"Why do they call every pious person a terrorist? They (the family) only pray and read the Quran"

Why do they call "every pious person" a terrorist? Well, maybe it's little matters like this suicide bombing. From another Bashandi story: "Egyptian Police Arrest 30 in Cairo Bombing," from AP, with thanks to Lisa:

CAIRO, Egypt - Egyptian police have detained 30 people in last week's deadly bombing in a Cairo tourist bazaar, including the suspected bomber's mother, three brothers and 16 other relatives, prosecutors said.

Police arrested the family members after identifying the body of the bomber, who died in the blast that killed two French tourists and an American and wounded 18 others Thursday in Cairo's Khan al-Khalili bazaar. Among those arrested was an uncle who called authorities after seeing the suspected bomber's body in a newspaper photograph.

The suspect, Hassan Rafaat Ahmed Bashandi, was a student who became a religious extremist after his father's death, the Interior Ministry said....

In the tiny apartment, police found CDs containing data downloaded from the Internet on waging Islamic holy war and building bombs. At Bashandi's aunt's house, police found 43 fireworks from which the gunpowder had been removed....

Mamdouh Raafat, a neighbor who knew the family for two decades, denied that Bashandi was an extremist.

"Why do they call every pious person a terrorist? They (the family)only pray and read the Quran," he said. "They don't flirt with girls and they don't get involved in streets fights ... They don't even smoke."

Well! They pray and read the Qur'an! How could they have turned out to be terrorists! It's...unheard-of!

Note also the arrests of the mother, etc. But I thought CAIR told us during the Fox 24 flap that families weren't involved in jihad terrorism together. Can you folks explain that to us, please? Nihad? Omar? Ibrahim? Hussam? Arsalan? Rabiah? Anyone? Anyone?

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Mr. Spencer-

Any info on the American young man killed?

From what passing mention there is on the national news, it appears he was in Africa spreading the Gospel, and thus may have been tracked by the bomber(s).

The new question then would be:

"Why do the jihadis attack pious people with terrorism? They only pray and read the Bible."

Anyone have the guy's name or more backround to him or the motivation for this slaughter?

A Tax Day Haiku for you:

Sudden memory-
Allahpundits "Jihadprints"-
Family Jihad!

Peaceful pious bombs
Misunderstanding Islam
Silly MOIs

Geoff

Allah's people free
No compulsion in islam
Unless you're muslim

Geoff

Mr Spencer

Your sarcasm and witty commentary is getting better and better. Hammer down good buddy!

DennisW

R. Spencer:"Note also the arrests of the mother, etc. But I thought CAIR told us during the Fox 24 flap that families weren't involved in jihad terrorism together. Can you folks explain that to us, please? Nihad? Omar? Ibrahim? Hussam? Arsalan? Rabiah? Anyone? Anyone?"

"Note also the arrests of the mother, etc. But I thought CAIR told us during the Fox 24 flap that families weren't involved in jihad terrorism together. Can you folks explain that to us, please?

It is common in Egypt and other M.E countries that families of suspected "Islamists" are tortured in front of them in order to win confessions and the like. I'm sure that most of the commentators on this board approve of it, no?

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Shukri~ NO. Clear enough?

I don't approve either. But why are muslim countries torturing people anyway? I thought that was against islam. I just assumed that in a country with sharia law, this kind of thing wouldn't go on.

Shurki can now explain why this is so.

Geoff

Shurki i didn't know that u could access Jihadwatch from Saudi Arabia or is it Iran, because the drivel you spout comes straight from the Saudi Ministry's playbook of deflection and misdirection.

You know Shukri,

You really should bone up on your "authentic" hadiths.
like:

Tabari VIII:122/Ishaq:515

“The Prophet gave orders concerning Kinanah to Zubayr, saying, ‘Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him.”

Mohammed, the perfect example for ALL TIME.

Since the banana republic of Egypt produces nothing and its economy relies almost exclusively on tourism, Mubaraq is afraid that terrorism will scare away the silly suicidal tourists that visit this Muslim nation anyway.

The entire family participates in the jihad for the same reason they continue to mutilate little girls (FGM)---they're a bunch of sand savages.

Why do they call "every pious person" a terrorist?

It's because in Islam, "piety" IS "terrorism." That's it's Islamic definition.

P.S.

Why does Shukri bother posting here?

We're on to Islam, after all.

An important bulletin from MEMRI today. Its seems that the Arab League ambassador to Britian, no less, still advocates that Israel was involved in 9/11. And if an Arab League ambassador is willing to argue this, what about the thousands of imams and lower functionaries throughout Arab and Muslim societies infected with a similar Jew-hatred.

http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD89305

Classic Arab-Muslim irrationality that does not go away, not even with admissions from Bin Laden himself.

"We are your friends. We are compatible. It is the Zionists, Israel, uh, the Jews, who are the source of all your troubles, and ours. They conspire against you. We are peaceful. We are obligated by Sacred Law to obey your laws. You only fear us because of what others do, not us. If you are afraid, you are ignorant and have only allowed those who conspire against us to influence you.

We are your friends. Let us join together to build a peaceful world based on justice, mutual understanding and respect."

Shukri: Note also the arrests of the mother, etc. But I thought CAIR told us during the Fox 24 flap that families weren't involved in jihad terrorism together. Can you folks explain that to us, please?
It is common in Egypt and other M.E countries that families of suspected "Islamists" are tortured in front of them in order to win confessions and the like. I'm sure that most of the commentators on this board approve of it, no?

Linda: Shukri, if you are relying on a PC statement from Fox (that was forced upon them by CAIR) then you are seriously misinformed and also quite pathetic... can't you think for yourself? Or, do you need Fox to think for you? Hmmmm... female muslim.

Regarding your comment on islamist families being "tortured" in order to win confessions, I invite you to view the beheadings of Daniel Pearl, et al... not only do your brutal brother/sister muslims murder in the name of allah, they also encourage confessions before the victims are beheaded. I'm sure you islamists approve of this q'ran sanctioned punishment for disbelief, right?

Your reply is invited, but be aware that we've had too many taquiyya patties thrown at us for too many years and the dhimmi's are on your ass. Speaking of your ass, how bout you high-tail that ass back to the desert and take a free burqua compliments of the United Effing States of America!

Regards from the biggest baddest female infidel you'll ever encounter in your miserable life.

Linda

Since the banana republic of Egypt produces nothing and its economy relies almost exclusively on tourism, Mubaraq is afraid that terrorism will scare away the silly suicidal tourists that visit this Muslim nation anyway.

Great Line, but please allow me to expand on it.

Aside from waterpipes and bongs, can anyone, name a product that has been conceived, designed, manufactured, distributed by Muslims, for the good of the people of the planet?

Considering that there are 1.5 billion Muslims, and they have been on the planet for thousands of years, you would think one would be on the tip of the tongue, but for the life of me, I can't think of one. Can you?

ArchAngel-

How short-sighted of you!

They invented the most ingenious all-purpose tool of all time!

It slices, it dices, it chops, it grates! It can break into neighboring countries and steal the places whole, and then it has the miraculous ability to immediately excuse the crimes as inspired acts of divine justice and benevolence!

It allows its possessors to take anything they want from anybody, thereby abolishing the need to ever work or produce any mundane materials themselves ever again!

It's a Cosmic 'swiss army knife' of an implement.
It cuts both ways, twists and turns like a corkscrew, never gets soiled, and remains pefect and new no matter what filth it is involved in!

It weighs nothing, travels everywhere, can't be improved upon, and if, you don't agree, it can kill you!

What is this wondrous invention? This product of all products? This mother of all manufacturings?

That l'il ole Koran.

Once you've got it, you never need think again!

Or do anything but demand the handiwork of others be given to you as your divine right!

Why work at making things when you've got a magic wand?

(And people cowardly enough to hand over their creations, their countries and their consciences when you waves this uncanny concoction in their
cringing countenances?)

All Hail, the Tool of Tools!

Ramaz: I always hated Algebra myself, and even though 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 comes in handy now and then, the actual point of the my post was to highlight the fact that for a race of people who have been on this planet for thousands of years they have nothing to show for it. How is it that the USA, who's total existence on the planet is about 250 years old, is the only superpower on the planet? Why is it that people will risk thier lives to get to the USA? Its called FREEDOM!!!!!! Trying to live in the 14th century just does not cut it today's reality.

BigSleep: clap clap...applause....take a bow...very good post.

Arabs created algebra -RUBBISH! they probably stole the idea from a Jew.Look at any islamic country, except perhaps Indonesia, Malaysia and possibly Jordan, and you will see the inhabitants ruled by despots and dictators. These savage rulers are often pagan religous leaders as well. In all these nations people live in filth and squallor and most are totally ignorant or barely educated - especially the down trodden females.
Note the disasters (note any disaster) re the recent tsnami, how many pagan islamic nations helped or offered help to their fellow pagans? What was that pagan readers of this message - how many? oh six - well done! numbat
PS Those of you who have read a little about pagan islam. Did you know as well as 70 perpetual virgins given in "paradise?" The males are allowed a number of 'pearls' as well. Pearls are hairless boys, so "paradise?" is the home of queers.

Numbat
They definitely got the zero 0 symbol from Indian scholars. Indian scholars were responsible for much of the work on the really big numbers, such as a million, which would not have been possible without zero. I can't remember whether the rest of the numbers were also from India or Persia. But the concept was certaining not original to the arabs.
I think they may have genuinly invented sherbert themselves, and I did enjoy a sherbert lemon sweet when I was a kid. But it does not compare with penecillin or printing.

Dear Ramaz

The computer that you used to post that comment, if it was not for algebra, it would have been impossible. These computers use algorithms which is based in algebra. The house or apartment that you live in, the roof and walls do not collapse, because a structural engineer used algebra to determine the appropriate strength needed to hold up said roof, and that is just the beginning.

Mohammadanism suffers egocentric delusions. Just read Shukri jabbering’s.
Algebra came from India through Arabia to Europe. Mohammadanism certainly had nothing to do with its inception. There where three different types of arithmetic systems used in 11th century Arabia.

In 662 AD Severus Sebokht, a Nestorian bishop who lived in Keneshra on the Euphrates river, wrote:-

I will omit all discussion of the science of the Indians, ... , of their subtle discoveries in astronomy, discoveries that are more ingenious than those of the Greeks and the Babylonians, and of their valuable methods of calculation which surpass description. I wish only to say that this computation is done by means of nine signs. If those who believe, because they speak Greek, that they have arrived at the limits of science, would read the Indian texts, they would be convinced, even if a little late in the day, that there are others who know something of value.

This predates the rise of Arabia, and shows that India's science was known in the lands soon to be come Arabia.

Diophantus of Alexandria
He was born around, the exact dates are unkown, 200 A.D. and lived to around 280 A.D.
Diophantus is sometimes known as the "father of Algebra". Probably Diophantus was a Hellenized Babylonian.

Al-Khwarizmi 780-840 A.D.
He is often cited as "The Father of Algebra".
The historian Al-Tabari however mentions the word Al-majusi when describing him, which gives credit to some claims that he was initially a Zoroastrian.

I find it interesting that Al-Khwarizmi is not considered a Moslem but a Zoroastrian, a fact Moslems would like you to forget.

The Islamic family that prays together... slays together!

Wow! it works! couldn't get on to you guys whilke in Europe, now I'm in Japan and of course here's smooth sailing, laptops are great!
Just hasten to add: Nothing the Islamic s ever did or do made this world a better place. We need to get them OUT, that's all...