Iran Continues Pushing for Nukes

Putin cannot be unaware that an Iranian nuclear capability would not necessarily be limited to attacks on Israel, or to threaten American forces anywhere they could be reached. After World War II, the Soviet Union occupied part of northern Iran. They were finally compelled to leave. But Iran's Muslim fanatics remain interested not in giving Azeris in northern Iran greater autonomy, but in encouraging Islam to return wherever the Soviets managed to constrain or to crush its outward and visible signs of power. Surely Putin knows something about demography, knows that the entire Caucasus could be lost, knows that the oil of the Caspian could be used wisely, or could be used by inflamed Muslim minorities hellbent on seizing the revenues from Kashagan and other oilfields for the purposes of Islam.

Putin regrets, bitterly, Yeltsin's rather casual dismemberment of the Soviet Union. He must worry about the future shrinking of Russia, as well. Iran is part of the problem.

That is why he can be a bit more accommodating on Iran, but does not give a damn about Israeli worries over Russian anti-aircraft missiles for Syria. Syria does not threaten Russia. Iran does.

But Putin is wrong. The world can be divided between Muslim and Infidel states. Anything that allows the former to pose a greater threat to the latter should be of concern to all other Infidels. No Infidel state should in the future ever take the side of a Muslim polity or people -- not in Xinjiang, not in the Balkans, no where -- against Infidels. If, occasionally, the Infidels seem to be in the grip of some unacceptable leader such as Milosevich, then that particular leader, or regime, may be opposed. But it was crazy to ignore the amply-justified worries of the Serbs which allowed Miolsevich to come to power in the first place.

From Reuters, "Iran Says Will Restart Enrichment if Talks Fail"

Also known as cheat and retreat. Three steps forward and two steps back. Major taqiyya but then my fellow JihadWatchers already knew that.

It is simply beyond me why Europe continues to agree to more delay from Iran. They're in complete denial of all the facts. Then again, since Saudi Arabia is a strategic partner…
Iran has yet to go into negotiations with honorable intent. I expect they will delay the bad news a little while longer and make statements about how the deal wasn't sweet enough or if the Europeans wish to reconsider...
When they do pull out of negotiations, it leaves Israel with little option.
I have absolutely no doubt that Iran would use every nuke in their inventory on Israel. Of course Iran would cease to be. But for the IslamaFreaks that's ok, they've been waiting to be admitted to the great sky paradise all their lives.
I fear that the coming Arab-Israeli war may see the end of Israel. Egypt has loaded up with American tanks that outclass the Israeli home built Merkava. A genocide of Israel could spark a war in the mid-east and take us to the very edge of a much wider war.
Iran has got to be stopped, and it will have to be soon. Assembly of a nuclear device doesn't take long once you know how to build one. Iran has the insanity, the motivation, and soon the means to destroy Israel in one swift thermonuclear time on target. God help us if they succeed in building the bomb.
It is my view that for both Israel and the United States, Iran presents a clear and present danger.

David Brooks employed a gem of an expression in his NYT op-ed of this morning (Mourning Mother Russia) with respect to both Russia and China: Post-Totalitarian Stress Syndrome. And he continues with an excellent, succinct analysis about what happens "after the deluge":

When totalitarian regimes take control of a country, they destroy the bonds of civic trust and the normal patterns of social cohesion. They rule by fear, and public life becomes brutish. They pervert private and public morality.

When those totalitarian regimes fall, different parts of society recover at different rates. Some enterprising people take advantage of economic recovery, and the result of their efforts is economic growth.

But private morality, the habits of self-control and the social fabric take a lot longer to recover. So you wind up with nations in which high growth rates and lingering military power mask profound social chaos.

This is what we're seeing in Russia. It's probably what we would be seeing in Iraq even if the insurgency were under control. And most frighteningly, it could be what we will be seeing in China for decades to come.

Looking at the demographics'of Israel; I find it somwhat difficult for Iran to actually launch a nuclear missile into Israel without causing severe damage to the Paletinian people, however they may not even care about any collateral damage to Palestinians muslims given the way they treat each other. Maybe the Palestinians would be happy to die as martyrs or shahadists so as to defeat Israel, thus leaving nothing but a nuclear wasteland of mans inhumanity to man in the name of religion.

Maybe the Palestinians would be happy to die as martyrs or shahadists so as to defeat Israel, thus leaving nothing but a nuclear wasteland of mans inhumanity to man in the name of religion.

Posted by: Mackie at April 28, 2005 01:08 PM

succicienctly put,With knowledge that martyrs advance the fervor and desperation of islamic revenge .......so what better way to whip up fervor than to martyr a whole country.If it advances conduct and hatred needed to advance into the new caliphate then in the islamic mind it would "seem " to be a good recruiting strategy

"It's probably what we would be seeing in Iraq even if the insurgency were under control."

From David Brooks's New Duranty Times column.

Brooks still can't bring himself to see that the misallocation of resources in Iraq comes from the Great Intelligence Failure of the war, which is the failure to comprehend Islam, and how it affects everyone, and not only those who appear to be fervent Muslims, but also those born into a Muslim society who cannot escape, or cannot openly declare their interior dissent. He, Brooks, cannot recognize this because he has not studied enough. Compared to Friedman he may appear to be C. P. Scott of The Guardian, but he and all the others simply put one in mind of two earlier figures.

The first is Karl Kraus, who deplored the cheapness of Viennese journalism in the first decades of the 20th century -- a cheapness that compared to what we have now, was the Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition.

The second is Marina Tsvetaeva, who wrote a poem called "Newspaper Readers" ("Chitateli gazet") who become, from their navel to their forehead, simply one big newspaper.

Do not expect wisdom or enlightenment from the New Duranty Times, or any similar product here or elsewhere. It won't, can't happen. The odd journalist -- Dino Buzzati and Indro Montanelli come to mind -- may transcend his time. But most of it is dreck, and at the moment the dreck is dangerous.

Don't worry Israel will save the worlds ass just like it did in 1981, thats Israels place in the world. Like some sort of demented comic book, except instead of the hero being praised hes reviled, kinda like Jonnah Jameson and his anti spiderman rantings.

Hugh i think you are underestimating Israels military capabilites, if israel even senses something, they will have there entire airforce out to destroy every piece of arab armerment aircraft and sam within the blink of an eye no arab fighter planes will even have time to make it off the ground. The egyptians might have tanks but they and all the rest of the arab militaries are using an incompetent soviet style of command. Israel has 12 nuclear subs on patrol at all time. Check out the 1982 war between syria and Israel, Israel had a kill ratio of 82 to 0 so don't underestimate there capability. A country with nothing to lose is more dangerous than one could imagine.

I am always put in awe of the fact that a country of five million has defeated multiple Arab armies atatcking from all sides continuously. One small tiny nation of five million people holding back, humiliating and never bowing in the face of the focussed Nazi like hatred and pressure of one billion Muslims. Five million versus One Billion. How humiliating that must be for the soldiers of Islam, that they are swatted like an annoying mosquito by this Lion of Judah. How that must make their blood boil, their humiliation absolute, that this brave, inimitable nation of five million can hold back One Billion impotent and toothless Muslims. One Billion paper tigers, firing blanks, defeated and humbled by just five million Israelis.

My respect for Israel is virtually limitless.