"'Disrespectful behaviour, not Islam, is the problem': PM," from Expatica, with thanks to Susan:
AMSTERDAM - Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende has expressed understanding for people who are offended by the link made between Islam and the problems in Dutch society."The problem is not Islam but disrespectful behaviour," Balkenende said in Rotterdam on Wednesday.
Of course. That's it. Why didn't I think of that? I should have been tipped off by Osama bin Laden's Declaration of Jihad Against Respectful Behavior.
He was addressing the closing session of the Islam & Integration debates that were held to increase understanding between the native Dutch and Muslim communities in the port city....He ended his remarks by saying: "If Muslims always have to defend themselves, we will never come to a solution for the problems . because what is the problem here? Not Islam! But the disrespectful behaviour of certain individuals and groups - both Muslims and non-Muslims".
Balkenende indicated he was a supporter of dealing resolutely with people who incite hatred, intimidate and use violence against others, schools or mosques.
Apparently in a reference to young right-wingers who identify themselves by wearing Lonsdale clothing, he added: "Let this be clear for people who, by their clothing for instance, want to identify themselves with reprehensible doctrines. But also for groups of immigrant youths who behave in an intimidating way".
"Those who try to incite angst in others tear at precisely what we are trying to build together in the Netherlands. This poison must not be allowed to spread," the Christian Democrat CDA leader said.
Balkenende said the acceptance of newcomers into the Netherlands was of great importance. "This is a task for us all: in our local districts, at work, in the street and in the club, everywhere."
Integration, he added, was more than a course of study. "Integration is blending in the greater whole, without denying your identity".Asked by a teen boy in the audience what the term integration meant, Balkenende stumbled slightly over his words before saying it was about contributing and participating in society....
The boy seems to have stumbled on to something here. What does "integration" mean, anyway? Does it mean the majority tolerating "disrespectful behavior"? Ah, the boys don't mean it; they're just youthful ruffians. Boys will be boys, after all. Of course, we make it worse for ourselves by not cooperating...oh, uh, I mean educating, ourselves about the special nature of their religion and all their special needs. And we make them feel bad about themselves, so they become violent, you see... But what about the victims, you say? Van Gogh? Oh, don't ask about him, he had it coming, he was just trying to stir up trouble. Spreading Islamophobia, he was.
2.193. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allâh) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allâh (Alone). But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zâlimûn (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)
This is disrespectfull
Shame on those disrespectful Dutch. And, let's see, those disrespectful Russians, those disrespectful Persian Bahais and Zoroastrians, those disrespectful Hindus (Indian, Balinese equally disrespectful), those disrespectful Buddhists (Thai, Indian, Chinese, it does not matter, they are all disrespectful), those disrespectful Sikhs, and those disrespectful Christians all over the world, Indonesian, Pakistan, Philippines, Australia, Bangladesh, Copts in Egypt, and just about any Christian sect in a Muslim country, especially those very disrespectful Iraqi Christians, very disrespectful, and, of course, those disrespectful and decadent Americans and Europeans (including the aforementioned Dutch who are known for the worst kind of 'disrespectin''), those disrespectful tourists, everywhere from Egypt to Bali, and those disrespectful Spaniards, and, most all of, the most disrespectful of all, the disrespectful Jews.
And we are just gettin' started...
What's the world coming to? Muslims just can't get no respect!
I forgot to mention the disrespectful Africans of all religious persuasions and nationalities, even the black Muslim variety.
And all these offenses of disrespect, all these disrespectful peoples throughout the world, for many centuries now, have been repaid in kind by Muslims who have so reasonably responded to these grave and serious insults.
The mention of Lonsdale clothing is explained by this. Nazis cannot wear any clothing or have signs with the word Nazi, or the name of Hitler's Socialist party: NSDAP (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).
Some neo-Nazis noticed that the Lonsdale has NSDA in the middle. So if one covers up the other letters by wearing an open bomber jacket, it looks like a Nazi sign. It is missing the P, of course, but neo-Nazis like this since then it is harder to prosecute them for wearing Nazi insignia or signs.
The Lonsdale brand has shirts, pullover sweaters, hooded tops, caps, in other words, the works:
http://images.google.com/images?q=%22Lonsdale%20clothing%22&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=N&tab=wi
Related news links:
British firm Lonsdale tries to lose Nazi image
By Kate Connolly (Filed: 02/10/2004)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/02/wlons02.xml
Alarm over radicalisation of Dutch youth ("more dangerous than islamic terrorism")
Expatica | 4 April 2005 | Expatica
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1377258/posts
Lonsdale Clothing Forbidden in Dutch School
http://maarten.typepad.com/brusselsblog/2004/11/lonsdale_clothi.html
What hypocrisy. I suppose that only Muslims are worthy of respect. The Koran is full of passages that show disrespect for non-Muslims and history and current events are full of moments of disrespect.
The term integration means "blending in", but how can you blend in if all that's said in done stands out. Having an "in your face attitude" with one's religion and culture is not an example of blending in.
If it's not the collective behaviour of all Muslims that define Islam then what is the true
teachings.
The Quran is the source for thier morals and ethics,maybe Islam is the problem since anyone trying to improve the image is labelled a Bad-Muslims and given death threats for offending Allah.
NOTE TO DUTCH POLITICO-
"Integration" means to "become part of", which is anathema to Islam.
Their goal is the disintegration of the infidel world and reabsorption of its submissive parts into the Great Islamic Society.
If you are NOT one of the 'peoples of the book" (who may be spared -if they don't fight back)- you are slated to be killed if you won't convert. This includess all 'polytheists' (like the Hindus, Zoroastrians, etc.) or non-theists (like the Buddhists), or pagans (everybody else on Earth, from Shinotists and Wiccans to agnostics and Australian Aboriginals).
Atheists should just start doing hatha yoga so their can reach their ass by then to kiss it goodbye.
The Dutch need to look at themselves and decide if they are willing to become second-class serfs of the Restored Caliphate, or will they have the balls to drive their smiling invaders back to Mecca and reclaim their own land from inexorable demographic destruction.
Through cunning legal methods, of course.
No need to imitate the brutality and crudity of the Saudis or Taliban.
Maybe special One-Way Hadj lottery tickets handed out at all mosques?
P.S.-
For the Hadj Lottery-
Every ticket a WINNER, naturally.
"Dutch PM: 'Disrespectful behaviour, not Islam, is the problem'"
What would BIGALLAH say?
BIG ALLAH: I am always happy to promote more respect for myself. You know just like people used to respect the mafia. If I get no respect I blow you all up. Good to see the Dutch PM has finally got my message.
"The problem is not Islam but disrespectful behaviour,"
But of course - now tell that to Theo Van Gogh, Hirsi Ali and Gert Wilders. I suppose being murdered or having to hide in your own country from jihadis is a sign of disrectful behaviour.
Oops: should be "is a sign of disrespectful behaviour." in last sentance.
The disgraceful behaviour of Islam and its followers is the problem.
JohnB,
But that is what our PM and minister of Justice and the "intellectuals" (self proclaimed that is and without much to justify their claims to this status) are telling Van Gogh (or the late Van Gogh), and Hirsi Ali and Wilders (and everyone else who dares to secondguess our culture being the enriched by islam and immigration). Critics of Islam are openly blamed for the criminality (we do not make them feel welcome) of the immigrants (3th generation already!), their violence (they feel so rejected), their unemployment (although it is a known fact that your changes to get in all kind of -legal- troubles with an Maroccan employee are far better then with someone from different descent, I know I make a living out of it), for getting yourself killed, for being called a whore, a pig or whatever, for them not speaking Dutch, for them starting their own schools, for them chasing others than Islamits out of their houses, and so on and so on. In short: we pester those people and deserve everything that we got from them. This has an obvious reason: we all are racists here (although people in all shades of coleur -provided they do not go for allah- are unhappy about the Islam and the way it outens itself in our country). Note that educated and elderly Turks are going back to Turkey because they can not live in a country as the Netherlands where you get in trouble for not following the Ramadan.
It does not stop there. Within two weeks of the Van Gogh murder our minister of Justice asked in Parlement for prosecution of people of use the name of God idle (or Allah, God's name is obviously not the problem, thus saying indirectly (but it was understood all to well) that Van Gogh was to blame for his own murder. More: Our queen did not see it fit to offer formal condolences to the family of Van Gogh, in stead she decided to visit a group of Islamists in order to assure them that they were not to be blamed and could count on her support. Our Pm did not go to the services of Van Gogh, but visited a school that got burned (at night, no one in there), so stating that the violence of burning a school was far worse then a murder.
Afterwards, some writers wrote an open letter to the queen, asking her to show at least some support for Ayaan Hirsi Ali (she wrote the script of the movie directed by Van Gogh for which he was killed), this was denied. Formally it was because she could not take sides, not even when a MP as Hirsi Ali was forced to go into hiding and even flee to the US. Strange since visiting a mosk or something like that, is taking sides as is saying nothing about what happened to Van Gogh.
Nowadays, our PM is instructing us (yes us, meaning the non-islamists) to show respect. Us, and not the others, he is to chicken and to stupid or shortsighted or both to simply state (and that is supposed to be part of his job) that we have a problem with immigration and with the immigrants, who simply not tolerate our way of life. And that is what it is: people that not tollerate us and our way of life. Some months ago a young maroccan robbed a woman in her car, she then put her car in reverse and the result was that the guy died. People attending the funeral said things like: "everybody steals a purse sometimes and it is simply not reasonable to get killed if you do so." Ofcourse, there is nor should be a deathpenalty on stealing purses, but the fact that it was seen as completely normal to steal a purse was -provided that it is not the purse of a believer- what was so shocking about those statements. Riots were about to break out, but then it turned out the lady in the car was black (non-muslim) and Maroccan people simply stated that, if they had known that all along, they would not have been so enraged. This means that white Dutchmen are not allowed to defend themselves and are hated anyway.
The latter is proven (as far more proof was needed) by the outing of childeren -some of those not even 8 years of age-, saying things like "F=ck the Dutch" and "Kill the Jews", since those things are not part of any curriculum here, they must have learned it at home.
Respect, I love to give respect to people deserving it, I do not feel I should be forced or asked to repsect people that do not respect me or my culture.
As you all will understand I'm a bit fed up with showing respect and integrating and so on, thus I write this posting in Dutch-English, hope no offence is taken.
The "poison", (Islam)has already been spread and this guy seems to have gotten a toxic dose of it. Toxic Shock Syndrome...formerly the domain of feminine product users, has now expanded to include those toxified by Islam. Thats how Islam produces psychotic episodes in believers and apologists like this guy. You can see TSS all over the place, especially among politicians officials and leftists, who just cant get it together to be honest about Islam. Thats if they know enough to be honest, which most of them dont. Even Geo Bush has been touched with TSS. TSS is what spews out of organisations like "Cair". Pure poisonous propaganda designed to trick the unwary, the way to get over being tricked, is to get over being tricked. Most of the posters on this site have done that. Balkenende obviously has not and has fallen prey to TSS...Education is the salve. When Islam falls, it will be the internet and it's wealth of information( as on this site) that will do it...cheers...swami
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