The next Pope and Islamic prophecy

""Europe will see that it suffers from materialistic culture, "

Speaking of materialism, some jewelry shops here in Saudi Arabia stock - as opposed to special ordering - $250,000 Rolexes.

Prophecy? Or fantasy? Time will tell.

They need to understand that there is a big difference between prophecy and wishing for something.. I'll take your 'prophecy' and I'll raise you something a bit more heavy weight.

"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. "

We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it. Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam…"

Wishful thinking.

At the heart of all this rant, is the desire to take the wealth of Europe. Loot and brigandage, in keeping with the koran and the example set by mohammed, is what motivates muslim ideologues.

I would think the first thing the imam needs do, is to get himself and his family, off welfare.
Beggars are in no position to be conquerors.

Europe needs those who love their own culture, as much in return, to counter this new, soft Islamic invasion.

Theo Van Gogh was one.

The lesson of his resistence, and slaughter on the streets of Amsterdam, seems to have been all-but-forgotten in Europe, where cheap vacation condos in Turkey or discount tours of Egypt appear to mean more to them than the survival of the Civilization that gave us Democracy, Liberty, Equality, Science, the idea of a Constitution, Philosophy, Psychology, universal human rights and Art (from Altamira onward).

The only hope are Europe's women, who may be less-inclined, than their socialistically-neutered men, to bow to a 7th century serfdom.

Bodicea and Hypatia, call your sisters.

Every person I know who has lived in Europe recently, or is still there, says the same thing. That Europe is finished, it is too late.

As I see it, there is only one way to save Europe from the Islamic savages - no more Muslim immigration and the immediate deportation of any Muslim who breaks the law (that should get rid of most Muslims).

It is too late for dismembering the idiot laws that allowed this situation to occur ; it is too late for any kind of 'education' - you cant educate 7th century barbarians.

Does anyone here believe that Europeans will fight this invasion? Judging by the last time, we know the answer to that question.

America -- let this be a lesson. Look to Europe for your future if you don't take steps to reverse the trends that are occurring on North America.

"The only hope are Europe's women, who may be less-inclined, than their socialistically-neutered men, to bow to a 7th century serfdom."

Hmmm why is it that the socialist party get 2 female votes each male, and the only party, atleast till some few years, highly sceptical about immigration got 2 male votes for each female ?

The difference is going to be between those with the power to act, the skill to fight, and those that will pull the trigger when need be if it comes to that, and does which can´t.

Anyway their prophetic ramblings have base in the hope that they can actually islamize the world that this hope gets strangled before it grows to high in level is imperative. Their hate we can´t change nor can we keep em from their jihadi ideas.
But we could keep armed forces strong enough to deal with any combined threat.

And I say combined because the islamic world will fall apart before it´s strong enough to fight us on it´s own and stand a chance.

But if we go 20 years ahead, China will have an army strong enough to match our immediate expedition force in fact total force, especially if NK goes along.
And if it hasn´t given up the plan of taking Taiwan, then do it, and feel noone can stop it. This could cause USA and followed probably by Europe to declare war.

While our military forces are away and getting decimated in Asia the seeting Arab world where islam has started to crumble, but hate towards us and Israel have probably grown. And a few decades of high oilprices have made their economies relatively stronger compared to ours, and all these oil states have kept building better and better armies. Now whether they have "fundamentalists" at power or not, they might just attack not only Israel but Europe as well ( Europe is the obstacle that have to be removed and conquered before USA - and have then even greater moslem minorities you can count on helping ) The only thing that keeps them from it now are that they currently don´t have a chance! With our troops dying in Asia they might see their moment and may even have talked secretly with China, NK, about smiting our neck.

When this happens there is only one way to win, and it´s not conventional.

The hope they express again here, there is only one way stop it, we can´t occupy all the arab world and demand deislamification just like that.
That is to keep and maintain much stronger forces than we currently have, and that goes most of all for Europe which need to minimum double it´s force in most fields and get a army of only professionals. A slight lead won´t be enough, to keep either China from it´s territorial ambitions or the arab world from eating it´s hate.

If China attacks Taiwan and we decide to defend it, then things might just start to get out of control.

"The only hope are Europe's women, who may be less-inclined, than their socialistically-neutered men, to bow to a 7th century serfdom."

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's true. If anything, Western women are more clueless than the men. See my post:

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/04/confessions-of-ex-feminist.html

Confessions of an Ex-Feminist

"Every person I know who has lived in Europe recently, or is still there, says the same thing. That Europe is finished, it is too late."

I'm still in Europe, and I don't think it's too late.

Perhaps Mo was a Prophet after all.
The EU is despirit to give up to anyone as long as it is not America culture.

"Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya"

So I guess no Christians will be paying the Jizya?

BigSleep says,

"Europe needs those who love their own culture, as much in return, to counter this new, soft Islamic invasion."

The history of the European states has proven to be one of a ultra-nationalist tendency.

That trend may have waned during the latter part of the 20th century due to the violent expression of fascism, but when "push comes to shove", that age-old trait will kick in again.

The West, the European West, will not submit their culture to overthrow by the impotent, yet "wannabee" thrust of a dying mediaeval age.

It may not appear to be so, but all of Europe has pride and will not go down easily because of their past nationalistic trend.

I happen to agree with Wolfgang Bruno, http://wolfgangbruno.blogspot.com/ , when he states,

"It (Islam) prospered because its ethos makes it very successful as a medieval war machine when men fought with swords, bows and spears."

And then rightly concludes,

"But these same qualities are handicaps for Muslims in the age of the microchip. Islam’s ritualistic practices inculcate blind obedience among its followers and not questioning inquisitive minds."

Europe may be secular and atheistic, but their ingenuity, based on their nationalistic pride, will keep them from retrogression.

TBH_1 & Norwegian Kafir-

I cite Hirsi Ali, Oriana Fallaci

(see her thought at:

http://www.borg.com/~paperina/fallaci/fallaci_1html )

& Camille Paglia, among others...

As examples for Europe's women, as they wake up to the threat -that will hit them hardest and last longest- to draw inspiration, valour and cunning from.

It may not happen for a year or two, but once they get smacked in the face by the brute misogyny of Islam, they'll respond.

And then Muslim men should begin to walk with their hands over their crotches if they ever want to make The Hadj -intact.

Charles Martel must be spinning in his grave...

Zeropeans are not having children. Why the hell should they care about what happens to their countries? They have no children to worry about. I CANNOT believe that my culture stems from theirs and my genes come from there. I have NOTHING in common with zeropeans. You have made your politically correct bed, now you get to die in it.

I would jump ship if I were you Norwegian kafir

Let's stop our own wishful thinking. I believe that the Islamic threat to Europe is a punishment from God for turning from Christ and His Holy Catholic Church. We must turn again and kneel at the foot of the Cross.

Also, European women must lay off the contraception. Take it from me, nothing unsettles an Islamic man or woman more than the sight of a Christian woman who has rejected contraception. It seems to be taken for granted among them that only Islamic women have many children.

Economically too, it seems that a growing population is the power house for economic growth. The teachings of the Catholic Church are being vindicated as we speak.

In the same way thet europe stood back and did nothing when Hitler invaded Chekoslavakia but acted whem Poland was invaded, as soon as the first european "falls' to Islam, i believe the rest of europe will react.
It may take a new Churchill to do this but it cannot be that Europeans have become so weak-willed that they will allow all their countries to succomb one by one.
Strangely this time it could be the eastern european countries who help out the western ones.

TB-H, BiSleep, TB111, I'm afraid I'm with Norwegian Kafir on this one. I have faith neither in women, European ingenuity nor the Communist powers of the Far East. European iongenuity seems to consist of "What's the best way to get those stupid Yanks or Russians to pull our chestnuts out of the fire this time, so we can safely sit back with our lousy cigarettes, stinky cheese, and over-priced wine to bloviate on what barbarians our saviors are?"

My wake-up on feminism came when I heard one erstwhile fire-breather SisterPower type talk about how it might be necessary to give up some of our liberty to accommodate the Muslims. With no bearded Taliban anywhere for miles, she was already the perfect Dhimmi! Norwegian Kafir's link has made me all the more pessimistic; for I've seen the same kind of logic among my own people. As for Oriana Fallacci, I think she is a marvelous, courageous, clear-eyed writer who knows the problem and on which side Yurrupp's bread is buttered, but she is also battling cancer and won't be with us much longer--although I do pray her cancer goes into total remission.

Don't bet on China, either. It's elite has also decided that sterility is the wave of the future; and China has always been much better at turning in on itself than pushing outwards. There are signs of it already happening again as the government finds it harder to keep news of rural unrest and labor discontent from the rest of the world. If Wei Jingsheng is any harbinger of a coming, post-Communist China, he's cut from the same No God, No Masters Jacobin cloth as the fine folks who have brought you the assisted suicide of Europe--and who informed the Chinese intelligentsia of 1919-49, who cheered the Communist victory in 1949. As for North Korea joining them in punishing the Muslims, don't forget that North Korea, beyond its military and elite, is currently starving to death--even resorting to cannibalism (of children) and necrophagy in parts of its countryside. Yes, they're tough, brave soldiers, but once their first wave gets shot down, or see enough to undo the brainwashing they've gotten, there're only scarecrows to replace them. North Korea is also seeing its economic salvation in selling nuclear technology and missiles to radical Islamicists and narcotics to the rest of us.

And, as an American, I'd be cautious about which beaten folks from beaten countries across the pond whom we let in should the above guess come true. In the last batch of European refugees, we got such cultural cancer cells as Herbert Marcuse and Berthold Brecht (it was good that the latter fell afoul of McCarthy and went to his own place--East Germany). If Norwegian Kafir is right about Euro-feminism, I'm staking the proverbial farm that the typical European feminist or socialist won't have learned squat even after their own daughters have been raped--excuse me, until after their own selves have been raped, for I'm sure any daughters they ever had got aborted.

Also, DP111, those imams on the dole aren't beggars--they've just started brazenly looting their latest conquest.

Dr Paul Marshall, senior fellow at the Centre for Religious Freedom in Washington, estimates that there are 200 million Christians who face violence because of their faith, and 350 million who face legally sanctioned discrimination in terms of access to jobs and housing.

The World Evangelical Alliance wrote in a report to the UN Human Rights Commission last year that Christians are `the largest single group in the world which is being denied human rights on the basis of their faith'.
But the BBC and all the mainstream pubs despite being funded by christian money shamefully ignores this tottally whilst ridiculising the Christian religion and banning any criticism of Islam.
Black christians, victims of Muslim persecution ,are not seen as Black victims but as white Christians who are not worthy of qualifying as victims.

For example,In Egypt,The Copts of Egypt make up half the Christians in the Middle East. They were there before the muslim conquest.
By law they are banned from being president of the Islamic Republic of Egypt or attending Al Azhar University, and severely restricted from joining the police and army. By practice they are banned from holding any high political or commercial position. Under the 19th-century ‘Hamayouni decrees’, Copts must get per-mission from the president to build or repair churches - but he usually refuses. Mosques face no such controls. Government-controlled TV broadcasts anti-Copt propaganda, while giving no air-time to Copts. It is illegal for Muslims to convert to Christianity, but legal for Christians to convert to Islam. Christian girls - and even the wives of Christian priests - are abducted and forcibly converted to Islam, recently prompting mass demonstrations. A report by Freedom House in Washington concludes: `The cumulative effect of these threats creates an atmosphere of persecution and raises fears that during the 21st century the Copts may have a vastly diminished presence in their homelands.'

Catholicsism is a prime cause of the fall of Communism, the Muslims do not have a credible defense against it, and as we are becoming more aware of the lack of its theology, it is an anti thesis to Christianity and Judaism, we are able to counter the denial and plagerism which they plug away with.

The topic which you have posted about the Muslims desire to have the vatican as a spoil, is rubbish.
"You are Peter and upon this rock I build my Chhurch and the gates of the underworld shall never prevail against it.