Hasan Akbar update: "Diary: Soldier Wrote About Killing Buddies," from AP, with thanks to Michelle Malkin and Miira. In Onward Muslim Soldiers I wrote about Akbar's attack in conjunction with postings on Muslim bulletin boards in which the posters discussed joining the American military, going to the Middle East, and switching sides. That may not have been Akbar's plan from the beginning, but it does seem as if his attack was premeditated.
And again, the gorilla in the living room in this case is the loyalty of Muslim soldiers in the American military, particularly when the foe is Muslim and the Qur'an says that believers who kill other believers will land in hell (4:92).
Akbar, a Muslim convert, is accused of ambushing his fellow soldiers in their tents at an encampment in Kuwait in March 2003, during the opening days of the Iraq war. Two U.S. officers were killed.Prosecutors have said Akbar told investigators he was worried that U.S. forces would harm fellow Muslims in the Iraq war. They are seeking a premeditated murder conviction, which carries a possible death penalty.
In the entry dated Feb. 4, 2003, Akbar referred to mistreatment by his fellow soldiers:
"I suppose they want to punk me or just humiliate me. Perhaps they feel that I will not do anything about that. They are right about that. I am not going to do anything about it as long as I stay here. But as soon as I am in Iraq, I am going to try and kill as many of them as possible."
Another entry said: "I will have to decide to kill my Muslim brothers fighting for Saddam Hussein or my battle buddies. I am hoping to get into a position so I don't have to take any crap from anyone anymore."
Elsewhere, he wrote: "I may not have killed any Muslims, but being in the Army is the same thing. I may have to make a choice very soon on who to kill."...
This proves what should have been known long ago - no Muslims in the Military. I wonder what he thinks of all the Muslim terrorists killing innocent people in Iraq? Send him to his paradise by way of a hole in the ground accompanied by a pig.
I suggest giving all Muslims in the U.S. alternative service on the homefront, cleaning bedpans in lunatic asylums, erasing grafitti in ghetto neigborhods and planting gardens, picking up roadside trash, harvesting vegetables and fruits, landscaping in poorer areas, etc.
Since their 'conflict of faith' (and who they consider their "fellows") appears to be an impediment to honorable, trustworthy "armed" service, they can do all of those "jobs that Americans no longer want to do" that the government keeps using as excuse for allowing the illegal immigrant invasion.
As Quakers, etc. got c.o. status during previous wars, and did other, non-miltary jobs, so now the Muslims can assist in working to assist the country's needs, but not be something in battle that the rest of the soldiers have to worry about.
Two birds with one Iraq.
This is explanatory unto itself.
How, exactly again, is it that the West, or Westerners, or Christians, or Jews, or anything or anyone else that muslims do not approve of, should feel in any way bad or regretful that they should regard muslims with some concern? How EXACTLY is this our fault?
Shukki (Chuckie), Ia, you slobbering punks, have you anything to say of any bearing on this?
Geoff
According to what I understand from Sacred Law, Sgt. Akbar was obligated not to fight in Iraq. However, he also should not have attacked his fellow troops, for the simple reason that he had swore an oath of loyalty and it is prohibited to break one's oath or promise in Islam. He should instead have applied for conscientious objector status and refused to fight, come what may. His failure to obey Islamic Law is no cause or reason to demonise Islam.
Muslims living in the West
RS's section covering the Akbar attack is one of many reasons I think "Onward Muslim Soldiers" belongs on the US military's reading list.
The oath of loyalty that immigrants swear to the United States seems to mean little in today's world. Immigrants are allowed to hold dual citizenship which dilutes their loyalty to the U.S. as they don't give up "allegiance to other powers and principalities," and Muslims, whether homegrown or immigrant, are loyal to the ummah, the brotherhood of the world's Muslims, rather than to the United States. Thus, all Muslims are suspect.
Shukri posts this link, http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Questions/qa00002666.aspx , as an and/or clause. Here is a quote:
"Muslims are generally obliged to abide by the laws of the land and the country they live in, whether it is a Muslim state (al-khilafa), Muslim countries, or non-Muslim countries such as those in the west, as long as they are not ordered to practice something that is against Shariah."
What Shukri and Muslims fail to understand (to their detriment) is the West does not abide by the Shariah.
Oaths taken by Muslims in Western countries are null and void from the get-go.
I think the majority of non-Muslims on the site already know this.
Please refrain from obfuscation.
True epg,
The founding fathers intended for immigrants to be "dispersed" across the country so that they would assimilate and embrace the culture and heritage. What's happening now is that we have a Nation of Nations all bunched up in little concentrated areas and many can't speak english. Another huge negative is that they vote Democrat to get benefits. They don't pay in near enough to the system so the middle class pays for the deficit and eventually these immigrants will mulitiply to a point that they will swing the votes in some red states, keeping lying anti-American cultural marxist Libs on the payroll. The states with the most immigrants are CA, NY, IL, NJ, MA, FL, TX with TX and FL in danger of turning blue with immigrants. Also, we give most visas to relatives of new arrivals which are coming from poor under educated third world countries while not giving as many to a much better immigrant who hails from Europe.
This Sgt. Snackbar speaks like a true brainwashed Muslim zombie doesn't he?
Negative discourse can only be called "demonization" where unjustified, Shurki. I think your point about demonizing islam might be better made to those who act as demons in its name.
And, in point of fact, he obeyed islamic law. The Quran clearly states that muslims that kill other muslims will go to hell: not so?
Hence, Sgt. Snackbar's (LOL) decision to attack the intervention forces in Iraq, and our analysis of his decision.
Geoff
Re: Immigrants
From a post in this thread:
"They don't pay in near enough to the system so the middle class pays for the deficit..."
I read the JihadWatch posts for a better understanding of Islamic thought, not to read stereotypical generalizations about immigrants.
My immigrant wife of 30 years (naturalized in 1989) has worked contiuously in this country from 1977 to this day. I can assure you that she pays her fair share of both Federal, State, and local taxes (I just mailed our tax forms today).
The purpose of this blog, as I understand it, is to foster a better understanding of the many disturbing Islamic designs on we non-believers.
Am I confused here?
Every Western country should avoid employing (m)any Muslims in its Armed Forces, Police forces and Intelligence Agencies. As long as those three are protected from infiltration, then the country has a chance of self-preservation.
"Sacred Law"
Meaning some imam on the internet can spew anything he wants which may or may not be consistent with another Internet imam? Why not use astrology instead?
And what have we here?
Yet another act (or acts) of premeditated murder.
More proof (as if any more is needed)that Islam constitutes conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to commit genocide.
No doubt this guy's mosque leader or imam spurred him on to this act of cowardice.
Not that it changes anything, but the justifications for killing infidels in Islam are secondary and appear to be decided upon after a target for their human sacrifice (such as the United States' population aka 'white meat' as the mosque leaders have alluded to it for years)is already honed in on.
Dear Shukri,
This case may not be the definitive case on which to base a final judgment of Islam...
However, the reason to 'demonise' or--here's a better word-- 'repudiate' Islam is that it is designed to slaughter human beings without remorse. Which it has been doing without letup for nearly 14 centuries. Nothing you can say will either change the nature of Islam nor stop it from continuing its mass slaughter. Islam is a killing machine unmatched in recorded history.
Don't bother denying it. Because we already know from the historical record all we need to know about Islam.
And by the way. Just how do you know anything your imam has taught you is true???
Has it ever occurred to you that you're the one who has been lied to and not us? Think about it-
Not only was he a Muslim, he was a black Muslim, the worst of them all!
Off topic my post was, on target it is. The facts stand Bob.What is it you don't understand about the problems of mass immigration? America of today is very different from the 70's my friend. Your family may be an exception. I hope you are not confused enough to vote Democrat but something tells me you do.
Is there some input or comment regarding Islam you would like to post? Anything constructive that would enlighten a person such as myself who is apparently very insensitive and not politically correct?
When Sergeant Hasan Akbar said:
"I will have to decide to kill my Muslim brothers fighting for Saddam Hussein or my battle buddies. I am hoping to get into a position so I don't have to take any crap from anyone anymore."
he likely meant that he wanted the mission to be a suicide mission. Thus, he waited until they were in Kuwait where everyone would be well-armed, and they would assume he was an insurgent who broke into camp. If everything went according to his plan, he would become a martyr.
Another reason Akbar waited until going to Kuwait was he was born and raised Muslim in America by his mother. A common belief among Muslims is they will have greater glory and rewards in heaven if they die in Jihad outside of their own country. So waiting until he was in Kuwait would confer him maximum benefits in Islamic heaven since he would die fighting in Jihad outside his own country (the US):
Exhibit A: Allah smiles on Muslims who emigrate to practice their faith (K 004:097),
Exhibit B: "He said his son was referred to as a martyr because, according to the Koran, anyone who dies outside of his country is considered one and therefore worthy of congratulations" (Filkins, Dexter. "Tortuous Trail: From a Bombing in Iraq to Fury at a Family in Jordan," nytimes.com, 15 Mar 2005, natashatynes.org).
Exhibit C: "Those who, in their wills, accept burial away from home are conferred special celestial benefits" (Blair, Sheila S. & Jonathan M. Bloom (editors). Images of Paradise in Islamic Art. Hood Museum of Art, Dartmouth College, Hanover, New Hampshire, U.S.A., 1991, p. 28).
"I read the JihadWatch posts for a better understanding of Islamic thought, not to read stereotypical generalizations about immigrants.
The purpose of this blog, as I understand it, is to foster a better understanding of the many disturbing Islamic designs on we non-believers.
Am I confused here?"
--from a posting above.
No, you are right.
The purpose of this blog is to increase awareness of the nature, and varied instruments, of Jihad, and of the treatment of non-Muslims under Muslim rule (as dhimmis). News items about events which might otherwise seem confusing, or unrelated, are offered up as examples of the Jihad: through terrorism, or military force, or use of the "wealth" weapon, or Muslim propaganda (including Da'wa, the Call to Islam), and of course through demographic changes in the Western world, and unceasing demands on that world to modify itself to accommodate Muslim sensibilities.
As to dhimmis, though this is not a history course on-line, as much is offered about the historic treatment of non-Muslims (Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, and others) once their lands had been subjugated as can reasonably be assimilated.
Postings are not monitored, and not every poster, before entering the saloon, chooses to dismount from his political hobbyhorse, but will clop-clop right through the swinging doors and straight up to the bar, to demand, in a loud voice, something to drink (more "gimme a shot of whiskey" or "pongame una cerveza" rather than "I would like a glass of that 1978 Nuits St.-Georges, please"), and then turn and look menacingly about, and begin to tell his own tale.
This can get in the way of Jihad and Dhimmitude. Dhimmitude and Jihad.
One would like yet again to request that hobbyhordes be tied up to the bollard nicely placed at the entrance, and also -- please remove your holster with its loaded gun, and leave them with Doc Watson, the powerfully-built fellow sitting just outside those swinging doors. He will return them to you on your way out.
Thank you, Hugh.
Cross, my wife and I are:
Not exceptions.
Don't live in a concentrated little Nation of Nations.
As for me:
I've posted before. With facts.
You make an ass out of just yourself when you make assumptions about my political involvement.
I could never be your friend.
And if you still think that your post is on target, then you're not just an insensitive and politically incorrect poster. No, Cross, you're just a loud-mouthed, ignorant clown.
The site is called JihadWatch. Not Bash Legal, tax-paying immigrants.
You can apoligize anytime, if you're man enough.
Sgt Akbar is proof that muslims should not serve in the US military. " You cant serve two masters',is relevant here. Muslims will serve the interests of Allah, Islam, the Quran and the traditions of Mohammad first. Thier oath is to Allah...all other oaths are secondary and only serve as a convienient means to an end, and can be abandoned at any time. Akbars oath to the US and it's military are in this catagory, a means to an end only...this should be a lesson to the alert, unfortunatly, the "alert" are the infidels already alerted. The rest are falling for dhimmitude and muslim BS propaganda, aided and abetted by political correctness, from the left primarilly. Fortunatly, the population of the "alert" is growing, thanks to the internet and sites like this one...keep reading, stay informed, information is power...swami
Just returned from 18 holes, score 84, maybe this will be the year I break 80. What a glorious day to be in America. Blue skies, chirping birds and the banter of friendly golfers, can it get any better.
I will repost the post that got Bob and Hugh’s panties twisted.
True epg,
The founding fathers intended for immigrants to be "dispersed" across the country so that they would assimilate and embrace the culture and heritage. What's happening now is that we have a Nation of Nations all bunched up in little concentrated areas and many can't speak English. Another huge negative is that they vote Democrat to get benefits. They don't pay in near enough to the system so the middle class pays for the deficit and eventually these immigrants will multiply to a point that they will swing the votes in some red states, keeping lying anti-American cultural marxist Libs on the payroll. The states with the most immigrants are CA, NY, IL, NJ, MA, FL, TX with TX and FL in danger of turning blue with immigrants. Also, we give most visas to relatives of new arrivals which are coming from poor under educated third world countries while not giving as many to a much better immigrant who hails from Europe.
Posted by: Cross at April 14, 2005 09:16 PM
This post is factual and is truthful. It’s 100% accurate and if people like Bob don’t like it then it’s their problem.
Bob says “you're just a loud-mouthed, ignorant clown”. Excuse me? Who is the intolerant one here? In America, it’s people like Bob who if they don’t like something quickly play the racist or phobic card and start name calling. They do this to get history and the facts changed to suit them. It’s really disgusting and makes me want to puke. As for this statement “You can apoligize anytime, if you're man enough”, I would ask you Bob, do you ever apologize to your poor wife who has worked since 1977 when a real man would have been more successful so she wouldn’t have to work?
And then there’s Hugh, riding in on his high horse. No need to dismount, he brushes all the cowboys aside and recites the mission statement while frequently glancing admirably at the Hall Monitors’ badge he has so proudly pinned to his chest. He also says such wonderfully intellectual things such as without European culture the West would be comical. Seems that this falls outside the mission statement Mr. F. If he ever came within 10 feet of a real horse one could expect to hear ewwww that equine is emitting an awfully foul stench that offends my snooty nostrils, let’s go back inside and sip a $30.00 bottle of mediocre wine like a 1978 Nuits St.-Georges, my treat. Bon Appetit. I’ve got news, California wines rival the worlds best and there is still a boycott on French swill in the US by real patriots.
That’s enough I don’t want to overload you with facts, you two are funny, but I luv ya. Lol
I repeat, Cross.
You're just a loud-mouthed ignorant clown.
And a jerk, to boot.
Bob C,
I am from Cuba. My wife is from another communist country. I don't pretend to speak for the majority of immigrants, but I do speculate that the most come here just to get a better job. I don't think most come here with a premeditated desire to go "on the take" for welfare benefits etc. Nonetheless, poor border control, irresponsible hiring practices, and leftist brainwashing of immigrants (not so hard due to their low level of education)* has resulted in a very serious crisis.
Even if I do not agree with everything Cross says, Cross makes some points that are important. I agree that immigrants who want to change the culture, or refuse to appreciate that rights that make America so great have no business being here, much less voting or running for office.
Being an immigrant myself, and being friends of many immigrants (some that came illegally) it saddens me to have to close the door on so many innocent people, but America has ever right to protect itself. You're the one who really needs to lighten up.
* BTW: Most Hispanics do not even want bilingual education. The real oppressors of Hispanics are the leftists who push this claptrap.
Wow. Looks as if a lot of people are demanding whisky today. . .
Rublev,
If you believe, as Cross does, that all immigrants, without qualification, do not pay enough into the system, that is for you to rationalize.
To bring you up to speed on my differences with Cross, please pay attention to the following chain of events.
Cross stated (referring to immigrants)
"They don't pay in near enough to the system so the middle class pays for the deficit..."
I responded, without using his name, to THAT portion of his post with the following:
"I read the JihadWatch posts for a better understanding of Islamic thought, not to read stereotypical generalizations about immigrants.
My immigrant wife of 30 years (naturalized in 1989) has worked contiuously in this country from 1977 to this day. I can assure you that she pays her fair share of both Federal, State, and local taxes (I just mailed our tax forms today).
The purpose of this blog, as I understand it, is to foster a better understanding of the many disturbing Islamic designs on we non-believers.
Am I confused here?"
CROSS chose the following patronizing response:
The facts stand Bob. What is it you don't understand...
Hugh responded to my query of "am I confused here?" with:
"No, you are right.
The purpose of this blog is..."
Hugh also requested that cowboys, such as Cross, leave their loaded guns and political hobby horses outside the saloon.
I responded to Cross with:
And if you still think that your post is on target, then you're not just an insensitive and politically incorrect poster. No, Cross, you're just a loud-mouthed, ignorant clown.
Cross, a bigot who cannot differentiate between fact and fiction, responded with:
This post is factual and is truthful. It’s 100% accurate and if people like Bob don’t like it then it’s their problem.
He was also less than happy with Hugh's response.
So, you see Rublev, my differences with Cross aren't about where an immigrant comes from, or poor border control, or irresponsible hiring practices and leftist brainwashing, or whom your friends are. It has nothing to do with changing the culture, or voting, or running for office, or closing the door on innocent people, etc.
It's about an arrogant fool making an erroneous blanket statement who cannot bring himself to admit that he is wrong.
It is also about using this site to express such unfactual, and unrelated views.
Perhaps you should reconsider who needs to lighten up.
Bob
Bob, you should have quit before you went and put your other foot in your mouth. Just as I predicted, Bob (ain’t that a bitch) C had to resort to name calling and acting as if he is a victim of racism. This behavior is classic and easily predictable from people on the left.
I hope you made sure you cleaned the house, vacuumed the rug, washed the clothes, fed the cat, and got dinner ready before your wife came home today. Wouldn’t want to get into trouble now would you.
Bobby, here are the facts, put them in your crack pipe and smoke it.
First of all, since you have been here a while you are exempt from my profile, likewise refugees from communist countries are also exempt. However, the mass immigrants of today move to the party of Government, i.e. Democrat and I already stated the reason why but to be specific they are free schools, housing subsidies, health care, welfare, social security, prisons not to mention more environmental pressure on land, water, power resources etc pushing the cost of today’s immigration at $108 billion a year by 2006 Check the numbers, immigrants don’t pay in $108 Billion a year. But feel free Bob to call the Americans that pick up the remaining tab names like bigot and racist when we point out that immigration does not benefit any one other than immigrants.
You are a riot, Lol.
I watched this case live during the embedded
reporting and as soon as the soldier was indentified as a Muslim the story was shut tight and further media coverage claimed it was a
attack with unknown motives and several versions of what happened.
There was one witness that stated the killer
admitted to being trained to kill Americans when the chance came up,and he ranted about his "Brother's" in Iraq being harmed.
The guy was a Muslim weasel and there are far more weasels in the Army and Government that the Politicians are telling its Citizens about.
Well, Cross, here we go again.
You are just so full of assumptions.
Your profile?
Who the hell are you?
Yes, I've been here a while. I was born in the United States. Your assumptions are truly amazing.
Me, a victim of racism? A person on the left? How presumptuous of you. You have no idea of my race or political beliefs.
Yes, my wife is working as I write. And from each paycheck, fair and appropriate taxes always witheld.
If she just hung around the house, she couldn't be contributing to our country, now could she. And that would fit quite nicely with your bigoted view of immigrants.
This argument started because of your ridiculous assertion that immigrants, without qualifying your statement, don't pay in near enough to the system. Did you mean all immigrants, or just the ones you don't like. Newly arrived immigrants, or the ones who've been here for decades--like my wife. Go ahead, bud, impune them all.
I'll start a list of the immigrants that apparently don't contribute enought to the system:
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Stuart Varney
Leonard King
I'm sure you might be able to come up with few more names.
No, Cross, my wife HAS benefited you, me, and this country.
I don't know that you are a racist, but you most certainly are a bigot.
And an ignorant, loud-mouthed clown.
And every stupid post you make reinforces that.
No. You keep the crack pipe. It must be just about time for another rock, ain't it Cross?
ROTFLOL Bob you are a hoot and a half. Relax Bob, I’m not with the IRS or INS. You display a deeply rooted psychological paranoia that probably started around 1977 and will require years of intensive therapy to get you well. I bet whenever you and your wife go somewhere you are on the constant vigil for anyone looking at you with a questioning eye. When people see you and her coming they don’t make eye contact for fear of you freaking out and making a scene and calling them bigots. You’re right it’s best I handle that crack pipe. If this is how you are straight I would hate to see you when you’re high. ROTF
And every stupid post you make reinforces that.
No doubt about it.
Guys...I"m not taking sides, I dont know anyone, I'm not involved in the issues or discussion, but I want you to know, that after spending the day in the trenches, fighting terrorism, it's fun to see such a spirited debate
thats basically OT, but highly entertaining just the same...I got a lot from it, was it good for you too?...just joking, hope you all have long life and prosperity...swami
Cross--
We agree with you there's no need to purchase French wines--ever. Even if they are good (and are).
However, many wine connoisseurs (please excuse my french)simply LOATHE California wines...as being glorified grape juice and mediocre-tasting (unless if you like grape juice).
There's no reason not to buy Italian wines...
p.s.--Beware of people who are having "some wine"....They don't usually know squat about this potable. Care for 'some wine'?
Mr pythagorashead,
No one is impressed by your psudeo wanna be intellectualism. Your thinly veiled insult to my American patriotism makes you look rather small. You now have put one foot in your mouth, care to make it two?