Jihad Watch billboard in Los Angeles

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Photos courtesy of Jihad Watch reader Bar.

For details about the Jihad Watch billboard project, see here.

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  1. says

    Please updaet all of us in one week with the number of hits to your site. I have a feeling it is going to grow. Great sign.

    Moose

  2. says

    If God is on our side (and I believe he is,) then let this be another “sign” to remind us all, that if we don’t get better informed and let the rest know about the truth, then maybe it really will be end of the world as we know it. Great sign, and keep up the good work! Never Fear! We will prevail!

  3. says

    Millions of petrodollars are being spent in the furtherance of the goals of Islam — world takeover and enslavement of the rest of us. it’s heartening to know that FINALLY someone with deep pockets is assisting you to publicize this menace.

    God be with you as we know that such publicity will bring visceral reaction and perhaps retaliation in a violent manner that some Europeans have recently experienced.

  4. says

    Of course most people who travel down the very busy Sunset strip are going to ask the question; What is dhimmitude? And that is a good thing since the word is not known to most people, however everybody pretty much knows what the word jihad means now or am I being to overconfident on that word?

    No doubt the local CAIR group and other muslim groups in the area will be screaming, antisemitism,racism, inciting hatred against muslims Etc. and someone will try to get up on the sign and deface it.

    The interesting part is that the local media may want to do a story on what does it mean? this word dhimmitude and that could lead to some great discussions. UCLA is a few miles west of where the sign is placed. Those of you who live in the area should watch, or incourage the media to do a story on the sign and its meanings.

    The sign is on the north side of Sunset Blvd. and is facing west.

  5. says

    I have a feeling that folks driving past, might think that Dhimmitude is the name of a movie, starring Eurabia and Bat Ye’or.

    No matter, as long as they google in Jihadwatch.org. and find this site.

  6. says

    The interesting side of this sign with its provocative word “Dhimmitude” is that if muslims raise cane about it, people are going to ask the question ; why are they getting so upset about that word? No doubt it could lead to some interesting media, and local discussions in the area.

  7. says

    I don’t like the billboard. I just don’t think it conveys the message correctlty.

    Next time, Robert, have a submission contest here. I’m sure it would attract serious talent. Winner gets autographed copies of your books.

  8. says

    Voltaire:

    “I have a feeling that folks driving past, might think that Dhimmitude is the name of a movie, starring Eurabia and Bat Ye’or.”

    That’s good and worth a morning smile.

  9. says

    Mr. Spencer & team,

    Awright!

    Good touch with the oil well image!

    That will get the attention of the L.A.-ers, since those very things are around salted around that city at the oddest places.

    But, next time, you do have to add a belly dancer somewhere in it, also, because it is Hollywood, and they are geared toward certain visual stimuli.

    But as long as they check out the web site address, more power to you.

  10. says

    Religionofpeacemyarse;

    You should see it if you are driving east on Sunset Blvd. and it will be on the left side and behind what appears to be an ARCO station. It appears to be set back possibly 50 or more yards off the Blvd.

  11. says

    Yea! Score one for our side. This should start a war of words, and that is good. Hopefully the media will ask some interesting questions, maybe an interview or two for Robert?

  12. says

    That was fun acting like a tourist. Standing on Sunset Blvd and taking pictures of that billboard sure got the attention of at least 20 people that where close to me….

    Voltaire: LOL!

    Religionofpeacemyarse : It is just west of Fairfax and like Mackie stated it is about 150 +/- feet north of Sunset Blvd., behind the Arco gas station directly across the street from Rite-Aid.

  13. says

    Voltaire…is right…A lot of people will think it’s a movie ad. Thats good because they will go to JW to find out where it is playing…come to think about it, “Dhimmitude”, would make a great movie title…

  14. says

    ShyGuy:

    The benefactor who paid for the billboard wanted it to feature those words.

    If you would like to put up a billboard with a different message, send the money to cover it and I will get it put up!

    Cordially
    Robert Spencer

  15. says

    I get your drift, Robert. I wasn’t aware of the limitations. Anyway, my wishes are for bigger and better next time.

    As a token gesture, I’ll put my money where my mouth is and buy some of your (unautographed) books over at Amazon. :)

  16. says

    ShyGuy:

    I confess to having been tempted in bookstores to autograph my books on the shelves, but I have never done so.

    Send ’em over and I’ll scribble in them!

    Cordially
    Robert

  17. says

    It must look glorious at night with those 2 lights shining on it. The more I look at it the more I like it.

    Big Sleep says the grapic is an an “oil well” but it looks like a Forest Ranger lookout stand to me, anybody know which?

  18. says

    Great to see this. ‘Dhimmitude’ will very shortly enter mainstream discourse in the way ‘jihad’ has done. And then – cue protestations by Islamapologists that ‘right-wingers’ deliberately misunderstand its true nature, which was actually benign, inclusive and necessary to maintain order.

  19. says

    Robert:

    How much does it cost, approximately, to advertise on a billboard like that (I know it would vary with the advertising company, the location and the time for which you rent it but can you give me a ballpark figure)?

    Thanks in advance.

  20. says

    These are the 2 main talk show programs that can be accessed live on the web in Los Angeles . The subject that has been getting a lot of talk in LA is a provocative sign that was put up by a Mexican radio station that seems to give the impression that California still should belong to Mexico. It was discussed again on KABC Radio AM 790 this morning again. KABC Radio is the first one, and the 2nd one is KFI radio AM 640 which will feature Rush at 9:00 Am Pacific time. KABC may deal with local issues at that time if anyone wants to ask the station about this interesting sign that has been put up on Sunset Blvd. — I.E. what does it mean ?— you know the drill to get some discussion going on it — Where is that movie playing ? what is Dhimmitude ? Etc.

    http://rope.kabc.com/lcplayer/index.html

    http://cc.liquidviewer.com/LosAngeles/KFI/playerframe.php?fname=http://ccdig.liquidviewer.com/kfi

  21. says

    How do you pronounce dhimmitude? I’ve heard it’s with a “z” like “zimmitude.” Would someone please help with this?

  22. says

    Mentat:

    I emailed Robert on the specifics of this billboard. It’s expensive on Sunset Blvd (five figures), and the contract is for one month.

    What we need are Burma Shave signs everywhere! We need to have a presence with a message!

    I’m printing up some business cards that say:

    Dhimmitude? You won’t like it!
    Jihadwatch.com

    I’m going to put them everywhere I go – Restaurants, stores, banks, bookstores, you name it!

    Business cards are cheap and can send the message in a subtle way.

  23. says

    Mentat,

    It does vary widely depending on the location. Good locations go from $10,000 to $20,000.

    So I appreciate the donations that have been coming in and they will be put to good use for Jihad Watch, but we are very far from having enough for another billboard.

    Cordially,
    Robert Spencer

  24. says

    Substitute Burma Shave for JihadWatch.com and you have it.

    Place the signs about 250 feet apart next to the roadway for drivers to read on long stretches of boring roadway. Most people enjoyed reading the Burma Shave signs.

    Anyone here remember them?

  25. says

    It’s a good thing that Dougie Hooper wears the sort of condom cap with the recepticle end…..It must be ready to POP!

    Let’s try to figure the wording of the headline at the terrorist site cair-net.org…..

    How about “muslims outraged at islamophobic billboard”…

    or “muslims decry LA billboard” (I love that “decry”….sounds like Wookie noises!

    or “prominant civil rights group demand that LA have offensive sign removed”…..

    GoodKarma

  26. says

    Robert,

    Great billboard. Would the anonymous benefactor be willing to pay for bumper stickers that look like the bulletin board?

  27. says

    What a great idea. As a designer I am overcome by the urge to add my 2¢ worth.
    Dhimmitude is an awfully long and unfamiliar word to try to read while driving by. I’d want to back it up with some flyers at street level and / or an ad in the paper featuring the words so people who saw it but had reading comprehension problems due to the situation get another exposure to it.
    I couldn’t tell that was an oil well either. There must be a more classic archetypal oil well image out there. What about using a gas pump nozzle?
    The flames must be meant to lend urgency and a sense of threat but I think the composition could have more punch.
    I’d look for a way to fit on “What is Eurabia?” “Who is Bat Ye’or?” so viewers have a little more context. Maybe work in the flags of France, Britain and Germany, maybe those can be threatened by the flames of dhimmitude. Instead of sand, a background of oppressed masses might convey that this is a vast human threat.
    Well I could let this creative process go on longer but since this is how I earn my living and lunch time is over, I have to get back at it.
    Nevertheless, having this billboard – in LA! – is a big, big deal! We totally need one in Jersey and Chicago. What a great idea.

  28. says

    Substitute Burma Shave for JihadWatch.com and you have it.

    Place the signs about 250 feet apart next to the roadway for drivers to read on long stretches of boring roadway. Most people enjoyed reading the Burma Shave signs.

    Anyone here remember them?

    Posted by: BillR at May 3, 2005 01:01 PM

    Oh, yeah! And they were a lot of fun!

    I think that signs like that along highways would be very useful, and if they can be placed on private property along busy corridors such as I-5 or I-95 etc., they could actually get a lot of attention for just the price of the signs.

    And while we’re at it, don’t forget Hugh’s suggestion of leaving little “signs” around. I think he was talking about business-card sized notices with informative website addresses on them.

    You can also make somewhat larger ones, maybe postcard sized, in fluorescent colors, and leave them around on park benches, bus seats, store counters, restaurant tables, etc.

    Thanks to the Benefactor, Robert! Someone asked that you give us an update of any effect the billboard might have on the number of hits to JW; please do that!

    We’re sending money.

  29. says

    CAIR can’t do anything in the courts because the Billboard can be construed to be simply promoting Bat Ye’or’s books. Capitalism rules in America rules and this Billboard is legitimate advertising.

    Look for bottom of the barrel intimidation tactics from CAIR (ala National Review Magazine).

    Unless there is a substantial numbers of muslims working in the Billboard industry or advertising on Billboards I don’t see how CAIR will be successful in this case. Tell CAIR to shove it.

  30. says

    BillR~ I was surprised to see Burma-shave signs Still up on one highway in the mountains of Northern PA a few years back, when I was spending a lot of time with one of the local bands of the Delaware Indians. They were originals, too.

  31. says

    So has anyone sent this to the papers yet? if it’s worded negatively, it might get some exposure..

    “A billboard on Sunset Blvd has began drawing protests today…”

  32. says

    dwntmpo:

    Excellent Idea!
    Draw attention to the billboard through free advertising!

    Can anyone call say the LA Times and object?

  33. says

    I hope Ridley Scott drives by & reads it! Kingdom of Heaven gives the Muslims an historically inaccurate, cleaned-up version of their part in the Crusades…had Scott been threatened by Muslims while filming?

  34. says

    When the protests begin; watch for dhimmis to do all the apologizing, and appeasing for the muslims, left wing celebrities will come to their defence and demand that the sign be removed, they will yell; not in my back yard, and who is this hate monger and Islamofacist who dares to put up a sign like this to the entrance of Beverly Hills. watch for Suzan Sarandon, and Babs to protest the sign. Now of couse most of them will have receive instruction as to what dhimmitude means, 2nd place they probably won’t bother to try and find out.

  35. says

    Daughter of Patriots:

    Noting the funding of the Ed Said Chair of Middle Eastern Studies at Columbia, I’d say bribed by them, more likely.

  36. says

    Great Billboard! It’s got visual punch, “Who’s next?” provokes uncertainty, then it stimulates questions in the mind of the viewer, (What is dhimmitude? Where is Eurabia? Who is Bat Y’or?), and finally it gives a place where you can find answers… jihadwatch.org

    One question, Robert, what is the structure on the right side, an oil rig, or a watch tower?

  37. says

    Daughter of Patriots:

    Noting the funding of the Ed Said Chair of Middle Eastern Studies at Columbia, I’d say bribed by them, more likely.

  38. says

    Moose: absolutely there should be site hits!

    Also, Robert, I realize this is crass, but have you considered advertising space, a la LGF? Even authors themselves would probably pay for the opportunity, couldn’t be anything but a gigantic boon for them.

    Geoff

  39. says

    Robert, have you considered advertising here? LGF does it; can’t be anything but a huge boon really.

    Geoff

  40. says

    Further contemplation on the Billboard and the reaction of ACLU clones also known as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) leads me to predict that CAIR will simply choose to let the 30 days expire and take a wait and see approach, hoping against hope that all this blows over.

    By the way, in case anyone does not know, CAIR is to Muslims what the ACLU is to criminals. CAIR is an arm of Islam in the US that rears its ugly head whenever they see the true face of Islam is attempting to be shown to the public.

    What Islamic immigrants fear most when they migrate to Western lands is public awareness. The awareness of the host countries native population to know and understand what Islam truly is. Due to the ignorance, gullibility and naiveté of their host Nations of who and what these people stand for, Muslims are making changes, as we speak, to the historical and cultural traditions of these countries, including our own here in the US. This is also CAIRs biggest concern, Public Awareness.

    The Billboard is an attempt to increase awareness and understanding of the real motivation of Muslims including the global goal of Islam along with the tactics of Jihad to institute Sharia law. “Dhimmis” are the non-Muslims who have been conquered through war or simply outnumbered through immigration and their insane birth rates. It’s best to nip this in the bud and send them all packing.

  41. says

    Further contemplation on the Billboard and the reaction of ACLU clones also known as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) leads me to predict that CAIR will simply choose to let the 30 days expire and take a wait and see approach, hoping against hope that all this blows over.

    By the way, in case anyone does not know, CAIR is to Muslims what the ACLU is to criminals. CAIR is an arm of Islam in the US that rears its ugly head whenever they see the true face of Islam is attempting to be shown to the public.

    What Islamic immigrants fear most when they migrate to Western lands is public awareness. The awareness of the host countries native population to know and understand what Islam truly is. Due to the ignorance, gullibility and naiveté of their host Nations of who and what these people stand for, Muslims are making changes, as we speak, to the historical and cultural traditions of these countries, including our own here in the US. This is also CAIRs biggest concern, Public Awareness.

    The Billboard is an attempt to increase awareness and understanding of the real motivation of Muslims including the global goal of Islam along with the tactics of Jihad to institute Sharia law. “Dhimmis” are the non-Muslims who have been conquered through war or simply outnumbered through immigration and their insane birth rates. It’s best to nip this in the bud and send them all packing.

  42. says

    greetings from the people’s republic of austin!great job! jihadwatch.org is now bookmarked and please keep up the good work.

  43. says

    “How do you pronounce dhimmitude? I’ve heard it’s with a “z” like “zimmitude.” Would someone please help with this?”
    Posted by: nuh at May 3, 2005 12:18 PM

    The word in Arabic is ذمّي

    which are the letters; Thaa, (double) Meem & Yaa.

    There are a few ‘Thaa’ (read as ‘th’) letters in the Arabic alphabet, this one being the ‘heaviest’ sounding one and hence pronounced like ‘D’ but when transliterated a ‘h’ is put after as it is not a ‘clean’ D sound .

    So anyway,’Dhimmi’ is the correct pronounciation.

    Regards,
    Kc

  44. says

    I also read years ago about Muslim men marrying “zhimmis” but never, ever letting Muslim women marry them. I think it was at http://www.secularislam.org

    **************************************

    More whining crap about the ACLU from Cross (“-bearer”? “-Burner”?)… alas. The ACLU helps everyone, whether left- or right-wing. That’s why they help the NRA, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Rush Limbaugh, Muslims, Nambla, the Nazis, etc. But, whatever floats your boat; the important thing is for you to let everyone know what YOU THINK.

    Too bad that–statistically speaking at least, given the locale–waaay more than half of the people that see the billboard, have a computer, and actually know how to type in a URL will be liberal. Hopefully when they visit this site they will be able to sift through the anti-liberal spew and get to the heart of the matter, to wit: Islam threatens all of us.

  45. says

    Keith,

    You dispassionate, evenhanded observer!

    Speaking of “anti-liberal spew,” here’s the latest:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006009.php

    To Gary, Keith, Giaour, etc.:

    Please cut it out. As I have said many times, the struggle against jihad is not a conservative or liberal issue, it is a human rights issue. Those who accuse me of bias obviously don’t read the site, cf. the article linked above. I am not trying to play party politics here, but to rally the non-Muslim world to defend itself against a threat to its survival. I wish you guys would stop playing party politics as well.

    Cordially
    Robert Spencer

  46. says

    *blink* I haven’t said a word to kj in days. However, for your sake I shall drop his claim (which I had quoted) that news about the acadhimmis indoctrinating our upcoming generations in the ‘religion of peace’ is ‘blather.’

    Apologies to all of you.

  47. says

    To an Englishwoman these suggested places all sound so evocative.
    Sunset Strip (I do remember 77 Sunset strip, I think we got it late),
    the New Jersey Turnpike (“Counting the cars on the New Jersey Turnpike They’ve all gone to look for America”, still true 40 years on)

    Luvverley to see so many positive contributions. All the best.

  48. says

    I shamelessly invited donations at LGF. If everyone who shares our interest in getting the word out would give just a little, we would have the beginnings of another billboard.

  49. says

    kc England Thanks for the clarification. Dhimmitude is pronounced with a “d” and not a “z”/ want to make sure, being the good infidel that I am.

    Also, Robert is correct in restating that this whole enterprise of exposing Islam is not a republican/democrat or liberal/conservative issue, but a human rights issue, and about the future of free societies. Whenever I bring up to friends or on blogs Jihadwatch, or Ali Sina, or when I criticize Islam, I’m branded as a Christian right-winger. Funny thing, I’m not religious at all. I used to be a liberal until I realized that much of what I believed in concerning freedom of speech, religion, women’s rights, etc… didn’t matter to my left comrades when it came to Islam. They didn’t care because you can’t criticize any religion(unless Christianity, of course) and you can’t agree with Bush on anything! It just boggles the mind. (I’m what you call a Christopher Hitchens refugee) Plus, I used to be one who defended Islam, before becoming enlightened to it with Websites such as this. I guess what I’m saying is that we can’t make this a partisan issue, otherwise people like CAIR will continue to divide and conquor.

  50. says

    This billboard is a small beginning when compared to the propaganda/dawa money that the Saudis are pumping into the jihad, while being aided by the MSM free of charge.

    BTW, mark the skyline. It wouldnt surprise me if some RoPer decided to change that bit of LA skyline.

  51. says

    To my Liberal friend and comrade,

    The comparison of the ACLU to CAIR was just that, a comparison. I have faith in the readers that they have enough sense to realize that it was meant figuratively and not literally.

    May I ask that you stop shooting from the hip and conducting hit and run drive bys? Thanks for your cooperation.

  52. says

    If Jay Leno’s ‘walkabouts’ are any indication of the brainpower on the streets of L.A., then most denizens won’t know what ‘Dhimmitude’ means. BUT THE MUSLIMS IN TOWN WILL! That means if you hear a lot of squealing from that quarter (since the sign itself gives no hint of what it’s about) you KNOW you’re hearing the usual ‘knee-jerk’ defence from the Muslims. But as I say, since the ad itself says nothing about Islam, there’s no way they can really complain that it’s racist…but they will…mark my words! At THAT POINT we’ve got ’em because something can’t be ‘racist’ by implication in their definition, unless they have a guilty conscience and know why ‘Dhimmitude’ is a bad thing.

  53. says

    foreign devil:

    You have a point. Dhimmitude is slavery, and if some group objected to a billboard that procalimed that slavery was evil, we will know exactly where that group stands.

    The only fly in the ointment is that most people do not know (or probably care), what dhimmitude is.

  54. says

    Just to clarify: the “tower” on the sign is an oil derrick, not an oil well. It houses the tools and pipes used to drill an oil well.

    BTW, great sign!

  55. says

    I’ll buy the oil derrick explanation of what the picture actually is but…

    Because of the flames on the word Dhimmitude the most logical interpretation is that the artists Intent was for it to be a Watch Tower and that they didn’t have an actual watch tower graphic so they went with what they had. Also,it makes sense since the message seems to be saying that we should be vigilant and to watch out for the encroaching flames of dhimmitude.

    Is there anyway to get official clarity on this?

    Oh Jeez , I ever going to get my life back…I’m a biotch for Jwatch

  56. says

    Like all others here, I wish to express my thanks to our friend for putting up the billboard for us in L.A. We are making progress toward real power in our communities, and this giant coup on our behalf is one more signpost on the road, as it were, that we are growing and maturing as a political and social movement.

    Can we use the billboard to spring into further actions? I argue that we can copy it as hand-outs as is, as it mysteriously is, and pass them out to those in line-ups for bin Laden’s version of the Crusades. Words with mystery take on significant meaning and mystique, become popular in the subcultures of cities, and eventually make their ways into the maistream of public discourse. I hope we can use the mystery of the word, its exotica and esoterica, to create a knowingness among the leaders of language, of young people who will be happy to use a word like this, to soak it up, to pass it around to friends, to be knowers of secrets. Dhimmitude will come into the language by the backdoor, and there’s no stopping it if we hit the lined movie-goers. The hand-out is ready-made. The billboard is a gift from our friend. The movie is a gift from Hollywood. Together we have a gift from Heaven.

  57. says

    Like all others here, I wish to express my thanks to our friend for putting up the billboard for us in L.A. We are making progress toward real power in our communities, and this giant coup on our behalf is one more signpost on the road, as it were, that we are growing and maturing as a political and social movement.

    Can we use the billboard to spring into further actions? I argue that we can copy it as hand-outs as is, as it mysteriously is, and pass them out to those in line-ups for bin Laden’s version of the Crusades. Words with mystery take on significant meaning and mystique, become popular in the subcultures of cities, and eventually make their ways into the maistream of public discourse. I hope we can use the mystery of the word, its exotica and esoterica, to create a knowingness among the leaders of language, of young people who will be happy to use a word like this, to soak it up, to pass it around to friends, to be knowers of secrets. Dhimmitude will come into the language by the backdoor, and there’s no stopping it if we hit the lined movie-goers. The hand-out is ready-made. The billboard is a gift from our friend. The movie is a gift from Hollywood. Together we have a gift from Heaven.

  58. says

    Carolyn2,i thought about soliciting some donation at the LGF site,but their registration window is always closed…
    Don`t they accept new registrants anymore??!
    The sign is a great start.
    The fact that few people know the meaning of “dhimmitude,eurabia or bat ye`or” could go either way.
    I still think that a JW,24/7 tv channel would be the best,i realize it would imply great financing and opposition(CAIR,MSM),so for the time being,the sign should make some waives.

  59. says

    “Dhimmitude” evokes the word “dude”. Lots of people are going to asking what dhimmitude means. Very nice billboard and many thanks to the generous donor who made it possible.

    Many will ask what Jihad and JihadWatch means

  60. says

    adela, Charles has open registration every so often. With all the folks that read LGF and everyone that reads and enjoys JW/DW, we should get a lot of contributions…

  61. says

    Good suggestion, Mackie.

    Yesterday, I e-mailed two popular LA radio talk shows, one on KFI and the other on KABC about the Dhimmitude Billboard. Today, I even zipped an e-mail to Rush Limbaugh about the billboard. I don’t know if it will do any good, but here’s hoping it will raise awareness.

  62. says

    CAIR sucks and so does the ACLU. I hate the ACLU and I hate CAIR. The ACLU was started by a communist sympathizer. CAIR has Hooper. It sounds like kj is the baby whining. The ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) is a friend to America and freedom loving people. The ACLU sticks up for adults who rape children and all other sorts of perversions.

  63. says

    Trying the Burma shave thing one more time.

    Muslim masters
    Are no fun
    When you’re a Kafir
    Then you’re scum!
    Dhimmitude

    OR….

    Goodbye to hands
    Goodbye to head
    When you’re a Kafir
    You’re next to dead
    Dhimmitude

  64. says

    As a Muslim I look forward to people asking me about Islam. I know many people reverted after 9/11 after Islam and Muslims were given publicity. The JihadWatch site will just lead to other sites for a more “apologetic” perspective and maybe, just maybe, they will stumble upon the better websites about Islam who teach about the example of the Prophet Muhammed (saw) and his pious predecesors. If one person to turned towards the Quran and the Sunnah , those who follow the true path, it would be a benefit for them.

  65. says

    brownwonder, Is this the prophet you were talking about?

    Qur’an 5:33 “The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides…their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly.”
    Tabari VIII:122/Ishaq:515 “The Prophet gave orders concerning Kinanah to Zubayr, saying, “Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah’s chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him.”
    Bukhari:V4B54N487 “The Prophet said, “The Hell Fire is 69 times hotter than ordinary worldly fires.’ So someone said, “Allah’s Apostle, wouldn’t this ordinary fire have been sufficient to torture the unbelievers?'”
    Bukhari:V4B52N260 “Ali burnt some [former Muslims alive] and this news reached Ibn Abbas, who said, “Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, “Don’t punish with Allah’s Punishment.” No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, “If a Muslim discards his Islamic religion, kill him.”‘”
    Qur’an 48:27 “If the Muslims had not been there, We would have punished the unbelievers with a grievous torture.”
    Qur’an 9:5 “When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”
    Ishaq:550 “The Muslims met them with their swords. They cut through many arms and skulls. Only confused cries and groans could be heard over our battle roars and snarling.”
    Qur’an 5:37 “The [Christian] disbelievers will long to get out of the Fire, but never will they get out there from; and theirs will be an enduring torture.”
    Tabari IX:6 “The chief sheep tender sent out spies to obtain intelligence. But they came back with their joints dislocated. When he asked what had happened, they said, “We saw white men on black horses. Before we could resist, we were struck as you see us now.”
    Ishaq:595 “The Apostle said, “Get him away from me and cut off his tongue.””
    Ishaq:312 “Umar said to the Apostle, “Let me pull out Suhayl’s two front teeth. That way his tongue will stick out and he will never be able to speak against you again.'”
    Ishaq:316 “Following Badr, Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive.”
    Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: “I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”
    Tabari VII:133/Ishaq:387 “When Muhammad saw Hamzah he said, “If Allah gives me victory over the Quraysh at any time, I shall mutilate thirty of their men!’ When the Muslims saw the rage of the Prophet they said, “By Allah, if we are victorious over them, we shall mutilate them in a way which no Arab has ever mutilated anybody.”
    Tabari VIII:96 “A raiding party led by Zayd set out against Umm in Ramadan. During it, Umm suffered a cruel death. Zyad tied her legs with rope and then tied her between two camels until they split her in two. She was a very old woman. Then they brought Umm’s daughter and Abdallah to the Messenger. Umm’s daughter belonged to Salamah who had captured her. Muhammad asked Salamah for her, and Salamah gave her to him.” ]

  66. says

    Folks visiting this site for the first time should read and think carefully about the remark above: that many people converted or ‘reverted’ (Muslims believe that all human being are born Muslim) after 9/11. Frequent readers of this site are familiar with this kind of thinking: this is Islamic triumphalism. 9/11 is seen as a triumph for Islam because the act of mass murder lead to ‘reversion’, people returning to Allah; it is an act to be celebrated, one more mysterious event in God’s plan for the eventual domination of Islam.

    Think about what kind of mentality is required for ideas like this: the murders of thousands of innocent people has been willed by God for the victory of God, that is, the surrender of humanity to the prophet.

    What kind of prophet is this? Read the Qur’an. Read what it says about non-believers. Read some hadiths and the sira, accounts of Muhammad’s life. Read about his copulation with a nine year old girl, whom he married at six. The killing. The plunder. The conquests. The utter brutality. And remember: you are a non-believer, an Infidel, who, by virtue of the Qur’an, is being given a chance to surrender to God. If you do not, you are damned. Read the constant threats and condemnations of non-believers. Read Suras (Chapters) 8 and 9. What do you think these texts do to the minds of those who accept the Qur’an? And the Qur’an does not permit lukewarm acceptance.

    Islam means surrender, not peace. But surrender to what? Think about that and what it means for you, the Infidel, the kafir, the one who is unclean.

    Our poor friend above gloats in the wonderous consequences of 9/11. Yes, indeed, the wonderous consequences. Wake up friends. And realize completely who these people are, these people who embrace this belief system; a belief system that wants you in one way or another.

  67. says

    Dilophos-

    The “Who’s Next?” of the billboard refers to Europe as it is now becoming the subject province of Islam, called by author Bat Ye’or: “Eurabia”.

    Being the first victim of modern Koranic imperialism, the sign then wonders, after the fall of Europe: “Who’s Next?”.

    Now if Pete Townsend of ‘The Who’ will only donate the song of the same title for use by JW/DW…

  68. says

    What Islam is all about in practice:

    `Non-Malays living in the vicinity of mosques in Kuala Lumpur hear this call to arms against the non-Muslims through high-pitches megaphones often enough to be dismissed as untrue. I suspect Dr Yusof is annoyed a Muslim has spilled the beans; if a non-Muslim had done so, he could be ignored. Perhaps Dr Yusof should also tell us if Christmas carols mentioning Jesus should be banned at a Christmas party organised by the government. Was there a ban? Of course there was. Father OC Lim, who questioned it, is too senior in the Roman Catholic Church, and not a high Muslim cleric, to shoot his mouth off.`
    AND
    `Dato’ Seri Najib kicked the ball first to insist to insist none should openly debate if Muslims could slander the followers of other religions,`
    http://www.mggpillai.com/article.php3?sid=2049

    That in a supposedly `moderate muslim` country where Dato’ Seri Najib is the Deputy Prime Minister.
    So caveat emptor to those who buy the `peace` bullshit.

  69. says

    A recent translation of the “call to prayer” that the poor folk outside of detroit must now listen to is rather enlightening, and should be heeded. The translation is literal, and as such, some content is lost in the translastion. Another odd thing is that the actual tune translates very closely to the old “Oscar Meyer Balogna” song. And it goes something like this……

    and a 1 and a 2…..

    “Our moon god has a first name,
    it’s a-l-l-a-h…..
    our moon god has no 2nd name,
    it’s [visual of practictioners of the RoP sawing a head off a non-believer] A-L-L-A-H……
    We kill kafir most every-day,
    and if you ask to whom we pray…………
    To kill kafir is a-o-k,
    says a-l-l-a-h, oy vey”

    If anybody cares to record it, or make a video, they are free to use the translation.

    GoodKarma

  70. says

    In the war of ideas, Dhimmitude is Islam’s achilles heal, especially in the West. All the talk of peace and tolerance flies right out the window in the face of this human rights atrocity.

    Thanks to Robert and the wonderful Benefactor for helping spread the word. Now let’s do our part and spread the word in our communities as well.

  71. says

    GoodKarma:

    LOL for the first post (my, what talent!) and kudos for the philosophical perspicacity of the second.

    It’s still crap.

  72. says

    Brownwonder:

    Remember, Brownwonder, everything is pre-destined by Allah. If you resent what Allah has destined, you are an apostate. You will burn in hell.

    If you do not accept fate, if you complain about what Allah most high has destined, you are committing an enormity. You must accept what Allah has done for all Muslims. And, guess what Brownwonder, Allah hates you!

    Allah hates you Brownwonder. He has been hating you for a long time now. Allah demonstrated that he hated you in Spain in 1492. Allah showed that he hated you at Lepanto in 1571. Allah said, “I hate you” at Vienna in 1683. Allah showed that he hated you in 1699 when the Habsburgs recovered Hungary. Allah demonstrated he hated you again in 1770 when the Russians destroyed the Ottoman fleet at Cesme. 1771 – Allah gives Crimea to the Russians. Allah gives Serbia and Greece back to the Serbs and Greeks in 1829. Allah gives Crete away – 1908. Allah gives Bulgaria back to the Bulgarians – 1909. Allah gives Bosnia-Herzegovina away – 1909. Allah gives Montenegro away – 1910. ALLAH DISBANDS THE MUSLIM CALIPHATE – 1924. Why would he do that, pray tell? 1948 – Allah creates Israel. 2001 – invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. 2004 – invasion and occupation of Iraq. Do you understand yet,Brownwonder? ALLAH HATES YOU. Allah loves Western civilization!

    Your civilization will fade and die. All you can offer people is death in the name of Allah.

  73. says

    Mentat:

    In Catherine’s absence, gold star for you today, except you forgot to mention that Allah also helped the Israelies out in ’56, ’67 and ’72 to keep things that way.

  74. says

    “The Hell Fire is 69 times hotter than ordinary worldly fires.’ Carolyn2

    In my version of the Koran (I love it!; its dogeared and underlined and has food stains), the translator kindly explained that “fire” in the Koran is often used as a metaphor for “war.” That really broadened my understanding of the multiple texts that threaten unbelievers with “fire.”

  75. says

    As a lifelong Angeleno I am so happy to see this sign in my town. They say all trends begin in LA or NYC – In this case let’s hope that is true.

    We need more signs and based upon Mr. Spencer’s comments on funding, more publicity to secure money. If this story can make CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc., I can guarantee that donors across the country will come forward. Think Swift Boat Veterans – when something is important the money will come.

    Does anyone have any real media connections to get this story out? What about a “disinformation” press release to all media outlets, i.e. “Right Wing Billboard irks Moslems in Los Angeles”. You know all media will pick up that story.

    Good Work!!

  76. says

    Gina, ” For the doom sayers, we can have the website “jihadwatch.org” instead of “666.” No better advertising than us!What say you?” please explain just WTH.

  77. says

    Re: The Billboard

    Dear Mr. Spencer:

    The anti-liberal spew to which I referred was from a commenter known as “Cross.” I thought I made that clear. It seems to me that you should have addressed your letter to Cross. He/she is the one that started the whining about the ACLU.

    I didn’t say anything political; I didn’t insult Dub, Dick, Condi, or Coulter. I only tried to make Cross understand that the ACLU is politically neutral. They have one client: The US Constitution. Why else would they be fighting to keep Limbaugh out of prison? This is especially true when considering that Limbaugh has done–and audaciously CONTINUES to do!–more to traduce, vilify and excoriate the ACLU than anyone ever has.

    I stated that the majority of people that see the billboard will be liberals… this should be apparent considering the location of said billboard in Los Angeles, California. It should follow that the majority of curious newcomers that are brought here by the billboard (in Los Angeles, California) will also be liberals.

    What if someone wanders in here and sees a bunch of anti-lib, anti-ACLU anger? Do you think that they would

    A) Be inclined to just ignore that bit and focus on learning the truth about Islam, Jihad, and Sharia? Or

    B) Think that since the people that are resisting the Jihad hate liberals and the ACLU, and that they, as liberals, should not try to resist the Jihad?

    If in fact liberals are gullible, prone to irrational decisions, and easily deceived, why fan the fire with irrelevant opinion intended to offend them?

    I don’t mean you personally. I was only talking to Cross, but now I see that “Truth” has thrown his/her hat into the ring, because it is vitally important to him that we all know how much he hates the ACLU. And maybe by the time I finish and post this letter there will be some more.

    Again I tell you that I have no personal desire for an outcome in this matter (which you mocked in a way in your previous comment) except the furtherance of Jihad awareness. Go back and read my previous post. I didn’t say that liberals were great, or that conservatives were bad. Only that anti-lib tripe was going to harm THE MISSION. Do you think I lay awake at night and think to myself that somebody on the internet is saying mean things about me or people like me? Ha. (Well, I do lay awake and worry at night, just not about THAT.) I really, really don’t want to see people TRY to learn the truth about Islam, stumble into this site, click on the comments, and see a bunch of lies that will turn them away.

    I’m not telling you how to run your site or gain support. I don’t know how to run a website, and I don’t know how to educate more people (more than I already do, that is) on the dangers posed by Islamic fundamentalism. But I DO KNOW how to turn people off: insult them (or let your followers insult them) and/or their ideological kin. The futility involved in this matter is especially sad because LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES ALIKE SHOULD RESIST THE JIHAD.

    Please try to understand me. I’m not just addressing Mr. Spencer, Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Warraq, and the rest of the board, but everyone here. As the billboards become more common, this should be recognized as a very important issue, because the simple fact is that if you intend to get the biggest bang for your buck, you’re not going to rent billboards in Sand Lake, Idaho or Okeefenokee, Georgia. You will rent billboards in densely populated areas so that many people will see them. I would guess that NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, Miami, and San Francisco would be on the short list after LA. Go back to the red-blue votes by county map and look at these cities. (Mayhap my good conservative friend Gary will kindly provide a link; as I recall it was at newsmax.com.) Notice that the map is basically a population density map.

    If my intention was to anger or counter as many conservatives as possible, I wouldn’t even come here. I would spend all my time commenting at freerepublic.com, lgf.com, and the other three-hundred-odd right wing blogs.

    My intention is to further the cause of jihad awareness and alert people to the truth. I hope that you, Mr. Spencer, believe this. DC Watson, Colt Walker, anyone… does anyone else here feel the way I do?

    Because there are already over 100 comments for the article in question, I am going to post this comment at a more recent comment area too.

  78. says

    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0820041kerry1.html

    Think Swift Boat Veterans – when something is important the money will come.

    You mean the big-money GOPers that got a bunch of guys that either never served with Kerry or gave him rave reviews in ‘Nam, then came out to elect two draftdodging cowards? The guys that said that Kerry awarded himself his Medals (knowing full well that no one can recommend themselves for a medal)? The guys that said he “wasn’t hurt that bad” (knowing that only a doctor can recommend a Purple Heart, and those doctors were specially trained to detect self-inflictors and malingerers)? The guy that said “Kerry wasn’t under fire when he pulled the Ranger out of the river and didn’t earn his Silver Star” (even though the same guy “earned” a Silver Star of HIS OWN that day, during the same event?)

    I prefer not to think about them.

  79. says

    KJ. I understood your self indulgent drama once you let slip you are a 15 year vegetarian. Your posts are spaced out and incoherent because of it. I’ve seen your symptoms in other vegetarians. Some can handle it (vegetarianism) and some can’t.

    I’m sure you think you are stunningly brilliant here with your leftist jousts but you aren’t. You are merely annoying.

  80. says

    KJ…

    The ACLU political neutral? Come on.

    The ACLU’s one client the Constitution? Come on..again.

    The ACLU represents parts of the Constitution, and only that “PARTS”. Take a look at their cases that they take on. Then take a look at the cases that are reported to them. You will see that over 95% of incidences that are conservative in nature are side stepped. Ask another question of the ACLU, if they properly represent the Constitution, what are their nationwide staffs political affiliations? Say, you, Democrat? Does that mean that only Democrats understand the Constitution or are they overlaying their political affiliations to move a agenda using parts of the Constitution? Would they even allow a conservative to work for them?

    That is like saying the Peace Corp is politically neutral. Every conservative in college that I knew was rejected.

    I have heard for too long that the ACLU and the NAACP are politically neutral. The most recent board member/attorney for the NAACP resigned stating the both the NAACP and the ACLU have been hijacked into the Democratic party and move their agenda directly, and are a direct arm of the Democratic party.

    The President for the NAACP should have caused the NAACP to loose their tax exempt status for violating non profit status by directly endorsing John Kerry for President. The ACLU said nothing. Had that been a conservative group they would had the ACLU move against them and there would have been chains on their doors. A non profit cannot endorse politically.

    Why is it that liberals can say the ACLU is good because it represents certain parts of the Constitution, but the NRA is bad because it represents certain parts of the Constitution?

    Why is it that the ACLU knows better then the Founding Fathers how this country is to work, when the Founding Fathers created the Constitution?

  81. says

    KJ…

    The ACLU political neutral? Come on.

    The ACLU’s one client the Constitution? Come on..again.

    The ACLU represents parts of the Constitution, and only that “PARTS”. Take a look at their cases that they take on. Then take a look at the cases that are reported to them. You will see that over 95% of incidences that are conservative in nature are side stepped. Ask another question of the ACLU, if they properly represent the Constitution, what are their nationwide staffs political affiliations? Say, you, Democrat? Does that mean that only Democrats understand the Constitution or are they overlaying their political affiliations to move a agenda using parts of the Constitution? Would they even allow a conservative to work for them?

    That is like saying the Peace Corp is politically neutral. Every conservative in college that I knew was rejected.

    I have heard for too long that the ACLU and the NAACP are politically neutral. The most recent board member/attorney for the NAACP resigned stating the both the NAACP and the ACLU have been hijacked into the Democratic party and move their agenda directly, and are a direct arm of the Democratic party.

    The President for the NAACP should have caused the NAACP to loose their tax exempt status for violating non profit status by directly endorsing John Kerry for President. The ACLU said nothing. Had that been a conservative group they would had the ACLU move against them and there would have been chains on their doors. A non profit cannot endorse politically.

    Why is it that liberals can say the ACLU is good because it represents certain parts of the Constitution, but the NRA is bad because it represents certain parts of the Constitution?

    Why is it that the ACLU knows better then the Founding Fathers how this country is to work, when the Founding Fathers created the Constitution?

  82. says

    Alaskan writes:

    “The ACLU political neutral? Come on.

    The ACLU’s one client the Constitution? Come on..again.

    The ACLU represents parts of the Constitution, and only that “PARTS”. Take a look at their cases that they take on. Then take a look at the cases that are reported to them. You will see that over 95% of incidences that are conservative in nature are side stepped. Ask another question of the ACLU, if they properly represent the Constitution, what are their nationwide staffs political affiliations? Say, you, Democrat? Does that mean that only Democrats understand the Constitution or are they overlaying their political affiliations to move a agenda using parts of the Constitution? Would they even allow a conservative to work for them? ”

    Bob Barr is currently working with the ACLU to repeal provisions of the Patriot Act.

    The ACLU is helping Rush Limbaugh defend himself in what the ACLU sees as an invasion of Limbaugh’s privacy with respect to his medical records.

    That is like saying the Peace Corp is politically neutral. Every conservative in college that I knew was rejected.

    Anecdotal evidence comming from you doesn’t mean much. Most conservative I know aren’t at all interested in the Peace Corp in the first place.

    I have heard for too long that the ACLU and the NAACP are politically neutral. The most recent board member/attorney for the NAACP resigned stating the both the NAACP and the ACLU have been hijacked into the Democratic party and move their agenda directly, and are a direct arm of the Democratic party.

    The President for the NAACP should have caused the NAACP to loose their tax exempt status for violating non profit status by directly endorsing John Kerry for President.

    As soon as the Cathlic Church and the Christian Coalition lose theirs.

    The ACLU said nothing. Had that been a conservative group they would had the ACLU move against them and there would have been chains on their doors. A non profit cannot endorse politically.

    Why is it that liberals can say the ACLU is good because it represents certain parts of the Constitution, but the NRA is bad because it represents certain parts of the Constitution?

    Why is it that the ACLU knows better then the Founding Fathers how this country is to work, when the Founding Fathers created the Constitution?

    LOL. What I’ve heard is many conservatives like Judge Ray Moore make retarded comments like the 10 Commandments being the basis of legal system. Its not that the ACLU claims to know more than the founding Fathers, but it is astounded by the extent many conservatives go to misrepresent their views.

    Did you have an argument?

    It seems your brain is suffering from permafrost.

  83. says

    It is time for the Muslim world to see themselves in the mirror. They demand tolerance and compassion from the West, but give no tolerance to Jews and Christians in Muslim countries. Saudi Arabian government builds mosques around the world, but prohibit building churches and synagoges and Muslims often burn the ones they have. They freely pracice Islam around the world, but prohibit non-Muslims from pracicing their religion even in the privacy of their own homes. Something is wrong with this picture and I salute the placement of the ad. Wake up America!

  84. says

    Thanks X-Muslim,

    No-one wants a war with islam, or hates it; we all just want to be left alone to find God as we think best, and not to be threatened with death or called “Satan” because we don’t believe in Mohammed. That’s it. Thanks for your comments and I hope you find God or whoever it is, so long as we all stay peaceful and kind towards each other.

    Geoff

  85. says

    Well, I was going to redden Alaskan’s candy fanny but I see someone beat me to it. Crusher handed you your hat!

    Please answer, Alaskan…. IF the ACLU isn’t politically neutral, why then do they support “conservative” causes?

    The ACLU isn’t really important here. I am trying my level best to get you and people like you to SHUT THE HELL UP about the ACLU, so that newcomers to this site will not be put off by political blather. And you fire back with a bunch of crap about the ACLU “chaining their doors” and Kerry, and the NAACP.

    And now I see that yet another loudmouth has piped up with the ACLU “racket” suing for “offending Muslims.”

    For Gods sake, do I realy have to spell this out for you again? Try to understand:

    1) With the billboard up we should expect a lot of new visitors.

    2) The billboard is in Los Angeles, California. According to the “Billboard Fund” article on today’s post, the next three will be in DC, Chicago, and NYC.

    3) Most people in these cities, like all big cities, tend to be liberal.

    4) Wisecracks (and out-and-out lies) about the ACLU, John Kerry, the NAACP, PETA, etc. etc. will ONLY ALIENATE and anger what should reasonably be assumed will be mostly LIBERAL city folk visiting THIS site to learn about jihad resistance.

    CAN YOU UNDERSTAND NOW? Please shut your G.D. pieholes. NO ONE CARES what you think about the ACLU.

    *********************************************

    KJ. I understood your self indulgent drama once you let slip you are a 15 year vegetarian. Your posts are spaced out and incoherent because of it. I’ve seen your symptoms in other vegetarians. Some can handle it (vegetarianism) and some can’t. I’m sure you think you are stunningly brilliant here with your leftist jousts but you aren’t. You are merely annoying.

    “Let slip”? What, am I supposed to be ashamed for that? Oh I’m soooo sorry for not eating crap that kills you. I don’t smoke cigarettes (or anything else for that matter) and I don’t drink coffee or caffienated softdrinks….or alcohol. So does that make me incoherent too?

    I’m not trying to be stunningly brilliant, but if I want to feel stunning and brilliant, I need only glance at my diploma. I don’t really think that I’m that great, but those PhDs in physics from Cornell and MIT that gave me my grades sure thought I was.

    So I am merely annoying… well, that’s your out. Keep making JW and DW into your own little clearinghouse for right-wing graffiti, little man. Nevermind the (mostly liberal) people that will come here to learn the truth about Jihad. Just piss them off as good as you can. The important thing is to continuously tow the party line, and to hell with all else.

  86. says

    Will you guys just all let it go? Man. It isn’t deen, laws no.

    You will not speak of it, or you will all receive a double punishment, inshallah!

    Imam Geoff