Two Charged in Slaying of Egyptian Family

There's something rotten in the state of Denmark!

This Northeast intelligence report still continues to make for an interesting component to these two arrested suspects based on a prison source that Douglas Hagamann is reporting on.

Edward McDonald, 25 --"While incarcerated in the federal system, he reportedly associated with a group of inmates who were actively involved in Islamic counseling - receiving radical fundamentalist Islamic literature during his incarceration. The prison source told Northeast Intelligence Network director Douglas Hagmann that there is indeed a religious component to the murders to this crime.

Convect convert and an MS13 member?? Can we say mussis??

Lets not let our gaurd down these is a killing because of mussis killing Christians!!

REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE WERE A THREAT TO THEM!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS
http://www.muskurahat.com/islam/teachjihad.asp
1.0 What is Jihad?
Jihad literally means ‘to struggle’. In the military sense it is meant in the context, ‘to struggle against oppression’. Jihad is therefore an act to liberate people from the oppression of tyrants. Jihad is not illegal acts of terror against innocent people. When tabloid journalism mistakenly informs the masses that Jihad is ‘to commit illegal acts of terror’, they are revealing the lack of their research and the extent of their unprofessional approach to the subject.
2.0 Military Training is an Islamic Obligation not an Option
According to the verse above ("And prepare against them all you can of power..."), military training is an obligation in Islam upon every sane, male, mature Muslim, whether rich or poor, whether studying or working and whether living in a Muslim or non-Muslim country. The Prophet (SAWS) explained the meaning of the term 'power' in the above verse during a Friday Sermon by mentioning that power was specifically shooting.
The verse mentions 'what you can...', meaning that the Muslims must prepare to the utmost of their ability and circumstances.
'Steeds of war' refer to the horses that were prepared for battle. In this day and age, the scholars of Islam have explained this term to mean all forms of modern weaponry such as infantry weapons, tanks, artillery, aircraft, etc.
The above verse is a clear evidence that military training of all sorts is an Islamic obligation, not something optional. Furthermore, the obligation is according to one's ability, in that the Muslims must use every means at their disposal to undertake military and physical training for Jihad.
In Surah Taubah of the Quran, Allah answers those hypocrites who made feeble excuses to the Messenger of Allah (SAWS) so that they would not have to participate in the Battle of Tabuk. The hypocrites came to the Prophet (SAWS) and gave their excuses with the impression that they really wanted to take part in the battle, but difficult circumstances outside their control were preventing them from doing so. Allah's response was:
"And if they had really intended to march forth, certainly they would have made some preparation for it; but Allah hated them being sent forth, so He made them lag behind, and it was said to them, 'Sit you among those who sit at home (women, children, elderly, etc.)'" [Quran 9:46]
These hypocrites had not intended to participate in Jihad from the outset and their lack of preparations was the evidence for this. Had they really wanted to take part in the Jihad, they would have prepared themselves and tried their utmost to join the battle, like the three companions who approached the Messenger (SAWS) before the Battle of Tabuk, requesting horses or mules so they could join the Battle. When the Prophet (SAWS) informed them that he could not provide them with mounts, they turned back with their eyes full of tears that they could not join the battle:
"Nor is there blame on those who came to you to be provided with mounts, when you said, 'I can find no mounts for you,' they turned back, while their eyes were overflowing with tears of grief that they could not find anything to spend for Jihad." [Quran 9:92]
Therefore, those Muslims unable to participate in Jihad at this present time whatever the reason have no excuse before Allah for not training for Jihad.
The Messenger of Allah (SAWS) said: "Whoever dies without having fought in battle, nor having the sincere wish in his heart to fight in battle, dies on a branch of hypocrisy." [Sahih Al-Bukhari]
The one sincere to fight in battle is the one who makes suitable preparations for battle. A Muslim that spends a life empty of any physical or military training for Jihad, let alone Jihad itself, should fear dying on a branch of hypocrisy according to the above hadith. True Iman (faith) is manifested in actions and if someone truly wishes to fight Jihad, he will prepare himself in all possible ways.
3.0 Sincerity of Intention
Training is an Islamic obligation so a Muslim must undertake it for the correct reason otherwise he will neither be blessed nor rewarded by Allah for all his efforts. The correct reason to train is to train for Jihad which is undertaken to please Allah alone. Therefore the Muslim must not publicly display to the people what he is doing, nor must he show off during his training, nor seek fame or reputation in the eyes of human beings during his training. If he wishes to be rewarded by Allah and blessed and helped in his training, all his training must be done to obtain the Pleasure of Allah alone.
In practical terms, this would mean avoiding training in the company of people (e.g. women) who might be impressed by the one training, flouting muscles etc. This also means to avoid publicly announcing to everyone that one is going for training or dropping subtle hints such as leaving clothes and equipment in view of the people. The beloved Companions of the Prophet (SAWS) used to hide their good deeds more than they used to hide their sins, for fear of their intention being corrupted. Train only to please Allah and He will help you, reward you and bless you, for there is no benefit in gaining the pleasure of human beings.
4.0 Training in your Country of Residence

Photo links:
Hamilton Sanchez

Hudson County Prosecutor Ed DeFazio

It's intersting that only now the MSM is interested in covering the case -- since the arrest of the perps have seemingly eliminated the ROP as a suspect.

I have my doubts about this. The whole case stinks to high heavens.

These two guys are patsy's. Anyone with half a brain can see that fact.

Court TV is covering this case

"Religious Tensions"
http://www.courttv.com/news/2005/0304/egypt_ap.html

I see CAIR-USA has pounced on this and even before the trial they assume the case if over and it wasn't Islam as the basis for the murders,CAIR loves to talk about arrested Muslims as "ALLEGED"
criminals because people are "Innocent until proven guilty" and premature condemnation only hurts the bridges built between various faiths.

Blah blah,blah blah...blah blah blah blah...

Here's a link to CAIR hijacking the tragedy in Canada where 4 RCMP members were ambushed and murdered while trying to deliver a "Search Warrant" for a alleged Auto-chopshop for stolen cars and a huge Marijauna Grow-Op in a large storage structure common to rural farmland areas.

All Canadians have been affected since the Police are our last line of defense from criminals that the limp-wristed Judges give lite
sentenses to,CAIR feels this is a Muslim issue and since National Security forces have 5 Muslims detained on terrorism links the press release
looks good for the "Taqiyya" effort to appear to
back the Police and condemn criminals.

http://caircan.ca/itn_more.php?id=1450_0_2_0_M

I have zero confidence we will get the full story from the government or mainstream media.

Here's the 2 suspects:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050304/480/wxs10803042338

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050304/480/wxs10703042243

"Authorities said thousands of dollars were withdrawn from Armanious' bank account using his ATM card in the days after the slayings."

Bah.. you don't steal ATM cards for real cash.. most of 'em got a 3 to 4 hundred dollar a day limit...

What'd I say:

Show me the pictures: Look at them: Put them amongst the Palies and you can't tell the difference! Only the coffee filters are missing! The kaftans have probably been left in the closet thanks to the advice of DiFazio, who bents over backwards not to have a 'case against Islam'-

Any reason why Di Fazio doesn't shave? Any misplaced sympathies by trying to look like a mullah?

I wonder...

Good photos here relating to these murders. Edward MacDonald just might be Black thus a Black-Muslim prison connection here. Maybe he hung out with the Black Muslims in prison?

He don't look black to me. But that don't disqualify ya from islam, except Farakhan's brand.
We need more background info.

Welcome back Catherine.

Well, if they've got the right men, I sure hope they get the book thrown at them. BTW, does my natal state of Nooooo Joysey still have the death penalty?

What is Jihad?

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/990

Excerpt:

What does the Arabic word jihad mean?

One answer came last week, when Saddam Hussein had his Islamic leaders appeal to Muslims worldwide to join his jihad to defeat the "wicked Americans" should they attack Iraq; then he himself threatened the United States with jihad.

As this suggests, jihad is "holy war." Or, more precisely: It means the legal, compulsory, communal effort to expand the territories ruled by Muslims at the expense of territories ruled by non-Muslims.

The purpose of jihad, in other words, is not directly to spread the Islamic faith but to extend sovereign Muslim power (faith, of course, often follows the flag). Jihad is thus unabashedly offensive in nature, with the eventual goal of achieving Muslim dominion over the entire globe.

Jihad did have two variant meanings through the centuries, one more radical, one less so. The first holds that Muslims who interpret their faith differently are infidels and therefore legitimate targets of jihad. (This is why Algerians, Egyptians and Afghans have found themselves, like Americans and Israelis, so often the victims of jihadist aggression.) The second meaning, associated with mystics, rejects the legal definition of jihad as armed conflict and tells Muslims to withdraw from the worldly concerns to achieve spiritual depth.

Jihad in the sense of territorial expansion has always been a central aspect of Muslim life. That's how Muslims came to rule much of the Arabian Peninsula by the time of the Prophet Muhammad's death in 632. It's how, a century later, Muslims had conquered a region from Afghanistan to Spain. Subsequently, jihad spurred and justified Muslim conquests of such territories as India, Sudan, Anatolia, and the Balkans.

Today, jihad is the world's foremost source of terrorism, inspiring a worldwide campaign of violence by self-proclaimed jihadist groups:

The International Islamic Front for the Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders: Osama bin Laden's organization;
Laskar Jihad: responsible for the murder of more than 10,000 Christians in Indonesia;
Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami: a leading cause of violence in Kashmir;
Palestinian Islamic Jihad: the most vicious anti-Israel terrorist group of them all;
Egyptian Islamic Jihad: killed Anwar El-Sadat in 1981, many others since, and
Yemeni Islamic Jihad: killed three American missionaries on Monday

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What are the intentions of Islam for America and the world?

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/77

The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America

Excerpt:

In the aftermath of the violence on September 11, American politicians from George W. Bush on down have tripped over themselves to affirm that the vast majority of Muslims living in the United States are just ordinary people. Here is how the President put it during a visit to a mosque on September 17: "America counts millions of Muslims among our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads." Two days later, he added that "there are millions of good Americans who practice the Muslim faith who love their country as much as I love the country, who salute the flag as strongly as I salute the flag."

These soothing words, echoed and amplified by many columnists and editorial writers, were obviously appropriate at a moment of high national tension and amid reports of mounting bias against Muslims living in the United States. And it is certainly true that the number of militant Islamic operatives with plans to carry out terrorist attacks on the United States is statistically tiny. But the situation is more complex than the President would have it.

The Muslim population in this country is not like any other group, for it includes within it a substantial body of people—many times more numerous than the agents of Osama bin Ladin—who share with the suicide hijackers a hatred of the United States and the desire, ultimately, to transform it into a nation living under the strictures of militant Islam. Although not responsible for the atrocities in September, they harbor designs for this country that warrant urgent and serious attention.

In June 1991, Siraj Wahaj, a black convert to Islam and the recipient of some of the American Muslim community's highest honors, had the privilege of becoming the first Muslim to deliver the daily prayer in the U.S. House of Representatives. On that occasion he recited from the Qur'an and appealed to the Almighty to guide American leaders "and grant them righteousness and wisdom."

A little over a year later, addressing an audience of New Jersey Muslims, the same Wahaj articulated a rather different vision from his mild and moderate invocation in the House. If only Muslims were more clever politically, he told his New Jersey listeners, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate. "If we were united and strong, we'd elect our own emir [leader] and give allegiance to him. . . . [T]ake my word, if 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us." In 1995, Wahaj served as a character witness for Omar Abdel Rahman in the trial that found that blind sheikh guilty of conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States. More alarming still, the U.S. attorney for New York listed Wahaj as one of the "unindicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators" in the sheikh's case.

The disparity between Wahaj's good citizenship in the House and his militant forecast of a Muslim takeover—not to mention his association with violent felons—is only one example of a larger pattern common to the American Muslim scene. Another example, about which I have written recently elsewhere, involves the American Muslims for Jeru­salem, an organization whose official advocacy of "a Jerusalem that symbolizes religious tolerance and dialogue" contrasts markedly with the wild conspiracy-mongering and crude anti-Jewish rhetoric in which its spokesmen indulge at closed events.1 At a minimum, then, anyone who would understand the real views of American Muslims must delve deeper than the surface of their public statements.

Doing so, one discovers that the ambition to take over the United States is hardly a new one. The first missionaries for militant Islam, or Islamism, who arrived here from abroad in the 1920's, unblushingly declared, "Our plan is, we are going to conquer America." The audacity of such statements hardly went unnoticed at the time, including by Christians who cherished their own missionizing hopes. As a 1922 newspaper commentary put it:

To the millions of American Christians who have so long looked eagerly forward to the time the cross shall be supreme in every land and the people of the whole world shall have become the followers of Christ, the plan to win this continent to the path of the "infidel Turk" will seem a thing unbelievable. But there is no doubt about its being pressed with all the fanatical zeal for which the Mohammedans are noted.

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http://www.nzmuslim.net/article170.html

You dont have to be black to be crazy.
Try to remember not all crimes are committed by muslims,but all muslims are members of a crime syndicate

Like one of the previous comments, I read the CAIR press release. That organization, who has never acknowledged a guilty Muslim, even after a conviction,is proclaiming the guilty have been arrested, case closed. After reading one of the local news reports, I still have many questions, mainly about the police. Supposedly, the two men picked up had long rap sheets. The man that lived upstairs from the Armonious family was seen in the yard by one of the Armonious relatives the day of the murder. According to the story, McDonald continued to live above the murder scene until the police told him that he had to move, and then he moved just several blocks away. With the brutality of the murders, didn't he leave evidence all over the house,upstairs and downstairs, DNA and physical evidence, and why wasn't he the number one suspect from the start by the police, given his long crime history? And, given the DA's working theory that the motive was greed and not religion. I hope that the family of the victims can finally find some peace.