From our "We Could Have Told You This" Department, coming from the Herald, and RB:
AUSTRALIA could be the target of the next Jemaah Islamiah attack to be launched from possibly Indonesia or the Philippines, new intelligence warns....Labor foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd told Parliament yesterday new terror intelligence suggested the Philippines and Indonesia as likely launch bases for attacks against Australian interests.
Experts told Mr Rudd that JI was providing terror training to smaller outfits in the two countries and growing its membership base. "The reality is that JI is now acting more like al-Qaida," Mr Rudd said.
Uh, could that be because they have exactly the same motivational ideology? Just wondering.
More like they will be hung up in the Philippines after what they said today because of the prison break which killed 22 mulsums??
Seams that 22 people have been murder in the city of brotherly love in the last 8 days??
How can this be more Americans have died in the City of Brotherly Love than in Iraq??
The answer is they will move a good citizan if they come forward???
Yes the Islamic Terrorist are out there and the only way to deal with fire ants is hit the hill and when it comes up again hit it again and again until they are all dead!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat let not the World be Deceived by them Amen
PS
Shopping was great today!! New Short Skirt, Pink Boots and a Jacket with Fring and last but not least a Stetson Made in the USA What a Great Look!!!
Remember how upset Ibrahim Hooper was when he went on Tv and claimed Christians were only giving aid to those accepting Bible verses,well now the Tsunami Orphans will get looked after if their brought up in an Islamic run Orphanage
to the age of 21.
The below link proves that the Muslims in England can sponsor a future "Jihadist",I discovered this scam in February when an Islamic
website exploited the Tsunami by posting a donation link.
I traced the link and found that the actual
receiver of the money was the World Islamic Org (WIO) and Islamic relief fund,this Orphanage
will be another training and indoctrine centre
to brainwash children to die for Allah's cause.
Lets hear from Hooper about this Islam for food program to recruit muslim kids,BTW,the teachings and support claim to be right up to the age of 21,from there I guess they'll go to the Finsbury Mosque for their final orders on howw to be with Allah in paradise.
http://islamonline.net/English/In_Depth/DisasterVictims/orphan/04.shtml
According to Radio Free Europe, Iraq Shiite anger against Jordan is exploding, after terrorist gloating appeared in a Jordanian publication. Obviously, the Sunni majority states perceive danger in the Shiite revival. I oppose the US policy of supporting cleric-centrist "democracy," because it is a destabilizing force. The political temper in the Middle East tyrannies is such that a majority in any state could elect an Islamofascist dictatorship. Check out this RFE article. This hate will escalate into something bigger.
http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/03/567ed754-b83b-4fdc-881b-88f5a64cede6.html
Think Again: Al Qaeda, By Jason Burke
The mere mention of al Qaeda conjures images of an efficient terrorist network guided by a powerful criminal mastermind. Yet al Qaeda is more lethal as an ideology than as an organization. “Al Qaedaism” will continue to attract supporters in the years to come—whether Osama bin Laden is around to lead them or not.
“Al Qaeda Is a Global Terrorist Organization”
No. It is less an organization than an ideology. The Arabic word qaeda can be translated as a “base of operation” or “foundation,” or alternatively as a “precept” or “method.” Islamic militants always understood the term in the latter sense. In 1987, Abdullah Azzam, the leading ideologue for modern Sunni Muslim radical activists, called for al-qaeda al-sulbah (a vanguard of the strong). He envisaged men who, acting independently, would set an example for the rest of the Islamic world and thus galvanize the umma (global community of believers) against its oppressors. It was the FBI—during its investigation of the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in East Africa—which dubbed the loosely linked group of activists that Osama bin Laden and his aides had formed as “al Qaeda.” This decision was partly due to institutional conservatism and partly because the FBI had to apply conventional antiterrorism laws to an adversary that was in no sense a traditional terrorist or criminal organization.
Although bin Laden and his partners were able to create a structure in Afghanistan that attracted new recruits and forged links among preexisting Islamic militant groups, they never created a coherent terrorist network in the way commonly conceived. Instead, al Qaeda functioned like a venture capital firm—providing funding, contacts, and expert advice to many different militant groups and individuals from all over the Islamic world.
Today, the structure that was built in Afghanistan has been destroyed, and bin Laden and his associates have scattered or been arrested or killed. There is no longer a central hub for Islamic militancy. But the al Qaeda worldview, or “al Qaedaism,” is growing stronger every day. This radical internationalist ideology—sustained by anti-Western, anti-Zionist, and anti-Semitic rhetoric—has adherents among many individuals and groups, few of whom are currently linked in any substantial way to bin Laden or those around him. They merely follow his precepts, models, and methods. They act in the style of al Qaeda, but they are only part of al Qaeda in the very loosest sense. That's why Israeli intelligence services now prefer the term “jihadi international” instead of “al Qaeda.”
“Capturing or Killing Bin Laden Will Deal a Severe Blow to Al Qaeda”
Wrong. Even for militants with identifiable ties to bin Laden, the death of the “sheik” will make little difference in their ability to recruit people. U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld recently acknowledged as much when he questioned in an internal Pentagon memo whether it was possible to kill militants faster than radical clerics and religious schools could create them. In practical terms, bin Laden now has only a very limited ability to commission acts of terror, and his involvement is restricted to the broad strategic direction of largely autonomous cells and groups. Most intelligence analysts now consider him largely peripheral.
This turn of events should surprise no one. Islamic militancy predates bin Laden's activities. He was barely involved in the Islamic violence of the early 1990s in Algeria, Egypt, Bosnia, and Kashmir. His links to the 1993 World Trade Center attack were tangential. There were no al Qaeda training camps during the early 1990s, although camps run by other groups churned out thousands of highly trained fanatics. Even when bin Laden was based in Afghanistan in the late 1990s, it was often Islamic groups and individuals who sought him out for help in finding resources for preconceived attacks, not vice versa. These days, Islamic groups can go to other individuals, such as Jordanian activist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who set up his al Tauhid group in competition with bin Laden (rather than, as is frequently claimed, in alliance with him) to obtain funds, expertise, or other logistical assistance
Bin Laden still plays a significant role in the movement as a propagandist who effectively exploits modern mass communications. It is likely that the United States will eventually apprehend bin Laden and that this demonstration of U.S. power will demoralize many militants. However, much depends on the manner in which he is captured or killed. If, like deposed Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, he surrenders without a fight, which is very unlikely, many followers will be deeply disillusioned. If he achieves martyrdom in a way that his cohorts can spin as heroic, he will be an inspiration for generations to come. Either way, bin Laden's removal from the scene will not stop Islamic militancy.
“The Militants Seek to Destroy the West so They Can Impose a Global Islamic State”
False. Islamic militants' main objective is not conquest, but to beat back what they perceive as an aggressive West that is supposedly trying to complete the project begun during the Crusades and colonial periods of denigrating, dividing, and humiliating Islam. The militants' secondary goal is the establishment of the caliphate, or single Islamic state, in the lands roughly corresponding to the furthest extent of the Islamic empire of the late first and early second centuries. Today, this state would encompass the Middle East, the Maghreb (North Africa bordering the Mediterranean), Andalusia in southern Spain, Central Asia, parts of the Balkans, and possibly some Islamic territories in the Far East. Precisely how this utopian caliphate would function is vague. The militants believe that if all Muslims act according to a literal interpretation of the Islamic holy texts, an almost mystical transformation to a just and perfect society will follow.
The radical Islamists seek to weaken the United States and the West because they are both impediments to this end. During the 1990s, militants in countries such as Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Algeria began turning their attention abroad as they grew frustrated by their failure to change the status quo at home. The militants felt that striking at the Arab regimes' Western sponsors (the “far enemy” as opposed to the “near enemy”) would be the best means to improve local conditions. This strategy, which bin Laden and those around him aggressively advocate, remains contentious among Islamic radicals, especially in Egypt.
Yet, as the March 11, 2004, terrorist bombings in Madrid revealed, attacks on the “far enemy” can still be employed with great effect. By striking Spain just before its elections, the militants sent a message to Western governments that their presence in the Middle East would exact a heavy political and human toll.
“The Militants Reject Modern Ideas in Favor of Traditional Muslim Theology”
No. Although Islamic hard-liners long to return to an idealized seventh-century existence, they have little compunction about embracing the tools that modernity provides. Their purported medievalism has not deterred militants from effectively using the Internet and videocassettes to mobilize the faithful.
At the ideological level, prominent thinkers such as Sayyid Qutb and Abu Ala Maududi have borrowed heavily from the organizational tactics of secular leftist and anarchist revolutionaries. Their concept of the vanguard is influenced by Leninist theory. Qutb's most important work, Ma'alim fi'l-tariq (Milestones), reads in part like an Islamicized Communist Manifesto. A commonly used Arabic word in the names of militant groups is Hizb (as in Lebanon's Hizb Allah, or Hezbollah), which means “party”—another modern concept.
In fact, the militants often couch their grievances in Third-Worldist terms familiar to any contemporary antiglobalization activist. One recent document purporting to come from bin Laden berates the United States for failing to ratify the Kyoto agreement on climate change. Egyptian militant leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has decried multinational companies as a major evil. Mohammed Atta, one of the September 11 hijackers, once told a friend how angered he was by a world economic system that meant Egyptian farmers grew cash crops such as strawberries for the West while the country's own people could barely afford bread. In all these cases, the militants are framing modern political concerns, including social justice, within a mythic and religious narrative. They do not reject modernization per se, but they resent their failure to benefit from that modernization.
Also, within the context of Islamic observance, these new Sunni militants are not considered traditionalists, but radical reformers, because they reject the authority of the established clergy and demand the right to interpret doctrine themselves, despite a general lack of academic credentials on the part of leading figures such as bin Laden or Zawahiri.
“Since the Rise of Al Qaeda, Islamic Moderates Have Been Marginalized”
Incorrect. Al Qaeda represents the lunatic fringe of political thought in the Islamic world. While al Qaedaism has made significant inroads in recent years, only a tiny minority of the world's 1.3 billion Muslims adhere to its doctrine. Many sympathize with bin Laden and take satisfaction at his ability to strike the United States, but that does not mean they genuinely want to live in a unified Islamic state governed along strict Koranic lines. Nor does anti-Western sentiment translate into a rejection of Western values. Surveys of public opinion in the Arab world, conducted by organizations such as Zogby International and the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press, reveal strong support for elected government, personal liberty, educational opportunity, and economic choice.
Even those who believe “Islam is the solution” disagree over precisely what that solution might be and how it might be achieved. Radical militants such as bin Laden want to destroy the state and replace it with something based on a literal reading of the Koran. However, some political Islamists want to appropriate the structures of the state and, in varying degrees, Islamicize them, usually with a view toward promoting greater social justice and outflanking undemocratic and powerful regimes. An example of the latter would be the Pakistani Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) movement, currently led by veteran activist Qazi Hussein Ahmed. JI represents a significant swath of Pakistani popular opinion, and although it is tainted by appalling levels of anti-Semitism, it has taken a stance against bin Laden and the Taliban when politically feasible. Often, as in Iraq, Jordan, and Turkey, such groups are relatively moderate and can serve as useful interlocutors for the West. They should not be rejected out of hand as “Islamists”; refusing to engage them only allows the extremists to dominate the political discourse.
“The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Is Central to the Militants' Cause”
Wrong. Televised images of Israeli troops violently repressing Palestinian protesters in the occupied territories certainly reinforce the militants' key message that the lands of Islam are under attack and that all Muslims must rise up and fight. However, although a resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would help alleviate political tensions in the region, it would not end the threat of militant Islam.
The roots of contemporary Sunni Islamic militancy cannot be reduced to any single, albeit thorny, problem. Militants feel the umma is under attack. In their view, Israel is merely the West's most obvious outpost—as it was when it became a Crusader kingdom in the 12th century. If the Jewish state disappeared, the Islamists would still fight in Chechnya, Kashmir, Egypt, Uzbekistan, Indonesia, and Algeria. Their agenda is typically determined by local grievances, often with lengthy histories. For instance, although bin Laden was already calling for a boycott of U.S. goods to protest support for Israel in the late 1980s, he had never been involved in an attack on an Israeli target until recently. His primary focus has always been to topple the regime in his homeland of Saudi Arabia. Likewise, Zawahiri's lengthy 2002 book, Knights Under the Prophet's Banner—part autobiography, part militant manifesto, which first appeared in serial form in 2001—focuses almost exclusively on the author's native Egypt.
Moreover, considerable support for the Islamic cause stems from Muslims' sense of humiliation. A two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which would still leave the “Zionist entity” intact, would therefore offer little succor to the wounded pride of any committed militant or, more crucial, to the pride of those in the wider community who support and legitimize extremism and violence.
“Sort Out Saudi Arabia and the Whole Problem Will Disappear”
No. Saudi Arabia has contributed significantly to the spread of radicalism through the government-subsidized export of its Wahhabist strand of hard-line Islam. This policy arose from the turmoil of the late 1970s, when outrage over government corruption and the royal family's decadence prompted hundreds of Islamic radicals to occupy the Grand Mosque in Mecca. The 1978-79 Shiite revolution in Iran threatened Saudi leadership in the Muslim world and offered a cautionary tale of the fate that could await the House of Saud. In an effort to appeal to religious conservatives and counter the Iranian regime, the royal family gave the Wahhabi clerics more influence at home and a mandate to expand their ideology abroad.
Since then, Saudi money disbursed through quasi-governmental organizations such as the Muslim World League has built hundreds of mosques throughout the world. The Saudis provide hard-line clerics with stipends and offer financial incentives to those who forsake previous patterns of worship. In Pakistan, money from the Persian Gulf has funded the massive expansion of madrasas (Islamic schools) that indoctrinate young students with virulent, anti-Western dogma. This Saudi-funded proselytism has enormously damaged long-standing tolerant and pluralist traditions of Islamic observance in East and West Africa, the Far East, and Central Asia. Wahhabism was virtually unknown in northern Iraq until a massive push by Gulf-based missionaries in the early 1990s. And many of the mosques known for radical activity in Germany, the United Kingdom, and Canada were built with donations from private and state sources in Saudi Arabia.
The inequities of the Saudi system—in which most people are very poor and ruled by a super-rich clique—continues to create a sense of disenfranchisement that allows extremism to flourish. Many of the most militant preachers (and some of the Saudi hijackers who perpetrated the September 11 terrorist attacks) come from marginalized tribes and provinces. A more inclusive style of government and a more just redistribution of resources would undercut the legitimacy of local militants and deny radicals new recruits. Yet, while such reforms might slow the spread of Wahhabism and associated strands outside Saudi Arabia, in much of the world the damage has already been done. As with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Saudi Arabia is one of the many causes of modern Islamic militancy, but it has no monopoly on blame.
“It Is Only a Matter of Time Before Islamic Militants Use Weapons of Mass Destruction”
Calm down. Although Islamic militants (including bin Laden) have attempted to develop a basic chemical or biological arsenal, those efforts have been largely unsuccessful due to the technical difficulty of creating, let alone weaponizing, such materials. As one of the first journalists to enter the research facilities at the Darunta camp in eastern Afghanistan in 2001, I was struck by how crude they were. The Ansar al-Islam terrorist group's alleged chemical weapons factory in northern Iraq, which I inspected the day after its capture in 2003, was even more rudimentary. Alleged attempts by a British group to develop ricin poison, but for the apparent seriousness of the intent, could be dismissed as farcical.
Nor is there any compelling evidence that militants have come close to creating a “dirty bomb” (a conventional explosive packaged with radioactive material). The claim that Jose Padilla, an alleged al Qaeda operative arrested in the United States in 2002, had intended to deploy a dirty bomb has been largely discounted—it was an aspiration rather than a practical plan. Constructing a dirty bomb is more difficult than most imagine. Although the International Atomic Energy Agency warns that more than 100 countries have inadequate control of radioactive material, only a small percentage of that material is lethal enough to cause serious harm. It also requires considerable technical sophistication to build a device that can effectively disperse radioactive material. Some have also voiced the fear that militants might obtain a “prepackaged” working nuclear warhead from Pakistan. However, that would only be a plausible scenario if an Islamic regime came to power, or if high-ranking elements of the Pakistani military developed greater sympathy for the Islamists than currently exists.
The 1995 Aum Shinrikyo sarin gas attack in Japan highlights the difficulties terrorist groups face in deploying weapons of mass destruction. Despite possessing sophisticated research facilities funded by an estimated $1 billion in assets, the group failed nine times to launch a successful attack prior to the incident in the Tokyo subway system. (Even then, the fatalities were mercifully limited to a dozen people.) Confronted with such constraints, Islamic militants are far more likely to use conventional bombs or employ conventional devices in imaginative ways—as was the case with the September 11, 2001, attacks in the United States and the March 11, 2004, train bombings in Spain.
“The West Is Winning the War on Terror”
Unfortunately, no. The military component of the war on terrorism has had some significant success. A high proportion of those who associated with bin Laden between 1996 and 2001 are now either dead or in prison. Bin Laden's own ability to commission and instigate terror attacks has been severely curtailed. Enhanced cooperation between intelligence organizations around the world and increased security budgets have made it much harder for terrorists to move their funds across borders or to successfully organize and execute attacks.
However, if countries are to win the war on terror, they must eradicate enemies without creating new ones. They also need to deny those militants with whom negotiation is impossible the support of local populations. Such support assists and, in the minds of the militants, morally legitimizes their actions. If Western countries are to succeed, they must marry the hard component of military force to the soft component of cultural appeal. There is nothing weak about this approach. As any senior military officer with experience in counterinsurgency warfare will tell you, it makes good sense. The invasion of Iraq, though entirely justifiable from a humanitarian perspective, has made this task more pressing.
Bin Laden is a propagandist, directing his efforts at attracting those Muslims who have hitherto shunned his extremist message. He knows that only through mass participation in his project will he have any chance of success. His worldview is receiving immeasurably more support around the globe than it was two years ago, let alone 15 years ago when he began serious campaigning. The objective of Western countries is to eliminate the threat of terror, or at least to manage it in a way that does not seriously impinge on the daily lives of its citizens. Bin Laden's aim is to radicalize and mobilize. He is closer to achieving his goals than the West is to deterring him.
Jason Burke is chief reporter for Britain's Observer and author of Al-Qaeda: Casting a Shadow of Terror (New York: I.B. Tauris, 2003).
More barbaric behaviour from 'civilised' US army:
Seems the US army is trying its best to mimic Saddam Hussain's behaviour:
"An American army platoon leader who ordered his troops to throw two Iraqi prisoners into the Tigris river was sentenced to 45 days in military prison and given a $12,000 fine."
(Susan Goldenberg, Washington)
www.gardian.co.uk/iraq
Meanwhile in an alternate Universe somewhere in the ex-secular democratic country of Iraq recently conquered by the invading Americanstani Army of Allah:
An Americanstani army platoon leader who ordered his troops to throw two Iraqi Christian democrat prisoners into the Tigris river for refusing to covert to Islam and blow up a primary school full of infidel children was awarded the Sharia Star for excellence in Barbarism Management, given 12000 dinars and a ticker tape parade down the streets of Washingtonabad where over a million slaves to Allah will jump and shout in a psychopathic frenzy to show their appreciation.
WhiteQueen~ islam will still have to run Twice as Fast if it intends to get anywhere thru Jihad.
And I must get busy, have a safe day, everyone.
Posted by: whitequeen at March 17, 2005 05:08 AM
BUT YOU STORY FAILED TO STATE THAT THOSE IRAQIS HAD JUST KILLED SOME IRAQI WOMEN AND CHILDREN???
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THREAT LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN
PS
We all saw the Iraqi women hanging from light polls who had waved at the People who came to free them!!
Looks like you need to go online and buy the DVD
"Buried in the Sand the Deception of America"
This should help you get things streight in your head on what real life is about??
Well, here's what I drew from Whitequeen's copy-and-paste:
The jihad includes violent takeover of Western territories including Spain and the Balkans, and in fact everywhere islam put its foot; the ownership of Jerusalem is out of the question
Muslim's own governments are responsible for obstructing their efforts at modernization
Al-Qaeda is merely a facet of overall jihad theology
Merely getting rid of Saudi Arabia won't solve the problem
The military response to terrorism is working better than any other
Islamofascists are and have been trying for years to get WMDs, and have indeed almost done so, but have failed occassionally through sheer ineptitude; more attacks are coming
Thanks for the post, Whitequeen.
Geoff
Quoting Lewis Carrol, courtesy of Hugh some time ago, re our returned Muslim troll:
"I can believe six impossible things before breakfast" the White Queen tells Alice.
Kevin Rudd's a loser leftie. Australians will never hear the truth from him. JI and Al-Q aren't just some unrelated terrorist "clubs". They're all part of the same evil ideology. No wonder they're "acting" alike.
Hello,
I don’t doubt Australia is and has been on the hit list for wanton savagery by the followers of the "Religion" of peace, however it should be pointed out that the source of this story is the Socialist OPPOSITION foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd.
Mr Rudds' Socialist Labor party is AGAINST the war on terror, believes Saddam should still be in power and that the only intervention that should take place ANYWHERE in the WORLD is that which is authorized by the United Nations ie. France Germany Russia.
Saddam was the leader of the SOCIALIST BA'ATHIST Party.
When he was Vice President of Iraq he donated MILLIONS of dollars to his fellow SOCIALIST Party, the Australian Labor Party, that’s one reason why the ALP was so supportive of his remaining in office and is to this day demanding the "Coalition of the willing" (or as the left calls it "the coalition of the killing") "CUT & RUN" from Iraq immediately.
This policy clearly would hand Iraq over to its former Terrorist masters.
As I write this the ALPs’ rabid left “pit bulls” are salivating their way through the streets of Sydney protesting the down fall of their good Comrade Saddam and calling for the downfall and failure of the Coalition of the willing in Iraq
Given Mr Rudds' ALP policy on "the war against terror" namely give them what they want and they will leave us alone, they really are only after America, America should ask what it did to deserve it , its nothing to do with Australia etc etc etc I find his NEW found concerns for a possible terror attack on Australian soil at best 3 years to late and at worst rank political opportunistic hypocracy, however it is good to see that at least some members of the ALP no matter how superficial acknowledge Australia is at risk from the savagery that passes for a "Religion " of peace.
Perhaps he could ask his party’s financial backers the Australian Council of Trade Unions to agree to camera surveillance of the Transport Workers Union at Australia’s airports so as baggage handlers could be monitored. Given their preference for employing Muslim’s, one of whom is awaiting trial for terrorist activities in Sydney and another who is currently serving a 5 year sentence in Lebanon after fleeing Australia whilst on Bail for numerous terror related offences or is that too big an ask?
Perhaps next time his Labor college Leo McClay visits the leader of Hezbollah for a private audience he could ask his Comrade to use his influence to leave Australia off the list of targets for Islamic savagery.
Put simply Mr Rudd and the ALP collectively, as far as Terrorism is concerned, would not know if a bus load of terrorist drove up their arse and got off.
It’s like the arsonist arriving at the fire issuing instructions on the best way to put the fire out to the fire fighters.
See Transcript of Channel 9 News story below.
Dhimmi Watch
October 01, 2004
Suicide of the West update from Australia
"Australia should be turning its military on both itself and the US" — according to an Australian politician. From the Courier-Mail, with thanks to Kevin:
LABOR candidate Ivan Molloy posed with a machine gun supplied by Muslim extremists and has said Australia should be turning its military on both itself and the US.
Dr Molloy has also claimed Muslim guerilla groups should not be labelled terrorists.
The group he posed with in the Philippines in 1983 has recently been linked by Washington to Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda network.
Dr Molloy yesterday denied he was a supporter of the group known as the Moro Liberation Front.
In the early 1980s the group was trying to violently separate the Mindanao Islands from the Philippines and establish a separate Muslim state.
A photograph of the gun-toting Dr Molloy was featured in a 33-page working paper he wrote for his thesis entitled "The Conflicts of Mindanao: Whilst the Revolution Rolls On, the Jihad Falters".
The paper was largely devoted to the Moro Liberation Front, a Muslim guerilla warfare army.
Since Dr Molloy spent time with the Moro group it has splintered but the main faction was the one linked by Washington to al-Qaeda.
"I don't want to get caught in the trap of saying I am sympathetic but I would say I understand their causes," Dr Molloy said yesterday.
I doubt it.
This clown is so typical of Australia's Labor Party (Socialist Left Union Dominated Greens "Peace Activist" rat bags)
For them no pile of dead and wounded is too high a price for others to pay for the implementation of their Communist ideology.
What better tool could the Left have than the Barbarous Savages "freedom fighters" of islam to let loose on the civilized world to first destroy it then to remake it in their Godless image.
Unfortunately for Australia this Molloy is not the exception on the left of Australian Politics.
Yours faithfully,
R Sole.
Posted by: RSole at October 2, 2004 12:30 AM
Below is a transcript of a Channel 9 Sydney news report.
I have to ask just what WAS this "Member for muslims" Labor Politician doing, was he …
Taking instructions?
Giving instructions?
Delivering a brown paper bag ?
Receiving a Brown paper bag?
Catching up with the Boss?
Or just receiving instructions?
A few points below to consider as well.
The Australian Labor Party along with it’s fund raising arm the Australian Union Movement (ACTU)
have long been the beneficiaries of Saddam Hussein hence their loyal support of his regime and their refusal to do anything that could in any way endanger his Presidency.
I fear the election of a Labor / ACTU Government for one reason alone, forget the economic disaster that it would bring, I am more concerned about the retribution that the ALP would engage in on those who did not or who it perceived did not support it at the ballot box.
According to the apologist's for islam there are only 30,000 islamic terrorist's in Sydney, the ALP was responsible for bringing them into Australia in order to vote for their “member for muslims” during the Federal Labor Governments of Hawke & Keating, I believe that the muslim ghettos of South Western Sydney created by the Australian Labor Party are the greatest threat to our National Security since their fundraising arm the ACTU, refused to load supplies to our troops on the Kakoda Track in the second World War and then repeated this infamy during the Vietnam War whilst Australian Soldiers were fighting for their lives in both cases these scum were hoping that they would be defeated (killed) by Australia’s enemy’s.
Labor Party = International Socialism / Communism
ACTU / Unions = Fundraising arm of International Socialism
This is an exact transcriptof the TV script and therefore has many seemingly irrelevant characters in the text please 'read between the lines' as they say for the relevant printed text
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NC 2004 13 60 01JUN2004 TCN 6PM NEWS LEO MCLEAY MEETING WITH TERRORIST ORGANISATION HEZBOLLAH
SHOTLIST: Exclusive: Leo McLeay along towards lift ( for his farewell dinner ), Bob Carr along, WS people in lift, Xlib Hezbollah's Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah at podium, Alexander Downer IV, Xlib Hezbollah fighting, Xlib Hezbollah rebel soldiers along fighting, Alexander Downer IV, Xlib Hezbollah fighting vs, JUN2003 Leo McLeay in parliament, Kevin Rudd speaking in parliament, Xlib Hezbollah supporters chanting, Xlib Sheikh Nasrallah, Leo McLeay IV, PTC reporter Laurie Oakes SU in studio, Alexander Downer IV, Xlib Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah at meeting.
KEYWORDS: Lebanon, Lebanese, Hezbollah meeting, terror, terrorism, terrorists, terrorist, meeting, met, meets, Beirut, leader.
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[CG at 0'20":#6000 NNN 2 Line Super\ALEXANDER DOWNER\Foreign Minister\ \ \ ]
[CG at 0'55":#6000 NNN 2 Line Super\KEVIN RUDD\Shadow Foreign Minister\ \June, 2003\ ]
[CG at 1'07":#6000 NNN 2 Line Super\LEO McLEAY\Labor MP\ \ \ ]
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And a senior Federal Labor MP has come under fire, for his activities in Lebanon three years ago.
Political Editor Laurie Oakes reveals tonight, that former Parliamentary Speaker Leo McLeay, had a meeting with the head of the Middle East terrorist organisation.. Hezbollah.
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SCRIPT:
Leo Mcleay mp for the Sydney seat of Watson will retire at the next election and last Friday night the host of prominent leaders NSW ALP figures including opposition leader Mark Latham attended his farewell .
But now details have leaked out of a meeting between Mr McLeay and this man Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah.
Upsot
Alexander Downer
A member of parliament who meets with a terrorist organisation needs to reflect on the victims of that Terrorist organisation.
Mr Mcleay spent ninety minutes with the sheik in Beirut on July the 10th 2001, Hezbollah was only officially banned as a terrorist organisation under Australian law last year, but it's activities were known long before that.
Upsot:
alexander Downer
It's been responsible of suicide bombs and it's been responsible for terrorist activities outside the Middle East.
Mr mcleay's own labor colleges condemned the organisation in last years parliamentary debate.
Kevin Rudd:
It's declared leader Hassan nasralla who stated last September Quote death to America will remain a reverberating and powerful slogan.
Mr Mcleay says he meet representatives of all Lebanese political groups during his visit .
Upsot Leo McLeay:
Hezbollah is a large political party in Lebanon and is not a banned organisation then or now
PTC:
Surprisingly the meeting was arranged at Mr Mclay's request by the Australian Embassy in Beirut he was taken to see the Sheik in an Embassy car accompanied by an Australian diplomat.
Alexander Downer:
We wouldn't have a senior officer go to a meeting with a Terrorist leader.
Laurie Oakes National Nine News.
So just what WAS the member for muslims doing in Lebanon?
Come clean Mr Latham (and give the money back ?)
Yours faithfully,
RSole.
Posted by: RSole at October 2, 2004 02:48 AM
QANTAS worker committed for trial
Jailed in Lebanon Bailed in Sydney
Bilal Kahzal could be extradited to Lebanon
Terror suspect an informant?
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