Hasan Akbar stabs MP

My Gawd! This creep stabs a militery policeman with impunity?

If I had done that when I was in the Army I's still be Levenwoth!

What's happening to us?

This is totally unbelievable!

Up is down. Right is wrong. What's happening to the world???

What’s happening? It’s already happened. The left has America by the proverbial shorthairs and it’s going to take a vigorous counter revolution to get it back. If we don’t, America will lose its independence and become subject to a world government, the ultimate goal of lefties everywhere. That means no country will be allowed to have a unique cultural identity, instead everyone and every country will be equal.

This jihadi has already murdered a couple of American soldiers. His intent is as clear as it could be. It is unforgivable that this is allowed to continue.

If this jihadi's is sentenced to a life term, he will continue to pose a serious threat to the lives of the warders, or any who come into contact with him.

A detailed account of his attack with the grenade. I am nearly sure he stabbed the guard in the neck with a screwdriver, and the guard fought him off with a screwdriver sticking out of his neck.

http://www.kfmb.com/story.php?id=9640

More babysitting by the PC systems. Let’s hope those who have the decision as to this criminal’s punishment can make sure it fits the crime - Send him to his paradise by way of a hole in the sand accompanied by a pig. His crimes is beyond any doubt.

Had Akbar stabbed a lawyer or a judge, do you think the learned judge's response would have been the same?

As regards to Akbar, he will probably get life. Why? It's because the left controls the media and the left hates the military. The military brass needs to tell them to jump in a lake and then do what's right. Kill this bastard with a firing squad. 30 years ago that would have been exactly what would have happened but for the last 30 years the liberal left has been infiltrating all media, news, and entertainment outlets and will lie in their news reports to the detriment of our Gov't officials. This negative press has a paralyzing effect on the officials to carry out the correct action. The worst offender is the NYT. This has to end.

Wasn't the guard armed? (Or are they THAT p.c. now in the military?)

If he was armed, a pity he didn't just end Akbar's 'process' right then and there.

A toilet seems the appropriate place for this piece of sh..

RE- the judge-

It is dangerously stupid, if not criminally incompetent, for this judge to be inventing quasi-legal definitions ("opportunistic stabbing") to help in exonerating homicidal maniacs.

He should fit like a pit into a peach in the current civilian court system upon discharge, where such 'creative' follies are becoming the rule of the day on the bench.

I can just hear the liberals equivocating:

He's already facing a possible death sentence ...Is the fact the poor man is so distraught he stabbed his guard going to make any difference? What will they do, give him another life sentence?

Has the military judicial system turned into heartless facists? Oooh, booo hooo!!! Free Hasan Akbar!!!!!

Akbar was born Mark Fidel Kools. His mother said she changed his name to Hasan Akbar after she remarried when he was a young boy. Public records found by The Associated Press showed listings for Hasan Akbar under the name Kools as well.

The FBI combed Akbar's apartment complex in Clarksville, Tenn., early Sunday, looking for clues, The Leaf-Chronicle newspaper in Clarksville reported.

One address for Mark Fidel Kools in Los Angeles is the Bilal Islamic Center, a collection of small buildings and mobile homes around a mosque that's under construction. Two members said they did not know Kools under his family name or his Muslim name, Hasan Akbar.
From FNC*

Hey, Ramaz! I bet you would like this guy.

http://www.daveyd.com/commentarynewnatturner.html

Kia ora:

A letter from an Arab-American-Muslim Soldier:

January 28th, 2005

Written by Jamal S. Baadani

I wanted to personally reflect on, and share my thoughts with you about issues that affect Arab Americans in America – specifically, as to how we (Arab Americans serving in the military) are perceived by some in our own communities.

Most recently, APAAM has sent out articles and letters regarding subject matter relating to Arab Americans in the military, whether it is related to the desertion of Corporal Wassef Ali Hassoun, or the loss of Arab American lives, or injury of those brave soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines serving in Iraq . The criticisms to our e-mailings that have been received have been greater than any other period since the founding of APAAM shortly after 9/11.

We have received so many hateful comments and so much negative criticism by Arab Americans living among us in our communities. I am amazed at the extent of “hate” and “anger” that is directed towards us by those who are displeased and angry with Bush Administration’s Middle East and Iraq Policy. The specific criticism directed towards the death of Sergeant Rostum, and the injury of Lance Corporal Al-Thaibani, while serving in Iraq , is in my view wrong and crosses the line of citizenry.

“Sgt Rostum’s and LCpl Al-Thaibani’s sacrifice is a testament to their courage under fire, responsibility of duty to both their country and the Arab American Communities in America .” Their sacrifice reflects the true sentiment of the majority in our communities. However, to those within our community who criticize our “Duty”, I say to them….,

We have to choose who and what we want to be!

I’ve always said this and will continue to say this to my fellow Arab Americans and others of differing ethnicities in America-- “If you live in America , and you want to prosper in America , then you have to contribute to America .” “Duty” is an obligation that is required of everyone who is a citizen of this great country. Duty, as an obligation, dates back to the earliest historical days of mankind. Those who serve in the military could have chosen to be fireman, policeman, members of the Peace Corps, America Corps, or civil servants, as their “Duty” to our country. But they didn’t. They chose to serve in the military, recognizing that the ultimate sacrifice is to serve in the defense of freedom for one’s own country. As an example of the ultimate sacrifice, 228 years ago, a young Arab American Syrian Immigrant to the American Colonies understood the obligation of “Duty” to country by joining the 18th Continental Army; he helped fight for and win freedom for America from the tyranny of England-- Nathan Badeen gave his life in the revolutionary war so we could be free today.

Those serving in the military don’t always agree with the policies of the administration that guides our country, but do support the obligation of “Duty” to their country. The policies are left to the citizens of this country. Those who don’t agree with the current administration’s policies have a chance to affect change at the voting booth every two years. I serve my country on behalf of Arab American communities, honorably and faithfully, as a US Marine. I’ve served for the Reagan, Bush I, Clinton , and Bush II administrations. There have been numerous policies throughout my service in the military, yet the following has remained constant – that I volunteered to serve in the US Military and that I swore to uphold the constitution of the United States.

I know what it is to live abroad in a third world country, because I was born and raised in the Middle East . I immigrated to America at age 10. I am proud of my Arab culture and am proud of my heritage and Muslim religion. But that doesn’t excuse me from military service just because the US is engaged in war in the Middle East . Nor does it excuse me from military service because the US , for the past 25 years, has been engaged in some type of military operation in a Muslim country. I served in Beirut , Lebanon to help ensure peace of passage for the Palestinians in Lebanon in the early 80’s. I have served in operations to provide humanitarian assistance to citizens of Algeria and Tunisia , as well as serving in the Persian Gulf in 1988 to protect world-wide shipping from bombings and attack by Iran . Most recently, I served in the Global War on Terrorism, as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, to help rid the world of terrorism - terrorism that threatens everyone in the world, even those who criticize us for serving in the military.

In the 90’s, the US Military helped give freedom to Muslims in Kosovo and conducted humanitarian operations in Bangladesh – a Muslim country - when it was hit hard by a catastrophic typhoon. Today, the US military is involved in helping the victims of the Pacific Tsunami providing the largest humanitarian operation the world has ever known.

Semper Fidelis!

Black Muslims are the most violent, criminal racist hardcore elememt in the USA while liberal fools act like only Islam can deter them from a life of crime!

This is ridiculous. The judge should see Mark Fidel Kools (Middle name further evidence of a Red-Green alliance)/Hassan Akbar's behavior as clear evidence of the sort of man he is, and consider it in sentencing. However, you can probably bet the farm that we taxpayers will be supporting the creep for the rest of his natural life rather than see him shot or lethally injected.

Cross: We won't have a one-world government; at least not as conceived by the utopian left. We're not a pacific enough species, and if we somehow abolish international war, we'll have civil war.

muslims are being unfairly treated boo hoo, stop suicide bombing, beheading and generally acting like freaking lunatics and maybe peoples perceptions would change.

I honestly don't understand the reason for any contraversy here. Hassan Akbar was found guilty of first degree murder and richly deserves a sentence of death. I have little doubt that the court martial will impose that sentence. The judge (an Army officer) feels that the fact that Akbar attacked an MP during the trial is irrelevant to his sentencing for the crimes that he committed some two years ago. Why do you people want to second guess his decision?

The LGF crowd helped me find the information about Akbar stabbing the guard. It was scissors.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/002175.htm

". The judge in Sergeant Hasan Akbar's court-martial says he won't admit evidence of a fight that Akbar had last month with an M-P in the restroom at Fort Bragg's legal building."

Anybody else catch the terminology here? This wasn't an attack on his guard ... it was a "fight!" You know, a silly fight, like you know, between peers.

This judge's support (no other word for it) of a murderous traitor defies rational comment.

This judge is a loser. Get him off the bench! And don't waste the taxpayers' dollars in providing him any pension either.

If Akbar isn't executed for the murders he perpetrated upon his fellow-soldiers, we'll see more of the same.

Islamists owe no loyalty to any nation with physical borders; rather, their allegiance is to "the nation of Islam," a very nebulous concept which incorporates unquestioned support of an ideology which is the antithesis of Western civilization. They should not be in our armed forces because these fanatical inherents simply cannot be trusted.

Oh yeah, It's extremely doubtful this scum bag is going to do any dancing with the virgins in Allah land but I sure would like to have to eat my words if he does get sent to the big Mosque in the sky. I just don't see the lefties allowing the military to do that though. Hell,I wouldn't even be surprised if they downgrade his discharge to a bad conduct. In the good old days when the military ran the military this maggot would have been worm food about a month after he popped off those grenades.

Watchful Eye:

Saying that the judge should be disbarred is probably a bit harsh, considering you were not in that courtroom (or were you?, and are basing your judgment on the article... Wait... reserve judgment until verdict and sentence are rendered. We may all be pleasantly surprised.

Yes Akbar should be executed. No question, and so should anyone who carries out attacks like this.

"They should not be in our armed forces because these fanatical inherents simply cannot be trusted."

If this statement is limited to Islamists I concur. However, if in your view, it applies to all Muslims serving in the armed forces, I vehemently disagree. There are American Muslim soldiers fighting against terrorists in Iraq right now. They are putting their life on the line, just like all of the others so you can live in the society that you do. They deserve respect as any soldier would. This is not say that they
shouldnt be srutinised or kept an eye on. Of course they should. But don't disgrace the Muslim soldiers who do fight because they love America and to uphold the Constitution that they should not be allowed to serve.

Yours sincerely

Thomas

There is a certain logic wanting this guy to suffer capital punishment. Now he thinks he is heading for heaven. After all he murdered in cold blood for his jealous god. Where Jihadi are concerned, there may be a certain preference to mete out to these scum life imprisonment as a better punishment. Is it not better before he meets his fate that he be confined to a little cage for the rest of his life where he can reconsider this evil he has been taught about by his Satanic god, Allah. Perhaps a life time will give him time to reflect that the hell he wishes on others is precisely what he is waiting for and is just what he is deserving.

Thomas-

How many are Muslims in U.S. uniforms are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? The total official number in the armed services stands at about 4,000. Of that number, it seems that only a fraction, a handful, would be serving in either country. (40? 100?)

Some Muslims in the armed forces say that at least as many Muslims (4-6,000 more) are serving who have not declared their religious affiliation "to avoid being harassed".

Isn't this troubling in itself? (4,000 or more Muslim who are unknown, because they lied about their true faith?)

With the ongoing security threat, it might be better to allow alternative unarmed service, as homefront workers, for supporting roles like VA hospital staffing, etc. for Muslims.

The survival of the country is more important than the feelings of a part of the citizenry.

David England-

Unless you are willing to personally pay for his lifetime care, I say, spare us all the years of wasted cash that could be better spend on deserving kids, and give this guy a $1 bullet and be done with it.

In prison, all he would likely do is stab more guards, and get out on a technicality in 20 years.

Screw it. And screw him.

And spare me the sympathetic violin solos.

They don't know "Hearts and Flowers" in Baghdad anyway.

The judge ought to learn about Jihad:
Angelfire 164 Jihad Verses
http://www.angelfire.com/moon/yoelnatan/koranwarpassages.htm

Big Sleep:

Sure, your point is valid. Would it probably be better to offer Muslims non-military service if they feel they cannot fight against other Muslims? Probably.

But my point is, men like Jamal Baadani, a Muslim, who has fought on the front lines in the war on terror have fought bravely and deserve respect. All I am asking for is that these soldiers are respected. Asking them to take of their uniform, on account that they are Muslim is grossly unfair.

Profile them and watch them closely? Yes.

Would you have the courage to tell a man like Jamal Baadani that he should not fight, despite the fact that he has fought bravely, and loves his country? I know I wouldnt...

All I am saying is lets distinguish. And I know that this is not easy, particularly with Islam. But there are some damn good soldiers fighting in Iraq right now who are American and Muslim. And they have my respect. To disrespect them is to disrespect every other man who fought and died for the US.

Pay a visit to www.apaam.org.

Cheers mate

Thomas

The one thing i cannot understand is ,why have they failed to answer a grenade attack,(in a war situation),with deadly fire??!!

You have made your point, and well, Thomas.

What i find particularly pleasing is your good sense attitude that, of course the army must look more carefully at its moslem members.
It should, it must; and you are likely right - most moslems in the army are proud americans doing a good job.

Having written that, i am still concerned, such is my perception of islam, as, ultimately, unworthy, and of the messenger's life as an appalling example for humankind.

Which doesn't mean that you and other moslems in the army are not brave, fine people, all the more for the static you get from some other muslims, and the doubt from some non-muslims.

Good luck to you.

Sorry, Thomas - an army is meant to fight, not as a social experiment in which one gets to waste time wondering about the actual loyalties of its servicemen. Especially as we don't even know who many and how many there are of what.

It might be - though I don't say "certainly is" - time to make some changes in who gets to serve.

Geoff

Thomas-

Who has the time to "profile them and watch them closely" when you are trying to defend your country?

That divides the attention from the real object and weakens the forces' focus. One eye on the target, the other on your fellow soldier, sounds like a recipe for failure.

For Muslims to be left out of front line combat roles might be best for all. Then they won't have to feel that they are betraying their true allegiance -which is always to Allah and the Koran, first and foremost- and only later, and secondmost to any secular infidel non-Islamic state.

Or they are de facto apostates, and must worry about being killed by their fellow more-seriously believing co-religionists.

The honorable service of any follower of Islam in the past is fine, but times, as they say, have changed.

Given me a thousand undivided troops anyday.

So he thinks that he will get to heaven. That's simple. Paint him with bacon grease before his execution.

Thomas:
I may be harsh in my comments about the judge, but I believe that excluding Akbar's more recent attack from consideration is malpractice of justice (if there's any such term). You may also notice that I prefaced that comment with "defies rational comment." My cousin recently returned, safely, from Iraq; had he been one of Akbar's victims I would be screaming from the rooftops.

Please note that the antecedent of "they" is Islamists. But I will add that I have questions as to the loyalty of Muslims to any entity than "the nation of Islam," and there is absolutely no doubt that Islamists adhere to that concept. We walk a fine line here because just how do we determine who is an Islamist? "Good Moslems" could be given positions other than those in combat, where "friendly fire" casualties are easily accomplished and possibly excused or overlooked.

I appreciate your agreement on Akbar's execution. Anything less is unacceptable and dangerous.

I also commend Thomas' post. As a Christian, I hold no candle for Islam, but we need to go case by case in this sort of thing and respect the people who honorably serve. If we could afford to do it with the numbers of German-origin people in the USA during WWII, we can afford to do it with Muslims.

BigSleep: did it occurr to you that a number of "Muslims" in the US armed forces who do not report their affilliation may not simply wish to avoid harrassment, but may also be people exiting the religion? I mean, what would Ibn Warraq call himself in the purely hypothetical case of his enlisting in the US military? Like every other American institution, the US military mirrors the society it serves, and has people moving every which way passing through it. One of the problems with "Muslim" statistics is that mosques somewhere probably count those who have exited as part of the community--even if the exiters end up as Christian ministers (the Caner brothers and Anis Shourroush come to mind). People of Muslim heritage, like everyone else, come in all assorted types.

Attacking the MP with sizzors and stabbing him in the neck, is a clear assault with a deadly weapon, with the intent to kill or do great bodilly injury...we can assume for the purpose of escape....These are serious felononius crimes and he should have had additional charges placed on him. Someone is negligent in the performance of thier duties.
All crimes are instances of opportunism. You cant stab someone unless you have the opportunity to do so. So the judge was right, but his definition of it is word magic. Some kind of dhimmitude I suspect.

duh_swami:

Not necessarily dhimmitude, if the bench in the US is anything like it is in Canada, where a high court found a defendant not guilty of child porn because the slime he wrote was said to have artistic merit by some university professor (noting that at least it was grammatically OK). Nnteresting to note that later, this same creep ended up being prosecuted for sexually abusing a few men when they were boys who might otherwise have remained silent for the rest of their lives, but for this high profile case. (As a lawyer friend once told me, time wounds all heels.)

Mark Fidel Kools?

Is that Arabic for Mark Islamic menthol cigarettes?

this nut should definitely get the death penalty. Can they still put him in front of a firing squad ;)

Great post thomas.

(The judge (an Army officer) feels that the fact that Akbar attacked an MP during the trial is irrelevant to his sentencing for the crimes that he committed some two years ago. Why do you people want to second guess his decision?)

I am just wondering about this--could it be that the judge is setting him up for another trial on the attack??? if so I have no problem with his call on this. if not, then he is an idiot and should be removed from this and all other cases, just bounce him out on his ear.

COL Henley kept out the stabbing incident because it was not "directly relating to or resulting from" the crimes which Akbar was convicted of. This is a requirement for aggravating evidence to come in. While the stabbing incident is related to his court-martial, that still isn't enough to link the stabbing to the murders & attempted murders.

I'm sure COL Henley was thinking about how our appellate courts would review this case. The last thing we want is an appellate court reversing the sentence because COL Henley let in some aggravating evidence they think shouldn't have been let in.

There was plenty of aggravating evidence warranting the death penalty. Not only did you have the survivors of the attack testifying about the impact of Akbar's crimes and testimony from the deceaseds' family members (all commonly-known as "victim-impact" evidence), there was also testimony that the murders of the commander's 2 key strategists caused delay in the unit's securing Najaf, which led to the escape of several insurgents.