Thailand: Experts warn of foreign terrorist connections in south

Same question as in Bangladesh. From AP, with thanks to Twostellas:

BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - Evidence is mounting that foreign terrorists have provided funds and advice to Islamic rebels in Thailand's south, terrorism experts and a military officer said Monday, despite the government maintaining that the violence is the work of local separatists.

The issue over whether foreign terror groups are involved in the rebellion, which has left 700 dead since early last year, has gained attention recently by Thailand's media and experts as violence mounts in the country's three predominantly Muslim provinces bordering Malaysia.

Vitaya Visetrat, a Muslim academic, said it was clear that those who set off a car bomb in the south last month were either schooled or assisted by international terrorists.

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Unlike some in the West who persist in their folly, the Thai government and the people of Thailand are not worrying over "why do they hate us" and "what is is about our foreign policy that we need to change." They know why Muslims are killing Buddhists in southern Thailand. They are doing it for the same reason Muslims are killing Christians in the Sudan and in the Moluccas and in Pakistan and in Lebanon and in Iraq and in Nigeria and in a hundred other places, for the same reason Muslims are killing Hindus in Bangladesh and Pakistan and Indonesia, for the same reason Muslims are killing Jews not only in Israel, but everywhere some Muslim takes it upon himself, at an airline terminal in Los Angeles, on a bridge in New York, on a street in Antwerp or Toronto, in an apartment building or a store in Paris, to put into practice what Islam inculcates, and not only in the textbooks of "Wahhabist extremists."

OT: Want a laugh?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4312547.stm
However, it is typical of the desperate lack of creativity and professional skill that they had to farm out the artwork to the US and Brazil - neither country very close to the Middle East.

Thailand is the best example when it comes to Islamic Infiltration and propaganda.
There was always a minority of Muslims in the south bordering Malaysia, but they were still happy to be Thais and nobody wore a veil until about the mid- eighties. It was then that many from the poor South went to work in Saudi Arabia or other Gulf states and while there, became really all fired up and indoctrinated with 'the faith'.They returned to Thailand with money and support from SA and started up mosques and Madrassas.

Earlier you had the oilshock (when prices doubled and tripled, filling the coffers of SA just like now) and thousands of kaftan-wearing, Syphilis-ridden desert dwellers came to Bangkok and Pattaya to take advantage of prostitution. Child prostitution (including many young boys) became endemic.

The spread of Mosques, the veil and the madrassas goes hand in hand with the violence, the sedition, the hatred and the sinister cult that Islam is.

LOOKS LIKE THE WORLD IS OPENING THEIR EYESTO THIS THREAT!!

YES IF YOU HAVE MULSUMS YOU HAVE A PROBLEM!!

DO YOU JOIN THE FIGHT AGAINST THIS EVIL OR BE TAKEN OVER BY IT???

http://www.congregationalist.org/Archivesold/Dec_01/Muslim.html
Cleveland Imam Blames His Youth
Apologizes for Anti-Semitic Acts
by Joe Polhemus
The media had not been kind to Fawaz Damra, the imam at the Islamic Center of Cleveland. The Wall Street Journal questioned why he and other Muslim clerics did not denounce terrorism. The NBC Dateline program on October 28 raised the same question, as did a feature article by the Associated Press, showing Damra in front of the Islamic Center.
Then on November 4, The Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio) revealed that the Al Farooq mosque in Brooklyn, New York, had sponsored the Alki Fah Refugee Center. The Center collected money to send to Peshawar, Pakistan, in support of Afghan chieftains, including Osama bin Laden, who were fighting the invading Russians. After the Russian defeat in 1989, the Refugee Center helped fund terrorism against Israel.


WAR or PEACE?
To be fair, the question should be “Are Muslims militant or peace-loving?” and the answer, of course, is: “It depends on the Muslim.” In the Qur’an there are 192 references to God’s compassion and mercy and only 17 references to God’s wrath and vengeance, so if Muslims mean to surrender to God (which is literally what “Islam” means) then there should be no question which one wins. The Qur’an does not counsel turning the other cheek, however, and it allows punishment of wrongdoers to the full extent of the injury they impart. Still, the idea is one of justice and not aggression. “Defend yourself against your enemies but do not attack them first; God hates the aggressor” (2:190). Furthermore, “Let there be no compulsion in religion” (2:257).


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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37973
TROUBLE IN THE HOLY LAND
Armed Hamas agents
raise funds at mosques
Worshippers hand over cash, jewelry to masked terror-group members
Posted: April 10, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Palestinian worshippers at mosques in Gaza yesterday handed over cash and jewelry to armed and masked members of the terrorist group Hamas, which is raising money as the U.S. tries to cut off its supply of funds.
Reuters said the first-of-its-kind campaign is a sign Hamas's militant wing, Izz el-Deen al-Qassam, is feeling the effects of pressure to freeze its bank accounts and shut down the Muslim charities that fuel its terrorist activities.
Suicide bombings by Hamas members have killed hundreds of Israelis.


AND THEY ARE NOT STOPPING WITH ISRAELIS BUT WANT THE WORLD??

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12997
A Berkeley Prof's “Intifada” Against America
By Jonathan Calt Harris
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 15, 2004
A Catholic priest gave pronouncements “in the name of Allah.” [i] Signs were sold proclaiming “Support Armed Resistence [sic] in Iraq and Everywhere,” next to tomes of Marx, Trotsky and Che Guevara. A smiling student marched carried a sign saying “Long Live Fallujah,” and another held a Bush effigy aloft on a noose. Such was the scene at the latest anti-war rally that occurred April 10 in San Francisco, where Hatem Bazian, a senior lecturer in Islamic studies at Berkeley called for an “intifada” in America.


WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THE WAR THAT HAS BEEN DECLAIRED ON YOU??

http://www.religioustolerance.org/news_03dec.htm
2003-DEC-2: Information group expresses concern about new European Union states: Forum 18 News Service reported that Arie de Pater, director of Jubilee Campaign NL, is concerned that the European Union (EU) has given insufficient notice to the lack of religious freedom in six states: Czech Republic, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, the Slovak Republic and Slovenia. They, along with Cyprus, Estonia, Malta, and Poland, are expected to join the EU in 2004-MAY. He questions why the European Commission's 2003 Comprehensive Regular Report makes no criticism of Bulgaria's new religious denominations act, which has been sharply criticized in Bulgaria and abroad. Four additional states which hope to join in 2007 also present religious freedom problems: Bulgaria, Croatia, Romania & Turkey.


2003-DEC-2: Muslim groups in U.S. announces lawsuit against congressperson: The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) announced that they had filed a lawsuit against Representative Cass Ballenger (R-NC). He was reported in the media as claiming that the stress of living near CAIR in Washington, D.C., caused the breakup of his marriage. He is reported as saying that that his home's proximity to CAIR "bugged the hell" out of his wife who allegedly objected to women "wearing hoods" entering and leaving the CAIR building. The latter is an apparent reference to the wearing of a hijab by some observant Muslim women. He allegedly claimed that CAIR raised funds for terrorists. The lawsuit claims that this alleged accusation was made "with actual malice, wrongful and willful intent to injure, and with reckless disregard for its truth or falsity."
Arsalan Iftikhar, CAIR's director of legal affairs, said: "With this lawsuit, we are sending a clear message to all those who make malicious and defamatory statements against American Muslims or their institutions that they will be held accountable in a court of law."


AND NOW WE CAN THAK THE ITALIANS FOR GIVING ISLAMIC TERRORIST MONEY??

WHO WILL THEY KILL WITH THIS MONEY WHERE WILL THEY TRAVEL TO??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THREAT AMEN

PS
Loved what Bush said today he didn't say the EU or the UN=LON but said NATO REMEMBER FRance is not a part of NATO Degaul got them out??

Catherine:

I expect the Italian government is between a rock and a hard place. Unlike some other "coalition members" Italy wholeheartedly supports the War on Terror, but the Italian public does not. Hence, they have coughed up ransom money.

It is very unfortunate that the Italian officer was, presumably misstakenly killed by US troups as this only compromises Berlusconi's position even more.

Posted by: waterdragon52 at March 8, 2005 03:16 PM


jUST HOPE THEY USE THAT MONEY TO ONLY KILL OTHER MULSUMS??

TAKEN A STAND IS NOT AN EASY THING AND WHAT EVER EXCUSE THEY USE WILL NOT HELP THE VICTIMS OF THESE MONSTERS??

THE ITAILIANS CAN BE STRONG IF THEY WANT TO THEY HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF FIGHTING THESE MONSTERS LETS JUST HOPE THEY WILL THIS TIME STAND!!

AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO THINK GUNS KILL AND SOME SAY DOCTORS DO LETS LOOK AT DRIVING IN CHINA??

ALL THOUGH WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS IS MUSSI LAND IN CHINA??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149712,00.html
Chinese Bus Runs Off Cliff, Kills 22
Tuesday, March 08, 2005

BEIJING — A bus in southern China (search) carrying a group celebrating International Women's Day (search) ran off a cliff, killing at least 22 people and injuring 22 others, the government said Tuesday.
Forty-four people were aboard the bus travelling along a narrow road near the city of Jiujiang in Jiangxi province when the accident occurred Monday afternoon, the official Xinhua News Agency said.
An earlier Xinhua report had put the number of people on the bus at 42, but a later story said investigators had changed the figure.
The passengers were from a local insurance company who were celebrating Tuesday's International Women's Day, it said.
The cause of the accident was under investigation.
Crashes caused by reckless driving, poor road conditions and overloaded vehicles are reported almost daily in China, where a rising number of people own cars due to the country's economic boom.
More than 107,000 people were killed in road accidents in China last year


Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Sorry about this...But

Catherine, most of the accidents in China could be avoided if they just OPENED THEIR EYES.

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Back OT

My wife is from Thailand and I asked her if she wasn't afraid of the muslims and she said no, that they start something every few years because they want the southern part as their own and this has been going on for awhile now. And so far have been successful at putting it down.
For how long, I'm starting to have my doubts.

Terminator: Actually, the Muslim south of Thailand long had a number of simmering separatist movements. They went away between the late 1970's and 1990's because Thailand and Malaysia were Cold War allies fighting a common Communist enemy; and during that time agreed to not pursue irredentist claims against each other (Perlis, Keda, Trengganu were once ruled from Bangkok, before "perfidious Albion" came along). The two states also made it a point to treat the respective minorities nicely (there are a few Thai-speaking Thorawadi Buddhist villages on the Malaysian side of the frontier).

Also, the Thai government is fully aware that not all of its Muslim minority supports southern separatism.

For Thailand: chayo, chayo, chayo! (three cheers)

Waterdragon: My condolences to the family of the Italian agent killed. Also, opinion in Italy is heavily molded by a large Communist intelligentsia (like the journalist just freed), which is very bitter of how America made it impossible for them to labor under the progressive, enlightened guidance of Comrade Stalin.

Keph & Bonzi: re: Thailand!

That easy -going- thing is gone! Just like in Indonesia: 35 years ago I travelled through Java with a couple of Swiss guys and everywhere we went we had a ball! Everwhere the girls were yelling and waving at us and giving us fruits (Mangosteen and stuff) NOBODY wore a veil!

Now you can't feel safe anywhere, not even in Bali.
And in Pukhet (my last trip 2 years ago) you see the mosques everywhere, you hear the cacophony of loudspeakers and the Allahu Akhbar- shit all over the place, and women in 30 C heat wearing a veil: Sick!

And the men look like they hate you! Of course they do, because they are Islamic!







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