distributing posters that specified his descriptions and asking anyone who finds him to contact them.

When a relative of mine (who has a mental handicap due to an Rh conflict at birth) told me a month ago that a group of men in a car tried to kidnap him as he was standing in front of the institution he periodically visits to get medicine and support waiting for his brother; I thought that he was imagining the whole story.
He said that they tried to force him into the car telling him not to be afraid and that they're from the "mujahideen and not going to hurt him". My relative, despite his handicap was moved by his survival instinct and managed to run away.
After I heard the other story, I began to connect between the two stories and to consider my cousin's story as a true one that uncovered a new miserable war technique that can come only from the sickest minds.

What a huge difference there is between those who kidnap and use the mentally handicapped to perform their murders in cold blood and between the brave Iraqis who sacrificed their lives to protect their brethren. one story that is famous now in Iraq is about one brave Iraqi (A'adel Nasir) who saw a suspicious looking guy walking around a polling center in (Al- Hurriyah) district and soon the brave man realized that the suspicious guy was trying to commit a suicide attack; he ran towards him, wrestled him and knocked him down causing the bomb carried by the terrorist to explode, sacrificing his own life and saving the lives of the people standing in line at the gate of the voting center. It turned out later that the terrorist carried a Sudanese id.
Now, the school that hosted the voting center on the 30th carries the name of A'adel Nasir, as the Iraqi minister of education announced today.

The pathetic terrorists are breaking one world record after another in cowardice and insanity and this tells how bankrupt they're getting.


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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DEFEAT ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

This wicked act can be added to the many of these
morally bankcrupt Terrorists.One hopes that the Perpetrators are eventually brought to justice but maybe this is some hope...

Hmmm It seems that "knowalot" is on its medication today. G-ud 4 US.

stupid troll.

But didn't Michael Moore's Minutemen do this?

Just wait until the mainstream press runs with this story to show how cowardly and morally bankrupt the terrorists are (let's not hold our breaths for that to happen - it's much too easy to take cheap shots at the U.S.).

Can anyone offhand think of any other terrorists that have sunk so low - and I realize that, by definition, terrorists are about as low a life form as there is.

They did something like this to a kid in Palestine a while back, only he was saved. Islamic extremists are the epitome of spineless, filthy maggots in headscarves.

If only God would take their legs from them and make them crawl on their bellies like he did the serpant, we could walk by them and give them the daily stomping they've earned. Sub-human sludge.

It just boggles the mind doesn't it? Who in the west, even in their wildest imaginations would think they would use a Down-syndrome kid as a suicide bomber?

The people who did this are the very face of evil. They are for all practical purposes insane. For the sake of the human race Islam must be outlawed.

Any religion whose leaders, spiritual advisors and teachers produce "holy warriors" of this ilk is evil down to its core and isn't a religion at all.

Wake up Muslims! Wake up and cleanse yourselves of these vile influences and embrace life. Wake up before your cities, shrines, and mosques are reduced to ashes and your people in foreign countries detained. History will judge Islam and its followers very harshly for it's acts of barbarism that have inflamed an entire world.

f.g.

This pure soul could not be a suicide bomber. He is a murder victim. Hopefully, owing to the moratorium on cell phone usage during the voting process, the signal used to remotely detonate the bomb was acquired by U.S. military SIGINT and when it shows up again the perpetrators will be either captured or targeted for an HE ordinance delivery.

Looks like there are some simple-minded individuals here that may need sacrificing too eh Linda?????

Knowalot~ Eh. When you first came by you had a few things on your mind to talk about. We don't all make a great first impression, ya know? (take me, for example. I can barely see the screen at the moment) Keep on posting, you Do have a clue!

I don't think I have the words to express the depths of depravity of the ass-wipes that did this. But I did send what Omar (Iraq The Model) wrote to my son in Iraq.

The nice thing is that he is in the perfect position to deal with them. He is what is known as a "battlefield airman." His job is to get up close to these scumbags and guide a 500 lb. bomb down on top of them and send them to Allah and their 72 virgins!

This pure soul could not be a suicide bomber. He is a murder victim.
Posted by: DrMack


So right you are Sir, the mindset of these who would thwart freedom is sick. They stoop to anything to promote an agenda that knows no plurism.

Recently i've been mentioning how they are running out of people so they now must look for fodder to fill the void. I would venture to say what is happening is they have run out of idiots who would blow themselves up. Do you think they want to do it?hell no they dont.


Again; we are dealing with ignorant people who just wont get it:


Statistics


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63.8 Million Total Up 6% From Year Ending September 2002
By Christopher Lee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 18, 2003; Page A33

More people than ever in the United States reported participating in organized volunteer work over the last year, according to a federal report released yesterday.

About 63.8 million people did volunteer work in the year ending in September 2003, an increase of more than 6 percent from the 59.8 million from the year before, according to the report by the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics. The percentage of all people 16 and older who volunteered increased from 27.4 percent to 28.8 percent, the report found.

The report was based on a new supplement to the Current Population Survey, a monthly government survey of 60,000 households that focuses on employment trends among people 16 and older. Respondents were counted as volunteers only if they performed unpaid volunteer activities through an organization. Participants in the Peace Corps and AmeriCorps, two government-sponsored service programs that pay their members, were not included, for instance.
Although the new report offers statistics, it does not include an analysis explaining the increase in volunteerism.

John M. Bridgeland, director of the USA Freedom Corps, the Bush administration agency that operates a clearinghouse of volunteer service opportunities, attributed the increase to President Bush's emphasis on volunteerism after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

"The president really hoped in the aftermath of 9/11 that this was a unique moment in history," he said. "And the question was, 'Could we sustain this spirit of service and patriotism to help marshal the talents of citizens to meet our toughest needs?' Not only does it look like we are sustaining it, but we're increasing it."

Robert D. Putnam, professor of public policy at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government, said the overall rise in volunteerism was small. It is too soon to tell whether there are any long-term cultural changes afoot, he said. But Putnam, author of the book "Bowling Alone," which documented the decline of civic connections between Americans, said it may be significant that the report found volunteerism among teenagers increased from 26.9 percent to 29.5 percent.

"Late adolescence is the time, for political kinds of things, when we're most open to being influenced by our environment," he said. "Therefore, 9/11 was most likely to have had its effect on young people. . . . It would be a big deal if we could raise the level of civic engagement among young people. It's like making an investment and you get returns over the next 50 years. But you can't tell from just one year's numbers."

Among the survey findings were that 35- to 44-year-olds were the most likely to volunteer, with 34.7 percent of that group participating. The least likely were those in their early twenties (19.7 percent) and those 65 and older (23.7 percent).

However, senior citizens who volunteered devoted more time than volunteers in other age groups, the report found. Half of all volunteers 65 and older volunteered for at least 88 hours during the year, while the figure for all age groups was 52 hours.

The most common reasons for not volunteering were lack of time, medical problems and family responsibilities or child care problems, the report found.

© 2003 The Washington Post Company

YES THIS IS THE ENEMY WE FIGHT ONES WHO RAPE SCHOOL CHILDREN AND KILL THEM BLOW UP THE HANDICAP!!

THEY ARE PURE EVIL AND THEY WILL NOT STOP UNTL KILLED....


THANKS TO DRMARK!!

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0317_0001_ZS.html
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

317 U.S. 1
Ex Parte Quirin [n1]

Nos. 1-7CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Argued: July 29-30, 1942 --- Decided: July 31, 1942

1. A federal court may refuse to issue a writ of habeas corpus where the facts alleged in the petition, if proved, would not warrant discharge of the prisoner. P. 24. [p2]
2. Presentation to the District Court of the United States for the District of Columbia of a petition for habeas corpus was the institution of a suit, and denial by that court of leave to file the petition was a judicial determination of a case or controversy reviewable by appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia and in this Court by certiorari. P. 24.
3. The President's Proclamation of July 2, 1942, declaring that all persons who are citizens or subjects of, or who act under the direction of, any nation at war with the United States, and who during time of war enter the United States through coastal or boundary defenses, and are charged with committing or attempting to commit sabotage, espionage, hostile acts, or violations of the law of war, "shall be subject to the law of war and to the jurisdiction of military tribunals," does not bar accused persons from access to the civil courts for the purpose of determining the applicability of the Proclamation to the particular case; nor does the Proclamation, which in terms denied to such persons access to the courts, nor the enemy alienage of the accused, foreclose consideration by the civil courts of the contention that the Constitution and laws of the United States forbid their trial by military commission. P. 24.
4. In time of war between the United States and Germany, petitioners, wearing German military uniforms and carrying explosives, fuses, and incendiary and time devices, were landed from German submarines in the hours of darkness, at places on the Eastern seaboard of the United States. Thereupon they buried the uniforms and supplies, and proceeded, in civilian dress, to various places in the United States. All had received instructions in Germany from an officer of the German High Command to destroy war industries and war facilities in the United States, for which they or their relatives in Germany were to receive salary payments from the German Government. They also had been paid by the German Government during their course of training at a sabotage school, and had with them, when arrested, substantial amounts of United States currency, which had been handed to them by an officer of the German High Command, who had instructed them to wear their German uniforms while landing in the United States. Specification 1 of the charges on which they were placed on trial before a military commission charged that they,
being enemies of the United States and acting for . . . the German Reich, a belligerent enemy nation, secretly and covertly passed, in civilian dress, contrary to the law of war, through the military and naval lines and defenses of the United [p3] States . . . and went behind such lines, contrary to the law of war, in civilian dress . . . for the purpose of committing . . . hostile acts, and, in particular, to destroy certain war industries, war utilities and war materials within the United States.
Held:
(1) That the specification sufficiently charged an offense against the law of war which the President was authorized to order tried by a military commission; notwithstanding the fact that, ever since their arrest, the courts in the jurisdictions where they entered the country and where they were arrested and held for trial were open and functioning normally. Ex parte Milligan, 4 Wall. 2, distinguished. Pp. 21, 23, 36, 48.
(2) The President's Order of July 2, 1942, so far as it lays down the procedure to be followed on the trial before the Commission and on the review of its findings and sentence, and the procedure in fact followed by the Commission, were not in conflict with Articles of War 38, 43, 46, 50 1/2 and 70. P. 46.
(3) The petitioners were in lawful custody for trial by a military commission, and, upon petitions for writs of habeas corpus, did not show cause for their discharge. P. 47.
5. Articles 15, 38 and 46 of the Articles of War, enacted by Congress, recognize the "military commission" as an appropriate tribunal for the trial and punishment of offenses against the law of war not ordinarily tried by courts-martial. And by the Articles of War, especially Article 15, Congress has explicitly provided, so far as it may constitutionally do so, that military tribunals shall have jurisdiction to try offenses against the law of war in appropriate cases. Pp. 26-28.
6. Congress, in addition to making rules for the government of our Armed Forces, by the Articles of War has exercised its authority under Art. I, § 8, cl. 10 of the Constitution to define and punish offenses against the law of nations, of which the law of war is a part, by sanctioning, within constitutional limitations, the jurisdiction of military commissions to try persons for offenses which, according to the rules and precepts of the law of nations, and more particularly the law of war, are cognizable by such tribunals. And by Article of War 15, Congress has incorporated by reference, as within the jurisdiction of military commissions, all offenses which are defined as such by the law of war and which may constitutionally be included within that jurisdiction. Pp. 28, 30.
7. This Court has always recognized and applied the law of war as including that part of the law of nations which prescribes, for the [p4] conduct of war, the status, rights and duties of enemy nations as well as of enemy individuals. P. 27.
8. The offense charged in this case was an offense against the law of war, the trial of which by military commission had been authorized by Congress, and which the Constitution does not require to be tried by jury. Ex parte Milligan, 4 Wall. 2, distinguished. P. 45.
9. By the law of war, lawful combatants are subject to capture and detention as prisoners of war; unlawful combatants, in addition, are subject to trial and punishment by military tribunals for acts which render their belligerency unlawful. P. 30.
10. It has long been accepted practice by our military authorities to treat those who, during time of war, pass surreptitiously from enemy territory into our own, discarding their uniforms upon entry, for the commission of hostile acts involving destruction of life or property, as unlawful combatants punishable as such by military commission. This practice, accepted and followed by other governments, must be regarded as a rule or principle of the law of war recognized by this Government by its enactment of the Fifteenth Article of War. P. 35.
11. Citizens of the United States who associate themselves with the military arm of an enemy government, and with its aid, guidance and direction enter this country bent on hostile acts, are enemy belligerents within the meaning of the Hague Convention and the law of war. P. 37.
12. Even when committed by a citizen, the offense here charged is distinct from the crime of treason defined in Article III, § 3 of the Constitution, since the absence of uniform essential to one is irrelevant to the other. P. 38.
13. Article III, § 2, and the Fifth and Sixth Amendments of the Constitution did not extend the right to demand a jury to trials by military commission or require that offenses against the law of war, not triable by jury at common law, be tried only in civil courts. P. 38.
14. Section 2 of the Act of Congress of April 10, 1806, derived from the Resolution of the Continental Congress of August 21, 1776, and which imposed the death penalty on alien spies "according to the law and usage of nations, by sentence of a general court martial," was a contemporary construction of Article III, § 2 of the Constitution and of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments, as not foreclosing trial by military tribunals, without a jury, for offenses against the law of war [p5] committed by enemies not in or associated with our Armed Forces. It is a construction which has been followed since the founding of our government, and is now continued in the 82nd Article of War. Such a construction is entitled to great respect. P. 41.
15. Since violation of the law of war is adequately alleged in this case, the Court finds no occasion to consider the validity of other specifications based on the 81st and 82nd Article of War, or to construe those articles or decide upon their constitutionality a so construed. P. 46.
Leave to file petitions for habeas corpus in this Court denied. Orders of District Court (47 F.Supp. 431), affirmed.
The Court met in Special Term, on Wednesday, July 29, 1942, pursuant to a call by the Chief Justice having the approval of all the Associate Justices.
The Chief Justice announced that the Court had convened in Special Term in order that certain applications might be presented to it and argument be heard in respect thereto.
In response to an inquiry by the Chief Justice, the Attorney General stated that the Chief Justice's son, Major Lauson H. Stone, U.S.A. had, under orders, assisted defense counsel before the Military Commission, in the case relative to which the Special Term of the Court was called; but that Major Stone had had no connection with this proceeding before this Court. Therefore, said the Attorney General, counsel for all the respective parties in this proceeding joined in urging the Chief Justice to participate in the consideration and decision of the matters to be presented. Colonel Kenneth C. Royall, of counselor the petitioners, concurred in the statement and request of the Attorney General.
The applications, seven in number (ante, p. 1, n. 1), first took the form of petitions to this Court for leave to file petitions for writs of habeas corpus to secure the release of the petitioners from the custody of Brigadier General [p6] Albert L. Cox, U.S.A. Provost Marshal of the Military District of Washington, who, pursuant to orders, was holding them in that District for and during a trial before a Military Commission constituted by an Order of the President of the United States. During the course of the argument, the petitioners were permitted to file petitions for writs of certiorari, directed to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, to review, before judgment by that Court, orders then before it by appeal by which the District Court for the District of Columbia had denied applications for leave to file petitions for writs of habeas corpus.
After the argument, this Court delivered a Per Curiam Opinion, disposing of the cases (footnote, p. 18). A full opinion, which is the basis of this Report, was filed with the Clerk of the Court on October 29, 1942. [p18]
1. No. ___, Original, Ex parte Richard Quirin; No. ___, Original, Ex parte Herbert Hans Haupt; No. ___, Original, Ex parte Edward John Kerling; No. ___, Original, Ex parte Ernest Peter Burger; No. ___, Original, Ex parte Heinrich Harm Heinck; No. ___, Original, Ex parte Werner Thiel; and No. ___, Original, Ex parte Hermann Otto Neubauer.
2. No. 1, United States ex rel. Quirin v. Cox, Provost Marshal; No. 2, United States ex rel. Haupt v. Cox, Provost Marshal; No. 3, United States ex rel. Kerlin v. Cox, Provost Marshal; No. 4, United States ex rel. Burger v. Cox, Provost Marshal; No. 5, United States ex rel. Heinck v. Cox, Provost Marshal; No. 6, United States ex rel. Thiel v. Cox, Provost Marshal, and No. 7, United States ex rel. Neubauer v. Cox, Provost Marshal.
3. The following is the per curiam opinion filed July 31, 1942:
PER CURIAM.
In these causes, motions for leave to file petitions for habeas corpus were presented to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, which entered orders denying the motions. Motions for leave to file petitions for habeas corpus were then presented to this Court, and the merits of the applications were fully argued at the Special Term of Court convened on July 29, 1942. Counsel for petitioners subsequently filed a notice of appeal from the order of the District Court to the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, and they have perfected their appeals to that court. They have presented to this Court petitions for writs of certiorari before judgment of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 347(a). The petitions are granted. In accordance with the stipulation between counsel for petitioners and for the respondent, the papers filed and argument had in connection with the applications for leave to file petitions for habeas corpus are made applicable to the certiorari proceedings.
The Court has fully considered the questions raised in these cases and thoroughly argued at the bar, and has reached its conclusion upon them. It now announces its decision and enters its judgment in each case, in advance of the preparation of a full opinion, which necessarily will require a considerable period of time for its preparation and which, when prepared, will be filed with the Clerk.
The Court holds:
(1) That the charges preferred against petitioners on which they are being tried by military commission appointed by the order of the President of July 2, 1942, allege an offense or offenses which the President is authorized to order tried before a military commission.
(2) That the military commission was lawfully constituted.
(3) That petitioners are held in lawful custody for trial before the military commission, and have not shown cause for being discharged by writ of habeas corpus.
The motions for leave to file petitions for writs of habeas corpus are denied.
The orders of the District Court are affirmed. The mandates are directed to issue forthwith.
MR. JUSTICE MURPHY took no part in the consideration or decision of these cases.
4. Post, p. 18.


NOW THEY KNEW WE WERE AT WAR FOR OUR WAY OF LIFE!!!

DO WE??

SOME DO!!

BUT GANGS LIKE UCALU AND CAIR THINK THIS IS A GAME??

OR ARE THEY THE ENEMY??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength,Wisdom,Sight and Courage to Stay the Course to Defeat ALL islamic Terrorist and All who Support them Amen


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Piling insult on injury, this is one of the more outrageous acts committed by these people.

And to prove a point by those that are offended when checked at the border or at customs: if given a chance, anyone will be used in this manner. This includes paraplegics in wheelchairs, old ladies, women dressed as nuns or Muslim dress, clergy, etc. They will be coaxed through personal intimidation, threat toward a family member, trickery, or ideology.

Anyone and everyone will be used. Remember that infants and pregnant women were used in Vietnam and in other conflicts. Thus, all should be checked regardless of privacy or any other issue.

Looks like there are some simple-minded individuals here that may need sacrificing too eh Linda?????

Posted by: knowalot

KNOWALOT you silly, stupid, phallically challenged muslim male troll: Don't threaten me. Your so called "brethren" already tried this crap on another website, and I'm sure you feel quite emboldened with the deaths of the Coptic Christian family. Make no mistake... you will NOT get away with it here, and the FBI/DHS already has a bead on your IP. I'll leave the rest to their good judgment. You fell into my trap. So much for "intelligent" islamic males.
Regards,
"Linda"

hahahhahaaa you fool.

This is a new level of low. These people take great pride in the fact that we cannot really stop them. They are right. Decent people could never conceive of such a thing, so decent people are vulnerable. The only 'silver lining' of such a horrendous act is that it might be the alarm bell that wakes up some more people to reality.

I came across the story while following the live election reports and the media just happened
to be at that polling station,I posted a comment at JW and another regular JW user questioned the validity of the article.

Glad this item didn't fad away like some of the atrocities that Muslims adamantly deny as being connected to Islam.
I did forward the article to CAIR by way of the "email this story" feature and no doubt it wasn't even read or taken seriously, the silence from Hooper and his posse of yahoo's only help to prove that his claims of Islam meaning peace is just the veneer that gets used to fool non-Muslims so they don't see the real Islam hidden
behind it that you only learn about once they've hooked you in and the only way out is death as a apostate.

BTW,if CAIR and Hooper do make a public statement you can expect it to be this:


We are shocked and filled with sorrow that an innocent youth was exploited by people that did an un-Islamic act of violence,the Quran forbids
using Down-syndrome children for suicide-bombers
and those responsible are not "True" Muslims
following the teachings of the prophet Muhammed
that never harmed the innocent.

Blah blah,blah blah,blah blah blah blah.....

Hey Dougie,I mean Mr.Hooper,I'll mail you a quarter to call someone that gives a sh#t,cause I don't and about 99 percent of Americans fell the same as I do.


NO ISLAM - NO BITCHING AND WHINING

The claims that this is not 'true' Islam will be coming out real soon. They will also say that these Islamists have misunderstood Islam or hijacked Islam. How come I don't see an endless statements that someone has 'misunderstood' Buddhism for instance? Where are the videos of someone celebrating a brutal murder with cries of Ganesh is Great!!?? How come there is not a story every other day of some atrocity committed specifically in the name of some religion that has to be explained as a 'hijacking'. It's simple, no other religion has the core values that can even come close to being misconstrued into vile acts such as the murder of a Downs kid. Islam is the one and only.

Linda ur little rant makes me laugh, u r incorrect on all counts, except maybe the stupid part.lol I guess my earlier posts raised some ire in that hate-filled body of yours. As far as your comment saying that I must be "emboldened with the deaths.... family" well thats just another example of your ignorance, keep it up and you'll soon be at the same ignorance levels as the Islamists! LADEEDA! lol

Let me say outright "this a monstrosity of vile proportions and my heart & condolences go out to Ahmed and Fatima & the family". To use a human being in this manner is …the best word I can think of is "unislamic".

If this was truly “Islamic” then I need to leave. Honestly, these people cannot do this in the name of Islam, they do it in the name of terror, fear and barbarity.

I have been taught that Islam means to serve Allah and humanity, these people do neither.

Tger says “The claims that this is not 'true' Islam will be coming out real soon”.

Let me tell you, I have been a muslim for over 40 years and I don’t believe to know what the real Islam is…and I live & breate it everyday….I fail to see how you could?

Ummagamm says “Islam not only kills children but the mentally challenged as well. To all Muslims- and that includes you Naseem- I say this... You should all be ashamed of yourselve”s!!!

Umma, I am extremely sad & disgusted about this just like you, but why should I be ashamed?

I and nearly 6 billion othere muslims had NOTHING to do with this, I was thousands of miles away. However YOU should be ashamed of yourself. What you do is tarnish 6 billion people with the same brush, your thinking and people like Catherine and SusanP is now so polarised , biased and racist that nothing can bring you back to normality, in essence your brain is locked in reverse gear.

Nobody on this fine website will challenge you but someone has to tell you….don’t do it.

f.g. says “The people who did this are the very face of evil. They are for all practical purposes insane. “

Agreed completely.

“For the sake of the human race Islam must be outlawed.”

Now there you go again, spoiling a perfectly good response.

I generally think it is not a good idea to feed trolls so I won't address Nasseem directly. I would like to point out that he tries to negate my post by simply saying that he doesn't know how I could possibly know anything about Islam and then he simply does not answer my questions. A typical tactic.

I have lived with and worked with many fine Muslims who would absolutely condemn this act. I know that as humans the great majority of Muslims don't want to see an innocent Down's Syndrome kid get viciously murdered to further the Islamic Jihad, but the fact remains that it was an Islamic jihad that killed the kid. I will paste my previous post below and see if it will get answered in a less sneaky, deceptive manner.

The claims that this is not 'true' Islam will be coming out real soon. They will also say that these Islamists have misunderstood Islam or hijacked Islam. How come I don't see endless statements that someone has 'misunderstood' Buddhism for instance? Where are the videos of someone celebrating a brutal murder with cries of Ganesh is Great!!?? How come there is not a story every other day of some atrocity committed specifically in the name of some religion that has to be explained as a 'hijacking'. It's simple, no other religion has the core values that can even come close to being misconstrued into vile acts such as the murder of a Downs kid. Islam is the one and only.

Naseem - 6 billion Muslims?? Like most of your comments, this is an entirely fact-free statement.

6 billion is the approximate World population.

According to Muslim sources, the Muslim population is approx.
1.70 billion people.

Liberals and greenies take note. A nimcompoop proudly exclaimed that muslims are the fastest growing segment of the worlds population. This nattering amaturish propagandist posts outlandish numbers which are so easily debunked that it doesn't even pass the laugh test.

However, it is true that third world inhabitants are increasing due to the lower birth fatality rates and longer life expectancy (thanks to Western medicine).

Liberals and left wingers, this should be your focus of protest and critisim. This threat to our planet should be your concern. The exploding third world birth rates are causing all the pollution and consuming precious natural resources. Realize who the biggest threat is, (hint, it's not the government).

1. Worsening water scarcity stems in large part from increases in human demand. Water tables are dropping world wide.

2. Pollution in cities is the number one killer of young children because of respiratory diseases. Cities are growing at an alarming rate.

3. Worldwide, 800 million people are malnourished, and the number could grow significantly. Farming lands are suffering from soil erosion and desertification.

4. The poor are getting poorer due to competition for resources while governments are strained to keep up with them and economies fail.

5. The world's oceans are overfished and the coral reefs are dying

6. Humanity is rapidly changing the earth's atmosphere and thus its climate

7. Wild habitats that shelter endangered plants and animals are giving way to human activities and needs

8. Disease knows no borders, and crowding helps spread disease, and lack of education in reproductive health is a factor in the recent upsurge of infectious disease

9. Migration pressures are aggravated by rapid population growth

10. Civil conflict often emerges in societies where rapid population growth combines with environmental scarcity to undermine governments.


The FACTS. Islam represents only at best 22% of the worlds "religion" Christianity is the largest at 33% with all the others and non-religions making up the remaining 45%.

Let me tell you, I have been a muslim for over 40 years and I don’t believe to know what the real Islam is…and I live & breate it everyday….I fail to see how you could?

Ummagamm says “Islam not only kills children but the mentally challenged as well. To all Muslims- and that includes you Naseem- I say this... You should all be ashamed of yourselve”s!!!

Umma, I am extremely sad & disgusted about this just like you, but why should I be ashamed?

I and nearly 6 billion othere muslims had NOTHING to do with this, I was thousands of miles away. However YOU should be ashamed of yourself. What you do is tarnish 6 billion people with the same brush, your thinking and people like Catherine and SusanP is now so polarised , biased and racist that nothing can bring you back to normality, in essence your brain is locked in reverse gear.

Nobody on this fine website will challenge you but someone has to tell you….don’t do it.

f.g. says “The people who did this are the very face of evil. They are for all practical purposes insane. “

Agreed completely.

“For the sake of the human race Islam must be outlawed.”

Now there you go again, spoiling a perfectly good response.

Posted by: Naseem at February 4, 2005 04:52 AM


once again nasseem proves she is a stupid woman??

She says she has lived as a mulsum for 40 years and dose not understand it??

then she goes on to say now there are 6 billion other mulsums in the world ?? guess they have some bad math or some ailiens have come down and given rapid birth??

she forgot to deduct all those killed in bam what was it 30,000 and those who were killed in the killer wave240,000 and then she said that 100,000 in iraq so the numbers don't add up just like her claiming to be in paskistan more like Touson AZ

NO AGAIN SHE PROVES THAT SHE IS JUST A STUPID ANIMAL OH I MEAN WOMAN??

Qur’an 6:66
“The people reject this (Book) and call it a lie though it is the truth. Say: ‘I am not a warden over you.’ ...When you see men who meddle with Our Revelations, turn away, withdrawing from them. Satan makes you forget.


Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: ‘God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.’ But the Messiah only said: ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’

AND NOW WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO TO THEM IT IS KILL THEM?? YES VAN GOGH HAS OPEN THE EYES OF MANY MAY HE RIP!!

Qur’an 5:17 “Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, ‘The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.’”

Qur’an 5:51 “Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other.”


YES WE CAN SEE WHY YOU WOULD BE CONFUSSED??

RACISM:

Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”


NOW THAT CAN'T BE GOOD WITH ALL THE FREEDOM THEY HAVE IN THE USA??

Qur’an 4:43 “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.” [The Qur’an claims women are unclean and polluted—worse than dirt.]

OH?MY?

Tabari IX:113 “Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”

NOT TO MANY MULSUMS PAY ATTION TO THE SERVERLY PART ARE YOU SHUT UP IN A ROOM ??


NO NASSEEM NOT TO BRITE??

BUT SHE DOSE SPELL WELL??

AND WHEN F.G. TALKS ABOUT USEING THE HANDICAPED TO BLOW UP PEOPLE SHOULD BE ILLEGAL YOU SAY?

Now there you go again, spoiling a perfectly good response.

Posted by: Naseem at February 4, 2005 04:52 AM


SAD VERY SAD? I THINK OUR FRIEND IS LOOSEING IT...

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYSE TO THEIR EVIL AMEN

I'm always amazed at how self-professed "Good" Muslims attempt to promote the goodness of Islam by pointing out that Islam has slaughtered less people than other faiths.
In fact,they'll kill you for accusing islam as being a malevenant faith of war and oppression.


Sorry Naseem,you're better off keeping quite,after all,the the Bible states that "Even a fool can appear wise if they keep quite".

Third world countries, almost exclusively muslim, are the least environmentally conscious while at the same time practice the least amount of birth control. This combination is killing the planet.

Third world peoples slash and burn ancient forests and dump toxic pollutants into the air, streams and rivers.

Liberals point their fingers at the US but the US is the most environmentally regulated and it's people the most environmentally conscious anywhere to be found in the world.

The planet is under assault and it's from the third world, mostly muslim countries. They don't care about pollution or the greenhouse effect, on the contrary, they don't give it a second thought. It's hard to imagine why they keep producing more children and then blame the West when they can't feed or clothe them, it's bizarre to say the least.

It may be that the tsunamis and earthquakes that are happening in these lands are the result of the Earth thinning out the populations in these lands in an attempt at self preservation.

We need to help the planet, let nature run it's course. No more aid or help in the future to these lands when the Earth practices self defense.

cross, I have seen alot of stupid posts at this site, but yours takes the cake for now. YOU ARE #1 MORON OF THE YEAR!!!

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