Afghan clerics defer jihad call against U.S.

The bogus story may long resonate, but the jihad is off for now. From Reuters, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

FAIZABAD, Afghanistan (Reuters) - A group of Afghan Islamic clerics have deferred a call for holy war against the United States over a magazine report that U.S. interrogators desecrated the Koran after the report was retracted.

The clerics in Badakhshan province said on Sunday the United States should hand anyone guilty of desecrating the holy book to a Muslim country for prosecution in three days or they would declare jihad, or holy war, against the United States.

But Newsweek magazine, which first ran a story in its May 9 issue saying U.S. military interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had flushed a Koran down a toilet, on Monday retracted the report.

"We will consult and discuss our next move with other Ulemas," said the head of Badakhshan's council of clerics, Mullah Sadullah Abu Aman, when asked about the jihad call.

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I don't know about the "retraction" by Newsweek. I listened to an interview yesterday evening on CBC Radio's flagship current affairs program "As It Happens" and the spin around the use of uncorroborated claims was dizzying, even for the Newsweek perps and the CBC. (I suspect there's a transcript on the CBC's website for anyone who has nothing better to do with their time than to dissect it.)

The clerics in Badakhshan province said on Sunday the United States should hand anyone guilty of desecrating the holy book to a Muslim country for prosecution in three days or they would declare jihad, or holy war, against the United States.

OH NO! They're going to declare WAR! What do we do? They're coming! They're coming! There's nowhere we can hide that will be safe! All... several THOUSAND of them are going to... um... borrow money from Saudi Arabia and fly here... and attack us! God is on THEIR side! What will we do! Will I be safe if I convert to Islam?

Seriously, imagine these lowlifes thinking that they can actually declare war on something. What a joke. Oh yeah, we're going to hand over some Marines so you can "try" them for "desecrating" your fairytale book. I guess your star witnesses will be the Gitmo detainees, right? So we'll have to turn them loose so they can go to Afghanistan and attend the "trial."

What a joke. Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, et al. are ALLOWED to exist ONLY BECAUSE America lets you. Don't forget that. You MIGHT get your grubby little dickskinners on a dirty nuke, but WE have the ICBMs, THOUSANDS of them. We could send every Muslim from Egypt to India into exile and make the whole damn thing part of America or even Israel if we wanted to.

The bottom line is that IF we were one-TENTH as ruthless and mean as you guys have been, you'd ALL BE GONE.

Wow.. I'm so RELIEVED that the jihad against America has been "called off". However, it's my understanding that jihad was declared WAYYY back in the 80's and was successfully executed on 9/11/01. Bring it on you neanderthal whores of satan.. We're armed, and we're ready.... it's time. Let's get it on.

Interesting that adherents of a religion that is so against idolatry practices it:

Idolatry-image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object.

They are treating a book as an idol.

It also is interesting that Muslims and this book have been dishonored in China, yet do we hear one peep about this from the Muslim street?

And the Palestinians used pages from the Bible as toilet paper when they took over the church in Bethlehem...but that was ok.

As usual they are just following their founder who used the pretense of religion to implement his political aspirations to subjugate and to rule the world.

KJ raises a good (if angry! =) j/k chief) point here: the whole "peace of islam" thing has long been founded on the idea that islam "must protect itself" from the evil West, which wants to destroy it. Hence, the need for jihad and arms and this supposed "defensive" perspective of Sura 9.

(Also, apparently, in particular that fuzzy on-again off-again "honour" thing must also be defended, which appears from the examples best done in islam by butchering ex-wives or mouthy teenage girls. But I digress.)

And yet, the West possesses staggering levels of military power; enough to frankly conquer every single islamic nation currently in existence and, were they the jackbooted fascists that some like to crow (although I'm personally not in favour of the war in Iraq either), wipe out their populations or free them from islam altogether. Yet, despite provocations and what is clearly developing into a massive clash between civilizations, they do not do so. Why not? Could it have something to do with their core JudeoChristian ideologies?

And, if the situation were reversed, what actions would the muslim nations of the world put their armies to, if indeed this global caliphate, with slavery for all (in the mind, for muslims, in the body, for women, and in the heart, for all the rest), is the undisputed goal of islam?

Some questions really need no answer.

Geoff

KJs point should be recognized by more islamics. At our fiercest, we could completely eliminate any and all islamic population centers. We could walk into a depopulated land at our leisure and take any oil. At their fiercest, they can eliminate a small number of people. 3,000 people is definitely not 'small', but relative to what we could do if we unleashed everything we had it sure is.

Nothing illustrates the difference in our outlook and moral grounding better than the fact that we have not simply wiped them out.

For the sake of argument, assume that an Islamic Ummah had a vast military superiority over the Infidel world. Could anyone imagine them allowing such a thing as an intifada to continue??

If some region had a necessary resource, do you think they would negotiate with locals or would they basically just take the place as Dar Al Islam? It would just be an extension of Mohammed's caravan raids, and the locals would have no recourse.

The thought of Islam with the same military superiority that we have developed is pretty bleak for any but muslims. If Islam had our abilities, we would not exist any more.

By the way, It would take some major transport to carry all the Americans who wiped with, tore, pissed on, burned, menstruated on (fill in your favorite desecration) simply because of these idiotic threats and riots. If I buy a book, any book, and want to feed it to pigs in my country, I won't, appologize to anyone.

Sorry about the rant, but these creeps really piss me off.

After my previous rant was posted, I noticed Geoff already had a similar thought posted, but in a more controlled and clear way. I hope people out there appreciate the restraint that has been extended to these people while increasing the danger to our soldiers, and our entire population.

This clerics demand and threat of war is comical considering the gauntlet was thrown down long ago. He is really not much more than a pain in the ass.

When a boil gets too painful, a thinking person will eventually lance it even if he knows it will hurt for awhile.

I still don't understand how a population that goes ass-up five times a day can be that hard to kill. That's five daily opportunities to get the drop on them and they're not even moving targets, except the occasional up-and-down to frustrate head shots.

Bury the scum in pork fat and have done with it.

Yeah, What kj said!

kj

You get a Gold Star for the Day!!!

GUESS THEY CAN'T EAT THEIR POPPIE CROPS AFTER ALL???


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Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER FIVE THEM STRENGTH,SIGHT,WISDOM, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN


PS
THINK WE SHOULD TURN OVER THE NEWSWEEK CREW???

You have to remember that Koran for muslims is like Christ, the God incarnated, a book plenty of hate and mistakes and many other things.

Posted by: Franze at May 18, 2005 01:52 PM

Maybe so but when mulsums used the bible for tolit paper Christians did not go out and kill people??????


http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44324
FLUSH TO JUDGMENT
Palestinians used Bible
as toilet paper
Muslims' desecration of holy book received little notice
Posted: May 18, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Catholic priests in the church marking the spot where Jesus was believed to have been born said that during the five-week siege, Palestinians tore up some Bibles for toilet paper and removed many valuable sacramental objects, according to a May 15, 2002, report by the Washington Times.

READ THE WHOLE THING??

The Palestinian gunmen, members of Yasser Arafat's Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, seized church stockpiles of food and "ate like greedy monsters" until the food ran out, while more than 150 civilians went hungry, the Washington Times report said.
The indulgence lasted about two weeks into the 39-day siege, when the food and drink ran out, according to an account by four Greek Orthodox priests trapped inside. A church helper told the Times the quantity of food consumed by the gunmen in the first 15 days should have lasted six months.
Angry Orthodox priests showed reporters empty bottles of whiskey, champagne, vodka, cognac and French wine on the floor along with hundreds of cigarette butts.
"They should be ashamed of themselves. They acted like animals, like greedy monsters. Come, I will show you more," said one priest, who declined to give his name.
Computers were taken apart and a television set dismantled for use as a hiding place for weapons.
"You can see what repayment we got for 'hosting' these so-called guests," said Archbishop Ironius, according to the Times report.

SO YOU SEE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AROUND THE WORLD AND SEEING THE DEATH MULSUMS HAVE CAUSED AND THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY SEE???

http://motlc.wiesenthal.com/pages/t031/t03148.html

Bosnian Moslems recruited by the Grand Mufti Hajj Amin al Husseini (Arafat's 'Uncle'1) to serve in the ranks of the German Waffen-SS.
The following pictures take place in Bosnia, two years after the Grand Mufti Hajj Amin al Husseini (blood relative of both the current Temple Mount Mufti and Yasser Arafat) launched an unsuccessful pro-Nazi coup in Iraq. In that coup, an Iranian - Khayrallah Tulfah - was jailed for four years for his pro-Nazi activities.

AND WE REMEMBER HISTORY???

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/851163/posts
The Nazification of the Palestinian Arabs: Arafat's, Saddam's historical ties to Hitler
Tuesday, February 25, 2003 |


YES WE REMEMBER AND DO RESEARCH AND DON'T LIKE WHAT WE SEE ALL THE KILLING DONE BY MULSUMS AROUND THE WORLD??

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/006.shtml
The Holocaust in Bosnia-Hercegovina, 1941-1945

by Carl K. Savich

READ THE WHOLE THING!!

From the beginning of the German invasion of Yugoslavia, the Bosnian Muslims had sought to convince the Germans that Bosnia-Hercegovina should be a Nazi Protectorate, that is, have an autonomous political existence. In 1941, over 100,000 Bosnian Muslim conscripts were available to fight in the military formations of the Third Reich. Bosnian Muslim soldiers were in the Ustasha death squads, the Domobranci (Home Guards), and the Croatian Army. Bosnian Muslim soldiers were also in the Nazi-Ustasha German-Croatian "Legion" units, such as the 369th, 373rd, andÝ392nd Infantry Divisions. In The Holocaust: The Fate of European Jewry, 1932-1945, Leni Yahil remarked that the Bosnian Muslims even sent their soldiers to fight on the Russian front as part of the Nazi German forces:Ý "One of their units later joined the German forces fighting in Russia." The 369th Reinforced Croat Infantry Regiment, made up of Croats and Bosnian Muslims, fought at Stalingrad where it was destroyed. The NDH also sent the Italian-Croat Legion, attached to the Italian 3rd Mobile Division, to the Russian front where it was destroyed during the Don retreat.

THANK GOD FOR THE RUSSIANS!!!

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/AminAlHusseini.htm#_ednref3
III Osama Bin Laden makes direct reference to end of Ottoman Empire and thus proclaims
his allegiance to its notion of Islamic dominion. We see here the direct ideological connection
between Bin Laden’s Jihad and Amin Al-Husseini.

AND WE HEAR NOTHING FROM THE MULSUM WORLD BUT ROITS AND KILL ALL NON-MULSUMS??

NO FRANZE YOUR PEOPLE ARE IN TROBLE IF THEY DON'T STAND UP TO THE MONSTERS AND STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM IF YOUR TEACHERS AND PREACHERS ARE PREACHING HATE FOR THE WORLD AND SUPPORT FOR THE MONSTERS WELL WE ARE AFTER THE MONSTERS AND LIKE OUR PRESIDENT SAID EITHER YOU ARE WITH US OR YOUR AGAINST US!!!


NO FRANZE IF I WERE YOU I'D GET MY LEADERS TO STOP FUNDING TERRORIST AND PUT THE TERRORIST SUPPORTERS IN JAIL BECAUSE OLD FREINDS HAVE SHAKEN HANDS AGAIN!!!

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/022.shtml
Islam Under the Swastika
The Grand Mufti and the Nazi Protectorate of Bosnia-Hercegovina, 1941-1945
by Carl Savich

READ THE WHOLE THING AND REMEMBER WHAT WE DID WHEN WE FINIALLY WENT TO WAR!!!

LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLD PICTURES AND LOOK TODAY HOW IT WAS FLATENED BUT NOW IS BEAUTIFUL AND ALL REBUILT!!

LIKE A GARDEN THAT STARTS FROM A SEED IT WILL GROW IF WATERED AND YOUR FRIENDS HAVE BEEN WATERING THE WEEDS AND THE WEEDS IN ANY GARDEN MUST BE PULLED!!!


http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/AminAlHusseini.htm#_ednref33
Nazi View of Islamic Religion

1946
Yasser Arafat’s Teacher and Uncle:
Amin Al-Husseini
Egyptian-born Yasser Arafat [xlii] meets Amin Al-Husseini at age 17 and starts to work for him. Amin Al-Husseini allegedly great-uncle of Arafat, whose real name is Mohammed Abder Rauf Arafat Al-Kudwa Al-Husseini. Arafat reportedly changed his name intentionally to to disguise his connection to Amin al-Husseinidisguise his connection to Amin al-Husseini.

Arafat
Holy Struggler
Amin Al-Husseini places Yasser Arafat in charge of arms procurement and shipment for the Mufti’s Irregular Forces: “The Holy Strugglers”

1948-1949
Husseini:
“I declare a Holy War!”

Amin Al Husseini with Abdel Nasser: President of Egypt
With UN recognition, Israel declares statehood. Arab League immediately declares Jihad (Holy War) against Israel. Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Jordan immediately declare war on the new Jewish state and invade Israel.
Amin Al-Husseini [xliii] : “I declare a Holy War, My Muslim Brothers! Murder the Jews! Murder them all!”

Arafat Speaks On Amin Al-Husseini
“I was one of his troops.”
Yasser Arafat was interviewed by Al Sharq Al Awsat (London Arabic Daily) and reprinted in Palestinian daily Al Quds on August 2, 2002:
“We are not Afghanistan… We are the mighty people. Were they able to replace our hero Hajj Amin Al-Husseini?… There were a number of attempts to get rid of Hajj Amin, when they considered him an ally of the Nazis. But even so, he lived in Cairo, and participated in the 1948 War and I was one of his troops.”
(Translation found on Palestinian Media Watch web site.)
Arab League
Four Wars


NO FRANZE YOU ARE TRYING TO HEDGE YOUR BETS BUT WE DON'T PLAY THAT GAME IT IS TIME TO SIDE WE REMEMBER SAUDIA BACKED AWAY FROM HITLER BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE GONE TO THE DARK SIDE???

Amin Al-Husseini approves the Pejani Plan, calling for the extermination of the Serbian population. Nazi Germany refuses to implement the Pejani plan.
Bosnian ethnic cleansing under Amin al Husseini:
. Orthodox Christian Serbs: 200,000 killed
. Jewish Bosnians: 22,000 killed
. Gypsies: over 40,000 killed
Husseini’s legacy of hatred is a major factor in today’s Bosnia/Herzegovina conflict against the Serbs and their leader Milosevic.


FOOL ME ONCE SHAME ON YOU BUT FOOL ME TWICE SHAME ON ME


AND WE WONT GO TO THE SHAME ON ME!!!
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Archaeology/keys.html

Muslims to Lose Sole Control
of Holy Sepulcher Keys
(June 1999)
After 800 years, two Muslim families will soon lose the distinction of being the sole possessors of the key to the 900-year old Church of the Holy Sepulcher in the Old City of Jerusalem. In the 12th century, Christians from different denominations fought over who should keep the key to the church where their tradition says Jesus was buried and resurrected. To end the fighting, the Arab conqueror Saladin entrusted the key to the Muslim Nuseibeh and Joudeh families.


A NEW DOOR IS OPENED DON'T BACK THE WRONG HORSE OR YOU WILL BE SHUT OUT!!!!


I'D TELL MY LEADERS IF I WERE YOU TIME TO PULL THE WEEDS????

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM WISDOM,SIGHT,STRENGTH, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Squirrel, why don't you set up your own blog, instead of chewing up bandwidth on Roberts, geez too me five minutes to scroll past your posts and I didn't even read them.

I see nothing but positives in this Jihad because someone, supposedly flushed the Qur'an (try that yourself, it defies the laws of physics, don't have a Qur'an then try any paperback or a set of gymn shoes. It's all b.s. and I wonder why the idjits of Newsday didn't figure that out.

That aside, I see only a good thing, the more violent they get, the louder the noise, the sooner the rest of the somnulent denizens of the west will wake up and figure out that Islam is not a religion of peace and is incompatible with secular western democracy and the Universal Declaration of Human rights, what peeves me is Condi and Bush caving in.

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