Report: Egypt failed to report nuclear tests

If I remember right, Mohammed El Baradai of the International Atomic Energy Agency is an Egyptian. Have we, after all, left a fox in charge of the chicken coop?

(If I am wrong and he is not, I apologize to Mr. El Baradai.)

He is quoted by a Lot of anti-war-on-terror websites, in regards to claiming Iraq not being able to produce nukes (not sure if they updated their sites since all those radioactive materials and uranium were hauled out of there). If that answers the question...

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Campus for carnage:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17078

12 step program:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17051

Terrorism targets muslims above all:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/cliffordmay/cm20050218.shtml

'Always Jihad Related, Truth never to be silenced'~ Gary

That reminds me, kj- is it your contention, then, that these articles I post, are all lies?
My primary reason for posting them is so people don't have to go quite as far to find other jihad-related materials. (and Yes, I am quite aware of all the links on the sidebar).

But this is obvious. Egypt will do whatever it can do to acquire such weaponry, and not, as it likes to insinuate, in order to deal with the "Libyan" threat, but to use, as Egypt has used its weaponry whenever it felt it had a chance to win before (in 1948, the attack on the new-born Israeli state; between 1949 and 1967, ore than 19,000 separate cross-border attacks by Egyptian fellahin, interrupted briefly by the Sinai campaign; in 1967, begining in mid-May, Egypt blocked the straits of Tiran, forced the U.N. buffer "peacekeepers" to leave the Sinai, whipped up Cairene crowds that hardly needed such whippiing, so full of blood-lust were they -- what a surprise when Israel managed to strike, at the last minute, in self-defense, first; in 1973, the coordinated sneak attack, with Syria; and the diplomatic, economic, and constant warfare short of military force that has been conducted ever since, in complete violation of the solemn commitments under the farcical "Camp David Accords" (farcical for what Israel got out of it, a regular Treaty of al-Hudaibiyyah as far as Egypt was concerned).

Why is Egypt, a world center of anti-Americanism (98% of Egyptians say they "hate America") and of course antisemitism (the television series based on The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was only one example), continuing to receive $2 billion a year from American taxpayers? Surely the temporary and transparent display of sweetness and light, which can be turned on every so often, and is now the son-et-lumiere display for the Israeli and American government tourists who need to be assured of good intentions so that the silly "plan" of Sharon, to remove every last vestige of a Jewish presence in the invasion-route of Gaza (Gaza itself was left by the Israeli military 11 yers ago, with the peaceful results among the local Arabs that we all see).

One would like to think that somewhere in the American government someone has made a summary, in brisk Warren-Buffett style, of Infidel transfers of wealth to Muslim lands: all of them, from whatever Infidel source, to whatever Muslim country, including the transfers of wealth based on the oligopolistic rents charged by OPEC (now $45/barrel for oil that costs at most $1/barrel to lift), and the enormous foreign aid that various Infidel countries have given, since 1973 alone, to Egypt, Jordan, Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Jordan, the "Palestinian Authority," and of course, the tens of billions in aid, and the hundreds of billions being spent, to bring Iraq "democracy" which, despite Scharansky's idealistic analysis, may be necessary but is hardly sufficient to render Iraq, much less the Middle East, a Peaceable Kingdom.

In Egypt, $2 billion a year goes to a country where antisemitism is whippped up constantly in the press and on television; Christians -- the direct descendants of the original Egyptians, long before the Arabs arrived bearing the "gift" of Islam, are persecuted; the suppliers of that $2 billion, which amounts so far to more than $60 billion in total aid, those Americans, are hated, not least because that the $2 billion in American aid is seen to prop up, and pay for, the vicious Egyptian elite, the family-and-friends plan that Mubarak has been using for the past quarter-century.

End aid to Egypt. It is a permanent menace to Israel, and a potential menace to black African Christianity, ultimatley in the southern Sudan and Ethiopia (where the headwaters of the Nile problem will within the decade be coming to a head).

Let the Egyptians stop persecuting and killing Copts. Let Egypt be "ridimensionato" -- i.e., cut down to size. Nasser was given ridiculous importance; Saint Sadat is dead, and his supposed sanctity, even if one took it at face value, had no effect on Egyptian government policies; Mubarak is a stratokleptocrat (head of the miltiary thieves who have had a good run, spending foreign aid on themselves, and on their pet science projects, such as the nuclear program described, no doubt because he is feeling the hot breath of the American government, by Mr. El Baradei, who does not inspire confidence, as both a loyal citizen of Egypt, a Muslim, and in personality, a cross between Mr. Bean and Casper Milquetoast.

Western governments cannot call back all the planes, and all the Stinger missiles, and all the other military hardware and software that was foolishly sold, or even more foolishly given, to Muslim countries hither and yon. All of that stuff, beginning with those Stinger missiles sent to Afghanistan, represents a threat to all Infidels (no, Mr. Chirac and Herr Schroeder, clicking your little heels, do not think such weaponrly will be used only on Israel, which in your view, crocodile tears and all, is completely expendable, but everywhere that Muslims clash with Infidels which, nowadays, thanks above all to the idiotic immigration policies of France and Germany, the two geniuses of Western geopolitics, is everywhere.

But they can end further Infidel-to-Muslimtransfers of money, and work to diminish OPEC revenues so that the Saudis have less to spread around for mosques and madrasas and bribes and public-relations campaigns, and have to spend a bit more time actually putting in an appearance of work.

Ending the jizya, whether it is foreign aid (why is the American government so petrified of offending the Mubarak or any other Muslim government? Why does it not simply cut off the aid now, which will be a way of announcing, but not in so many words -- let the figures do the talking -- that "wealth" is indeed, as the Muslims believe, a weapon, and there is no need to keep handing over weaponry to those who do not and cannot wish us well.

And as for that other kind of weaponry -- that is, instruments of warmaking? Again, we now know that any weapons know-how in one Muslim country may likely be sold or transferred to another (ask kindly, avuncular, wouldn't-hurt-a-fly Dr. A. Q. Khan for more on this). And in any case, every Muslim state contains, within the government bureaucracy, the army, the security forces, or in the populuation, a great many people who would be happy to use whatever weapons they can get their hands on and to use them against whose whom, in and out of th ecountry, they call Infidels. The colossal mistake of sending Stinger missiles to Afghanistan or in arming just about every Muslim state that could produce cash on, and from the barrel, and in offering other Muslim countires military aid to buy their supposed, temporary and feigned cooperation (as with Egypt and Pakistan) has to stop.

The proper goal of Infidel governments may be unattainable, butit should be fixed in amber by those governments: no Stinger missiles, no advanced aircraft or computers or tanks (or if those are supplied, make sure they have been jimmied so that the supplier can cause them to malfunction if, in the view of the supplier, their use threatens Infidel interests). Ideally, no Muslim polity will be allowed to acquire for its military, from Infidels, much more than jeeps, rifles, and zumbooruks.

Who are these people making these decisions about what weaponry gets sold to whom? Reading about their naivete or stupidity makes me nauseous that we are in the hands of such ineptitude ...

Surely this generosity will come back to haunt us sometime soon in the future.

Hugh: Think the unthinkable.

Surely our leaders, especially in this administration aren't so dumb as these policies you mention imply.

I don't want to repost all of the anomalous behavior of this (and past) administrations. Behaviors that indicate an endorsement or advancement of the Islamist agenda from Bosnia, Albania,Kosovo to Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, to Iraq and Saudi Arabia,and now Egypt.

This will knock your socks off a warning from Ghadafi to Europe and America Turkey, Europe and Bin Ladens My, my he almost sounds like a Jihad Watcher, in truth looking out after his own interests though.

JW types and the Right have a picture of reality, but the pieces of the puzzle don't fit the picture on the box.

Instead of trying to make the pieces of the puzzle fit the picture on the box, maybe you and others should work with pieces and construct the real picture, not the conceptual one you hold in your mind.

Pay attention to actions and deeds (or lack of necessary and required action) not rhetoric.

Rhetoric is cheap and hollow, and actions are easily spun. Lay out the pieces of the puzzle and draw your own conclusion (picture) don't let others draw it for you, especially those whose rhetoric appeals to your fears and needs.

The Islamics whine about being victims of the Jews and Crusaders (Israel, Bush, the neo cons), yet if you examine the evidence and who is benefiting, they should be praising Allah, for all the good they have done them, from the overpriced oil, to the Islamic Republic of Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq, to the geometrically multiplied number of Jihadis and cells that have been created and trained in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Meanwhile the administration claims that the most virulently anti Western Islamist Jihadi country in the world is a favored partner in the war on terrorism - Pakistan.

Are you aware that Islam is the most effective and proven social control ideology known to man.

Could it be that Islam is actually the chosen social control ideology for a shrinking world with an expanding population.

Could it be that the war on terrorism, is really what it appears to be, simply a war on militarized and militant Islam, but not Islam itself.

Islam is incompatible with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, but frankly so is the agenda of the likes of the Christian Right, who at the end of the day, with their patriarchial family values, more resembles the social structure of the Iranian Mullhacracy than the secular democratic structure and values of America and Europe. (The Iranians have a solution to the homosexual and "feminist" problem, they execute both, and Islam is totally family (meaning male domination oriented)).

Keep the guy on the street happy, in charge of his own little hareem-kingdom, and most of the job of social control is done for you. That's why, for instance, the Islamic males so vigorously defend Islam, they will gladly exchange economic status, for personal and unquestioned control of their own personal "kingdom".

In fact there are more Communist Parties and Marxists in Muslim countries, than in the west, because both Islam and Marxism are eqalitarian, anti modernity, anti (in theory) racism, and in theory at least anti private property (research Islam and property - in theory the Ulama controls the property, and decides who has use of it,and who doesn't).

In a world with geometrically expanding population, and thus geometrically increasing demands on finite and increasingly scarce natural resources, with the attendant pollution of water and air that this geometrically expanding human population and consumption will produce, a proven social control ideology is needed, one that is self enforcing (beliefs) with volunteers (mutawain/block captains or religious )police.

Communism failed the test (1917-1989) Islam has endured (1400 years worth of proven success at social control).

This paints a different picture than yours, and might answer the many questions that you have, because the facts don't match the rhetoric.

'Christian Right... more resembles the social structure of the Iranian Mullhacracy than the secular democratic structure and values of America and Europe. '~ giaour.

Could you expound upon that a bit? direct us to a website laying it all out? prove it, in other words? Or is this just what you wish others to believe?

I will grant you, I have seen the likes of this with my wife's father (United Church)- but as a Catholic, it looks Very Wrong to me. My wife is My Equal- and that is how I was raised to believe.

Gary it isn't your "facts" that are the problem it is the hyperbole and spin of those facts from what, is in my estimation, sources as questionable as Al Jazeera, Arab News, El Alam and Abu Dhabi News.

I was researching on Chalabi yesterday and came across an article which stated that the anti Chalabi and pro Chalabi sides use the same facts, but spin them differently.

To put it another way, there are two extremist and disjointed views of reality there is the Faux News/Oreilly commentary on the one hand and the Hizbollah/Al Manar reality on the other.

And it is only the ideologically driven, brain dead and stupid that get pulled into the whirlpool spin of any ideologically driven faction.

The sentient and perceptive is curious, takes in information like a sponge, and then sifts and sorts all information and viewpoints and tries (at least) to arrive at their own conclusions.

There are beliefs and opinions.

Beliefs are immune to facts, but are intellectual gymnastics, leaps of faith, and are part and parcel of a persons ego and identity (ex: Islamic beliefs, become part of the persons identity, which becomes Arab).

Opinions are transient, not fundamental to a persons core identity and can be easily changed or modified with new facts and a re examination of logic and consquences.

Opinions can be acquired (such as yours, you obviously acquire - that is parrot, the opinions of Frontpage and Townhall).

Opinions can be arrived at, that requires some grey matter and patience, the ability to think for oneself, to be curious and acquire information and facts, then sift and sort, use your own rational reasoning capabilities (if you have any) and then from your own opinion.

I go through this process all of the time, and have drastically changed or shifted my opinions, as much as 180% on many issues, and most certainly will continue the process.

For Islamics Shari'a is set in stone, for intransigent ideologues (and religion is an ideology) their beliefs are also set in stone.

Is your Weltaunschung set in stone as well?

Do you let others form your opinions, are you a follower that needs a leader that tells you how and what to think?

If so then you are just another sheep following a Judas goat, the only difference between sheople is the herd they belong to and the shepherd that keeps them under control and herded.

It is so easy when stuck in the middle of a herd of sheep, to see the herd of their other shepherd, without admitting that you too are sheople and a member of a herd.

'Do you let others form your opinions, are you a follower that needs a leader that tells you how and what to think?'~ giaour

Sorry, was busy thinking. For myself. What did you say again?

Less than 10 years ago, I thought the Israelis had taken on too much of an appearance like that of the people who tried to annihilate them. I've come a long way, on that and a couple other issues. I began listening to some talk show hosts because I thought they were idiots to be laughed at. Now the only people who fall into that crowd are Franken and company.

I spent 9 years helping on the Powwow circuit, does that sound 'right-wing' to you?
Does raising river otters to repopulate Pennsylvania sound 'conservative' to you? (hint: yes, it Is. Not for the reasons you would like others to believe however).

When you can Disprove any of those articles I post, I might listen to you a bit more. In the meantime I will continue the 20+ years of studying history on my own- which includes reading anyone and Everyone in every century I can get hold of. That's how I form my opinion- by doing research. Just like the writers of any and All of those articles I post. Years and years of research.

If being Morally Certain of some few things is too much for the moral relativity crowd, that's just too damn bad. While your heros are comparing the Taliban and others to the Founding Fathers of the US, those of us who do think for ourselves will be paying attention to the real threat. And trying to bring others around to it, just as it went in the 1930s. btw, you are aware that 'liberal' groups like the Ford Foundation, were started by people who favored the Nazis?

Anyway. I've been spending too much time away from the drawing I've been working on this weekend. Have a good one. You know, I really think there is much more in common between the lot of us here than not... too bad we can't get the blasted politics out of the world, eh?
Have a beer and relax.

"but frankly so is the agenda of the likes of the Christian Right..."

Sure, Christians execute one another for leaving Christianity.

Get your facts straight. Stop the exaggerations please. Those that think Islam is comparable to any other faith are deceived and have not spent more than 20 minutes in basic research.

Giaour, you have the mouth of an accuser and this is the telltale sign.

Giaour:

Sure, O'Reilly and Fox News are the equivalent of Hizbollah. Um, yeah right.

You present yourself as a free-thinker who wishes a pox on both houses, but strangely, your wishes toward one particular house seem to be much stronger and more emphatic than the one on the other house.

You are as trasnparent as glass, and probably a disinformation specialists trying to sow doubt amongst the anti-Jihadists here.

Sorry, we don't fall for it.

I'd like to broaden the discussion here at jihadwatch. I enjoy some of the debate others have among themselves here, but I do think it's better placed at our other site, at http://.www.co-jet.org on the blog section where we can duke it out all day without detracting from our general discusion here.

Susan P. has worked, and is working very hard to provide us with a site where we can do things beyond the scope of jihadwatch, and I urge you all to take advantage of that. It's all fine to discuss things among ourselves, disagreeing or not, but for my part I'd rather that we focus on the issue of jihad as it affects our lives, the lives of our families, friends, our neighborhoods and communities, as it affects our nations and our futures as civilizations from America to India to Russia.

The threat we face isn't from the ACLU, though they may be problematic in their seeming collusion with our opponents, nor is it from Protestant church-goes and gun ownres. The threat we face is from men and women who are incited to suicidal and homocidal insanity by the culture of Islam. People, those with names we now know, like Theo van Gogh and the Armanious family, those people are murdered. This, as we all know but possibly lose sight of during the course of our debates, is why we are here. Some of us have lost family and friends to Islamic murderers, some of us will lose others, and some of us who haven't lost anyone yet will in time. The threat we face is from a dying civilization, and that civilization coprises roughly one billion people who are insane, thanks to thier political/religious culture. They kill, and they will continue to kill. Liberals, as it were, might infuriate some of us, but our enemy is not him or her but it is Islam. The individuals are a polkice matter. Our concern is to combat the very existence of a psychotic ideology pretending to be a religion. We should take it more seriously than we sometimes seem to here.

But! I do not suggest that we close down our personal debates on this or that issue. I simply urge you to go to the site we already have for that kind of discussion, and for other kinds of work. Susan and others have worked hard to create a site for us to go to to work concretely for the future of a better world, or, to get active in the community to fight back against Islam. Hrere Spencer and Hugh and DCWatson and Catherine and many others among you provide incredibly interesting and informative works on the nature of our fight and our enemies, things we won't easily find elsewhere. this should be a place for all of us to learn more about our common enemy, Islam, and to go from here to http://.www.co-jet.org to find ourselves in the company of others who have some real commitment to doing something active and practical in the fight to rid our schools of Islamic da'wa so sixth grader children in Tennessee, for example, aren't deceived into converting to Islam without knowing what they've done. The outrages never seem to stop, and it's up to us to make sure that we do our parts to counter the menace of Islam. Let's work here at learning why we're here, and from there take our personal decisions to http://www.co-jet.org to see what more ewe can do on our own and with others of like mind and interest.

Personally, I'm looking for more help in putting together some leaflets to pass out in the community exposeing the evils of Islam. I might not stop a murder or a bombing or the massacre of a school full of children by making leaflets, but I'm going to do my small part just because I can.

I hope you'll join me there.

Use the last link, http://www.co-jet.org.

Hugh's essay and Giaour's reply have given me an idea that I thought I would share (have been lurking here & reading for a long time):
I have done a bit of reading about the secret societies & the globalist conspiracy theory --that there is a group of people who have been working toward world domination by an elite, and a one-world govt, for a very long time. This theory was laid out in "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" and its sequel, "Call It Conspiracy", among other places (like the "Duck Books"). The author of those books, Larry Abraham, was on the Michael Medved radio show recently stating that he believed the threat to soveriegnty by the globalist conspiracy was gone, replaced by the threat by Islam. Many in high govt positions, certainly Pres Bush, are members of globalist organizations like the Tri-Lateral Commission. It has puzzled me why they don't seem to recognize the threat to this country --- else why not close the borders (southern first), why keep paying great whacking sums of MY money to Muslims -- $200 million to the PA, $2 billion to Egypt, $100 million or so to Indonesia for "schools"?
One answer that does fit the facts is that the globalist elite has decided that the Muslims will do their work for them, creating a world-wide society that is well controlled, and is so busy killing each other & praying that there is little time for work -- hence not much in the way of consumption of resources -- hence more resources available for the elite. The current elite must feel that it can maintain its status alongside Muslim rule, and continue to control the money supply. It also seems reasonable that they feel that they will still have fun places to be, like St. Moritz, Monaco, etc.
The only other answer is that those in our & many other Western govts are oblivious to the growing menace & leading us down the proverbial garden path.

Grumpy~ To a fair extent, I agree with you. Except for whom I think the elite are. I think the majority of the 'elite' are on the Left... But that is a conversation for elsewhere (in deference to SonOfWalker).

Grumpy~ To a fair extent, I agree with you. Except for whom I think the elite are. I think the majority of the 'elite' are on the Left... But that is a conversation for elsewhere (in deference to SonOfWalker).

Grumpy~ To a fair extent, I agree with you. Except for whom I think the elite are. I think the majority of the 'elite' are on the Left... But that is a conversation for elsewhere (in deference to SonOfWalker).

The writing on the wall say's that a nuclear event will take place soon.
Thats a hell of a note aint it?
What can be done to delay the inevitable or do we really want to?
The time to quash this is now. It is not going to matter if you're left,right,centrist,Christian,Catholic,Baptist,Lutheran,Rastafarian,Moslem,white,yellow,brown or red,they must have us all conform Islam and that is it.We must act in unison and lay hostilities aside for the greater cause which is freedom.

Good, I hope they do keep testing nukes in their giant sand-pits, with a bit of luck the radiation will wipe out a portion of their population.