FBI records: Detainees allege Quran abuse

What's the difference between a Koran and a holy Qur'an?

Answer:
Nothing. They both refer to Muhammad's Mein Kampf. Words that Muhammad got from an allah he dreamt up. A book that promotes conquest and subjugation.

What? Are these guys really "soldiers" of jihad or a bunch of whiny whimps.
Note to jihadoislamists: don't send a bunch of whimps to fight wars! Send some men - if you got any?! Leave them at home with their Mummies where they can hide.
Stay home you non-combatants. You're lucky you made it to GITMO alive. The days of not taking prisoners are not that long ago - and not at all forgotten.

ACLU - let's see - about as much credibility as "newspeak" and founded by an avowed communist roger baldwin
(probably related to famous actors) (1917) who stated: "I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property." And he concluded, "COMMUNISM IS THE GOAL."
So the ultimate PC organ which is on a non-stop jihad of its own - to take down, remove, ban any/all signs of Judeo-Christian beliefs?!!! and they want to pull this B.S. on the USA - GIVING AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY by way of protection of relgious items. NOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAY commie PC fruits!!!!!

I dont know why anyone of reasonable persuasion, would believe one thing these Gitmo "detainee's" say, about most anything. Those particular scum bags are the lowest form of sewage concentrate on the planet. They are not there for "no" reason, and Gitmo is not a boy scout camp. Hannibal Lechter clones, with a Quran, everyone of them. They should get the same level of credibility as a used car salesman in heat.
Those who have no experience dealing with dangerous incarcerates seem to have a "mom and apple pie", philosophy. This is inappropriate, and leads to the inmates running the asylum.
I am not advocating any abuse by guards, but I am stating that Gitmo(and lock-ups like it) need to be run by an iron fist or the guards are in excessive danger and no reliable info would be forthcomming. You cant win out over a fanatic, especially an Islamic fanatic, by offering cake and ice cream...they will eat the cake first and then behead you...nice guys...

Those not in uniform are not soldiers, they are thugs. To put them in uniform would identify them with a particular regime against whom we would then declare official war, although we "understand" that these people represent the world body of Muslims, the Ummah.

Until they officially declare themselves and put on a uniform, they have no right to combatant status. The ACLU, Amnesty International and all others should encourage them to do so, but they won't because of a blatant anti-American bias.

epg:

The jihadists would likely argue that they are wearing the uniforms of the mujahadeen, which may not conform to the Geneva Convention (underwhich they doubtless seek redress and protectino), but they most certainly are uniformly thuggish

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003740.php
October 31, 2004
Al Jazeera edited out Osama's complaints about Al-Qaeda's setbacks
"Osama bin Laden doesn't seem nearly so cocky in the unedited version of a videotape aired on al-Jazeera, complaining that the manhunt against him has hampered al Qaeda." From the New York Post, with thanks to Uncle Jeff:
October 31, 2004 -- Osama bin Laden doesn't seem nearly so cocky in the unedited version of a videotape aired on al-Jazeera, complaining that the manhunt against him has hampered al Qaeda.
May 26, 2005
FBI shuts down star wars movie sight??? Oh My!!
Woman stabs 2 other women in a mall in Maryland?? Haven’t we seen this before in Israel??
Iran says it will make a deal with the EU and the USA?? NOW with all the broken treaty’s can we trust them??
THE FAT BOY [YELLOW COWARD WHO IS CURSED] IS NOW OUT OF IRAQ DUH!!! Someone is trying to take his place??
Iraq stock market Open !!!
MORE ISLAMIC TERRORIST DEAD!!
Lights back on in Russia??
3 crosses burned in N.C. over night? Wasn’t there something about the palis in N.C???
3 children found dead in Jail Branch River in Vermont??

Burlington county someone stole the Flag holders from Military Graves??
Another judge to let an Islamic terrorist go who worked with the 9/11 highjacker’s who says judges don’t matter??
US embassy to close in Indonesia?? WOW!! And the Minster was just meeting with President Bush yesterday?? Guess someone got the report that the aid was not making it to the people because of Islamic terrorist??
MORE ISLAMIC TERRORIST DEAD TODAY!!!
Syria says it has arrested 1200 Islamic terrorist and sent them back to their countries because they were going to kill Iraqis??

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist AND all WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN

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Ladys if shopping in the mall and someone is stabbing people use your tools your purse is a good weapon start hitting the attacker don't run away gang up on the monster!!!! just like you would protect your child DO NOT RUN AWAY ONE IS NOTHING AGAINST THE MANY!!!!

We Americans have a right to desecrate the quran. We call it, "Freedom of Speech". We do freedom of speech every day. Get used to it; we do not intend to stop.

By the way, on any day that we fail to desecrate the quran, rest assured that it is unintentional - just an oversite. We desecrate the quran, every day, in our hearts.

No muslims. No mosques.

What? Complaining about Kafir hands touching the Qur'an? The Muslim Student Association used to give out the Yusuf Ali translation back at the place where I went to grad school.

Sent to the daily dogsquirt

To elevate the Quran to the point where it deserves respect is an act that lends credibility to those in the midst of an ideological tantrum . It in fact lends aid and comfort to the enemy without regard to your unwillingness or inability to identify the enemy as Islam.
Act of terrorism like 911 part of a delusion fantasy world struggling to revive and complete the goal’s Islamic imperialism.
This included the subjugation and eventual eradication of none Muslim in the whole world in accordance with Islamic dogma whose ultimate source is the Quran.
If that does not qualify islam as the enemy than the entire concept of enemy has no meaning.
Please consider this as an opportunity to retract your support for enemies of freedom tolerance liberty and equality .

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000103.htm#comments

The comment by "Joe Mama" is a keeper. (Conyer's blog) Says it all!

I know this is an urelated post but its so incredible :
"A Toddler Accused of Adultery in Bangladesh"

Vikrant...read that article...conclusion...those people are "loony tunes", "nuts". If the infants and todlers were found guilty, whats next beheadings? The depth of this psychosis is amazing...

THE MAIN STORY HERE IS ONCE AGAIN THE ACLU SIDES WITH THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST OVER THE PEOPLE WHO ALLOW THEIR FREEDOM WHO PAYS THESE PEOPLE????????????????

http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Jihad against Jews and Crusaders
issued by The World Islamic Front, Feb 23, 1998

Praise be to God, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said "I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but God is worshipped, God who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders. "
The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since God made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, you and we are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.
No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:
" First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples. If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.
" Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million. Despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation. So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.
" Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper "statelets" and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.
All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And Ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the Ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."
On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following Fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty God: "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? -- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"
We, with God's help, call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim Ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's US troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.
Almighty God said: "O ye who believe, give your response to God and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that God cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."
Almighty God also says: "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of God, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For God hath power over all things."
Almighty God also says: "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."
Signatories:
Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin,
Ayman al-Zawahiri, Amir of the Jihad Group in Egypt,
Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Egyptian Islamic Group,
Shaykh Mir Hamzah, Secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan
Fazlur Rahman, amir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh

NOTICE THIS WAS DECLARED IN 1998!!!

http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Declaration of War on America
August 23, 1996 Hindukush Mountains, Khurasan, Afghanistan
By Usama Bin Laden

NOTICE DECLARED WAR IN 1996!!

It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the Zionist Crusaders alliance and their collaborators, to the extent that the Muslim's blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq. The horrifying pictures of the massacre of Qana, in Lebanon are still fresh in our memory. Massacres in Tajikistan, Burma, Kashmir, Assam, the Philippines, Fatani, Ogadin, Somalia, Erithria, Chechnya and Bosnia Herzegovina took place - massacres that send shivers in the body and shake the conscience.
All of this and the world watched and heard, and not only didn't respond to these atrocities, but a clear conspiracy developed between the USA and its' allies under the cover of the iniquitous United Nations and the dispossessed people were even prevented from obtaining arms to defend themselves.
The people of Islam awakened and realized that they are the main targets for the aggression of the Zionist Crusaders alliance. All false claims and propaganda about "Human Rights" were hammered down and exposed by the massacres that took place against the Muslims in every part of the world. The latest and the greatest of these aggressions, incurred by the Muslims since the death of the Prophet (Allah's Blessing And Salutations On Him) is the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places - the foundation of the house of Islam, the place of the Revelation, the source of the message and the place of the noble Ka'ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims is by the armies of the American Crusaders and their allies. We bemoan this and can only say "No power and power acquiring except through Allah".
Under the present circumstances, and under the banner of the blessed awakening which is sweeping the world in general and the Islamic world in particular, I meet with you today. And after a long absence, imposed on the scholars (Ulama) and callers (Da'ees) of Islam by the iniquitous Crusaders movement under the leadership of the USA; who fears that they, the scholars and callers of Islam, will instigate the Ummah of Islam against its' enemies as their ancestor scholars (May Allah be pleased with them like Ibn Taymiyyah and Al'iz Ibn Abdes Salaam) did. Therefore the Zionist Crusader alliance resorted to killing and arresting the truthful Ulama and the working Da'ees. We are not praising or sanctifying them; Allah sanctifies whom He pleases.
They killed the Mujahid Sheikh Abdullah Azzaam, they arrested the Mujahid Sheikh Ahmad Yaseen and the Mujahid Sheikh Omar Abdur Rahman (in America).
By orders from the USA they also arrested a large number of scholars, Da'ees and young people in the land of the two Holy Places, among them the prominent Sheikh Salman AlOud'a and Sheikh Safar AlHawali and their brothers. We bemoan this and can only say: "No power and power acquiring except through Allah".
We (my group, and myself) have suffered some of this injustice ourselves; we have been prevented from addressing the Muslims. We have been pursued in Pakistan, Sudan and Afghanistan, hence this long absence on my part. But by the Grace of Allah, a safe base is now available in the high Hindukush mountains in Khurasan; where by the Grace of Allah the largest infidel military force of the world was destroyed. And the myth of the super power was withered in front of the Mujahideen cries of Allahu Akbar (God Is Greater).
Today we work from the same mountains to lift the iniquity that had been imposed on the Ummah by the Zionist Crusader alliance, particularly after they have occupied the blessed land around Jerusalem, route of the journey of the Prophet (Allah's Blessing And Salutations On Him) and the land of the two Holy Places. We ask Allah to bestow us with victory, He is our Patron and He is the Most Capable. From here, today we begin the work, talking and discussing the ways of correcting what had happened to the Islamic world in general, and the Land of the two Holy Places in particular. We wish to study the means that we could follow to return the situation to its normal path and return to the people their own rights, particularly after the large damages and the great aggression on the life and the religion of the people.
An injustice that had affected every section and group of the people, the civilians, military and security men, government officials and merchants, the young and the old people as well as schools and university students. Hundred of thousands of the unemployed graduates, who became the widest section of the society, were also affected. Injustice has affected the people of the industry and agriculture. It affected the people of the rural and urban areas. And almost every body complains about something. The situation at the land of the two Holy places became like a huge volcano at the verge of eruption that would destroy the Kufr and the corruption and its' sources. The explosion at Riyadh and AlKhobar is a warning of this volcanic eruption emerging as a result of the sever oppression, suffering, excessive iniquity, humiliation and poverty.
People are fully concerned about their every day living. Everybody talks about the deterioration of the economy, inflation, ever increasing debts and jails full of prisoners. Government employees with limited income talk about debts of ten thousands and hundred thousands of Saudi Riyals. They complain that the value of the Riyal is greatly and continuously deteriorating among most of the main currencies. Great merchants and contractors speak about hundreds and thousands of million Riyals owed to them by the government. The government owes more than three hundred forty billions of Riyal to the people in addition to the daily accumulating interest, let alone the foreign debt. People wonder whether we are the largest oil exporting country! They even believe that this situation is a curse put on them by Allah for not objecting to the oppressive and illegitimate behavior and measures of the ruling regime:
Ignoring the divine Shari'ah law,

AND THE JET PLANES FLYING IN THE NIGHT CHANGED HIS WORLD!!!

NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY AS AN EXCUSE THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO INSLAVE THE WORLD WITH BURKAS!!

YES PEOPLE THAT IS NO FREEDOM!!

CAN'T DEAL WITH A SNAKE HAVE TO KILL THE SNAKE!!!

NOW WHO IS IT WHO SUPPORTS THESE MONSTERS BUT THE ACLU????

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO VICTORY[FREEDOM] TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

GUESS MAS IS USED TO THE SOUND OF THAT MULSUM MONEY???

THINK PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THIS FRIST HAD !! WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING TO HURT AMERICANS!!

I HAVE LAST NIGHT IT WAS CROSSES BURNED NOT MOSQUES AND WHAT ABOUT THE GRAVES AROUND THE COUNTRY DESACREATED NOT MULSUM BUT BY MULSUMS THEY WERE CHRISTIAN AND JEWISH GRAVES NOT MULSUMS!!!!

NO LOOK AT WHAT THE DEMOCRATS OFFER??

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000103.htm#comments
Text of My Resolution Regarding Relgious Intolerance

I received a large number of comments, and quite a spirited debate, concerning my resolution opposing religious intolerance, including desecration of the Quran. I appreciate all of the comments, both those supporting and opposing my actions. I continue to believe that given recent events, it is worthwhile for the Congress to actually express its support for the freedom of religion. The resolution was drafted to oppose all religious intolerance. To the extent it mentions the Quran and Islam specifically, that is obviously to respond to those who believe our nation would tolerate disrespect of that religion or its holy book. Clearly we should not, at least in my opinion.

Anyway, below in the extended entry is the full text of H. Res. 288. I hope you agree that read in its totality, it is a fair and appropriate resolution.

Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives condemning bigotry and religious intolerance, and recognizing that holy books of every religion should be treated with dignity and respect.

Whereas believers of all religions, including the Abrahamic faiths of Christianity, Judaism and Islam, should be treated with respect and dignity;

Whereas the word Islam comes from the Arabic root word meaning “peace” and “submission”;

Whereas there are an estimated 7,000,000 Muslims in America, from a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds, forming an integral part of the social fabric of America;

Whereas the Quran is the holy book for Muslims who recite passages from it in prayer and learn valuable lessons about peace, humanity and spirituality;
Whereas it should never be official policy of the United States Government to disparage the Quran, Islam, or any religion in any way, shape, or form;

Whereas mistreatment of prisoners and disrespect toward the holy book of any religion is unacceptable and against civilized humanity;

Whereas the infringement of an individual’s right to freedom of religion violates the Constitution and laws of the United States: Now, therefore, be it

1 Resolved, That the House of Representatives–

(1) condemns bigotry, acts of violence, and intolerance against any religious group, including our friends, neighbors, and citizens of the Islamic faith;

(2) declares that the civil rights and civil liberties of all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith, should be protected;

(3) recognizes that the Quran, the holy book of Islam, as any other holy book of any religion, should be treated with dignity and respect; and

(4) calls upon local, State, and Federal authorities to work to prevent bias-motivated crimes and acts against all individuals, including those of the Islamic faith.

BY THE WAY THERE AINT 7MILLION MORE LIKE 2 MILLION IF THAT 7MILLION IS RIGHT 5 MILLION ARE ILLEGAL AND NEED TO BE SENT BACK TO THEIR COUNTRIES LIKE SYIRA DID!!!

NO YOU CAN'T TRUST DEMOCRATS OR THE ACLU!!!!

IF THEY CALL IT ART TO DEFACATE ON CHRISTAIN SIMBLES SO SHOULD IT BE OKAY TO DO SO WITH ISLAM NOT ONE OVER THE OTHER IN A FREE COUNTRY AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT GO LIVE IN A MULSUM COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!

ENOUGH OF THIS VICTIM WHO ARE THE BULLIES!!!

PC KILLS!!!!

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Catherine...Maybe we could make designer burkas, for those muslimahs who want high fashion without being beaten or killed...
There may be a buck in that somwehere...

OT
in case you missed it

A suspected accomplice in the murder of Theo Van Gogh has been arrested in France

http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/

If the worst slander the ACLU can come up with is that somebody kicked a Koran, those terrorists are damned lucky they are at Gitmo being pampered instead of in jail back in the Middle East.

These allegations are being made by sworn enemies of the US and the MSM are eager to treat them as (atheist) Gospel.
Koran desecration
Jenin Massacre
100,000 killed in Iraq by the US.
three of the disgusting lies which have entered the annals of leftist thinking.
Even after the UN revelations of 24,000 a few weeks ago, Galloway used the hundred thousand "holy" figure at the senate committee hearing last week!

putting someone on a guilt trip for touching the quran is extremely legalistic. such conditioning behavior is surely only found in the most powerful cults, cults which control their members' every thought such as is found within islam.
let us not allow islam to control us or "train" us by putting us on these guilt trips where we have to jump through so many hoops to avoid offending islam. we should stand up for our absolute right to destroy the quran if we are the rightful owner. this is the way islam gains control and gets it's foot in the door, by using guilt trips. islam says, oh, you offended my sensibilities. that is how islam changes our behavior, by accusing us (satan is called the accuser) through fear according to it's control-freak satanic doctrine while we are in fact behaving perfectly reasonably already. islam then tells us, oh, you are being offensive to allah for this or that. baloney. hopefully we will not fall for this rediculous superstition of not touching the quran and hopefully the prison guards will not be made to feel that they have to walk on eggshells in order to keep islam happy. as a free american, i can touch any book i want or even destroy it if i have legally paid for it. by not touching the quran i would be assenting to my infidelism. do you see how islam seeks to condition us so it can pull us into the cult of islam? we should never agree, out of guilt, not to touch their book. to agree to do so is to give up a freedom to touch it. see how islam steals our freedoms through superstition?
the apostle paul says, do not let anyone (islam) put you under a yoke of bondage (cult-like legalism). don't think i am picking on muslims only. the early jewish law forbade spitting on the ground on the sabbath because it was considered the making of mud, interpreted as doing work on the sabbath. one of more than 600 "laws" at the time, that is the kind of legalistic bondage that i am referring to, and always done in the name of a stringent god. this is cultic behavior.
force islam to be reasonable by maintaining your rights inherent with freedom.

Havoc: You are spot on!

KAOSKTRL:

I for one can not understand why the scum in Gitmo are still alive. This is the sworn enemy who want to bring down the US and bring us the Mohammedan 'paradise', Taliban style. Not only have they no credibility, but to extend ANY rights to them is foolish beyond comprehension. Why is there not a total news blackout on Gitmo? Why are they not executed?

The Mohammedans falling all over themselves laughing at us about pussyfooting around. One smokescreen after another, the looney left throwing tantrums over the 'fanaticalChristians'- this is obscene!

Amnesia is a disgrace to itself and has long lost its credibility. This Irene Khan is a Moonbat just like Arundati Roy: These spacecadets know how to leave a stink wherever they go. They are parasites and should be ignored. If they are not on the payroll of the Arabs then they are pushing a socialist agenda, and that is not in our interest.

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/World/guantanamo_detainees/opinion___editorials/SIG=12mvcgc6h/*http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/25/AR2005052501838.html

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/World/guantanamo_detainees/audio/SIG=11u7h77de/*http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4658943

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/fc/World/guantanamo_detainees/audio/SIG=11u7h77de/*http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4658943

All these wonderful organisations are a disgrace to demselves! The whole thing is a non-issue that should be ignored!

Catherine...Maybe we could make designer burkas, for those muslimahs who want high fashion without being beaten or killed...
There may be a buck in that somwehere...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 26, 2005 01:28 PM

hEARD THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE SOME WHERE IN AISA??

GO TO MULSUM FAHSION??

ROTFL!!!

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO IGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS
Players Club loses right to smoke so says a Judge?? That is a privte club??

OT- sort of,
President Bush pledges 50 million dollars to the PLO ( or whatever they are calling themselves now ) When will we learn?

Source:http://www.debka.com/

Every time another terrorist is released from Gitmo another tall tale is told of koran abuse and torture.

Who prints the lies of these terrorists? Who defends these terrorists.

Look no further than the ACLU, the NYT, the liberal media, and numerous other anti-American liberal “human rights” groups.

The West is under attack from several forces both internal and external.

Here is a look at burka fashions, and taliban singles,

http://www.putrid.com/taliban.htm

OT- sort of,
President Bush pledges 50 million dollars to the PLO ( or whatever they are calling themselves now ) When will we learn?

Posted by: Carolyn2 at May 26, 2005 02:35 PM

Yea he did and the sh-ts are already crying it aint enough!!!

President Bush also said the Arabs had to poney up the money for the palis!!!

seams the ACLU case just fell through the detainey who said that the quran was flushed has retracted his claim??

guess he likes his friutloops and don't want to go home??

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with he give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen

PS
George looks like we got islamic terrorist of every color even Russian finger prints and all where did he live but the Neatherlands?? Connected to Spain??

PSS
USMC dismisses ALL charges against Lt P. little spank about the sign but Charges ALL Dropped!!

Detainees at the U.S. naval base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, alleged in 2002 that guards mistreated the Quran, according to some of the hundreds of FBI documents released by the American Civil Liberties Union.

What exactly is it - the ACLU stands for?

033.061 Cursed: wherever they ['unbelievers'] are found they shall be seized and murdered, a horrible murdering.

And that is ok with the ACLU?

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?

And that is ok with the ACLU?

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight, smite at their necks. [Behead them!]

And that is ok with the ACLU?

005.033 THE PUNISHMENT of those who '''wage war''' against Allah and His Messenger IS: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet.

And that is ok with the ACLU?

What exactly is it - the ACLU stands for?

Where are the mouths of Amnasty International? - you know - the 'holier than thou' ah..hem humanitarians?

From my Solving-All-the-World's-Problems-in-One-Sentence Department:

Quit issuing Korans to detainees.

Thank you, thank you. Now back into my deep contemplative trance which allows me to see the True Way.

Thanks for the burka link C2,

Not only are the burkas fashionable they offer some protection from adulterating raspist’s like left wing liberal Democrat and impeached ex-President Bill Clinton. It’s all so very sad.

Catherine...everytime I come up with a great idea , someone has already done it, often years ago.
I invented the hulahoop after it was already invented...pet rock too...I actually did invent hippies... another story for another time. Never made a dime off them either...
Lets just keep inventing and maybe something will stick...I was hoping the Islamorooter would sell, but sales in Islamoworld are slow...Cant even sell one to Eskimo's. They never heard of Islam and are more interested in igloo heaters.
Back to the drawing board...

duh_swami
Not so fast with the Eskimos,

http://www.islamicfinder.org/update.php?ID=40213&mode=1

Posted by: Beagle at May 26, 2005 03:12 PM

Our hearts are with you may we give you Strength!!

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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage Amen

Question:
Can you really "abuse" a non-living object?

Thank you, Catherine.

I've had my first daily crying jag after looking at pictures of Alexander. Now I'm in the pretending-to-be-normal/anger phase. The second crying jag comes later.

It's so unreal that I find myself replaying the day of the seizure over in my head every day. Each replay comes to the same sad end and second guessing (even though I called 911 ASAP). I think I'm developing a bit of PTSD.

Never take anything for granted, even the next moment. Of course, nobody would do any planning, live without constant fear, or leave the house, if you follow that advice. Welcome to my world, excluding trips to the garden center.

Maybe this isn't a good time for me to give advice, except on how to stop any problems with the Koran, which detainees should not receive.

Carolyn2...
Oh no, not that!!...Eskimo's too??? When they behead a polar bear or seal, do they yell Allahu Akbar? Are you sure these muslims in Ancorage are Eskimo's, or are they Syrian terrorists who lost their way to Iraq and ended up in Alaska.
All those college educated terrorists never took a map reading class...Which way is up? Why north of course...Who's on first?(Abbott and Costello routine). Eskimo jihadists...dog sled terrorism.
What a concept...does Robert Spenser know about this?... He does now...have a good day or eve wherever you are...

Sometimes it feels like I’m beating my head against a brick wall. I don’t know how those who are ever persistent do it.

This is a quest that I’ve just begun and sometimes it feels like a losing battle. It’s definitely a battle worth fighting but there are just times when you want to scream at the top of your lungs, “Won’t you people just please open your eyes!”

It has nothing to do with hate or intolerance, it’s about the truth. Yes, sometimes the truth hurts and it can be very ugly.

I’ll admit that for a long time I believed the lies that Islam is a “religion of peace” and that the ones who flew the planes into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania on that beautiful September morning had just hijacked the religion. But as time went on, I saw things on the news – car bombs, suicide bombers and other various things – and I began to wonder if it really was a “religion of peace” or if there was more to it, so I began to do some research.

A coworker turned me onto jihadwatch and I began reading the articles and comments posted there. After reading verses from the Qur’an and the articles about the atrocities that these people inflict upon others on a daily basis in the name of their religion, I began to believe that there is no peace in Islam.

My coworker and I discussed these things and we often wondered what we could do to get the truth out there. At first we would just send links of the articles to others who in turn shared them. But somehow this didn’t seem like enough.

Then one day we saw a post where someone had made up business cards with only the website listed on it and we thought it was a great idea. So we made up our own business cards with verses from the Qur’an and the address to jihadwatch on it. So now wherever we go – gas stations, convenience stores, grocery stores, bookstores - we “drop” these off.

I’m hoping that we can get through to people before it’s too late. But with the way things are going, I’m afraid it already is. We have people like Conyers trying to get a resolution passed that is unconstitutional because he wants to stop the intolerance towards Muslims and Islam, but he and his supporters just don’t get is that Muslims and Islam are intolerant towards everybody that isn’t like them.

I get so sick and tired of hearing how “they” are “offended” because of something somebody said/did or allegedly did. I get offended by something almost everyday, but you don’t see me or any other sane person rioting in the streets, yelling discrimination or hate crime. And you certainly don’t see hear us screaming for a lawsuit over every little thing. Our court system is already bogged down with petty BS we don’t need to add to it.

Everybody has a right to express their opinion. We don’t have to agree with it, but they’re still entitled to it.

We also don’t need to be called names nor have insults thrown at us because we’re trying to show people the truth. The fact that so many people would rather believe the lies over the truth because the lies are prettier, or whatever, is very bothersome. Like I said before sometimes the truth is ugly.

Since the story is about ACLU it should always be remembered that the ACLU is a radical left wing legal arm of the liberals that rushes to the defense of liberals in their decades old cultural revolution and goes on the offensive against everything traditional. The ACLU is an ugly cancer.

SOME military[army] Genral just came out and said OH YEA WE TOUCHED IT ???

Now they have just become dimmis!!!

HELLO THE ARAB WORLD BURNS OUR FLAG ALMOST EVERY???

THIS IS ALL BS THEY ARE PLAYING THE VICTIM???

TURNS OUT IT WAS THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST IN GETMO WHO FLUSHED THE QURAN AND THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST WHO 15 TIMES DECREATED THE QURAN AND THIS IS NOTHING NEW THEY ARAB WORLD HAS SEEN THESE MONSTRS DO THE SAME THING EVEN IN EGYPT!!!!

STOP BEING NICE TO OUR ENEMIES IT WILL ONLY EMBOLDEN THEM!!!

WELL M.JACKSON'S BROTHER IS A MULSUMS MAYBE THAT IS WHY HE SLEEPS WITH LITTLE BOYS!!!

BATTER BATTER SWING!!!

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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER AMEN

PS
WHAT IS THE STANDARD OPRATION FOR HANDELING OF THE BOOKS OF OTHER FAITH'S YOU HAVE TO WEAR A PAIR OF GLOVES TO TOUCH THE BIBLE???

MAYBE THAT IS TO PROTECT OUR GUYS FROM THE HATE IN AFTER ALL THIS IS THE BOOK THEY USED TO FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS AND KILLED 3000 PEOPLE!!!

AFTER ALL THIS IS THE BOOK THEY USE TO CUT PEOPLES HEADS OFF!!!

TO STEAL FROM OTHERS YEA BETTER PROTECT OUR GUYS!!!!

YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN WALLY FARIAS FACE WHEN SOME ONE SAID AFTER THIS IS THE BOOK THEY USED TO FLY PLANES INTO OUR BULIDINGS AND KILL 3000 AMERICANS!!

WILL HAVE TO CATCH MONICAS SHOW LATER ON MSMBC!!!

A Liberal that has had enough:

LEAVING THE LEFT
Out of the corner of my eye I watched what was coming for more than three decades, yet refused to truly see
* * *

Nightfall: January 30, 2005. Eight million Iraqi voters have finished risking their lives to endorse freedom and defy fascism. Three things happen in rapid succession. The right cheers. The left demurs. I walk away from a long-term intimate relationship. I’m separating not from a person but a cause: the political philosophy that for more than three decades has shaped my character and consciousness, my sense of self and community, even my sense of cosmos.

I’m leaving the left – more precisely, the American cultural left and what it has become during our time together.

I choose today because I can no longer abide the simpering voices of self-styled progressives — people who once championed solidarity with oppressed populations everywhere — reciting all the ways Iraq’s democratic experiment might yet implode.

My estrangement hasn’t happened overnight. Out of the corner of my eye I watched what was coming for more than three decades; yet refused to truly see. Now it’s all too obvious. Leading voices in America’s “peace” movement are actually cheering against self-determination for a long-suffering Third World people because it hates George W. Bush more than it loves freedom.

Like many others who came of age politically in the 1960s, I became adept at not taking the measure of the left’s mounting incoherence. To face it directly posed the danger that I would have to describe it accurately, first to myself and then to others. That could only give aid and comfort to Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and all the other Usual Suspects the left so regularly employs to keep from seeing its own reflection in the mirror.

Now, I find myself in a swirling metamorphosis. Think Kafka, without the bug. Think Kuhnian paradigm shift, without the buzz. Every anomaly that didn’t fit my perceptual set is suddenly back, all the more glaring for so long ignored. The insistent inner voice I learned to suppress now has my rapt attention. “Something strange – something approaching pathological – something entirely of its own making – has the left in its grip,” the voice whispers. “How did this happen?”
The Iraqi election is my tipping point. The time has come to walk in a different direction — just as I did many years earlier.

I grew up in a northwest Ohio town where conservative was a polite term for reactionary. When Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke of Mississippi “sweltering in the heat of oppression,” he could have been describing my community, where blacks knew to keep their heads down and animosity toward Catholics and Jews was unapologetic.
Liberal and conservative, like left and right, wouldn’t be part of my lexicon for a while, but when King proclaimed, “I have a dream,” I instinctively cast my lot with those I later found out were liberals (then synonymous with “the left” and “progressive thought”).

The people on the other side were dedicated to preserving my hometown’s backward-looking status quo. This was all that my ten-year-old psyche needed to know. The knowledge carried me for a long time. Mythologies are helpful that way.

I began my activist career championing the 1968 presidential candidacies of Robert Kennedy and Eugene McCarthy, because both promised to end America’s misadventure in Vietnam. I marched for peace and farm worker justice, lobbied for women’s right to choose and environmental protections, signed up with George McGovern in ‘72 and got elected as the youngest delegate ever to a Democratic Convention.

Eventually I joined the staff of U.S. Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, D-Ohio.
In short, I became a card-carrying liberal, though I never actually got a card. (Bookkeeping has never been the left’s strong suit.) All my commitments centered on belief in equal opportunity, due process, respect for the dignity of the individual and solidarity with people in trouble. To my mind, Americans who had joined the resistance to Franco’s fascist dystopia captured the progressive spirit at its finest.

A turning point came at a dinner party on the day Ronald Reagan famously described the Soviet Union as the preeminent source of evil in the modern world. The general tenor of the evening was that Reagan’s use of the word “evil” had moved the world closer to annihilation. There was a palpable sense that we might not make it to dessert.

When I casually offered that the surviving relatives of the more than 20 million people murdered on orders of Joseph Stalin might not find “evil’” too strong a word, the room took on a collective bemused smile of the sort you might expect if someone had casually mentioned taking up child molestation for sport.

My progressive companions had a point. It was rude to bring a word like “gulag” to the dinner table.

I look back on that experience as the beginning of my departure from a left already well on its way to losing its bearings. Two decades later, I watched with astonishment as leading left intellectuals launched a telethon-like body count of civilian deaths caused by American soldiers in Afghanistan. Their premise was straightforward, almost giddily so: When the number of civilian Afghani deaths surpassed the carnage of September 11, the war would be unjust, irrespective of other considerations.

Stated simply: The force wielded by democracies in self-defense was declared morally equivalent to the nihilistic aggression perpetuated by Muslim fanatics.

Susan Sontag cleared her throat for the “courage” of the Al Qaeda pilots. Norman Mailer pronounced the dead of September 11 comparable to “automobile statistics.” The events of that day were likely premeditated by the White House, Gore Vidal insinuated. Noam Chomsky insisted that Al Qaeda at its most atrocious generated no terror greater than American foreign policy on a mediocre day.

All of this came back to me as I watched the left’s anemic, smirking response to Iraq’s election on January. Didn’t many of these same people stand up in the sixties for self-rule for oppressed people and against fascism in any guise? Yes, and to their lasting credit. But many had since made clear that they had also changed their minds about the virtues of Dr. King’s call for equal of opportunity.

These days the postmodern left demands that government and private institutions guarantee equality of outcomes. Any racial or gender “disparities” are to be considered evidence of culpable bias, regardless of factors such as personal motivation, training, and skill. This goal is neither liberal nor progressive; but it is what the left has chosen. In a very real sense it may be the last card held by a movement increasingly ensnared in resentful questing for group-specific rights and the subordination of citizenship to group identity. There’s a word for this: pathetic.

I smile when friends tell me I’ve “moved right.” I laugh out loud at what now passes for progressive on the main lines of the cultural left.

In the name of “diversity,” the University of Arizona has forbidden discrimination based on “individual style.” The University of Connecticut has banned “inappropriately directed laughter.” Brown University, sensing unacceptable gray areas, warns that harassment “may be intentional or unintentional and still constitute harassment.” (Yes, we’re talking “subconscious harassment” here. We’re watching your thoughts…)

Wait, it gets better. When actor Bill Cosby called on black parents to explain to their kids why they are not likely to get into medical school speaking English like “Why you ain’t” and “Where you is,” Jesse Jackson countered that the time was not yet right to “level the playing field.” Why not? Because "drunk people can’t do that … illiterate people can’t do that."

When self-styled pragmatic feminist Camille Paglia mocked young coeds who believe “I should be able to get drunk at a fraternity party and go upstairs to a guy’s room without anything happening,” Susan Estrich spoke up for gender-focused feminists who “would argue that so long as women are powerless relative to men, viewing ‘yes’ as a sign of true consent is misguided.”

I’ll admit my politics have shifted in recent years, as have America’s political landscape and cultural horizon. Who would have guessed that the U.S. senator with today’s best voting record on human rights would be not Ted Kennedy or Barbara Boxer but Kansas Republican Sam Brownback?

He is also by most measures one of the most conservative senators. Brownback speaks openly about how his horror at the genocide in the Sudan is shaped by his Christian faith, as Dr. King did when he insisted on justice for “all of God's children.”

My larger point is rather simple. Just as a body needs different medicines at different times for different reasons, this also holds for the body politic.

In the sixties, America correctly focused on bringing down walls that prevented equal access and due process. It was time to walk the Founders’ talk – and we did. With barriers to opportunity no longer written into law, today the body politic is crying for different remedies.

America must now focus on creating healthy, self-actualizing individuals committed to taking responsibility for their lives, developing their talents, honing their skills and intellects, fostering emotional and moral intelligence, all in all contributing to the advancement of the human condition.

At the heart of authentic liberalism lies the recognition, in the words of John Gardner, “that the ever renewing society will be a free society [whose] capacity for renewal depends on the individuals who make it up.” A continuously renewing society, Gardner believed, is one that seeks to “foster innovative, versatile, and self-renewing men and women and give them room to breathe.”

One aspect of my politics hasn’t changed a bit. I became a liberal in the first place to break from the repressive group orthodoxies of my reactionary hometown.

This past January, my liberalism was in full throttle when I bid the cultural left goodbye to escape a new version of that oppressiveness. I departed with new clarity about the brilliance of liberal democracy and the value system it entails; the quest for freedom as an intrinsically human affair; and the dangers of demands for conformity and adherence to any point of view through silence, fear, or coercion.

True, it took a while to see what was right before my eyes. A certain misplaced loyalty kept me from grasping that a view of individuals as morally capable of and responsible for making the principle decisions that shape their lives is decisively at odds with the contemporary left’s entrance-level view of people as passive and helpless victims of powerful external forces, hence political wards who require the continuous shepherding of caretaker elites.

Leftists who no longer speak of the duties of citizens, but only of the rights of clients, cannot be expected to grasp the importance (not least to our survival) of fostering in the Middle East the crucial developmental advances that gave rise to our own capacity for pluralism, self-reflection, and equality. A left averse to making common cause with competent, self-determining individuals – people who guide their lives on the basis of received values, everyday moral understandings, traditional wisdom, and plain common sense – is a faction that deserves the marginalization it has pursued with such tenacity for so many years.

All of which is why I have come to believe, and gladly join with others who have discovered for themselves, that the single most important thing a genuinely liberal person can do now is walk away from the house the left has built. The renewal of any tradition that deserves the name “progressive” becomes more likely with each step in a better direction.

(San Francisco Chronicle May 22, 2005.)

http://www.thompsonatlarge.com/work22.htm

Has any of the media asked the question, why do our chaplains have to wear gloves to handle the qur'an? Well, in case you happen to stumble across JW, let me be the first to tell you why. Our chaplains have to wear gloves because we and they (the chaplains) are filthy. Yes in the qur'an we are called filthy kafir (or kufar or kufr, etc.) so we must nor touch their book. It infuriates me that our government is going along with this dhimmitude or as I call it B.S.

See, this is what I'm talking about when I speak of the need for islam to reach out to the world in a non-hostile way. Assuming that islam is so perfect, and all other religions so indescribably filthy, that pastors need to wear gloves when handling the Quran, is an abhorrent, repulsive, and incredibly bigoted assumption.

I - and, I firmly expect, Ia - hope that islam can make this bridge into the acceptance of other cultures and faiths as equal to its own. It is long past time that the inherent superiority complex of islam was deconstructed, and that the underlying assumption of its scriptural superiority was refuted, by muslims, once and for all.

Peace,

Imam Geoff

AS THE WORLD TURNS???

THE DEMOCRATS TURN AWAY THE MAN WHO WOULD BE THE USA REP FOR THE UN=LON=AL SO THE UN=LON=AL KEEPS SCREWING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE THANKS TO THE DEMOCRATS!!!

OBSTRUCTION OF THE SAFTY OF THE USA!!!

WHO SAYS THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT DANGOURS!!!!

DEMOCRATS SIDE WITH THE EMEMIES OF THE USA!!

PA YOU NEED TO GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER PROTEST SPECTER HE DIDN'T VOTE WENT HOME FOR THE WEEK-END!!!

MAYBE DO NEED TO TAKE TO THE STREETS LET THEM KNOW WE ARE HERE AND PISSED!!!!

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Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

you know how they place a bible in all the hotel and motel rooms. what if we could put a quran in all the outhouses to replace all those sears catalogues. maybe it would catch on and we could put them in all public restrooms instead of toilet paper.

This is OT, but in a way appropriate. Click on the link, then click on Sound Clips, then click on "Holy Hand Grenade" - it is one of my favorites, kind of like Imam Geoff's verses.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=7930

No Korans- no problems.

Why the military violated the Constitution's 'establishment of religion clause' and provided cult materials (for free) to criminals (who should have been shot in Afghanistan 2 years ago, already) is the root of this folly.

Did Nick Berg get a Torah before Zarqawi sliced his head off with a butcher's knife?

No Korans, just 9mm deliverance.

"There have been allegations made by detainees," McClellan said. "We know that members of al Qaeda are trained to mislead and to provide false reports.

The Quran desecration allegations were made by freed Guantanamo prisoners. One might ask why the US is releasing Al-Qaeda prisoners...

'One might ask why the US is releasing Al-Qaeda prisoners...'

Shuggi, for once I agree with you. Islamic punishment for Islamic crime! Chop them in small bits and feed them to the sharks afterwards, that would be the way...

The US in its infinate goodness releases these fanatical murderers, beats me !

(Glad we agree on something!)

The Quran desecration allegations were made by freed Guantanamo prisoners. One might ask why the US is releasing Al-Qaeda prisoners...

Posted by: Shukri at May 26, 2005 10:08 PM

SO FAR 12 ARE DEAD DIED FIGHTING ON THE BATTLE FIELD!!!

GUESS THEY WEREN'T REALLY THAT GOOD OF FIGHTERS AFTER ALL!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Poster child for anger management

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/27/iraq/main546398_popup0_1.shtml

Why Muslims shouldn't play with matches

http://clinton-legacy.org/war10/1002572698.jpg