"Iraqi Forces Seize 131 Suspected Insurgents in Raid," from Reuters, with thanks to RB:
BAGHDAD - Iraqi soldiers backed by U.S. helicopters killed several suspected insurgents and seized 131 more in a dawn raid Saturday, capturing tons of explosives earmarked for attacks on the holy city of Kerbala, officials said....
Earlier this week Iraqi police commandos said they killed 85 militants in a raid on a suspected insurgent training camp near Baghdad, hailing it as a breakthrough against the insurgency.
Shaalan said several suspected militants were killed in the latest operation, which began late Friday and culminated in the dawn raid just outside Kerbala, about 100 km (60 miles) southwest of Baghdad.
The vast majority of the 131 captured were Iraqis, although officials said many faked Iraqi identification papers were also found. It was not clear how many people were killed.
"We carried out this operation so that visitors to Kerbala can go there in peace," Shaalan said.
Kerbala, an important Shi'ite Muslim holy city, has been targeted by militants several times in the past. Next week it will draw hundreds of thousands of pilgrims from throughout the region for Arbain, a major mourning ceremony.
Another defense ministry official said many of those detained were from Ansar al-Sunna, a militant group based in northern Iraq, near the border with Iran, that has carried out several high-profile attacks over the past 18 months.
"This group was intending to attack Kerbala," he said.
Seized along with the suspects were three tons of TNT explosive, at least three ready-made car bombs, hundreds of rocket-propelled grenades, several Katyusha rockets, more than 250,000 rounds of ammunition and other equipment....
I can only HEARTILY applaud these beginning efforts and hope that these detainees don't slip free to rejoin the jihad.
The catastrophic idiocy of the Abu Ghraib prison fiasco -where the woman General in charge should have been demoted to one stripe and started back at scrubbing pots in some boot camp in Georgia, where she could have a chance to sweat some sense into her simpering skull, finally- has made keeping any prisoners problematic.
The potential 'moral highground' was lost thanks to allowing guards to abuse the detainees, to bring photo cellphones and digital cameras inside to record it, and NOT having a surveillance video system watching the watchers- as any self-respecting convenience store in Teeneck, New Jersey does.
If the Iraqi police and fledgling military can handle these captives, then let them squeeze the little terrorists for secrets.
But get their plans. And stop the daily chipping-away bloodshed of IED's. And the mayhem wrought against civilians, from schoolkids waiting for the bus to doctors and nurses working at their jury-rigged hospitals.
For a clue at how the latter is being 'spun' in the Arabic press, here's an 'interesting' site.
It's curious vagueness is instructive.
http://humanitas-international.org/newstran/newsdesk-arabic-english.htm
A nonsequitur,
in eurabiantimes.com read Saudi Arabian debate, part 1.
Excellent read, great reporting, with some good thinking thats points to S.A. as central to the spread of hate that has reenergized jihdist insurgent islam over the last many years.
P.S.
for the "humanitas-international" www. above, click on the link down the page:
"Iraqi doctor: U.S. troops storm hospital".
Although it doesn't say 'why' they 'stormed the hospital'.
(The site switches itself around, to update, losing the original quick hyperlink)
Lots of other instructive clicks and tempting headlines there also.
Speaking of ungreatful bastards,I see that the Tsunami relief agencies now have 4 Billion in
uncollected pledges,do you think that maybe,just maybe the generous westerners got fed up with the
"Atomic-bomb" theory that the Jews and Infidels
caused the killings because the area was mostly Muslims.
The loud mouth Imams that spewed hatred towards
Christians are now paying the price by the refusing of 4 billion in promised pledges that has now fizzed away.
Now that the truth is out about a madrassa for the Orphans that embrace islam I won't give a cent to Muslims nations and now Somalia has jumped in and attacks us infidels.
How quickly those weasels forget the image of a dead soldier being dragged through the street in Mogadishu,let the Saudis and Palestinians bail out their Brothers in need.
lets talk sence here, USA armies with their most updated Technology and planes and satelliates and their spies all over iraq and the world can catch 131 iraqies rebilients(lets say it is true), what a great attchievment( i can't laugh more or i will piss on you guys"i mean smart american brains if there is one", i realy think that i want to congratulate your smart brilliant soldiers).
Are you guys sure that they are iraqies rebels(may be they captuered their allies "the iraqies army" or captuered the british allies "I forgot that their colors is yellow")
your people can't even control iawa, how can you convince me that you can control iraq through those 131 innocent people.
If it is true, lets them show some pictures" i forget to mention that they were not humans but they were ghosts because americans soldiers are expert in "ghost busters" and not in Terrorists buster".
Your people spend more than 2 years and can't even control the airport highway, baghdad,fallujah,oil pipes,shooting their allies.Your people sucks in war(i forgot to say that the only good thing about them is throwing nuclear bombs like cowards)
Democracy in movies is the only american democracy.
WELCOME TO MIDDLE EAST WHERE HELL IS WAITING FOR YOUR SOLDIERS.
HERE IS YOUR GRAVE AND NO WHERE ELSE.
BRING ON YOUR BEST SOLDIERS AND KISS MY HAIR A..
IF YOU GET OUT OF HERE AS A GREAT COUNTRY ANYMORE
USA IS NOT ANY MORE REGESTERED IN THE COUNTRIES LIST.
THANK YOU AND DON'T FASTEN YOUR SEATBELT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE DIFFERENCE
BYE BYE AND BON VOYAUGE.
Hey zman, you moron.
Guess what?? Its your own people who are guilty of all those inadequacies and failures. And it's your own people who are killing each other.
The primary objective of the USA mission has already been accomplished; removal of Saddam,and elimination of WMD potential. A secondary objective has also been accomplished; foreign rulers who think they can get away with clandestine or proxie attacks against the interests of the USA have reason to fear they will lose their god-like positions and be killed/captured-humiliated.
Where was the "heroic" resistance when Saddam was in power and ruling like an "infidel"(or was he actually trying to emulate the "prophet"?) and playing footsie with those other infidels like the Russians, French and Germans??
All your resistance can do is hide behind women and children, and sneak around like feral dogs.
There are signs that the people are starting to see the truth about the "resistance" and are developing the balls to elimiminate it.
Just wait, soon the people are going to drag your heroic resistors out into the street and tear them from limb to limb. It may become a popular sport.
We will let the Iraqis decide what kind of state they want to have. They have a golden opportunity to advance into the 21st century, its their choice. And they will be held accountable for their choice.
There will not be any second chances. In fact, the Iraqi/Afghanistan experiments can be used to determine whether or not the world can live with islam, or if ultimately islam must be erased from the face of the earth. I don't think the rest of the world should have to baby-sit and play stupid games with the believers of such a ridiculous and oppressive cult. Especially when 21st century technology is available to people with 7th century world-views.
No, if islam(impossible) and the middle-east can't get with the program and give up the delusions of grandeur and finally realize their whole civilization is a historical offensive joke showcasing the stupidity, brutality, gullibility, cowardice, and irrationality humans are capable of, then, they will have to meet the same fate that the Canaanites supposedly met. And don't think it could'nt happen.
Neutron bombs are wonderful things. And it has nothing to do with cowardice-- it has everything to do with efficiency and the cost-benefit analysis.
Syria showed us the way back in 1982, when Hama was a hotbed of Islamist revolutionaries.(The Muslim Brotherhood), Hafez Hasad sent in the Army which got slaughtered in house to house fighting, so he pulled back ringed the city with artillery and leveled it.
Of course he was called names,and Hama is referred to as brutal massacre, but in fact it was the only way to route out the Muslim Brotherhood and put down the insurgency.
I have to agree with Shia Pundit taking a leaf from their play book, There is no such thing as a civilian
proof al Quaeda is mercenery wing for CIA/MI6 black ops.
http://tinyurl.com/2azq
www.madcowprod.com
Instead of jihad watch this site (or shite) should concentrate on being MI6/CIA/ISI watch.
The secret services seems to have become a criminal network of private mercenaries who's main job is to create and support conflict - whether it be in Kashmir, Bangladesh(recently), UK , Iraq, Afghanistan, and as the 9/11 coverup proved against the Americans as well.
Conflict is an essential ingredient if u want to control and create markets in different regiions of the world for defence sales and drugs(the heroin prices have plummetted in Uk since the invasion of Afghanistan, due to the heavy influx of drugs).
opium is pound for pound the richest cash crop in the world. You control conflict u can create a black market for drugs as in Vietnam.
Wake up you poor , poor americanos, before you're attacked by your own secret government. AGAIN