Traditional Islamic law mandates death for those who leave Islam, and for non-Muslims who try to induce Muslims to leave Islam. That may have been a motive in the New Jersey murders -- and for those who don't believe that that sort of thing really happens, here is a story from Nigeria. From "Nigeria: Muslim Militants Target Expelled Christian Students," from Compass Direct, with thanks to JS:
February 3 (Compass) -- Muslim militants pronounced a death sentence on five Christian students expelled from public schools in November for conducting an evangelistic outreach.The families of two of the students, Miss Hanatu Haruna Alkali and Abraham Adamu Misal, were attacked on January 26 when militants went to their family homes in the state of Gombe in northern Nigeria intending to kill them.
A sister of Alkali, who asked not to be named, reported to Compass from Gombe that Muslim militants have attacked the house several times. Family members fear for their lives.
Family Held At Gun Point
Rev. Oludare Aliu, national coordinator of the students’ ministry of the Evangelical Church of West Africa (ECWA), confirmed the report. “Muslim militants went to Gombe to … kill Hannatu, but fortunately, she was not at home at the time. The family was held at gun point. Hannatu’s father happens to be a former military officer. He wrestled with the militants and was able to disarmed one of them who had a gun. While he was fighting them, one of the militants stabbed Hannatu’s mother with a knife. She has been treated for the wounds.” Alkali is now in hiding.
Well, you gotta give it to these islamonazis...they do seem to be winning. Despite all our western tendencies towards feeling intellectually and morally superior to these savages and our great 'strength through tolerance' hogwash, the stark truth is that islam is getting stronger by the day and these barbaric practices are an inherent part of that brute strength.
Just as brute strength had to be employed to get rid of Hitler's evil, islamoevil won't go away w/o a confrontation of brute forces. Like some wiseguy once said:
" To fight an animal, sometimes you've to become an animal."
Amen.
Hitler has returned. Only now he wears a headscarf.
voletti:
I love ya, buddy, but they are NOT winning. You're buying into the hype of the lamestream media. All this exposure is serving to help defeat their cause, not further it. Our victories are often undisclosed and even clandestine, but make no mistake about it, Enlightened Western Civilization SHALL prevail. Their actions will bring about their destruction, not triumph. Don't "gladden the heart of the ummah" for even a second by posting comments that will be copied to islamist and jihadist websites worldwide.
I'm totally with you on the brute strength issue, however.
There may come a time; hopefully in the near future, where leaders of the free world will have to step up to the plate and confront the realities of the tenants of Islam head on.
President Bush may find it a bit hard to make the statement that Islam is a "religion of peace". I understand why he says it, but I think already he must know that there is absolutely and uniquivically no truth to that statement by now.
Our new Secretary of State Dr.Condoleesa Rice recognizes that very clearly as she testified in front of the congressional hearings for her appointment to that position. She clearly understands the militancy of Islam and the
tenants of hate that perpetrate its followers.
She must know that those who try the direction of Jadidism or moderate positions are considered apostates by the fundamental thinking of muslims.
To define this totalitarian and fascist religion as a religion of peace is simply impossible to do for it gives no quarter to those who are not Muslim..
Politics played by Islamic Naziism is much like the brute force Hitler once portrayed. Islam has nothing to do with peace, only brute,totalitarian Jihad. To kill anyone just because they refuse to become muslim is cold blooded murder. The free world must first acknowledge the Islamic con games with truth. War is war. There are no rules. If Islamic terrorist hide in a mosque or hide war equipment in a mosque, expect that mosque to be bombed. If war equipment, or terrorists are hidden anywhere, expect that area to be bombed. It is not the responsibility of the free world to protect the innocent people in the mosques or any other area. That responsibility lies with the people of that country. The free world does all it can to protect the innocent. The innocent need to do all they can to protect themselves. It is time to put an end to Islamic terror and remove any politics in the way of our troops presently in action anywhere in the world.
Isn't there some way we can help them out with weapons or fighters who can strike back at the particular Muslim animals and put the fear of God back into these savages, like Kitchener's Maxim guns did the the Mahdi's horde in the Sudan?
That's the work of the stupidity being practise, otherwise stated, a summary of foolishness.
For everybody's information, this kind of plans has been going on for years in Northern Nigeria. I have families living there. if they tell you what they go through, many people in US,UK, Canada or other western countries will not believe it.
These Muslims go to long length to influence the goverment of their states in Northern Nigeria trying to force non-muslims to comply to being stupid (practicing Sharia).
Unfortunately, in the western countries they give these muslims upper hand under the pretext of being fair. From inception, islam has never being a fair religion.
Why do the developed countries have to be giving them hand in building this terrible network by allowing them into their countries?
Even in persecution, Jesus is Lord!
Written by,
Ayatollah Dase (SWT)
December 24, 2004
Christians in Indonesia to avoid churches at Xmas-time
More news from "moderate" Indonesia. From Straits Times, with thanks to Nicolei:
JAKARTA - FEARS of attacks by Islamic militants are forcing some Christians in Indonesia to abandon traditional churches in favour of more discreet and secure venues this Christmas.
December 24, 2004
Indonesia: Machete gang attacks preacher
Jihad against Christians continues in "moderate" Indonesia. From AAP, with thanks to Twostellas:
A CHRISTIAN preacher has been attacked and badly wounded by a machete-wielding gang on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi despite a massive security operation intended to curb sectarian blood-letting and terror attacks during Christmas.
THE NEXT NIGHT AN EARTHQUAKE OF 9.3 THEN THE NEXT DAY A KILLER WAVE??
KILLING HOW MANY MULSUMS NOW SOMETHING LIKE OVER 200,000
NOW TAKE THIS AS YOU WILL BUT GOD WILL NOT FIGHT THIS HOLE FIGHT FOR US !!
UNTIL THE PREACHERS START TEACHING WHAT IT IS THAT WAS SAID IN WHOLE WE WILL NOT WIN??
THE BIBLE IS NOT JUST ABOUT PEACE BUT A LARGE PART IS BEING LEFT OUT THE PART ABOUT DEFENDING OURSELFS!!
THERE IS EVIL IN THIS WORLD AND IT IS LOOSE?
WHEN??
Luke 22:36] Then he said to them,” But now, he who has a moneybag let him take it and like wise a knapsack and he who has no SWORD let him sell his garment and Buy one.
37] For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished to me and he was numbered with the transgressors”
NOW YOU WHO DON'T BELIVE IN GOD I DON'T CARE THEY WILL KILL YOU SO YOU HAD BETTER PICK THE SIDE YOU WANT TO FIGHT ON!!
THE SIDE OF THE USA WILL LET YOU LIVE PRETTY MUCH HOW YOU WANT WITH SHORT SKIRTS AND BEER AND WINE! AND THE MULSUM SIDE WILL NOT YOU PICK AND GET OFF THE FENCE AND STOP BITTING THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU !
THERE IS AN OLD SAYING IN THE SOUTH KICK AN OLD DOG AND PRETTY SOON HE WILL HE WILL TURN AND BITE YOU!
THIS OLD DOG IS WAKING UP FROM THE KICKING AND GETTING READY TO BITE!!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40167
AND HE LOST!!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003003.php
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PS
this crap is happening in the USA the MSM is just to much of cowards to report it LOOK at the Family in N.J. and the Man whos head was cut off ?? Now that is called a suicide??
Tks CGW.
I know.
'Twas a moment of anger that caused such a pessimistic outburst.
In the end the good guys will win. Till then we hang on and fight.
The people who delight in terror as an administration of justice shall be judged by God
in the manner they "judge" themselves.
Throughout the whole of the Bible it is written
that God endures unjust insults and is long suffering pleading all to come to His mercy.
The god of islam has no such mercy.
I have allways wondered that if the Koran is the
last testament to mankind then why are not the hebrew and christian scriptures included in the koran?The Christians have no problem including
the hebrew scriptures.
Can not the koran prove itself amongst the scriptures?
Voletti
We will win because islamists are fighting at the peak of their ability, while we ie most of the West, does not even know that there is a war on for the survival of our civilisation.
Sooner or later though, the proverbial "s" will hit the "f", and then there will be no arguments.
You also need a pepup talk from Catherine.
In the end the good guys will win. Till then we hang on and fight.
Posted by: voletti at February 4, 2005 03:58 PM
Gold Star for you today!!
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Can not the koran prove itself amongst the scriptures?
Posted by: keith czarny at February 4, 2005 04:57 PM
No it can not??
PEACE, ISLAM STYLE:
Bukhari:V9B84N59 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: “None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.” Whoever says this will save his property and his life from me.’”
Qur’an 8:58 “If you apprehend treachery from any group on the part of a people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them. The infidels should not think they can bypass (Islamic law or the punishment of Allah). Surely they cannot escape.”
Tabari VII:86 “Gabriel brought down the following verse to the Messenger: ‘If you apprehend treachery from any people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations).’ When Gabriel had finished delivering this verse, the Prophet said, ‘I fear the Banu Qaynuqa.’ It was on the basis of this verse that Muhammad advanced upon them.”
Tabari VII:158 “Judayy went to Abd Allah Ibn Ubayy to ask for support. He said, ‘I found him sitting among a number of his companions while the Prophet’s crier was calling men to arms. He said, ‘This is a clever trick of Muhammad’s.’ The Messenger of Allah besieged the Nadir Jews for fifteen days. In the end they made peace with him on the condition that the Prophet would not kill them and that their property and their coats of mail would be his.”
Tabari VII:159 “The Messenger of Allah besieged the Nadir for fifteen days until he had reduced them to a state of utter exhaustion, so that they would give him what he wanted. The terms in which the Prophet made peace with the Jews were: he would not shed their blood, he would expel them from their lands and settlements, providing for every three of them a camel and a water-skin.”
Tabari VII:159 “The Prophet fought them until he made peace with them on condition that they evacuated Yathrib. He expelled them to Syria but allowed them to keep what their camels could carry, except for their coats of mail and weapons.”
Qur’an 47:33 “Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace.”
Qur’an 9:3 “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”
Qur’an 97:5 “There is peace until the dawning of the day!”
Ishaq:515 “When the people of Fadak heard what had happened, they sent word to the Messenger, asking him to banish them and spare their lives, saying they too would leave him their property. When the people of Khaybar surrendered on these conditions, the survivors asked Muhammad to employ them on their farms for a half share of whatever they produced. They said, ‘We know more about farming [seeing that you are terrorists and all].’ So Muhammad made peace with them for a half share, provided that: ‘If we want to expel you, we may.’ He made a similar arrangement with Fadak. So Khaybar became the prey of the Muslims, while Fadak belonged exclusively to the Messenger of Allah, becoming his personal property, because the Muslims had not attacked its people with cavalry.”
Qur’an 9:3 “And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the Pilgrimage is that Allah and His Messenger dissolve treaty obligations with the Pagans.”
Tabari VIII:104 “Peace to whoever follows the right guidance! To proceed; Submit yourself, and you shall be safe.’”
Qur’an 49:9 “If two parties among the Believers fall into fighting, make peace: but if one becomes aggressive, then fight against the one that transgresses until it complies.”
Tabari VIII:142 “The Messenger made peace with them on condition that the Zoroastrians should be required to pay the jizyah tax [so onerous, it’s akin to economic suicide] that one should not marry their women.”
Qur’an 9:7 “How can there be a covenant between Allah and His Messenger and the disbelievers with whom you made a treaty near the sacred Mosque?” Qur’an 9:8 “How (can there be such a treaty), seeing that they get an advantage, the upper hand over you? They do not pay you respect, or honor you or the ties of kinship or covenant. With (good words from) their mouths they entice you [out negotiate you], but their hearts are averse to you.”
Qur’an 9:12 “If they violate their oaths and break treaties, taunting you for your Religion, then fight these specimens of faithlessness.”
Tabari VIII:163 “The Prophet said, ‘I think you will see Abu Sufyan [the leading Meccan merchant] come to strengthen the pact and extend the term.’” Ishaq:543 “Abu Sufyan went to Muhammad in Medina to affirm the peace treaty, but Muhammad refused to speak to him.” Tabari VIII:164 “Sufyan went to Abu Bakr and asked him to intercede, but he refused. When Sufyan asked Umar to help [avert war], he replied, ‘No way. By Allah, if I had only ant grubs, I would fight you with them! Ali said, ‘Woe to you, Sufyan. When the Messenger has determined a thing it is useless for anyone to talk to him.’”
Tabari VIII:165 “There is nothing that you can do to make peace with him.”
Tabari VIII:165 “When Abu Sufyan reported back to the Quraysh that Muhammad had given him no reply, they said, ‘Woe to you! By Allah, he did no more than play with you.’”
Ishaq:544 “Muhammad commanded the people to prepare for the foray [raid, incursion, sortie, attack, or assault]. The Messenger informed his troops that he was going to Mecca. He ordered them to prepare themselves and ready their equipment quickly. He said, ‘O Allah, keep spies and news from the Quraysh until we take them by surprise in their land.’”
Tabari VIII:182 “Allah had enabled Muhammad to take the persons of the Quraysh by force, giving him power over them so they were his booty. Their lives were now his spoil.”
Ishaq:552 “When the populace settled down, Muhammad went to the Ka’aba and compassed it seven times on his camel, touching the Black Stone with a stick. Then he went inside the Temple. There he found a dove made of wood. He broke it in his hands and threw it away.” [The first idol Muhammad broke was the international symbol of peace.]
Tabari IX:58 “When the Messenger reached Tabuk the governor of Aylah [a seaport at the north end of the Gulf of Aqabah] came to him, made a treaty, and agreed to pay the jizyah tax. The people of Jarba and Adhruh also offered to pay him the tax.”
Ishaq:607 “The Byzantines encountered the Messenger’s cavalry which was led by Khalid. Ukaydir was seized and his brother Hassan was killed. Muhammad spared his life and made peace with him on the condition that he pay the zakat tax.”
Tabari IX:79 “In this year the zakat was made obligatory, and the Messenger dispatched his agents to collect it. The verse was revealed: ‘Take the zakat from their wealth to purify them.’”
Ishaq:316 “In peace you are wild asses—rough and coarse. And in war you are like women wearing corsets. But I care not so long as my hand can grasp my trusty blade.”
Qur’an 8:61 “But if the enemy inclines toward peace, do you (also) incline to peace, and trust in Allah. Should they intend to deceive or cheat you, verily Allah suffices: He strengthened you with His aid and with Believers.” [The small print is real important. “Should they intend to deceive or cheat” is an open invitation to invoke 8:57 to 60. The first to interpret this surah said:]
Ishaq:326 “If they ask you for peace on the basis of Islam (submission), make peace on that basis. Be of one mind by His religion.”
Tabari VIII:17 “The Muslims and polytheists stayed in their positions for twenty nights with no fighting except for the shooting of arrows and the siege. When the trial became great for the people, the Messenger sent for the leaders of the Ghatafan [Meccan comrades]. He offered them a third of the date harvest of Medina on condition that they leave. The truce between the sides progressed to the point of drawing up a written document, but there was no witnessing or firm determination to make peace; it was only a matter of maneuvering.”
Ishaq:454 “Now that Allah has conferred Islam on us, and made us famous, shall we give them our property? By Allah, we will offer them only the sword until Allah judges between us.’ ‘As you wish,’ said Allah’s Messenger.”
Tabari VIII:100 “Abu Sufyan said, ‘We were merchants but the fighting between us and Muhammad has prevented us from journeying, so our wealth is depleted. [This is the purpose of terrorism.] Even after the truce with the Muslims, we fear that we still are not safe. [Muslims, continuing to plunder Meccan caravans, violated the treaty twenty times.]’”
Qur’an 4:90 “For those who join a group between you and whom there is a treaty, or (those who become) weary of fighting you, had Allah had willed, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. Therefore if they withdraw and wage not war, and send you (guarantees of) peace, then Allah has not given you a way (to war) against them.” [The purpose of terror is to cause people to become so “weary of fighting” they surrender.]
Qur’an 4:91 “You will find others who, while wishing to live in peace and being safe from you to gain the confidence of their people; thrown back to mischief headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and offer you peace besides restraining their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear sanction and authority.” [So if you wish to live in peace, but are perceived as being mischievous (i.e., non-Muslim), Allah has given his Jihad warriors “a clear sanction and authority to seize and kill” you.]
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WOW!! Good thing our guys have Israeli bullets to shoot those spiders?
Yes the people of the Book that mulsums fear so much, have the cure!!Of course they gave it to the USA and Freinds not the MULSUM TERRORIST who Follow YELLOW men??
reza we are still waiting for your claim that the YELLOW MAN UBL is going to come out of his cave?
What has it been now Tora-Bora? when was that lets see some time in 2002 yes them spiders are now dead!!!and how many mulsum terrorist were killed in falluja alone on 1 day it was what 1200 dead mulsum terrorist?
Seams that your friends are getting weak they are kidnapping French men?
The American People are Strong and so are All our Friends!!!!
Rudy! Rudy! Rudy! WOW what a great speach!!!!
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Posted by: Catherine at August 31, 2004 12:07 PM
AND NOW POOR POOR CODY WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOU IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE YOUR GPS KICKS IN!!!!
YES THEY HAVE MOVED FROM THE FRENCH TO GIJOE??
DOLLS??
I WOULD SAY WE ARE WINNING!!!
2 DOWN HOW MANY TO GO??
JUST ARM YOUSELF AND PREPARE FOR THE STORM AS HAS BEEN SAID BEFOR BY A GREAT MAN THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR BUT FEAR IT'S SELF!!
IF YOU DO THE HEAD COUNT YES WE LOST SOME BUT THEY LOST MANY!!
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PS
SHORT SKIRTS WORTH FIGHTING FOR
PSS
SEE THAT IN DUCTH LAND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE BALLS TO KEEP PICTURES IN THEIR MUSUEM DOES THIS MEAN THEY THINK OUR PHONE LINE FOR 9/11 IS STILL OPEN???
WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU BETTER GROW SOME BALLS I MEAN THEY ARE WILLING TO LET THE MUSSIS ARREST OUR SEC. OF DEFENCE SO I SAY FU-K EM