Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald assesses the new French Prime Minister, Dominique de Villepin:
Born in Sale, jeek-by-jowl to Rabat, Dominique de Villepin has always believed that having spent the first few years of his life in Morocco has given him great understanding of Islam. He knows nothing about it. He persists in believing that there is a "good" Islam, and that the teachings of that "good" Islam must be supported. What there really is, as Ataturk understood, is a "sanitized" Islam that can, with the army and the police ready to enforce it, be monitored in the mosques. This is not the "real" Islam. All of the texts, of Qur'an and hadith, and all of the commentators and jurisconsults, come down on the side of the real, "bad" Islam. But as long as police and army, as in Turkey, are willing to monitor the khutbas (sermons at Friday Prayers), to censor the radio and television and newspapers in Arabic, to have agents (probably Berbers) constantly reporting on what is going on with the boys in the banlieue, with their bullets and bombs, then things can be kept under control.But as in Turkey, eternal vigilance is the price of liberty from real Islam. Secularist supporters of Kemalism in Turkey know that the army is the final guarantor of Kemalism, and that the attempts of the non-secularists to gain power, in schools, in the police, in the government, are unceasing and extremely cunning, and the survival of Kemalism can never be assumed. Is this the future of France?
Even if that preening poseur and poetaster, D. de V., were suddenly to have had a change of heart, which is scarcely to be believed, his insistence that there is a "good" Islam and that the "bad" Islam is an aberration simply prolongs the confusion, and the day of intellectual reckoning.
And what will be the cost, to French taxpayers, of all that monitoring, all that paying for the interception of phone calls, all those agents in the mosques, all those security forces everywhere -- and with only the hope of sweeping back, as Kemalism sweeps back, the tide of Islam? Vaste programme, monsieur.
Will D. de V. solve France’s problem? The idea that there is a "problem" and that there must therefore be a "solution" is, dare one say it, a very naive notion, betraying a worldview that is often ascribed to Americans -- you know, we'll just pitch right in and fix things up.
There is a "problem" but as there is no solution, so it might better be described simply as a situation. Islam owes its origins to the need by pagan Arabs -- perhaps prompted by others, either a Jewish or a Christian sect attempting to convert them with things going awry -- to have, while conquering other, far more advanced, wealthy, settled populations of Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians and others (in the initial centuries of conquest), to possess their "own religion" which might emphasize the superiority of the Arabs -- hence the need to read the Qur'an only in Arabic, which book has been handed to the "best of people" and in their own language, and all the other features of the Arab supremacist ideology contained within a supposedly universalist religion.
The emphasis in the Western press and Western governments on terrorism is foolish, for terrorism is only one tactic, one instrument of the Jihad to spread Islam, or rather to create the conditions in which Islam may spread unopposed. Terrorism is not even the most effective tactic -- just as at present military force generally is not the best way to spread Islam across the globe The wherewithal to conduct this Jihad with greater force today has depended on several things -- but most of all, on the money that has flowed from an accident of geology. This money has been used most effectively, as the "wealth" weapon, to pay for all sorts of things: bribing diplomats (votes in the U.N.) and government officials (recycling petrodollars for their own benefit, and that of their friends), and businessmen (ditto), and journalists on the take. It has been used to pay for mosques and madrasas all over the world, both within the Islamic lands and in the Western world, thus helping to entrench Islam in countries whose political, economic, and social arrangements and whose peoples the adherents of Islam, cannot -- to the extent that they remain Believers (if they are silent dissenters from Islam, or open defectors--i.e., apostates -- it is another thing), possibly wish well.
The money weapon coincided with an event unheard-of in history: admission by one group of countries of large numbers of people who possessed a belief-system, an ideology, that inculcated hostility, often murderous hostility, toward the indigenous inhabitants of the lands they were permitted to come and settle among. This happened for various reasons, none of them attractive. The German and French need for manodopera, workers, led in the first case to the admission of Turkish "guest-workers" whom, it was dreamily believed, would carry with them the supposed "secularism" of Kemalist Turkey, and in any case they would be returning home. Neither assumption proved correct; the guest-workers came, but came to stay. And while a very few in the second and third generations have jettisoned Islam altogether, most have become more fervent in their faith.
In France the miscalculation was based on arrogant negligence of Islam, the psychology of Muslims, and the tenets of Islam. The works of French experts on the theory and practice of Islam -- Huart, Fagnan, Vajda, Dufourcq, Levi-Provencal, and many others -- simply were ignored, while johnny-jump-ups such as Olivier Roy and Gilles Kepel, who continue to be wrong about almost everything, were listened to. A preening poseur such as Dominique de Villepin, a crook such as Chirac, have not made matters better. There was, of course, the fateful decision by Giscard d'Estaing to "reunite families" in order to diminish criminal or sociopathic behavior by maghrebins. That led to many wives, and even more children -- and to birth rates four or five times higher than that of the non-Muslims. The results are there for all to see.
Islam and not-Islam are immiscible. Try as one might, if one is Tariq Ramadan, to keep up the mountebank's patter, the jig is up – as even Dominique de Villepin may be beginning to realize. The nonsense cannot continue for much longer; too many people are, on their own, studying Islam -- and refusing to accept what a small army of apologists, Muslim and non-Muslim, have attempted, not without success until now, to convince them that, despite all the mounting evidence in word, and in deed, they have nothing to fear from Islam. But they do.
And the best strategy of all is to have as little to do with the Muslim world as possible, so that, on their own, a sufficient number of Muslims may become aware that the political, economic, social, and intellectual ills of the Muslim peoples and polities is a direct result of Islam itself. No foreign aid, no attempts to play to Muslim demands that the West remold itself for Muslim sojourners, no rewriting of history to accommodate Muslim "self-esteem" by exaggerating intellectual or other achievements. And work steadily, even though the largest transfer of wealth in human history has already occurred (and much of it wasted) from the oil consumers to Arab and Muslim oil producers, to diminish that revenue, the value of those reserves that, if their true cost to Infidels were to be properly internalized, would shoot into the stratosphere.
Don’t expect any of this from Dominique de Villepin.
Since I heard the news about D de V, the song by the singing nun has taken over my brain:
Dominique, nique, nique
S'en allait tout simplement
Routier, pauvre et chantant
En tout chemin, en tout lieu
Il ne parle que du Bon Dieu
Il ne parle que du Bon Dieu
It has a really annoying tune; try it on a jihadi and he'll sing like a canary.
I was starting to worry that I hadn't read anything from Hugh for a little while.
Interesting and informative read as always. With Chirac's popularity in the toilette, I'm not sure who would be in prime position to take over, if not our vile m. Devillepin.
My dear waterdragon52:
You may be interested to know that Hugh has given us more articles this month than in any previous month.
In case you missed any, here is a list (scroll down through all the garbage I've written, and you'll see Hugh's articles):
http://jihadwatch.org/articles/
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Dominique de Villepin, Chirac. Both are islamophiles, both are anti-American.
Hugh
we don't!!
May 31, 2005
Week-end??
Church bomb unexploded but 22 killed and over 40 wounded in a mulsums killing Christians [Indonesia] but still no pictures or video?? Yet we see over and over when we are to think the mulsums are the victims so who is it who runs the MSM??? I would say mulsums!!!
May 30 2005 after 2 days of mulsums killing Christians at a market there was a Earthquake in Indonesia!!! WOW! Now if that aint telling you something!!! Mulsums kill Christians and 2 days later an Earthquake in a mulsum area!!
Rumor FAT BOY FLYS syira to iran and calls for help because his guys are surrendering and fleeing??
Something about needing guidance well that is what happens when you follow the devil!!
17:18] And Abraham said to God," Oh that Ishmael might live in your favor!" 19] God said, “Nevertheless, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall name him Isaac; and i will maintain My covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his offspring to come. 20] As for Ishmael, I have heeded you. I hereby bless him. I will make him fertile and exceedingly numerous. He shall be the father of twelve chieftains, and will make of him a great nation. 21] But My covenant I will maintain with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this season next year" 22] and when he was done speaking with him God was gone from Abraham.
23] then Abraham took his son Ishmael, and all his homeborn slaves and all those he had bought, every male in Abrahams household, and he circumcised the flesh of their foreskin on the very day, as God had Spoken to him.
FAVORS ISAAC!!!
THIS IS WHY IN THE QURAN YOU HAVE 5:32 IF YOU KILL A JEW WILL BE AS IF YOU KILL ALL MANKIND!!
NOW WHO IS CAUSEING TROBLE BUT THE MONSTERS WHO ARE AGAINST ISRAEL AND THE USA AND OTHERS WHO FOLLOW THE GOOD BOOK OF GOD THE TORHA AND BIBLE??
THEY WILL BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF ISHMAELS HOUSE!![Mulsums]
Mulsums blow up a mosque in Pakistan see pictures??
Still no pictures from the market bombing?? WOW ARE THEY ALL SAVAGES??
BOMB HITS NaTO HEADQUATERS IN Afghanistan ??
Rumor FAT BOY in iran??
N.Korea still playing games but their food is running out?? Can you say? sympathy?
Keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
Of course the Democrats in the senate are playing into their hand by putting their heads in the sand they will get your BUTTS SHOT OFF!!
USA to go to the WTO about France [AIRBUS} and China flooding the market with textiles??
LOOKS LIKE china better grow food for their stepchild North Korea because we don’t care the democrats have taken our humanity!! It is okay to ?? This is what terry Shivo have given the world!!
Euro down?? France does not want to be team players?? So does this mean the Europeans will not be united if the French can not rule?? Well if the EU becomes United Europe will this mean they only get one vote in the UN=LON=AL?? Just think of the Money saved ! While we are at it lets take all those who have their gangs in th UN like the AL AU all those little gangs and only give them one vote like the US or should we flood the UN+LON+AL with all 50 states and give them all a vote too!!
NO WONDER THE FRENCH VOTED NO!!
Pope Benedict went to Bari where St, Nichols was from 200,000 people showed up and no one died!! Boy this guy is smart!! Remember the Turks are trying to claim him??
Bosnians to send troops to Iraq to test if they are ready to join NATO???
Canadian Red Cross pleads guilty to distributing blood tainted with HIV and hepatitis C from the 1980s Now why would they do that?? Didn’t think there was even a test for the blood back then???
Democrats are screwing the Youths of the USA!! Sticking your head in the sand will only get your BUTT shoot off?? The democrats in the senate have their heads in the sand from every thing to energy missile defense [N. Korea shoot missile hit Alaska in 2000] to SS so since the parents have in America have raised their children to only care about self[me] will the me be like the French go on vacation to come home to find the old people all dead like in France [10,000 dead in france] yes old people dead and do they care no because the old people were costing to much money?? OH WELL?? The democrats in the senate say nothing is worth taken the fight to the enemy including 9/11 for less our grandparents flattened Europe and Japan!! [And their people are better for it] But the US senate democrats are worried what the french think or the Islamic terrorist around the world well the French can’t even get along with their neighbors? SO THEY STALL THE BOLTON’S nominee??
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44519
INVASION USA
Mexican commandos
seek control of border
U.S.-trained Zetas behind wave of violence killing hundreds over drug, smuggling routes
Hundreds have been killed in recent months in a wave of violence waged by the Zetas gang, headed by reputed drug kingpin Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, said Mexico's Attorney General Daniel Cabeza de Vaca.
Who says they are not dangerous?? If Americans learned about all the rules in Europe?? OH MY!! Like how much money you make says what kind of car you can drive [2, 4,6,8.clynder] That there is not unlimited electricity yea like in Iraq if you pull to much it shuts off?? OR we have the British T.V. tax to the queen if you want to plug in a TV to watch a video or DVD you had better have paid that tax or you could go to jail?? Your SS card not only has your picture but also your finger prints and it cost you money to get on not given free?? OH Yea the most European countries have the Draft?? You must always have ID on you just incase the police want to see it??
OH YEA when you go to visit and have to turn over your Passport to the hotel what do you think they do with it?? Well they give it to the police to register you??? NOW what are the senate democrats out their saying we should be more like the Europeans??
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
Japan and Russia to meet and work out their differences could be a good thing??
Russian oil king gets convicted to 9 years turns out this guy is a mulsum who Yelson let walk all over the Russian people? I see this as no different than Tyco!! OR Enron but the Russians don’t give bail just like we don’t when there is fear of flight?? Just like CRAIN BOY!!!
They still have judges who don’t play to Hollywood!!
BOY Cspan over and over this week-end was pumping the mulsum crap but like the democrats in the senate the more they talk the more damage they do to themselves!!!
43% of Dallas schools50% of all students speak only Spanish??
WOW! TX has been invaded never thought that would work in TX where are the Austin’s, Huston’s, and Paul Reveres of our day??
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44519
INVASION USA
The spike in killings and kidnappings in northern Mexico in recent months has made headlines and prompted federal agents and soldiers to patrol the streets of Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas.
On Thursday in Matamoros, across from Brownsville, Texas, a federal agent was killed in a shootout with two men who Cabeza de Vaca said were members of the Zetas, a group of military deserters believed to be loyal to Cardenas.
http://www.latinodawah.org/
Latino American Dawah Organization
Latino American Dawah Organization(LADO) is a nonprofit organization that was founded in 1997 by a handful of converts to Islam. Our mission is to promote Islam among the Latino community within the United States. We also educate Latinos and others about the legacy of Islam in Spain and Latin America and provide free information about Islam to all interested parties. Alhamdulillah (All praise is due to God), many Latinos are embracing Islam. Some feel that they are reclaiming their Islamic heritage.
NOW CAN PEOPLE STILL ADD 2+2=4???
MULSUMS & aclu GOING AFTER CROSS IN DESERT could Arlington cemetery be next??
Crosses being burned today around the country are mulsums doing so to cause black riots thanks to the Christians blacks they aint going for it.. it is the same thing that has been happening in Europe swa stickers put on graves by mulsums?? The courts are siding with the ACLU on the cross to honor WW1 Soldiers Thanks BILL?? What about the mulsums building a mosque on federal property??
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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THRAET GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECIVED BY THEM AMEN
Catherine:
Of Ishmael Genesis 16:12 says
'And he will be a wild ass of a man and his hand shall be against the hand of everyman and everyman's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the face of all his brethren'.
Hugh says,
"...led in the first case to the admission of Turkish "guest-workers" whom, it was dreamily believed, would carry with them the supposed "secularism" of Kemalist Turkey,..."
Prior to Kemalist Turkey, Great Britain sided with Turkey against Russia during the Crimean War.
Did this action precipitate contemporary Western support for the Muslim cause in the Balkans and Chechnya?
An incisive and humourous article by Mark Steyn in the DT
Instead, Europe's "consensus" politics has ruled more and more topics unfit for discussion, leaving voters with a choice between Eurodee and Eurodum, a left-of-right-of-left-of-centre party and a right-of-left-of-right-of-left-of-centre party. None of these plodding technocratic parties seems eager to talk about any of the faintly unrespectable subjects on the minds of voters - Muslim immigration, increasing crime, Turkey, EU labour mobility. So voters, naturally, are turning elsewhere, and in five years' time the entire Continent could end up with the same flight from the centre as we've seen in Ulster.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;sessionid=QCTP3EKUM15X3QFIQMGSM5WAVCBQWJVC?xml=/opinion/2005/05/31/do3102.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/05/31/ixportal.html
Note the cautionary sting in the last sentence.
I really do not see any alternative to an almost complete cessation of contact with the muslim world bar the necessary. Immigration of muslims has to stop, and the ones that are here, encouraged to leave. Another suggestion is an exchange of populations - muslims in the West for Christians in muslim nations. An exchange is not considered as ethnic cleansing. This is probably the most humane method to solve an increasingly intolerable situation.
Just after 9/11, many muslims, particularly in the US, thought that their days in the US were numbered. They were running across to Canada to avoid deportation to dar al islam. But Bush's tepid response then and since, has given muslims much comfort, and to the extent, that they are emboldened enough to go on the offensive. The fact that Robert Spencer is now getting the attention of murderous jihadis comfortably living in the West, is an indication of how confident they have become. They have judged America's magnanimous response to 9/11, as a sign of weakness. It is always a mistake to be charitable to islamists. They certainly never are, for in victory, they murder the defeated at will, till they are unable to carry on physically.
skeet street posted:Did this action precipitate contemporary Western support for the Muslim cause in the Balkans and Chechnya?
I'm afraid that US support of the muslim cause has been a consistent feature of American post-war foreign policy. This is to a large extent due to Saudi influence. In the Balkans, SA's pressure and oil coercion, was more then enough to guarantee US turning on the Serbs, despite the fact that most of Europe, particularly Britain and France were against it. In Britain, we particularly remember the brave resistance put up by the Serbs against the genocidal Nazis.
He's French, what were you expecting? Courage, loyalty and decisiveness!
Just alittle something I ran across??
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/5/30/222009.shtml
Turkey Plays Down French No Vote
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, May 31, 2005
Turkish leaders played down France's rejection of a proposed European Union constitution Monday saying it would not affect Turkey's efforts to join the European bloc.
Turkish foreign minister, Abdullah Gul, said the rejection of the EU charter by some 55 percent of French voters was something which concerns the French public, not Turkey. He added that starting membership negotiations was in Turkey's hands. Turkey's Islam-rooted government took power two years ago pledging to lead the country into the EU. The government, led by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has approved a broad array of legal changes that persuaded EU leaders to open accession talks with Turkey. The talks are scheduled to start on October 3.
Although the European constitution makes no reference to Turkey's possible membership, the "No" camp in France played on voters fears of admitting the large, poor and predominantly Muslim nation.
NOW I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HUNTING DOGS!!!!!
Maybe next fall the hunting season will be great!!!!
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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Victory to Destroy ALL islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
Catherine:
Of Ishmael Genesis 16:12 says
'And he will be a wild ass of a man and his hand shall be against the hand of everyman and everyman's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the face of all his brethren'.
Posted by: Elephant at May 31, 2005 05:26 PM
YES!!
Gold Star for you today!!
Genesis Chapter 16
9] and the angle of the LORD said to her “ Go back to your mistress, and submit to her harsh treatment” 10] and the angle of the LORD said to her “I will greatly increase your offspring/ and they shall be too many to count” 11] the angle of the LORD said to her further,” behold you are with child/ and shall bear a son;/ you shall call him Ishmael./ For the LORD has paid head to your suffering./ 12] he shall be a wild ass of a man;/ his hand against everyone,/ and everyone’s hand against him;/ he shall dwell alongside of all his kinsmen” 13] and she called the LORD who spoke to her, “ you are EL-roi” by which she meant. “Have I not gone on seeing after he saw me!” 14] Therefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi; it is between Kadesh and Bered.-
IS ANYONE REALY SURPRISED?? If you know about the Torah or the Bible then you would understand they worship Ishmael and what it says about him will be an ass of a man his hand against every one!!
that these images of angles were animated by them and were intercessors with god for man. The most celebrated and central object of arab worship however was the blackstone of Mecca set in the corner of a square building called the Kaaba, in which also are placed the images of Abraham and Ismael each carrying in their hands divine arrows.
SO WHEN THE GO AROUND AND AROUND THEY WORSHIP ISHMAEL KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT HIM??
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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
DP111,
Actually, my question concerned the state of affairs prior to the creation of an Arabia run by the family of Saud.
Did the UK support, in an attempt to curtail Austrian and Russian influence in the regions of the Balkans and Chechnya, the subjugation of European Christians by Turkey; a support which ushered in a "model" for the modern Western world (USA) to sympathetically follow in regards towards the Muslim cause in both regions?
Posted by: DP111 at May 31, 2005 07:31 PM
Now why would you say France and Britian were against it. It was Europe who wanted this war because they thought they could appesse the mulsums France lost 2 planes over Bosina????
NO DO NOT REWRITE HISTORY!!
BILLY WAS BUSY AND EASY TO FOOL!!!
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God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
Dominique was the Interior Minister for the last 2 years. One of his 'projects' was to frenchify Islam. Direct funding of a French Imam training school, mosque funding, etc. Funny haven't heard anything about that. Bet those imams snookered him good and are laughing all the way to the bank as they conspire to wipe the sissy French infidels off the earth.
Brilliant as always Hugh. I hope to God that you're correct that:
"The nonsense cannot continue for much longer; too many people are, on their own, studying Islam -- and refusing to accept what a small army of apologists, Muslim and non-Muslim, have attempted, not without success until now, to convince them that, despite all the mounting evidence in word, and in deed, they have nothing to fear from Islam."
Is it my imagination or am I beginning to get the feeling that awareness of what Islam is all about is starting to spread exponentially faster?
I get the sense our own admininstration may be on the verge of acknowledging that we're not fighting a war against "terrorism" but against Islamic jihad. Once that happens, it may well open the floodgates to speaking openly about all the subtler forms of jihad, including demographic jihad (and hopefully, some open acknowledgement of what 'taqiyyah' is as well).
I haven't seen any mention of it in the blogs, but did anyone else catch Bush speaking at a press conference about a week ago (sitting in one of those, I assume, east wing chairs) and responding to a Q about the Saddam in his underwear pics (just after the Newsweek riots) and saying, in essence, pictures don't cause riots, rather people believing in a barbaric ideology do? Has anyone seen that quote anywhere? Cause it kind of shocked me, just in passing. I thought to myself, did he just say that? Is he breaking the ice here, in a subtle way?
Secondly, you mention the increased radicalism of the 2nd and 3rd generation of European Muslim immigrants. This fact is quite apparent and seems to get very little mention in the press. It bodes badly for the "democratization" strategy though. I am wondering whether the cause of it doesn't simply lie in the fact that the numbers of Muslims in certain European countries may be approaching the classic "tipping point" as it were, where their sheer numbers are becoming a sign of strength and thus a signal to progress towards open jihad? And once they reach that 10-15% mark, there may be no going back . Is that the proportion at which the "tipping", typically happens? Cause if so, all I can say is, we better understand clearly what is going on with that so we don't repeat the same mistake here in the US!
Dominique de Villepin was the guy who jet set around the world ginning up anti war support so Jaque could continue getting his OFF dollars He is as greasy and corrupt as they come .Good choice for france.
"And what will be the cost, to French taxpayers, of all that monitoring, all that paying for the interception of phone calls, all those agents in the mosques, all those security forces everywhere"
As a taxpayer who had no say in this utopia of Multi-culturalism (imposed in Australia by Labor in three short years), don't you just love Multi-culturalism and its COST to society? The crime it brings? The new laws imposed on our liberties to keep things under control? What a joy it is!
Pity we have forfeited UNITY for DIVERSITY. Never has history shown that DIVERSITY can either win wars, or hold a country together. The Balkanisation of our country awaits us.... Wake up Western Countries (aka ONCE Christian countries)
Caroline when 9/11 happened, there were Australian born Muslims (teens) dancing for joy in our streets.
One has to wonder where they get their ideas from (Father, Mother, Mosque maybe?).
It also showed (to me at least) that unlike some other eastern religions, Islam cannot assimilate into our society, for they were dancing for joy at its destruction.
I really do not see any alternative to an almost complete cessation of contact with the muslim world bar the necessary. Immigration of muslims has to stop, and the ones that are here, encouraged to leave. Another suggestion is an exchange of populations - muslims in the West for Christians in muslim nations. An exchange is not considered as ethnic cleansing. This is probably the most humane method to solve an increasingly intolerable situation.
DP111,
A possible way out of the Eurabia.
The alternative is conflagration.
Today, the European native population might let the immigration issue slide. This window of complacency is fast closing. The 3 largest cities in the Netherlands go muslim-majority in 5 years. The muslim populations hit critical mass at 25-30%, that's when they'll have muscles behind all the rhetoric of today, like, "We'll rule Europe".
It's like the pop quiz in Speed:
Europe today is a train going full steam on a track. At the other end of the track, we can see another train coming, towards us, it's on our track, it's EURABIA, and it's bearing down on us, full-steam, distance about 10-20 years. A definite head-on collision. What do we do?
Europe today is a train going full steam on a track. At the other end of the track, we can see another train coming, towards us, it's on our track, it's EURABIA, and it's bearing down on us, full-steam, distance about 10-20 years. A definite head-on collision. What do we do?
Posted by: skidd at June 1, 2005 12:20 AM
GET YOU PEOPLE TO THE STREETS PROTEST SHOW THAT YOU ARE BEHIND THE USA WITH BIG POSTERS!!!
SHOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE YOUR HEAD IS OUT OF THE SAND AND YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR BUTTS SHOT OFF!!!
IF EUROPE DOES NOT PROTEST IN MASS TO SHOW THEY ARE WILLING TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS EVIL ONCE AGAIN YOU WILL BE LOST TO IT!!
JUST LIKE IN WW2??
BUT THIS TIME YOU HAVE BIT THE HAND THAT WILL PULL FROM THE DEEP SO A LITTLE KISS ASS IS IN ORDER!!!!!!!!!
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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
We will not fight for you but with you!!
DP111, that was a spot on article, I was happy to see Muslim immigration at the top there.
But our so called elites won't take any notice...
Bush let out what he really thinks, didn't he.
So what happens now if we suddenly declare that we will accept no more Muslim immigration, that the Mosques and other Muslims centres would be closed down, that we would advise the Muslim population to go and live in Muslim countries. That a 10% Muslim tax has been charged to pay for our additional policing costs.
There will be riots on the streets, that is the doomsday scenario that our politicians are scared of, so they do nothing and let Saudi money corrupt and undermine our socities.
Now for a bit of fun, so elites, that statement makes me a racist, well Islam is not a race, it is a belief system and an ideology, I have no problems with immigration on the basis of race, I do have a problem with this IDEOLOGY, so that makes me a racist in your eyes.
Racism, the theory that human abilities are determined by race.
Now lets change that to match the elites use of the word racism.
the theory that human abilities are determined by their surrender to the will of allah.
Look under the BBC section on the Dutch vote, there is one of those pictures of people and what they are going to vote. This one caught the eye...
Glenn Seymonson: "No"
Cook, 42
I am voting "No" because I don't think any more countries should join Europe. More people will come here to work, and it will be even more difficult to find a job.
Soon we are going to be a Muslim state. There are already mosques everywhere.
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So using eurodefinitions he is a racist, but the elites won't listen to him... or me, only Islamics.