Convoys of Muslim scholars tour Europe to rectify image of Islam

"Image" problems that need to be rectified. Islamophobia. "Defamation" of Islam. The need to engage in "dialogue."

No, it's too late for this. The behavior of Muslims in Europe and in the Middle East, the threats, the intimidation, the absence of heart-felt condemnation of atrocity after atrocity -- it's all getting to be too much.

And every single Infidel who remains psychically balanced, not off on a goddam Spiritual Search (try looking in California), and looks into the Qur'an, and re-reads it, perhaps with notes that help explain those innocent-sounding phrases ("Strive in the way of Allah") to find out what they mean, and who then goes on to read the "authentic" Hadith, and then finds out about the details of the life of Muhammad, and then begins to ponder such questions as -- what happened to all those non-Muslims in the lands that a handful of islamized Arabs conquered? How were they treated? Where did they go? What happened to their art and artifacts, their languages? And what happened to all those non-Muslims under Muslim rule in Hindustan? What happened to the Greco-Buddhist civilization of Afghanistan? Were those non-Muslims treated well or ill? What happened to those Buddhist and Hindu temples? What happens today to non-Muslims in Egypt, in Pakistan, in Iran, in the Sudan? Why was there the attempt by Christians in southern Nigeria to declare the state of Biafra? Why, long before the state of Israel was declared, did the surrounding and local Arabs attack in every way the Jews who bought land (at exorbitant prices) from absentee Arab landlords, and tried to extinguish any possibility of the Jews, too, possessing not vast territories as the Arabs came to, but at least one tiny sliver of land in which to recreate their commonwwealth, from which not the Romans, not the Byzantines, but the Arabs had, to a large degree, managed to expel them? Why, as those Infidels study more and more, they will ask themselves, are Hindus murdered in Bangladesh? Why has the Hindu population of Pakistan gone down from 15% in 1947 to 1% today, when the percentage of Muslims in India has actually gone up? Why have Christians been attacked repeatedly in Iraq - now, and over the centuries? Why are the Copts, when they are safely out of Egypt, so scathing in their views of the Muslims?

Learning, learning, learning. The Infidels are learning. You cannot make Qur'an and Hadith and Sira available for the True Believers, and not expect the Infidels to take a look. You cannot have Islamic websites on-line that answer questions for Muslims, and expect Infidels not to take a look, and read, and be horrified. You cannot deliver sermons that denounce all Infidels, use textbooks that tell children that they should decapitate Unbelievers, and think that forever and ever you can hide those sermons, those textbooks, from the Infidels.

They are learning. The question is: will enough of them learn in time?

Will they be riding in modified Trojan Horses?

I recall similar 'educational' brigades moving into Czechoslovakia and Austria in the late 1930's, tying to 'rectify the image' of the National Socialists. But they were at least more honest in their aims, and carried their weapons openly, and wore uniforms.

I guess Islamicists have learned that the minions of Adolf weren't clever enough, judging by the results, so the minions of Allah, perhaps having seen the movie "Troy" (at the insistence of their wives and girlfriends who like Brad Pitt), went back a little farther for a model.

This may be a way around tightening immigration laws.

Just send a million Muslim 'teachers'. Their 'temporary' visas mean about as much to them as the 'treaties' and 'truces' tactically sworn to by Mohammad.

Europe, read your Homer.

especially this period in which fierce attacks against Islam have increased

Nothing you bring to the table spiritually or philosophically is appealing in the slightest. One wonders what gave you the idea any educated people (outside the eccentric European elite) would be interested in the vacuum you are selling door-to-door. It sucks.

The program of disinformation is well organized and effective by all that I have seen and read.

There are real signs of resistance to Islamization in Europe, but they're viewed as far right wing and thus radicals.

Unless the European press takes a stand to defend their way of life, Europe will soon be no more. Civil war and collapse of their society is the end goal, leaving a huge vacuum for Muslum to force submission on them.

Europeans have to stand together, but there's no sign of that that I can see. Resitance to Izlamization seems to be in pockets and small groups.

The Queen of Denmark came out with a less than determined statement on the problem. It's a start, but a very clear indication that Denmark has a real problem.

With a citizenship of six million how many Muslums are in the country as aliens and not counted in Danish demographics?

I think the Danes will fight, but so far they've just turned the other cheek.

The other day I read an article on the take over of a christian church in Denmark, I think, by Muslums. They movede the alter and shrouded the statue of Mary, then spead carpets over the floor and walls. I looks like an Arab tent! They even had the audacity to hang a Muslum flag over the entry. But alas, there's no report of outrage or any attempt to evict them. I guess the thinking is that it's no big deal, and it will blow over, but I think it's a huge message on Danish dhimminitude.

The CIA says there's no problem, evidenced by their statistics in their world fact book on Finland. Are they too being told to "cool it"?

Allmost signs of resistance at home seem to meet with the fate of that poor woman in New York. From CNN, Fox, even NBC and ABC - they've either bought the party line or are afraid to be called prejudiced.

We've got to start a program identifying Islam as a Poligion and not a Religion to strip the protection of religous freedom from them, because from all indications they're winning the hearts and minds of most Americans.

The truth has to come out, but when we sound the alarm we're right wing radical, they're no different than the Irish or German immigrants, you belong in a padded room.

Someone, please give me something to hold onto, something to bring true hope for us.

They will have to engage in a masterful display of taquiya, and kitman to maintain the dhimmitude in Europe.

Such due dilligence by these muslim scholars in trying to portray Islam as a religion of peace should becoming an uphill battle in Europe.----
To many muslims have been wrecktifying its image over the past years with its militant tenants openly exposed and demonstrated for all to see.

How can they convince infidels that Islamic jihadism is not part of Islam? What can and will they be sincerely able to rectify?

Will they denounce the militant tenants such as "sura 9:29--Fight against such of those who have given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day" or "hadith 2:483_ Convert to Islam or die"?

BillR

The church takeover(s) you referred to is in Belgium and is still In Dhimmi Watch (scroll down to yesterday's posts).

Regarding Queen Margrethe of Denmark, I expect you are referring to a link provided by Fjordman. I think it's a very good start by a European head of state (in this case symbolic head of state).

Quoting from the article:

""This is a challenge that has to be met, and which we have not met so far either because we have been too lazy or because we are too tolerant," the Queen said in the book.

"When we are tolerant, we need to consider whether this is because we believe that something is right or because it is convenient," the Queen said, adding that "there are some things that should not be tolerated even if it is not politically correct to say so."

Link at: http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/fremmedsprog/English/article.jhtml?articleID=247346

Johnb:

Yes the articles you refer to are one's I have read.

Maybe I just don't see the big picture as others do, but for every little victory we get there's a flood of news on defeats.

All the European gang rape reports I read are not in the mainstream media. These reports, if in the main stream media, could ignite a genuine and active resistance. Where are they?

All our reports are from bloggers and electronic news outlets. Even the National Review is under attack.

Go to the CAIR web site and look around at the disinformation and their professional level of organization. Why can't we clean out this snake nest?

BillR:

Read the following:

http://www.6thcolumnagainstjihad.com/a_cubed_p1.htm

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005699.php

Bill, gently I remind you that this forum is read by islamists/jihadists and posts are copied to islamist/jihadist boards worldwide. Any expression of doubt or despair on your part "gladdens the heart of the ummah" and serves to reinforce their belief in their eventual triumph and the establishment of the global caliphate.

FEAR NOT. WE SHALL PREVAIL. The triumph of Enlightened Western Civilization over primitive barbarity - islam - is inevitable.

CGW:

Thank you for the astute observation, you are absolutely correct. The power of posative thought must lead the way.

Thank You, and accept my sincere appology.

BillR:

No apology necessary. It's natural to feel discouraged at times when confronted by the absolutely heinous nature of a totalitarian system such as islam and all that that entails, as evidenced by daily events worldwide.

But the outcome is not - and will never be - in doubt. WE SHALL PREVAIL.

I promise. : - )

BillR

I agree with your assessment regarding the mainstream media. That's why I find it encouraging when someone of Queen Margrethe's stature speaks out. In a constitutional monarchy (like the UK, or Canada and Australia for that matter) the monarch is a symbol who stays in the background. When they they do speak out about controversial subjects they tend to draw more attention than would a politician.

Regarding the mainstream media's ingnoring or sweeping under the rug various atrocities such as the rape scandals, unfortunately Daniel Pipes will be proven correct I'm afraid. Dr. Pipes stated that it will be education through murder in western democracies. Depressing but true.

You know, it's a pleasure to be associated with such knowledgeable and intelligent folks I have found on Jihad watch.

The brain dead of Islam have often been referred to as "robots", and everything I read, every bit of knowledge I glean from the web, only reinforces that world view.

Smell the smoke? Well I do, and it's at the very base of Islam, slowly consuming the rotted timber of their foundation.

Women of Islam look to be leading the way now that a worldwide information network is available for all to draw on. Even in the mud huts of Afghanistan and Somalia, the flow of free thought floods their daily life.

It's obvious from today's post on the secret life of young Muslim women that the monolithic Islam has some substantial cracks in it. I can't imagine that once Muslum women have tasted the freedom of thought found in western society that they will be content with the subjugated life.

There is really much talk in Europe of the Islamic menace, and many angry voices on the web. The awakening in Europe can only spark a similar back-lash in this country.

You know, I'm not a religious man, and I never really believed that there was true evil in the world.

I always thought it was something those religious folks dreamed up to give them something to pray about.

Now I know that I was wrong.

Wait... Egypt has enough money to send preachers, but can't get by without billions of dollars every year in US foreign aid?

As I have said before (and many others wiser than me can second), aid giving to a Muslim nation ultimately winds up being used to spread Islam and/or punish infidels. Whatever they bought with US aid, be it canaries, cars, or kotex, means that they have "extra" money laying around for--oh, I don't know--how's about a little Dawa? (See Indonesia.)

Here's a quote for those Islamic websites: "Reading the Koran and learning about Mohammed brought me to Christ."

Hmmm....That might be ambiguous to someone out there. "Reading the Koran and learning about Mohammed brought me to Christ because I had to recognize evil vs. good. Reading the Koran is like reading the diary of a sadistic egomaniac. Comparing and contrasting the works and words of Jesus to those of Mohammed made me realize that (1) not all religions or prophets are admirable or equal and that (2) Jesus was Superior in every way. Thank you, Mohammed, for proving to be such a hollow and False prophet."

A.G. Frederick III-

For a simple mantra (rhythm is essential), try:

FREEDOM WISDOM VICTORY! FREEDOM WISDOM VICTORY!

Without the first, the rest are meaningless.

Without the second, the first is emptiness.

Without the third, the others are riderless.

(A pity songwriting musicians are all cowards in the West, and none are daring to compose 'protest' songs about someone like Hirsi Ali or Theo Van Gogh.

Too busy with their trashy concerns about cars and "ho's" and jewelry and and involuted folk/rock angst to see what is coming up behind them with a global knife.)

No, former liberal WF, the first version was more than adequate. This is EXACTLY the reaction I'm having with respect to islam.

As a (former now?) atheist, I might say:

"Learning more about Mohammed and Islam is bringing me closer to Christianity."

Geoff