Did you know there is an Islamic Political Party of America, also known as the "Party of Peace?" They are calling for a National Day of Outrage to protest the alleged Qur'an desecration at Gitmo. Thanks to JS:
On Monday, May 23, 2005, the Islamic Political party of America is calling on every Muslim, Man, Woman, in the United States of America to call the Office of the President of the US, Vice President, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, voice your Outrage over the interrogators tormenting Muslim prisoners by the worst act of “blasphemy” ever devised by man against Islam and the Holy Quran...Contrary to White House spin, the allegations of religious desecration at Guantanamo published by Newsweek on May 9, 2005, are common among ex-prisoners and have been widely reported outside the United States. Several former detainees at the Guantanamo and Bagram prisons have reported instances of their handlers sitting or standing on the Koran, throwing or kicking it in toilets, and urinating on it.
Methinks they protesteth too much
The counter on the "party's" website (8,9xx) confirms to me that a) nobody cares about the website, b) Muslims in the main are illiterate or both.
Interesting stuff though - the fact that http://www.islamicfinder.org/ is behind the effort says a lot about it. They do want a parallel society until there are enough members of this sect to take over the whole of the US. Don't you just love them - not!
I bet more Muslims will show up at this rally than did at the anti-terror rally organized by FMAT a week ago.
Isn't outrage the normal state of mind for a Muslim? Along with seething?
Bit of a dog bites man story, this. Now how about National Day of Muslim Chillin'?
When do Americans and the rest of non muslim peoples, get their "DAY OF RAGE". Enough is enough and enough is too much....
I wish I knew duh-swami. I am ready, willing and able to participate anywhere anytime. I have had enough also.
It is time we stand up and be counted. We are Americans...this is OUR country and we cannot let them take it from us.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1405368/posts
During the Muslim occupation of the Church of the Nativity, Muslims used pages from the Bible as toilet paper. They are hypocrites looking for any reason to act on their political agenda...and will use the religion card...just like the founder of their belief system.
The USA should cease all immigration immediately. Then DO NOT let anyone that has come into the country from a country on the terrorist list leave without a thorough background exam. In effect imprison them inside the country and then go door to door until we document every last one of them. That’s another reason why we need a secure border, not only to prevent illegals from entering but to catch the islamic extremists as they try to escape. And as for these protestors, we should demand identification from each one of them and then deny any future public assistance.
PS: Many of these immigrants are disease carriers from the third as well as being ungrateful for our hospitality. Why are we allowing immigration again?
Church and State does not exist in America so all calls and protests should be null and void!
Thanks a lot newsweek.
These poor missguided fools,they live in a Country where they have the right to protest in this way but don't understand the paradoxical irony of the rights of others to hold a large
"Quran Burning" rally or "Toss it in the toilet and win a cupie doll" competition.
I for one witnessed a rally in Ottawa Canada where Muslim youth burned a Bible and spit at RCMP officers trying to keep the peace outside the US embassy just after the Iraq liberation.
Not one Christian attacked them or torched a Mosque,AND not one Islamic Org. or Muslem Leader
condemned the action of these thugs consumed with hate and a bloodlust.
THIS is what our future will be if we stand by and let more and more of these Islamofacists
grow in numbers and continue to get their way,CAIR is not a benevolant group acting inthe best interests of Americans of all backgrounds.
Don't let Ellis Island become like a Saudi Airport where Bibles are taken away from incoming
people and Jews must have a special ID put on documents to identify them by the "Thought Police" that will use Sports arena's for executions like in Afghanistan.
Hmm......
You folks are quite over the top. I realized that there was hate in the US of others who are not like "you". (Glad I'm not like you.) But, you folks, take the cake. Are you the new KKK? Or some other seperatists group? Have you ever stopped to consider that your rightest ideals are no better than those espoused in hate by any other extremists? You would be perfect recruits for our apparently new Theocratic government. I personally can't wait to live THAT kind of life.
(Did you get the sarcasm?)
I feel great shame for the people of my country when the behave and speak and think as you do.
Take off your blinders.
Howabout a day of outrage for 9/11? for Danny Pearl? For Nick Berg? for the Bali mass murder? for the hundreds of Israelis killed by the islamokaze creeps? etc. We have something to rage about.
The biggest outrage is that they are here in the US at all, having a parade of outrage under our 1st amendment, while they want to scrap that very document and substitute sharia - the law of islamic slavery.
A "holy" book implies God's blessing. It is not the God of Christians and Jews that calls for their murder, which the Koran does. God and Allah are two different entities. One is real, one is a hallucination. The followers of the Koran are all hallucinating.
Just checked out their flyer and Party Platform,it reads like NAZI propaganda and accuses all the Muslims in America that don't join them to be sinners and infidels in the eyes of Allah amd will face the judgement for not defending the "Holy Quran" ( not to be confused with the Basic Quran that's carried by suicide bombers in their cars as they slaughter OTHER Muslims) that has greater value than any Human life on Earth ( Watch "Beneath the Planet of the apes" to see my example of worshipping a book and creating false Gods, "Damn you all to hell").
An arrogant poster above sympathizes with those who want to destroy Western society.
Sinequanon-
You have clearly not read the comments on this link, otherwise your silly over-the-top remark about such relatively mild-mannered protests wouldn't have been posted.
Unlike many triumphalist pro-jihad, militant Muslim sites where they post pictures of beheaded and shredded bodies, and crow about the return of the 'Restored Caliphate' and the Islamically prayed-for murder (justified by their 'holy' Koran -SEE: sura 9:5, etc.) of all infidel dogs on Earth, this site may have a few commenters who rage, now and then, but I have yet to see them laugh and congratulate one another over the daily murders carried out by members of their own faith. (The scumbag terrorists IRA was never cheered on except by some nameless drunks in Boston, etc.)
Or maybe you just post this same blurb everywhere, without reading what you are so mock-appalled by first.
If there is a modern incarnation of the KKK, it is Saudi Arabia.
And if there are modern Nazis, they read an older form of Mein Kampf named "The Recitation". (You probably know it better by its Arabic name "The Qu'ran")
Maybe you had better check out this site if you really want to be outraged:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/barney/#
(I hear he chewed up a Koran the other day, but they're keeping it hush-hush.)
No one wants "desecration," but its difficult to meet the criteria for Islam IF EVERYTHING that non-Muslims do is, in their eyes, desecration, yet nothing Muslims do toward Christianity, Judaism or other religions is given the same designation.
Where are the days of outrage by Muslims when other Muslims desecrated the holy sites of other religions? If memory serves, there was a TINY declaration that Islam forbids intolerance or disrespect, hardly a whimper of protest, certainly not a scream of outrage. Thus, for them, respect should only go in one direction, a hypocritical double standard!
Sinequanon-
Pack your bags and get the Hell out. But, leave your guran. We can always use the TP.
Havoc-
You don't really believe that 'Sin-of-qua-nun' is in America, do you? I would guess from the U.K. (maybe ia666 posting under another nomenclature.)
His/her English sounds more like semi-pidgin British. Unless he/she has become one of the U.S.'s recent infil-traitor immigrants under the current administrations Post-9/11 Imbeciles R US open border policy.
In that case, I would concur:
Off to the land of scorpions and morality police, 'sin-of-quahog'!, where you can read you Qu'ran and fulminate over the infidels in bikinis over the empty horizon, who care nothing for your pedophile prophet's psychotic proclamations.
An insolent islamically infected immigrant pulls a one post drive by.
The one-post drive by is the specialty of those with closed minds. Good-bye and good riddance to that one.
How can anyone blaspheme against a lying pagan book on murder and terror. Numbat.
reading the comments it surprises me that so many good christan americans would want to use the old testament and most of the gospels (according to mark,matthew et al) as tp, but go ahead if you wish.like it or not they are all part of the koran.allah is merely the arabic word for god.if looked at from a rational point of view, gods family is dysfunctional- first the 2 younger kids (christans and muslims) try to kill off the older sibling (jews) and having failed at that are now willing to anything to each other to get dads attention. and before it starts i am american can trace my ancestry back to prerevolutionary war, and no longer subscribe to any of the big three religions but am not an atheist either.
reading the comments it surprises me that so many good christan americans would want to use the old testament and most of the gospels (according to mark,matthew et al) as tp, but go ahead if you wish.like it or not they are all part of the koran.allah is merely the arabic word for god
posted by darkwhite
I would advise you to READ the Qur'an for yourself which obviously you have not done. "The Old Testament and most of the Gospels" are most certainly not in the Qur'an and you should do your own research before making such stupid comments. The Qur'an is comprised of some convoluted Biblical scriptures, bastardized and contorted, with no resemblance to their original text or meaning. And duh, we all know that Allah is the Arabic word for God, although the Islamic god is not the God of the Bible. Christians do not worship the god of the Qur'an and you'll realize that when you read it.
You should be ashamed of yourself for defending this death cult, especially when you don't know the first thing about it.
You would be perfect recruits for our apparently new Theocratic government. I personally can't wait to live THAT kind of life.
(Did you get the sarcasm?)
I feel great shame for the people of my country when the behave and speak and think as you do.
Take off your blinders.
Posted by: Sinequanon at May 22, 2005 05:45 PM
The threat of a "theocratic" government comes from the totalitarian muslims you are defending. It's called Sharia.
Save your shame for yourself; your ignorance is beyond mortifying. Maybe you should lock yourself inside a library for a week and wallow in your humiliation for being so dumb. While you're there, read up on Islam.
i have read the koran, in fact sat down with a jewish bible,a king james, and a koran and compared all three. maybe you should get your info from someplace other than a christan website.
When do Americans and the rest of non muslim peoples, get their "DAY OF RAGE". Enough is enough and enough is too much....
Posted by: duh_swami
I wish I knew duh-swami. I am ready, willing and able to participate anywhere anytime. I have had enough also.
Posted by: wwrwtw
It is time we stand up and be counted. We are Americans...this is OUR country and we cannot let them take it from us.
Posted by wwrwtw
Every community should get organised and let these degenerates know that we will not stand for their murderous culture and will not tolerate their Religion of Hate and they are welcome to pack up and leave anytime. We are not Europeans.
have read the koran, in fact sat down with a jewish bible,a king james, and a koran and compared all three. maybe you should get your info from someplace other than a christan website.
Posted by: darkwhite at May 22, 2005 10:52 PM
What "Christian" website are you referring to? I got my "information" about Islam beginning in college, and the ensuing twenty years or so. I have studied Islam meticulously for quite a while and I cannot recall visiting a "Christian" website lately. My resources for studying Islam are primarily Islam's holy canonical texts. Do you have a better suggestion?
Please point me to the section of the Qur'an that contains the Gospels and the Old Testament. I guess the Ten Commandments are in there too?!
sinequanon:
anger is not hatred, it's the natural response to injustice. and the fact that a viewpoint is highly critical of others doesn't mean it's incorrect. consider your own post about us!
like it nor not, every day on this site a very, very good case is made for the sympathies expressed here. so why didn't you FIRST prove that case wrong before leveling your vicious accusations about us? maybe because you couldn't? ;o)
p.s. i don't agree with painting all muslims with the same brush - i have a good friend who is islamic. but isn't it ironic that while supposedly claiming the moral high ground you weren't willing to offer us even that bit of decency? who is painting whom with a broad brush?
Susanp: I think Darkwhite is betting on most Protestant Christians being as ignorant of the Bible as the average Muslim is of the Qur'an (remember, not many of them read Arabic).
Darkwhite, I have at my desk Rodwell's translation of the Qur'an (I can't read Arabic, but sure would be willing to learn if someone paid me to do so), the King James Bible, and the Revised Standard Version of the Bible with apocrypha; plus the Greek New Testament, Hebrew Old Testament, Septuagint (nobody tell Dark White what that is: let's see if he can guess, tease tease), Guoyu Union Version of the Bible (Chinese), German New Testament Redeviertete Texte, and the Version Louis Segond of the New Testament in French. Kindly tell me which chapters of the Qur'an include the Gospels and Old Testament, and let me check if this is so.
Also, we may be kin. My father, God rest him, was "swarthy".
It does not surprise me, this is the behavior of people of the kingdom of darkness. If there is an accusation of abusing the Qur'an, the most dirty book that encourages adultery and terrorism, there will be outrage amongst those who adhere Muhammad and the Qur'an. The Holy Book of God, the Bible, is absolutely abused in Muslim countries. For instance, in the recycling factories in Egypt, you always find a huge number of new Bibles and other Christian books and magazines (they are taken from the post) amongst the rubbish to be recycled for making papers and other stuff. Christians there have never tried to defend the Bible. Of course, they have the right to speak up for not receiving their books that are posted to them. O barbarous Muslims, If Allah was the Almighty God, would he need you to defend his book and religion?!
Abbas
It does not surprise me, this is the behavior of people of the kingdom of darkness. If there is an accusation of abusing the Qur'an, the most dirty book that encourages adultery and terrorism, there will be outrage amongst those who adhere Muhammad and the Qur'an. The Holy Book of God, the Bible, is absolutely abused in Muslim countries. For instance, in the recycling factories in Egypt, you always find a huge number of new Bibles and other Christian books and magazines (they are taken from the post) amongst the rubbish to be recycled for making papers and other stuff. Christians there have never tried to defend the Bible. Of course, they have the right to speak up for not receiving their books that are posted to them. O barbarous Muslims, If Allah was the Almighty God, would he need you to defend his book and religion?!
Abbas
It does not surprise me, this is the behavior of people of the kingdom of darkness. If there is an accusation of abusing the Qur'an, the most dirty book that encourages adultery and terrorism, there will be outrage amongst those who adhere Muhammad and the Qur'an. The Holy Book of God, the Bible, is absolutely abused in Muslim countries. For instance, in the recycling factories in Egypt, you always find a huge number of new Bibles and other Christian books and magazines (they are taken from the post) amongst the rubbish to be recycled for making papers and other stuff. Christians there have never tried to defend the Bible. Of course, they have the right to speak up for not receiving their books that are posted to them. O barbarous Muslims, If Allah was the Almighty God, would he need you to defend his book and religion?!
Abbas
Robert,
What does it take to ban Islam as a seditious ideology?
This fetishing of the Queeran is the inverse of book burning. Totally crazy. But, what do you expect?
Dark White, are you forgetting that Muhammad the social deviant invented Islam centuries after the Christians and Jews were established?
You should stop trying to place Islam on equal footing with Chrisitanity and Judaism, it's way down the ladder and deserves not to be treated equally.
Abby
During the Muslim occupation of the Church of the Nativity,Muslims used pages from the Bible as toilet paper.
Here you dont understand muslims
They do not use toilet paper,this why it is an offence to offer your left hand to a muslim in a hand shake
They where just crapping on the bible,and washing there hands after.
i have read the koran, in fact sat down with a jewish bible,a king james, and a koran and compared all three. maybe you should get your info from someplace other than a christan website.
Posted by: darkwhite
darkwhite? Why not go directly to the sources?
Lets compare:
The Works of Christ:
Mat 5:44 I [Jesus] say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
1Th 5:15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good.
Rom 13:9 Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 5:44 Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
The works of Muhammad:
009.005 fight and slay the Pagans ''''wherever'''' ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.
033.061 They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy). Cursed: wherever they are found they shall be seized and murdered, a (horrible) murdering
009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight [jihad], smite at their necks. [Behead them!]
005.033 THE PUNISHMENT of those who '''wage war''' against Allah and His Messenger IS: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet.
033.050 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated from Makka with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers at large
033.051 Thou mayest defer the turn of any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose turn thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them
Pay close attention to the following:
033.052 It is not lawful for thee to marry more women after this, nor to change them for other wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess as handmaidens
They are permitted to trade back and forth the ones they took as prisoners of war [after killing their men] - as though they are merchandise just so they can have their way with them. [''justifiable'' mass rape. This is Islam]
The non-Muslim men are to be slaughtered [until the land is thoroughly subdued 008.067 ] and their wives and daughters raped by Muslim men - as they please.
See the difference? between the two?
1Jo 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil.
The allah of the Koran creates murderers and rapists.
What is so 'Holy' about that?
Muslims used pages from the Bible as toilet paper.
They use pages from a book that demands peace between all humans with the utmost disrespect - and yet - hold another book up high - that demands acts that are truly barbaric.
a book that creates monsters who think nothing of killing children - while terrorizing them first.
Anyone - after being made aware of these facts - 'allah has spoken' - for himself - who still holds on to such a spirit - is no better than that spirit - a rapist, liar, theif and murderer.
The tree is known by its own fruit.
If you think that is where happiness is? then there is no hope for you.