In "History and Mystery" in Slate (thanks to Dave Washburn), Christopher Hitchens skewers the dhimmi editorial policies of the New Duranty Times, pointing out the importance of something I have emphasized many times -- that we should listen to how the jihadists themselves characterize what they are doing, and respond accordingly:
When the New York Times scratches its head, get ready for total baldness as you tear out your hair. A doozy classic led the "Week in Review" section on Sunday. Portentously headed "The Mystery of the Insurgency," the article rubbed its eyes at the sheer lunacy and sadism of the Iraqi car bombers and random murderers. At a time when new mass graves are being filled, and old ones are still being dug up, writer James Bennet practically pleaded with the authors of both to come up with an intelligible (or defensible?) reason for his paper to go on calling them "insurgents."I don't think the New York Times ever referred to those who devastated its hometown's downtown as "insurgents." But it does employ this title every day for the gang headed by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. With pedantic exactitude, and unless anyone should miss the point, this man has named his organization "al-Qaida in Mesopotamia" and sought (and apparently received) Osama Bin Laden's permission for the franchise. Did al-Qaida show "interest in winning hearts and minds … in building international legitimacy … in articulating a governing program or even a unified ideology," or any of the other things plaintively mentioned as lacking by Mr. Bennet?
The answer, if we remember our ABC, is yes and no, with yes at least to the third part of the question. The Bin Ladenists did have a sort of "governing program," expressed in part by their Taliban allies and patrons. This in turn reflected a "unified ideology." It can be quite easily summarized: the return of the Ottoman Empire under a caliphate and a return to the desert religious purity of the seventh century (not quite the same things, but that's not our fault). In the meantime, anyway, war to the end against Jews, Hindus, Christians, unbelievers, and Shiites. None of the "experts" quoted in the article appeared to have remembered these essentials of the al-Qaida program, but had they done so, they might not be so astounded at the promiscuous way in which the Iraqi gangsters pump out toxic anti-Semitism, slaughter Nepalese and other Asian guest-workers on video and gloat over the death of Hindus, burn out and blow up the Iraqi Christian minority, kidnap any Westerner who catches their eye, and regularly inflict massacres and bombings on Shiite mosques, funerals, and assemblies.
A letter from Zarqawi to Bin Laden more than a year ago, intercepted by Kurdish intelligence and since then well-authenticated, spoke of Shiism as a repulsive heresy and the ignition of a Sunni-Shiite civil war as the best and easiest way to thwart the Crusader-Zionist coalition. The actions since then have precisely followed the design, but the design has been forgotten by the journal of record. The Bin Laden and Zarqawi organizations, and their co-thinkers in other countries, have gone to great pains to announce, on several occasions, that they will win because they love death, while their enemies are so soft and degenerate that they prefer life. Are we supposed to think that they were just boasting when they said this? Their actions demonstrate it every day, and there are burned-out school buses and clinics and hospitals to prove it, as well as mosques (the incineration of which one might think to be a better subject for Islamic protest than a possibly desecrated Quran, in a prison where every inmate is automatically issued with one.)
Then we might find a little space for the small question of democracy. The Baath Party's opinion of this can be easily gauged, not just from its record in power but from the rancid prose of its founding fascist fathers. As for the Bin Ladenists, they have taken extraordinary pains to say, through the direct statements of Osama and of Zarqawi, that democracy is a vile heresy, a Greek fabrication, and a source of profanity. For the last several weeks, however, the Times has been opining every day that the latest hysterical murder campaign is a result of the time it has taken the newly elected Iraqi Assembly to come up with a representative government. The corollary of this mush-headed coverage must be that, if a more representative government were available in these terrible conditions (conditions supplied by the gangsters themselves), the homicide and sabotage would thereby decline. Is there a serious person in the known world who can be brought to believe such self-evident rubbish?
On many occasions, the jihadists in Iraq have been very specific as well as very general. When they murdered Sergio Vieira de Mello, the brilliant and brave U.N. representative assigned to Baghdad by Kofi Annan, the terrorists' communiqué hailed the death of the man who had so criminally helped Christian East Timor to become independent of Muslim Indonesia. (This was also among the "reasons" given for the bombing of the bar in Bali.) I think I begin to sense the "frustration" of the "insurgents." They keep telling us what they are like and what they want. But do we ever listen? Nah. For them, it must be like talking to the wall. Bennet even complains that it's difficult for reporters to get close to the "insurgents": He forgets that his own paper has published a conversation with one of them, in which the man praises the invasion of Kuwait, supports the cleansing of the Kurds, and says that "we cannot accept to live with infidels."...
In my ears, "insurgent" is a bit like "rebel" or even "revolutionary." There's nothing axiomatically pejorative about it, and some passages of history have made it a term of honor. At a minimum, though, it must mean "rising up." These fascists and hirelings are not rising up, they are stamping back down. It's time for respectable outlets to drop the word, to call things by their right names (Baathist or Bin Ladenist or jihadist would all do in this case), and to stop inventing mysteries where none exist.
Read it all.
"On many occasions, the jihadists in Iraq have been very specific as well as very general. When they murdered Sergio Vieira de Mello, the brilliant and brave U.N. representative assigned to Baghdad by Kofi Annan, the terrorists' communiqué hailed the death of the man who had so criminally helped Christian East Timor to become independent of Muslim Indonesia."
East-Timor regained her independence solely thanks to the non stop efforts of the Portuguese diplomacy and of the Portuguese people (that showed up in mass demonstrations that gathered hundreds of thousands against the Indonesian occupation). When the Indonesian economy hit rock bottom, Suharto was forced to step down and Bill Clinton's interference was crucial to force Indonesia to agree on a referendum.
Religion had indeed a decisive role in the Timor/Indonesia occupation: Catholicism was the one thing that prevented the people from being assimilated by the much larger Muslim country, it give the East-Timorees a much needed identity.
Sérgio Vieira de Mello was very important during the UN administration of the territory: he kept a rather explosive territory under control, and that allowed the referendum to happen in such a smooth way (despite all the Indonesian attempts to tamper with the new democracy).
All this to say that while religion had indeed a role during the brutal occupation of East Timor, Sérgio Vieira de Mello was not murdered in Iraq because of what he did in East Timor: he was murdered because he was at the UN HQ in Baghdad at the wrong time.
Even the Iranians have stopped using the word 'insurgent'...
http://blog.medyadaily.com/2005/05/when-iranian-tv-smiles.html
Another Kurdish blogger, the excellent Kurdo, noticed this began right after new (Shia) president Jaffari was sworn in. Who managed to avoid using the word 'democracy' in his oath:
http://kurdo.blogspot.com/2005/05/update-on-how-jafaari-changed-iraqi.html
So the Shias are thick as thieves and the jihadi Sunnis want to provoke a civil war. One way and another, we might just want to hold our breath before hailing the spread of democracy in that part of the world.
Apologies - Jaffari is prime minister, not president
one small step forward out of the psychological morass -collectively described as "political correctness"
can we hope for more advocacy of the lost concept of self defense
and the promotion of the non-acceptance of victimhood
A Sistani Iraq will be the same or worse than a Khomeini Iran.
Check out his website. This piece of s@#*t had himself operated on by the 'filthy infidels'- but won't meet with them or shake hands...
Jaffari obviously is just another thug. Don't the Americans realize that they have the 'RIGHT TO RULE'- so why not go for it and show those savages that indeed they have the WILL TO RULE!
No, couldn't expect that from a Bushie...
The NYT is publishing more about murder and torture by American guards of Iraqi prisoners.
While most of this is true, NYT will inflame more passions and get more people killed in their zeal to bummer America. Is their intent to inform or inflame, to educate or incite? Since incitement is a no brainer, NYT should join Newsweek in the hall of shame.
The Iranian Permanent Representative to the UN ( forgot his name) said that democracy is inconsistant with Islam. He is right, if you are a muslim who wont budge an inch. If your fundamentalism overwhelms your common sense. You notice that the people making these quotes, are not the lackys...it is the power brokers, clerics,
who already have x ammount of power and are seeking more. Seeking power by death , destruction and selfish manipulation of the masses, is black magic. Proof that Islamic clerics fool around with demons.
The worshippers of death, are lying. If they really loved death, those very same clerics would be arranging mass suicides. Of course, thats prohibited, while mass murder is not.
So those who love death, are not in love with it for themselves, they love it for others...charming...why anyone gives these people one iota of credibility is beyond me....
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ITS ABOUT TIME PEOPLE STOP BEING PC
HAVING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND WILL ONLY GET YOUR BUTT SHOT OFF!!!!
May 20, 2005
Saw the flags eL sader[YELLOW BULLY COWARD FAT BOY] painted for peole to walk on??
Now if that is their talent they are in big troble they could not even make 2 triangals BIG TROUBLE!!! Only about 25 protesters and then I saw people walking to prayers and you guessed it they walked on the side not in the middle of course we will see the MONSTER BULLY’s later today making the Iraqi People walk in the middle against their will???
I WISH THE IRAQI PEOPLE WOULD STAND UP AND KILL THE BULLIES!!!!
These MONSTERS are not school yard bullies they have to be KILLED so they can not hurt anyone else!!!
Some day the Iraqi People will stand up and FIGHT these MONSTERS it is like the Wife who is beaten everyday by her husband IN the USA when she has had enough and picks up a weapon and kills him?? In the USA the courts understand and have Mersey on the Wife!!!!
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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYSE TO THEIR THREAT LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THEM AMEN
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1st hurrican of the season hits El Savodor?? Have we found Islamic Terrorist There???
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Posted by: Terminator at May 20, 2005 11:07 AM
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!!
After all why would the Democrats support the American People better to support the bullies who cut off peoples heads??
This crap is why they keep loseing THE DEMOCRATS OF THE USA SUPPORT OUR ENEMIES!!!
YES THEY ARE MORE UPSET ABOUT PICTURES OF PANTIES ON THE HEAD THEN THEY ARE PEOPLE WITH NO HEADS BECAUSE THE WERE CUT OFF BY ISLAMIC TERRORIST MONSTERS!!!
YES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE GET IT AND THAT IS WHY THE DEMOCRATS KEEP LOSEING!!!!
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GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM OPEN THE WORLDS EYES TO THEIR THREAT LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS EVIL AMEN
The entire media, including the likes of Oreilly, Hannity,call them insurgents, and that aggravates me to no end.
I was watching Abu Dhabi News this morning. If you don't have Dish, you can watch it via Quictime here Mosaic
The Sunni Muslim Scholars Association, has called for a three day shut down of Mosques in protest against the Shi'a, because of violence in Iraq, they also accuse the Shi'a of being collaborators.
Now here's the kicker, the violence in Iraq is being perpretrated by Sunni Jihadis, against the "polytheists" (mushrik) Shi'a.
And the Sunni scholars have warned the Sunni's not to join the Iraqi police or National Guard.
To date, I know of only one Muslim scholar who has been killed, supposedly by Mogtada al Sadr's crew, more likely by Zarqawi's crew as he was probably a collaborator with the government.
The Sunnis have also put on notice any Sunni who works for or the government, especially in the government itself.
The Muslims do to each other, what they do to us, they initiate violence and aggression and then whine as if they were the victims.
In related news the Ayatollahs of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (which is Shi'a, which includes the Prime Minister Ja'afari and all the Ayatollahs) has just announced their solidarity with the Government of Iran (the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iran) and in defiance of history (the Iraq Iran war) have declared that the Iraqi and Iranians Shi'a have always been brothers and united. (Millions of Shi'a Iraqis and Iranians slaughtered each other during the Iraq Iran war, the longest state v state war of the 20th century)
Iraq is on the way to becoming part of a larger Shi'a Islamic Empire.
On the one hand there is the Sunni Wahhabiyyah Jihadis like the Muslim Brotherhood (Zarqarwi and related Jihadis) on the other the Imperialistic Shi'a.
From a western point of view, there is no difference, their versions of Shari'a are virtually identical, their squabble is theological and irrelevant to the west.
Not quite related, I also see on occasion Arab News Network (ANN) broadcast from London, this station is so obviously subversive, partisan and anti western I can't imagine that it is more than an abuse of free speech. It is akin to allowing NAZI Germany to broadcast from London during WWII.
The US has nothing similar,, Yet. I wonder when that will change?
Blair and his government will be the ruin of England.
[quote]can we hope for more advocacy of the lost concept of self defense
and the promotion of the non-acceptance of victimhoodposted by PCKills[/quote]
I'm with you there, unfortunately George Bush, Congress the Christian Right, and even white males are now playing the victim card, claiming that Christianity and family values are being persecuted.
To wit the rhetoric used to get radical judicial activist judges confirmed.
Bush used the same victim rhetoric to justify his Faith Based Initatives, which congress wouldn't pass, and he finally issued an executive order, and now we have Mullahs in every govenment agency.
What was he said: something like a charity shouldn't be excluded from government support because it is religious, now any charity that wants government help HAS to reinvent itself and align with a religion.
I agree with you, I also agree with their characterization of Mr Anne Coulter (check out "his" Adams Apple). Coulter is an embarassment to true conservativism, and a liar on top of it.
This torture thing has me outraged.
First the Geneva Convention only applies to uniformed fighters of opposing armies, it exempts partisans, guerrillas (and Jihadis).
The allies tortured and executed partisans and spies during WWII, and so did the Germans, the Germans however were (foolish on our part) tried for executing partians, and the history is now part of the propaganda of WWII, and we are experiencing blow back or unintended adverse consequences because of it.
These Guerrillas and partisans aka Jihadis, deserve nothing, except a determination of their guilt or innocence and since they will lie, the only way that information can be had is via some other tactic. Doesn't sodium pentathol work?
The downside is, that if these Jihadis are tortured and then released, we have only released an even angrier and now experienced hornet.
The Rumsfeld Pentagon not so long ago, allowed the Afghan government to release 1,000 of the most virulent, American hating Taliban fighters, who immediately fled to Pakistan where they have regrouped, refitted, rearmed and are now the experienced leadership of a new wave of Taliban Jihadis who have just started their campaign anew in Afghanistan (if not migrating to other parts of the world where they can share their expertise).
These people don't take prisoners, they summarily execute any infidel (including other Muslims) who fall into their hands.
Time for the Administration to tell the world the truth, and take the gloves off.
The Geneva convention does not apply, nor does the rationale behind it. Which was treat your enemies prisoners humanely, else you justify inhumane treatment of your soldiers in their hands.
There was not one innocent in Gitmo, I'm positive. All were captured in battle and that makes them enemy, and they weren't wearing uniforms of their government and that makes them partisans and there rights are forfeit under international law.
Since they aren't American citizens, the constitution does not protect them, and those that are should be tried for murder or attempted murder of US soldiers. (Can't try them for treason because there is no declared war)
CAIR Canada has inflicted such a fear in the media outlet by their threats of Law Suits and
protests to the Government for License reviews,because of this you will be lucky if you hear any mention of the suicide killers being Jihadists.
Just go to the CBC.ca website and try to find any mention in their archives of the 19 9/11 hijackers being Muslims,even though THEY themselves professed to be avid followers of Islam and Allah.
I know we are seeing Muslims killing other Muslims,but this savage behaviour degrades all
humans and does little to separate us from the animals. My God says we are all related and
these thugs that are consumed with hate are acting out by their own beliefs and have nothing to do with our real father in Heaven.
NO ISLAM - KNOW PEACE
giauor posted:Iraq is on the way to becoming part of a larger Shi'a Islamic Empire.
That has been on the cards since Saddam was toppled.
Then what? I believe that the Sunni world ie the Arabs, will not stand for it, and the Arab-Iran war will start up again. The only thing that will prevent such a war, will be the presence of coalition forces, to forestall any invasion from either side. That, as far as I'm concerned will be very bad for us, as we will be in the middle of a centuries old theocratic war.
The downside is, that if these Jihadis are tortured and then released, we have only released an even angrier and now experienced hornet.
Posted by: Giaour at May 20, 2005 01:34 PM
AND THEY WERE SO MAD AS HORENTS AS YOU PUT IT THE ONES WE HAVE LET GO!!!
ARE NOW DEAD FIGHTING ONCE AGAIN NOW ARE YOU SAYING YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ISLAIMIC TERRORIST BEING KILLED???
ARE WE GOING HUNTING OR WHAT????
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WE DON'T NEED PROPAGANDA WE ARE WHAT WE ARE AND THE FLY IS GROWING AND IT IS TIME TO STOP SWATING AT THE FLYS AND CALL IN TERMINX
Qur’an 9:113 “It is not fitting for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray for the forgiveness for disbelievers, even though they be close relatives, after it is clear to them that they are the inmates of the Flaming Hell Fire.”
Qur’an 5:78 “Curses were pronounced on the unbelievers, the Children of Israel who rejected Islam, by the tongues of David and of Jesus because they disobeyed and rebelled.”
Tabari VII:85 “The Qaynuqa were the first Jews to infringe the agreement between them and the Messenger.” [We are not told how they “infringed.”] “The campaign of the Prophet against the Banu Qaynuqa was in Shawwal (March 27, 624) in the second year of the Hijrah [migration from Mecca].”
WHAT ABOUT THE FLIGHTS TO STOP TO SAUDI ARABIA AND THE GET OUT BY MARCH 26TH OF INDONEISA??
Tabari VII:86 “Gabriel brought down the following verse to the Messenger: ‘If you apprehend treachery from any people (with whom you have a treaty), retaliate by breaking off (relations) with them.’ [8:58] When Gabriel had finished delivering this verse, the Prophet said, ‘I fear the Qaynuqa.’ It was on the basis of this verse that Muhammad advanced on them.”
Ishaq:363 “The Prophet turned away from him so Abd Allah put his hand on the collar of the Messenger’s robe. Muhammad said, ‘Let go of me!’ He was so angry his face turned black. Then he said, ‘Damn you, let me go!’ Abd Allah replied, ‘No, by God, I will not let you go until you treat my ally humanely. There are seven hundred men among them who defended me from my foes when I needed their help. And now, you would mow them down in a single morning? By God I do not feel safe around here any more. I am afraid of what the future may have in store.’ So the Messenger said, ‘You can have them.’”
WHY HAS THE STATE DEPARTMENT NOT HEARD THIS??
Ishaq:365/Tabari VII:94 “Muhammad bin Maslamah said, ‘O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.’ ‘Say what you like,’ Muhammad replied. ‘You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.’”
WHAT DOES STATE SAY ABOUT THIS??
Ishaq:368 “Ka’b’s body was left prostrate. After his fall, all the Nadir Jews were brought low. Sword in hand we cut him down. By Muhammad’s order we were sent secretly by night. Brother killing brother. We lured him to his death with guile [cunning or deviousness]. Traveling by night, bold as lions, we went into his home. We made him taste death with our deadly swords. We sought victory for the religion of the Prophet.”
SO ALL THIS SH-T ABOUT WE ONLY WANT PEACE IS JUST BS
Tabari VII:97 “The next morning, the Jews were in a state of fear on account of our attack upon the enemy of Allah. After the assassination, the Prophet declared, ‘Kill every Jew.’”
Bukhari:V1B1N6 “Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country.”
REMEMBER EVERY COUNTRY WHO’S EMPIRE HAS GONE AGAINST THE JEWS HAS BEEN DEFEATED!
Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:369 “Thereupon Mas’ud leapt upon Sunayna, one of the Jewish merchants with whom his family had social and commercial relations and killed him. The Muslim’s brother complained, saying, ‘Why did you kill him? You have much fat in you belly from his charity.’ Mas’ud answered, ‘By Allah, had Muhammad ordered me to murder you, my brother, I would have cut off your head.’ Wherein the brother said, ‘Any religion that can bring you to this is indeed wonderful!’”
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST WAKE UP!!
Qur’an 59:14 “The Jews will not unite and fight against you except from behind walls. They hate themselves. You would think they were united, but their hearts are divided. That is because these [Jews] are a people devoid of sense. Like those who recently preceded them [the Meccans at Badr], they [the Jews who were just sent into the desert to die] have tasted the evil result of their conduct. And for them a grievous punishment.”
THIS IS WHAT THEY THINK??
Qur’an 59:16 “They [the Jews] are like Satan when he tells man, ‘Not to believe,’ When (man) denies, Satan says, ‘I have nothing to do with you. I fear Allah, the Lord of men and jinn!’”
THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE TEACHING THEIR CHILDREN?
Qur’an 59:17 “Both [Jews and Satan] will go into the Fire of Hell, dwelling therein forever. Such is the reward of the Zalimun (disbelievers and polytheists).”
Tabari VI:110 “When Muhammad brought a revelation from Allah canceling what Satan had cast on the tongue of His Prophet, the Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad has repented of [reneged on] what he said concerning the position of our gods with Allah. He has altered [the bargain] and brought something else.’ Those two phrases which Satan had cast on Muhammad’s tongue of were in the mouth of every polytheist. The Messenger said, ‘I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.’”
YES WORKING WELL WITH OUTHER? To get what he wanted and after ??
Tabari VII:85/Ishaq:363 “The Jews of the Qaynuqa replied, ‘Muhammad, do you think that we are like your people? Do not be deluded by the fact that you met a people with no knowledge and you made good use of your opportunity.’”
Bukhari:V4B52N233 “Allah’s Apostle forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying copies of the Qur’an. [He said:] Unbelievers will never understand our signs and revelations.”
BECAUSE IT IS A WARNING TO NOT TRUST THEM??
Tabari VI:110 “When Muhammad brought a revelation from Allah canceling what Satan had cast on the tongue of His Prophet, the Quraysh said, ‘Muhammad has repented of what he said concerning the position of our gods with Allah.”
TO SAY THEY WORSHIP THE SAME GOD??LIE!
Ishaq:569 “When the Muslims fled, the uncouth and rude fellows from Mecca who were with us saw that we were in total disarray. Some of them spoke in a manner that disclosed the hatred they harbored against us. Abu Sufyan [the Meccan chief turned Muslim warrior] had divining arrows with him but another Muslim said, ‘Sorcery is useless today.’ Sufyan replied, ‘Shut up! May Allah smash your mouth!’”
WORKING WITH OTHERS WHO ARE NOT ACCEPTING HIM AS god??
Tabari IX:36/Ishaq:596 “‘Prophet, this group of Ansar have a grudge against you for what you did with the booty and how you divided it among your own people.’ ‘Ansar, what is this talk I hear from you? What is the grudge you harbor? Do you think ill of me? Did I not come to you when you were erring and needy, and then made rich by Allah? Do you hold a grudge against me and are you mentally disturbed because of the worldly things by which I conciliate a people and win them over so that they will embrace Islam and become Muslims?”
WHY DOES OUR FBI NOT KNOW THIS IT IS A PAY OFF FOR FIGHTING AND THEY WERE NOT MULSUMS??
Ishaq:594 “The Apostle gave gifts to those whose hearts were to be won over, notably the chiefs of the army, to win them and through them the people.”
MS13??
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Posted by: ala-sux at May 20, 2005 04:43 PM
THEN THERE IS THIS???
sympathy?
We need to learn and keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
Ecclesiastes5:8-14
Walk in the light
For you once darkness but now you are light in the lord walk as children of light. [for the fruit of the spirit is in goodness, righteousness, and truth]
Find out what is acceptable to the Lord your God and have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of Darkness, But rather EXPOSE them.
12] For it is shameful ever to speak of those things which are done by them in secret [mussis are changing our laws so we can’t. look at the 2 Christians in Pa. and look at the 2 Christians in Australia put in jail for speaking out]
13] But all things that are exposed are made to manifest by the light, For whatever makes manifest is light. [If it is in the light it can been seen and be dealt with]
14] Therefore he says
AWAKE, You who sleep arise from the Dead
And the Lord your God will give you light in the Darkness
6:10] Finally my Brethren be strong in the Lord your God and in the Power of his might
11] Put on the whole armor of God, That you may be able to Stand against the wiles of the Devil
13] Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to with stand in the Evil day and having done all to Stand.
16] Above all, taking the Shield of Faith with which you will be able to quench all the Fiery Darts of the Wicked ones.
REMEMBER
Luke 22:36] Then he said to them,” But now, he who has a moneybag let him take it and like wise a knapsack and he who has no SWORD let him sell his garment and Buy one.
AND THEN THERE IS THIS??
I say it does matter and either you are with us or against us!!!
Luke 11:17 – 11:23 But he know their thoughts said: Every kingdom divided against its self is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falls. If Satan also is divided against himself how will his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out demons by Beelzebub by whom do you sons cast them out?? Therefore They will be your Judges. But I cast out demons with the finger of God surly the Kingdom of God has come upon you. When a Strong Man Fully armed guards his own place, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him taken from him all his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoils. Luke 11:23 He who is not with me is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters.
I would say that the Killer Earthquake and Killer Wave is from the Finger of God Look at who died mostly Mulsums?? Who are Against Us!!
Luke 22:35
And he said to them when I sent you without moneybag, knapsack and sandals did you lake anything: so they said Nothing then he said to them But now who has a moneybag let him take it and likewise a knapsack and he who has no sword let him sell his garments and buy one: 22:27 For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me and he was numbered whit the transgressors for the things concerning me have an end
No matter how we help the mulsums it will not matter look at the Dutch in the 1800s??
The Mulsums are saying the Christians must help the Mulsums? How much money is the Arab countries giving??
Mulsums Looting after Killer Wave??
KNOW THIS WILL PISS OFF CHRIS?? BUT HAVE TO DO IT!!
NOW THIS IS OUT OF THEIR BOOK??
BUT THEY NEVER LEARN??
5:32 Those who would kill a Jew is as if they have killed all MANKIND; And those who save a life is as if they have saved ALL MANKIND
NOW NOW THEY ARE BRING THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION!!!
FREEDOM DON'T COME FOR FREE
Sept. 7, 2004 / 21 Elul, 5764
They're TERRORISTS — not activists or victims
By Daniel Pipes
The media is using at least 20 euphemisms to describe Muslim evildoers. Doing so, obstructs an understanding of the violent threats confronting the civilized world.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com | "I know it when I see it" was the famous response by a U.S. Supreme Court justice to the vexed problem of defining pornography. Terrorism may be no less difficult to define, but the wanton killing of schoolchildren, of mourners at a funeral, or workers at their desks in skyscrapers surely fits the know-it-when-I-see-it definition.
The media, however, generally shies away from the word terrorist, preferring euphemisms. Take the assault that led to the deaths of some 400 people, many of them children, in Beslan, Russia, on Sept. 3. Journalists have been deep into their thesauruses, finding at least twenty euphemisms for terrorists:
THIS WAS DATED WHEN?? AND NOW THAT IT IS NOT JUST ISAERL WHO CRYS BUT THE LEFT IF WE WAIT FOR THEM TO CRY THEY WORLD WILL BE LOST??
JW
December 24, 2004
Christians in Indonesia to avoid churches at Xmas-time
More news from "moderate" Indonesia. From Straits Times, with thanks to Nicolei:
JAKARTA - FEARS of attacks by Islamic militants are forcing some Christians in Indonesia to abandon traditional churches in favour of more discreet and secure venues this Christmas.
With foreign governments warning of holiday terror bombings, thousands of churches in major Indonesian cities will hold services this year in office buildings, hotels and even movie theatres, church leaders say.
WHAT HAPPENED THE NEX DAY??
JW
COULD THIS BE WHY SO MANY MULSUMS HAD TO DIE??
December 24, 2004
Indonesia: Machete gang attacks preacher
Jihad against Christians continues in "moderate" Indonesia. From AAP, with thanks to Twostellas:
A CHRISTIAN preacher has been attacked and badly wounded by a machete-wielding gang on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi despite a massive security operation intended to curb sectarian blood-letting and terror attacks during Christmas.
OH MY??
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/4/94920.shtml
Arrested Mosque Leader in California Leaves U.S.
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, Jan. 4, 2005
LOS ANGELES – An Orange County mosque leader from Egypt who had allegedly given speeches that could be considered to support terrorist organizations has left the
ISLAMIC TERRORIST!!
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/4/94920.shtml
Arrested Mosque Leader in California Leaves U.S.
NewsMax.com Wires
Tuesday, Jan. 4, 2005
LOS ANGELES – An Orange County mosque leader from Egypt who had allegedly given speeches that could be considered to support terrorist organizations has left the
NOW HOW MANY HAD TO DIE TO DECLARE THIS???
Malaysia Arrests Key Figure in Nuclear Trafficking
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, May 28, 2004
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia – A Sri Lankan businessman accused of brokering black market deals for nuclear technology was arrested Friday in Malaysia, government officials said.
NOW HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THEY FLYS WILL FLY AROUND AMERICANS BEFORE THERE WILL BE A HEAVEY PRICE TO BE PAID??
Remember the Killer Earthqake and Killer Wave hit the Areas where the Islamic Terrorist were in control???
"All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke
WHAT IS THE RIGHT PATH YOU ASK???
Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the people of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the people of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease. And for those to whom the Scripture Book has been given, and the believers, there should be no doubt. The unbelievers may say, ‘What does the Lord intend by this?’ The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases, and He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
This can be broken by Yes it is the Army of the people of the Book who he has chosen to Free [USA] the Iraqi people as it says
He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
Yes he has chosen the USA!!
TO FREE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM THE MONSTER saddam [FOUND IN A HOLE DON’T SHOOT I’M A YELLOW COWARD]
And let’s look at another part?
The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases,
Ubl,saddam,zawari,all who Kill and destroy mankind?
There will be no more warnings?
Earthquake in Iran kills 31,000 who harbors ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] son and wife’s??
And now Locus in Egypt
NOW IF THAT IS NOT TELLING YOU ARE ON THE WRONG PATH NOTHING WILL??
Kazakhstan Blast in mine??
Islamic terrorist- killing Iraqis??
Earthquake in Algeria??
The typhoon in Philippines Remember they ran away from the Fight in Iraq??
http://www.onlypunjab.com/fullstory1104-insight-Pink+Locusts+from+North+Africa-status-15-newsID-503.html
Pink Locusts from North Africa Swarm Through Cairo
Publish Date : 11/18/2004 5:09:00 PM Source : Science and Technology News Onlypunjab.com
Swarms of pink locusts swept through the Egyptian capital on Wednesday, evoking the biblical description of the plagues which struck in the time of Moses.
The swarms of millions flew high above tall towers or swooped down onto treelined streets, where scared pedestrians stamped
on them or ran for cover.
The flying insects arrived from neighboring Libya after devouring the countryside in central and western Africa in past months.
YES I SAY ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] is losing and trying to regain control??
What verses did he say in his rambling and to say about the people of the book??
The people of
the book didn’t lose their crops??
Now Earthquake of mulsum Islands of Indonesia?? 9.3 and afterwards mass killer waves that effect many countries?/
Who is coming to the aid of the people But the Red Cross and India to help the people and Israel and the USA and the Western countries!!
215,ooo, mulsum killed in Indonesia alone?? Whole mulsum towns gone?? And Churches still standing??
We are waiting for the mulsums to help other mulsums?? Or with the entire fund raising they do help people instead of making war??
And now more 6.2 earthquakes in Indonesia?? Because they have sent Islamic terrorist to terrorize the victims of the killer wave??
January 11, 2005 Philippines an 4.3 Earthquake ??
Maybe small there because the fight against Islamic Terrorist??
Was ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] family in Indonesia we know they support Islamic Terrorist??
I WOULD SAY IT IS EASY T SEE THE SIGNS!!!
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
GOOD MEN ARE DOING SOME THING THEY HAVE FREED 2 COUNTRIES AND HOW DO THEY REPAY THEM BY ACTING LIKE SAVAGES KILLING EACH OTHER!!!!! OVER A RUMMOR!!!
NOW FROM THE OLD??
REMEMBER Jesus did not come to change the laws of the prophets before him?? You can not understand the New without knowing the old!!!
and the OLD says??
False Prophets!
Deuteronomy chapter 13:1-19
Be careful to observe only that which I enjoin you. Neither add to it nor take away from it.
If there appears among you a prophet or dreamer-diviner and he gives you a sign or a portent. Saying let us follow and worship another god whom you have not experienced even if the sign or portent that he he named to come true, do not heed the words of that prophet or that dream-diviner. For the LORD your God is testing you to see whether you really love the LORD your GOD with all your heart and soul.
Follow none but the LORD your GOD and revere none, but Him, Observe His Commandments alone and head only His Orders Worship none but Him and hold fast to Him. As for that prophet or dreamer-diviner he shall be put to Death, for he urged disloyalty to the LORD your GOD- who freed you from the land of Egypt and who Redeemed you from the house of Bondage to make you stray from the path that the LORD your GOD Commanded you to Follow. Thus you will sweep out the Evil from your mist. If your brother, your own mothers son, or your son or daughter, or wife of your bosom, or your closest friend entices you to secret saying “ come let us worship other gods” whom neither you nor your father have experienced. From among the gods of the peoples around you either near to you or distant, anywhere from one end of the earth to the other. Do not assent or give heed to him, show him no pity or compassion, and do not shield him; but take his life let your hand be the first against him to put him to death and the land of the rest of the people there after, stone him to death for he sought to make you stray from the LORD your GOD who brought you out of the Land of Egypt out of the House of Bondage. This all Israel will hear and be afraid and such Evil things will not be done again in your mist, If you hear it said of one of the towns that the LORD your GOD is giving you to dwell in, that some scoundrels from among you have gone and subverted the inhabitants of their town saying “come let us worship other gods” whom you have not experienced. You shall investigate and inquire and interrogate thoroughly. If it is true, the fact is established – that abhorrent thing was perpetrated in your midst, put the inhabitants of the town to the SWORD and put its cattle to the SWORD. DOOM it and all that is in it to destruction. Gather all it spoil into open square and Burn the town and all it’s spoil as a holocaust to the LORD your GOD and it shall remain everlasting ruin never to be rebuilt, Let nothing that has been DOOMED Stick to your hand in order that the LORD may turn from his Blazing Anger and show Compassion and in His Compassion increase you as He Promised your Fathers on Oath, For you will be heeding the LORD your GOD, Obeying all His commandments which I enjoin upon you this day, doing what is right in the sight of the LORD your GOD.
LOOK TO THAT BOOK AND YOU WILL FIND WHAT YOU LOOK FOR!!!
OH BUT THEY HAD OBEYED THIS LAW mo-ham-od would have been found out and his followers would not plague on the world today?? No wonder mo-ham-od would want all the Jews & Christians dead they had the written word and those who could read it!!!
and then their is this??
I say it does matter and either you are with us or against us!!!
Luke 11:17 – 11:23 But he know their thoughts said: Every kingdom divided against its self is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falls. If Satan also is divided against himself how will his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out demons by Beelzebub by whom do you sons cast them out?? Therefore They will be your Judges. But I cast out demons with the finger of God surly the Kingdom of God has come upon you. When a Strong Man Fully armed guards his own place, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him taken from him all his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoils.
Luke 11:23 He who is not with me is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters.
Luke 22:35
And he said to them when I sent you without moneybag, knapsack and sandals did you lake anything: so they said Nothing then he said to them But now who has a moneybag let him take it and likewise a knapsack and he who has no sword let him sell his garments and buy one: 22:27 For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me and he was numbered whit the transgressors for the things concerning me have an end
NO HE WAS NOT A PEACE NICK!!!!
AND THEN THERE IS THIS??
Ecclesiastes5:8-14
Walk in the light
For you once darkness but now you are light in the lord walk as children of light. [for the fruit of the spirit is in goodness, righteousness, and truth]
Find out what is acceptable to the Lord your God and have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of Darkness, But rather EXPOSE them.
12] For it is shameful ever to speak of those things which are done by them in secret [mussis are changing our laws so we can’t. look at the 2 Christians in Pa. and look at the 2 Christians in Australia put in jail for speaking out]
13] But all things that are exposed are made to manifest by the light, For whatever makes manifest is light. [If it is in the light it can been seen and be dealt with]
14] Therefore he says
AWAKE, You who sleep arise from the Dead
And the Lord your God will give you light in the Darkness
6:10] Finally my Brethren be strong in the Lord your God and in the Power of his might
11] Put on the whole armor of God, That you may be able to Stand against the wiles of the Devil
13] Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to with stand in the Evil day and having done all to Stand.
16] Above all, taking the Shield of Faith with which you will be able to quench all the Fiery Darts of the Wicked ones.
REMEMBER
Luke 22:36] Then he said to them,” But now, he who has a moneybag let him take it and like wise a knapsack and he who has no SWORD let him sell his garment and Buy one.
37] For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished to me and he was numbered with the transgressors”
I AM NOT A PREACHER BUT A READER AND A THINKER!!
NOT A TYPER!!
NOT 5 YEARS OLD AS TOMMY BOY SAYS BUT JUST A WOMAN WHO BELIVES IN GOODNESS AND IN GOD!!!
BUT ALSO BELIEVES IN FREEDOM AND GOODNESS BUT ALSO WILL FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT!!
There are two things here....where we are and where we will go to.
Today, It is important to keep a sense of perspective. If all muslims behaved like your model then there would be unlimited paranoi.
Of course the world is not perfect...but is it all the fault of the muslim...ofcourse not.
The infidel has every right to be comfortable and live in peace...and this must apply all over.
As for tomorrow, the muslim world recognises that Muhammed was a man of immense vision...a man of god....of Allah if you will...the muslim recognises this...and if his "polices" are watered down then ofcourse this will be resisted.
That Islam is going to have more & more influence in the world is true....and I have been saying it for a while here.
I have a vision of a USME (united states of the ME) but I think that Eurabia and Islamic States of America will come about first.
The Muslim will learn and adapt to/in the West first and then bring the global vision of a stable Islam to the ME.
This will be a mix of Sharia/democracy globally as the majority of people on Earth (Muslims) will demand it.
Everything thing else will have a lower priority.
Posted by: Naseem at January 17, 2005 11:56 AM
AND WHERE IS SHE NOW BUT LIVING IN FEAR BECAUSE AS HER HUSBAND GOES TO A MOSQUE IN PAKASTAN AS SHE SAID LIVE IN FEAR NOT KNOWING THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE I WILL STAND UP AND FIGHT AND SHE WILL LIVE IN FEAR UNTILL A GOOD PERSON COMES ALONG??
SO ALL ALONG SHE WAS JUST A BULLY NOW WHO COWARS??
NO!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH,WISDOM,SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
THE REASON THE SUNNIS CLOSED THE MOSQUE IS TO PROVE THEY ARE NOT THE TERRORIST WHO ARE KILLING THE IRAQI PEOPLE??
BUT LOOK AT THE YELLOW FAT BOY eL sader???
NO THE IRAQI PEOPLE WANT FREEDOM WILL THEY HAVE IT!! THE WORLD IS NOT AGAINST THEM JUST THE LIB PRESS