Patrick M. Sarkissian (thanks to Sparta) reports on an egregious Turkish demonstration in Washington on April 24, the 90th anniversary of the Armenian genocide. You can see from the picture the outrageously ahistorical character of their claims: 3 million Turks were killed by Armenians and Greeks? This is the inversion of history. I suppose soon we will advance from Holocaust denial to the claim that Jews killed six million Germans.
Sarkissian says: "I worry about the face of Genocide recognition in 10 years. I worry about Turks who organize on a grass roots level and spend their time trying to spread lies."
That's worth worrying about.
This is just awful. I'm speechless.
What is next for these wonderful Turks? Joining up with neo-nazis' where they hold banners saying the "Jews and Poles (of the Warsaw Getto uprising) killed Germans."
And they want Turkey to be a part of the European Union? A nation that denies genocide and bullies those who want acknowledgment of this Jihadi genocide is going to be admitted to the EU?
Shame.
The world turned upside down...
I will eat my sandals if an Islamic mindset isn't behind this cowardly refusal to face the past. I can think of no other culture where such a large group of people of their own accord (i.e. not supressed as in China for example) so stringently deny a well attested and accepted historical event. If one village denies an attrocity, well that is human nature, but an entire nation?
The 3 million actually stands for the 3 million Muslims killed in World War 1. But, of those 3 million, many were Muslim Arabs killed by Turks (Ottomans). And in the same war, WW1 it is, around 20 million Christians died; but that does also not mean there were 20 million dead Armenians. So, the group of Turks on that photo are lying like the Nazi's they are. And here in the Netherlands, a Turkish-Dutch (regional) politician denied the killing of Armenians as well. For some reason Turks are very patriotic, even when they are wrong and have a non-Turkish nationality.
http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/facts/answers.html
Since the 'Zionist global bankers' clearly engineered WW II, and, in effect, caused the defeat of Germany, then every German killed during that war was, in essence, a victim of Zionist Jews, so the future banner will surely read:
"Every German Who Died During WW II was killed by Jews!"
And the neo-Nazi faces will look just as earnest as these Turks in Massive Denial.
In Canada, the Federal Government has reversed a longstanding policy and has passed a resolution denouncing the Turks for committing genocide against Armenians in 1915.
Vote passed easily 153-68.
The US suspended a similar resolution 2 years ago, as the White House warned that it could hurt the US security interests.
The Armenians and Greeks had nothing to do with these deaths. This is insane; but not beyond some people, it seems.
Geoff
"The US suspended a similar resolution 2 years ago, as the White House warned that it could hurt the US security interests."
That might possibly have been true 40 or 30 or 20 or even 10 years ago. It is not true today. The Turkish government seems to think it can turn away from the West, attack the West, attempt to bully the West, deny its own history (a history which was not that of Turks only, for the massacres of the Armenians was based on religion, and Muslim Kurds just as enthusiastically participated as Muslim Turks -- but the Turkish government cannot, for some reason, admit ot the genocide, and explain that it was a function of a "Jihadist-impulse" that, "Kemalism attempted to stamp out." The statement isn't quite true, but at least it would allow the Turks to both recognize the mass murders, and to deflect attention away from the Turks onto the religion that they claim to have constrained. Why can't they do this? Because the current rulers of Turkey, and most Turks, are loyal Muslims, and would never ascribe mass murder to the promptings of Islam? But what about Orhan Pamuk? What about the 20-25% of secularist Turks who, if Turkey is kept out of the E.U. (and it will be), will be condemned to the solitary confinement of the Islamic world (what a fate), and who wish to preserve what they can of secularism (i.e., Kemalism) which is all that has distinguished Turkey from the likes of Syria, Iraq, and Egypt -- why are they not speaking out more forcefully?
This should not come as a surprise. Mein Kampf is doing amazing sales in Turkey and I suspect the Protocols are similarly popular.
Muslims are experts at propaganda, turnspeak and revisionism.
They are not responsible for every shitty little thing they ever did. It just didn't happen but if it did, it was someone elses fault.
I pray that people with guts continue to survive and document what goes on in our world. I have a deep sinking feeling for the world we are leaving our children and grandchilren thanks to Americas' depraved, twisted liberal sons of b*tches!
As BigSleep wrote...
I wouldn't be too surprised: this would be the next level of "historical revision". Deny first, then accuse.
I am in a class that is studying the environmental impact planning process. One of my fellow students reported out an a dam project in Turkey, which has adopted the EIA process in it's bid for EU membership.
The report has been completed, but is not available to the public.
The project will flood out 70,000 ethnic Kurds, and impact a major source of water for both Iraq and Syria.
They followed the letter of the law, but obviously missed its intent. I hope that the European Union has second thoughts about letting these folks in.
Again, since it's a British funded project, maybe they'll be right at home.
Another inversion of history
Hindus killed some 100 million peaceful muslims over a couple of centuries, and forcibly converted many more to Hinduism at the point of a sword.
Muslims always appear to lie, as they do not know the truth. The truth of the horrible nature of islam has been hid from them, and all they hear is what the imam or mullah tells them. It is just like the kid who wears a mujahidin t-shirt and when challenged, advices 'KJ' to talk to an informed muslim. The kid himself knows nothing, and as usual is relying on the imam or the mullah.
This reliance by the ordinary muslim on the mullah or the imam, is a weak point in the facade of islam.
No muslim can ever admit that killing infidels in a jihad, as morally wrong. If they did, it would be tantamount to declaring that the koran is a murderous genocidal text.
Hugh - you are asking for the impossible.
If Turks keep this up, then Turkey's admission to the EU is ever more doubtful.
Remember, the new Pope is against Turkey's admission to the EU. -thank goodness!
I am no expert on the subject of the Armenian Genocide but I can put out a few facts. First, despite the "secularizaton" of Turkey of the past 80 years, the Christian Church, in particular the Orthodox Church of Turkey, has continued to dwindle in numbers to a single percentage point of the overall Turkish population. At one point, the Orthodox patriarch was likened to "a bird in a golden cage," despite the fact that Constaninople was once the seat of Christianity. Christians there of all demoninations continue to be treated as second class citizens in their own country. In addition to the Armenians who suffered a genocide at the hands of the Turks, so did the Assyrians. They, too, lost thousands and thousands of their numbers to the Turks who brutally hunted them down, killed them and forced deportation of the survivors. Today, throughout the Middle East, there are descendants of the Armenians and Assyrians who grandparents and great-grandparents in Iran, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon. Finally, if I remember correctly, the genocide of 1915 by the Turks was preceded by a slaughter of the Armenians in 1895. And, the lies continue by the Turks who always want it both ways.
"Muslims are experts at propaganda, turnspeak and revisionism."
Did you mean 'turnspeak' or 'Newspeak'? Newspeak is the commonly understood Orwellian term. 'Turnspeak' seems to have been coined by Joan Peters and copied by Alan Dershowitz who incorrectly called it "Orwellian turnspeak"; a point used by those charging him with plagiarising Peters.