These poor guys were found guilty of "transporting, food, goods, equipment, and munitions for the U.S. army," and were therefore killed. From the jihadist site Jihadunspun, "Jaish Ansar Asunnah Executes Six Sudanese Collaborators":
Jaish Ansar asunnah has proven to be not only one of the most active Mujahideen groups in Iraq but also one of the most uncompromising when it comes to deterring those who will sell themselves as lackeys to the US occupiers....JUS reported two days ago that Jaish Ansar assunah had captured six Sudanese drivers. Now, the group has carried out interrogations and executed all six who confessed to working with the Americans. They subsequently have issued both a statement and a video with respect to incident.
Here are the statements, uncut and uncensored, as translated by JUS:
In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious, Most MercifulPraise be to Allah, who glorifies Islam and Muslims, humiliates Kufr [unbelief] and unbelievers, and exposes the nakedness of Hypocrites. Peace and prayer be upon the one who was sent with the sword ahead of the Day of Judgement as mercy to all mankind.
If this is your mercy, you can have it. Note the emphasis on religion, the Qur'an quoting, etc. This is what makes people like this so hard for Muslims to resist.
{To the Hypocrites give the good tidings that there is for them a grievous chastisement. Those who take for friends Unbelievers rather than Believers: Is it honor they seek among them? Nay, All honor is with Allah.}, [Qur'an] 4:138-139We have announced the abduction of the six Sudanese drivers in a previous statement. Interrogation proved that they work for a Jordanian company, which in turns has a contract with the Americans in Ein Al-Asad base, Baghdadi, in western Iraq. The drivers were engaged in transporting, food, goods, equipment, and munitions for the U.S. army.
The reaction after they were captured was similar to these who were captured before them. They were quick to denounce their line of work and announce their repentance. But we must say: Where was your repentance at the time when women, children, old, and young were being killed at the hands of Americans everyday? Where was your repentance when the prisons were being filled up with Iraqis? Where was your repentance when you were carrying what is essential for the American occupiers to continue their war against Islam?
We announce to the entire world, any time we capture people of this kind, we will offer nothing but killing, whether or not they repent.
So, to those who are contemplating working with the Americans, we will hunt you down. And those who are currently working for the Americans, your turn will come up, hopefully sooner than later....
I don't mean to quibble, but I don't like the use of the word "execute" in this context. It implies some sort of legal process. These victims were murdered, not "executed."
Dear Sbrst:
Point well taken. I was asleep at the wheel. The headline and post have now been revised.
Cordially
Robert Spencer
Islam as death cult. The "good" Muslims say nothing of such murders. They are silent in support or fear.
"We announce to the entire world, any time we capture people of this kind, we will offer nothing but killing, whether or not they repent."
Hey, they just found a new advertising slogan for Islam...
Moose
The Muslims, Jews and Christians and all honest people should fight these extremist criminals. We should fight all extremists whether it is Christian fanatics, Muslim fanatics or Jewish fanatics. We must stand together and state that we will not tolerate any religious extremism.
Soon the beloved Jesus will be with us again. There will no Muslim, there will be No Christian, there will be no Jew. There will only be the believers. We will stand together; we will be brothers and sisters in faith. We will claim God is Great and that Satan has been defeated. We must fight extremism together. That is the way forward for Mankind.
Peace.
"The Muslims, Jews and Christians and all honest people should fight these extremist criminals. We should fight all extremists whether it is Christian fanatics, Muslim fanatics or Jewish fanatics. We must stand together and state that we will not tolerate any religious extremism.
Soon the beloved Jesus will be with us again. There will no Muslim, there will be No Christian, there will be no Jew. There will only be the believers. We will stand together; we will be brothers and sisters in faith. We will claim God is Great and that Satan has been defeated. We must fight extremism together. That is the way forward for Mankind.
Peace."
Ah, Muslim apologetics take a new tack -- simply ignore the contents of Qur'an, Hadith, and Sira, and hope that the Infidels won't notice, and go back to that old staple of "fanatics" in all three (abrahamic, monotheistic - choose whatever misleading adjective you want).
To the Muslim apologist, one must point out the followiing:
The supposed commonality of Islam with Christianity and Judaism is simply a matter of Islam's appropriating, and in the process distorting, stories and even phrases from the sacred texts of both the prior monotheisms. It is silly to call for "Jesus" to return -- which Jesus, the non-divine Jesus of Islam? Or the Son of God of Christianity?
Christians and Jews may "share" monotheism with Islam, but that is about all they "share." Islam is a threat to them, as polythetistic faiths are not. A Hindu with a statue of Ganesh in his house is no threat to me. A "monotheistic" Muslim is. An atheist is no threat to me.
A "monothestic" Muslim is, even one who assures me that in Islam "Moses" and "Jesus" are revered.
It is Islam that is the menace to the rest. Transparent appeals to a phony commmonality with Jews and Christians might once have worked.
But no longer. The jig is up.
Ia786:
'Religious extremism' is prescribed in the Qu'ran and mandatory for every muslim. If you sit at home while your brothers fight the Jihad, you are a bad muslim, didn't they teach you that in the mosque?
I am not worried about Christian or Jewish fanatics, Ireland is rather quiet these days and Meir Kahane was killed 10 years ago.
But I must say, your posts are quite different from before. Are you still a Muslim?
Correct me if I'm wrong, are you the one who declared the writings of the Qu'ran as 'filth' when it was quoted to him?
ia786:
Christians believe there is no God but Yahweh and Jesus is His Son and Word and the only Way to the true God and that the prophet of Islam is an unbeliever and therefore condemned and that the writings of Islam are false, and the god of Islam is a false god, and that the teachings in Islam about Jesus are false.
Christianity has nothing to do with Islam at all. And when Jesus returns, the only "Muslim" with Him will be the ones who have found Christ, believed in the truth about Him and have renounced their belief in Islam, the false prophet and the false god--and therefore are no longer Muslim.
Belief in Christianity, Islam and Judaism are mutually exclusive. Read the Christian Bible. You will see that what is written there about the true God and Jesus is not what is written in the false writings of Islam. It is illogical to believe that believers in Islam and Christianity worship the same god.
Jesus healed people who were blind.
The prophet of Islam murdered a blind person.
Jesus healed and restored people.
The prophet of Islam mutilated and killed people and taught his followers to mutilate and kill people.
Jesus raised people from the dead.
The prophet of Islam killed them.
Jesus taught that only one man and one woman could be married and that sex only in this context is pure.
The prophet of Islam told his followers that they could rape people who did not believe in Islam if they withdrew before ejaculation, could rape non Muslims.
Christianity has nothing to do with Islam.
"In the Name of Allah, most gracious, most merciful"..."Praise be to Allah who glorifies Islam and muslim" I thought the Jews were the "chosen" people...Oh well, I guess whoever wrote that in the bible was just mistaken. Besides, Allah has a God given right to change his mind, and support whom-ever he wants. I dont think the association with Mohammad was good for Allah. He seems to have picked up some wierd ideas and a cranky, violent disposition. An ancient saying is "the gods created the world and then they laughed". This means that Allah once had a sense of humor, but Mohammad came along and put a stop to that. You notice that Allah never talks about peace or love or any of that, it's always about him, obeying him, bowing to him...he even wants 1/5 of the loot. (the up-keep of paradise is expensive). And to top that off, he wants his glofied sons (muslims) to kill anyone who wont go for Allahs protection racket. Ever wonder what Allah does when not directing glorified muslims in jihad? He has lots of hobbies...pulling the wings off flys, drowning kittens, and doing wierd things to his dog with a fork. I cant figure out whats "merciful" or "compassionate", about that, just like I cant figure out whats merciful or compassionate about beheading someone and yelling "Allahu Akbar"...How can you tell me that you are God while you are pulling the wings off of flys?
ia786:
You are a typical Muslim apologist in that you never respond to any questions that are brought up about your religion. However, you have apparently drunk deep at the font of dawanet, which for some strange reason is no longer online so I cannot link to the appropriate section. In any case, the good folks at dawanet direct Muslims to emphasize the "commonality" between their faith and the Christian and Jewish faith and then work from there. I can see you are following this dictum to the letter. However, as Hugh points out, there is NO commonality between Islam and Christianity and Judaism.
ia 786
Im, with you man...lets go fight those religious extreemists...which ones should we start with?
ia786 - I have a question for you:
In a decent reputable court of law - which side should win?
The side that has one lone accuser who was not present during the time in question?
OR
the side that has several eye witnesses whose testimonies all agree?
Please answer honestly
ia666-
As one who is NOT a 'believer'... who prefers knowledge over the mutable human whimsy that has 'believed' such things as:
'needing to cut out living hearts to feed the Sun'; 'being required by their faith to roll their live infant children into holocaust fires to appease their dyspepic Carthaginian god', '"Christians" burning "witches" who kissed the rear end of the "devil" to seal their satanic pacts', or that 'the firstborn of Egpyt would have to die to make the god of the ancient Hebrews happy', ad absurdum...
-you can take your impending vision of all 'People of the Book' united under a Muslimized pseudo-"Jesus" - and stick it where the 'sun don't shine'.
There is no freedom of thought in such a world.
And without that, we are a mindless as mud wasps.
P.S.-
Of course, I meant "dyspeptic Carthaginian god".
("Egypt" you can spell any way you want... just don't visit there at the moment... girls with machine guns make poor 'Intourist' guides.)
The fingers are willing but the spellcheck eye is weak.
'the firstborn of Egpyt would have to die to make the god of the ancient Hebrews happy'
BigSleep - you have assumed the Bible means first born ''''humans''''?
If so - you have left out the Truth.
Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
God speaks to the heavens AND the earth - to the visible AND the invisible.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and YE THAT DWELL IN THEM. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
The Old Testament is a record of the earth AND the heavens:
2Ki 4:18 And when the child was grown, it fell on a day, that he went out to his father to the reapers. {The reapers are the angels.
If the first born of God - who is Christ - is made up of many members 1Cr 12:12 - how can you BigSleep prove - that each of the first born of Egypt were not made up of many members also?
Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.
Truly, eternal life is at stake.
Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
What happens to you BigSleep - if in the day of Judgment - when the books are opened - along with the book of Life - and the Words of the Book of Life are found not to be guilty of what you have claimed?
Words that were available to you - even before that dreadful day?
But here is an even better challenge to you BigSleep:
Present the Words of the New Covenant - rightly divided - that can prove the Word of God violates the laws of America - as the Koran does - thoroughly.
Mic 6:3 O my people, what have I [the Lord] done unto thee? and wherein have I wearied thee? Testify against Me.
Go ahead BigSleep - use the Christians'God's own words - and testify against Him. For they were delivered unto flesh - the earth.
Terminator
Over at FFI He claims to be the Lion of Allah
but not only been exposed of being a liar but ia786 has been exposed by Ali Sina to be a Muslim Satanic Deceiver:KRATOY:who is doing taqiyya by telling lies on behalf of Satanic devil Muhammad.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8912&start=90
Scroll down half way on page 4
Notice how the fascist Muslim swine at Jihad Unspun put quotes around "terrorism" yet print propaganda releases and puff pieces about murderous garbage like these typical Muslim terrorists.
Here is another example of "Islamic mercy," to kill unarmed civilians, no trial, no following of international war laws, only the law of mercilessness, murder, and denial of self responsibility in the name of the Islam.
These Islamic dog slobs (thugs) only kill these civilians because, can't fight a "rational engagement," so they murder, murder, murder, and call it justice in the name of the Islam. What a pathetic religion if that is their rule of law.
Roll out the B-52's and let's drop heavy payloads that thunder across the Middle East. I want to get this war over with. I'm disgusted with this crap of a movement known as Jihad. I say take them out first before more harm comes to the west. Only, I'm afraid it is too late. No one in Washington has the stomach or the guts to do it right.
No one in Washington has the stomach or the guts to do it right.
2Cr 10:4 The weapons [Scriptures] of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds. {{{ This is the God that condemned Palestine for end times:
Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
The god of the Koran forgot to mention Palestine. And he should have - No? It concerns 'his people' more than any other people on earth.
PROOF Against allah:
035.040 Say: "Have ye seen these 'Partners' of yours whom ye call upon besides Allah? Show Me what it is they have created in the wide earth. Or have they a share in the heavens? Or have We given them a Book from which they can derive clear evidence?- Nay, the wrong-doers promise each other nothing but delusions.
Is Palestine a 'delusion'?
021.024 Or have they taken for worship other gods besides him? Say, "Bring your convincing proof:
027.064 "Bring forth your argument, if ye are telling the truth!"
Proof from the Book that allah attacks:
Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: Before they spring forth I tell you of them.
Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times. {from the Book that offers Convincing Proof]
Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD?
Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous?
We're ALL looking at Palestine...aren't we?
Upon what Spiritual Authority do the preachers of "It is your duty as a Muslim to fight and slay the pagans" make such concerning Palestine?
Aren't they afraid of allah's punishment? The one who claims to be "All knowing, and Wise" ???
The allah of the Koran NEVER commanded his followers to establish a state called Palestine in place of another name - a name that the Koran DOES mention - Israel.
There is no Truth in Islam - nor its followers - concerning Palestine.
And this Truth about it - has the power to shut the mouths of kings who speak not accordingly.
Good on u hugh
you got his number
The lion of allah[How great is the Glory of God!!!]is now offering peace
well we can see the peace his god offered to these poor guys
I for once agree with Ia/Bernard/Berny: we should fight all extremists. That they should be mostly, if not all, islamic shouldn't dissuade us.
Geoff
Beth-
There are a thousand different creeds with opposing visions of 'truth', all at one another's throats throughout history, to the death, death, death. Most have been relegated to the dustbins of historical belief (although those they caused to die are still just as dead.
I'll take a more reserved view of 'truth' and live in the world that is. Infinite, Eternal, Alive, and, whether conscious behind the scenes or not, who knows?
If we have a soul and there is a God, I'll take my chances with just being decent.
A Creator would respect honesty over mere rote fealty, I would guess, anyway.
Hurling quotes is as tedious as hurling, period.
I'll let those who like that throw suras and Torahs at you.
As somebody once said:
"'Be compassionate' is the only rule that doesn't start wars."
(Although the Taliban blew his statue to bits in sanctimonious disagreement.)
Islamenace
ia would be a hypocrite if he hadn't already shown himself to be practicing Taqiyya. These people are not extremists, they are good muslims.
Sura 4:45 Someone asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Who is the best among the people?" Allah's Apostle replied, "A believer who strives his utmost in Allah's cause with his life and property." They asked, "Who is next?" He replied, "A believer who stays in one of the mountain paths worshiping Allah and leaving the people secure from his mischief."
[In other words, fighting in Jihad is better than being a devout monk.]
BigSleep
"A Creator would respect honesty over mere rote fealty [reality], I would guess, anyway.
Hurling quotes is as tedious as hurling, period"
Yes - it can be BigSleep
'the firstborn of Egpyt would have to die to make the god of the ancient Hebrews happy'
As somebody once said:
"'Be compassionate' is the only rule that doesn't start wars."
My point exactly. The Lord of the Bible is full of compassion - and wisdom - Who also is constantly accused of things He is not guilty of.
Unless we learn to deal with the 'terrorists' on the ONLY terms they understand - [without becoming just like them - VIOLENT] we will NEVER get anywhere - and people will continue to die - needlessly.
So - what better do you have to offer BigSleep - that might get their attention?
From the Koran:
005.047 Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.
The people of the Gospel will have FAR MORE success in reaching the minds of 'terrorists' than any atheist ever will.
BigSleep - you may not be alone in your boredom with incredible facts that many are starved for.
But I believe those who welcome the power of the Truth FAR outweigh those who are board with it.
Nevertheless - I would surely welcome any words of wisdom that you have to offer that can make murderers reconsider their intentions.
I'm all ears.
'religious' murderers - that is.
How do you BigSleep - plan on reaching into their minds to make them reconsider their bloody mission? without becoming just like them - Violent? For violence will only beget more violence.
Isn't that what Jihad Watch is about? Informing the people - and finding solutions?
Geoff
I for once agree with Ia/Bernard/Berny: we should fight all extremists. That they should be mostly, if not all, islamic shouldn't dissuade us.
but do you believe the Lion of Allah would really against his own
I also agree like you
but when a statement like this is made by Ia/Bernard/Berny the first thing that comes to mind is Taqiyah.
Any statement from Ia/Bernard/Berny is very dodgy bearing in mind how times they/it been exposed to lying,also Ia786s earlier statement about shaheed
PS Great debating/sweeping over at FFI
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9109
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9137
Nice to sit back and obverse
Shiva, you can't get enough of me, can you old chap?
Shiva you have used offensive language against me, you did it here a while back and I asked you to apologise, other people here condemned you. However you didn't apologise. The people here can visit, the site below:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8371&start=1440
They can see the hatred you have for me. I have stated many times that I am a moderate Muslim against Extreme Islam yet you look the other way when I say this.
Shiva wrote in the FFI forum:
"muzi
If you dont like my comment muzi thats your problem for choosing to be a muslim."
He goes on to state that he will stop calling me a Muzi if I denounce Islam and renounce slandering Ali Sina and Robert Spencer (I have never slandered, used inappropriate language or attacked them, I merely question the things Robert Spencer posts). Shiva you are a fanatic.
Shiva goes on to say he wants me to denounce Islam on Islamic Forums and he wants me to post the links on FFI, only then he will stop calling me a 'muzi'
Shiva wrote:
"denounce Islam on as many Islamic forums as possible,and post the links here.Then I will drop the term MUZI and will show respect."
Telling someone to denounce Islam is not as powerful as showing them things that will make them want to denounce it themselves - without being told to do so.
Taking it one step at a time - without running to criticize another....how can any human want to be a Muslim?
004.101 When ye travel through the earth , there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
And that is ok - Spiritually speaking. But, then it gets physical:
009.004 (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term.
009.005 But when the forbidden months are past [when the 'treaties' expire} then fight and slay the Pagans ''''wherever'''' ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.
004.104 And slacken not in following up the enemy: If ye are suffering hardships, they are suffering similar hardships.
009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
004.095 Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit at home. But those who strive and fight hath He distinguished above those who sit at home by a special reward.
002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?
009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.
009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what ''' the unbelievers ''' of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
According to 'allah' the Christians who believe in the Son of God - are '''unbelievers'''
The Islamic command is....
009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight, smite at their necks. [Behead them!]
If a Muslim is not willing to carry out those violent commands - then they are not a true Muslim. [allah says so]
It is perplexing beyond words - to be told all of your life how Holy 'allah' is - only to find out that he demands war aginst all who refuse to bow to him. {That is his cause - he says so]
But it can be comforting to learn - that there is another God - Who cliams to be the Creator of the heavens and the earth - and He condemns all forms of violence.
It is His will that ALL come to Him. But He gives us that free choice to do so - on our own.
In this - the character of 'allah' is revealed - and so is the character of the God of the Bible.