Will democracy take root in the Islamic world? Not if these students have anything to say about it. From Pakistan's Daily Times, with thanks to Nicolei:
LAHORE: Talaba-e-Jamatud Dawa will organise a series of seminars from May 17 to June 4 against liberalism, secularism and the establishment of the Aga Khan Education Board, said the organisation's president Hameeedul Hassan on Sunday.Talabe-e-Jamatul Dawa is the student wing of Jamatud Dawa,a religious
organistion headed by Hafiz Saeed. Hassan and Asif Khurshid, the
organisation's information secretary, said in a press conference that the Aga Khan Board followed America's agendas and it should not be allowed to make decisions about academic syllabi. They said that seminars would raise awareness about Islam, fundamentalism and anti-liberalism. A seminar will be held in Lahore on June 2.
Why the sneer quotes? They are denouncing liberalism, plain and simple. They hate feminists, homosexuals, atheists, multiculturalists, secularists, evolutionists, gun control advocates, peaceniks, commies, etc. They hate liberals. Just like Hitler.
KJ-
I think the extremist jihadists welcome "gun control advocates" and "peaceniks" since both play into the hands of these militant holy warriors.
I don't know what their view on evolution is. It probably would have been accepted by medieval Islamic scholars who were busy plagiarizing Aristotle and Galen, -but, lately, I would guess that the flat-earthers of Allah hold sway.
Hitler, being a vegetarian psychopath, is too messy an analogy to work with these current nutjobs, since his motives are so mixed (liberal 'socialism' mixed with stone age Wotan-cult 'pure race' crackpot-ism) that you can find tiny threads of sanity (good roads, sanitation, high tech research) swamped in the overwhelming cultic miasma of superstitious insanity ('aryan bloodlines', scapegoating the weak to excuse your failings, 'world conquest to establish a supreme state', etc.).
Until Islam reforms the maniacal violence out of the Koran, there is no hope for the Muslims.
Till then, like the soviet communists, they need to be contained.
And gotten out of the West, where they are cultural termites, at best. Gnawing the Sharia into our liberal, secular codes of law slowly, cunningly and inexorably.
I wasn't able to get to the article but what do these people say that is particularly anti-Democratic?
Democracy: Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
liberals are Americaphobic. Bushaphobic news outlets nyt, sleezeweek, ad infinitum allow mosquemania to recruit jihad warriors beyond bin laden and zarqawi’s wildest dreams.
liberals are terrorist friendly.
Cross, give us a break? Wasn't it Grover Norquist who invited all sorts of Muslim leaders to chat with George ll cause Muslims share all sorts of good conservative family and religious values with the GOP?
Muslims naturally reject any values that interferes with their oppressive, braindead, hateful fanaticism!
Last I checked it was not a Conservative or GOP magazine or news report that lied and said the US military was mistreating prisoners or their book.
Cross, old chap,
it may well be that the golden ratio 80:20 holds for both conservatives and liberals in America. 80% of both would oppose islamism and its attendent evils. The other 20% are the extremists - hardcore lefties who ahte america or hardcore klanners and antisemites who hate common sense. Either way, we need the 80% from both sides to join up.
At the moment, 80% of the conservatives oppose islamism in the US but only about 20% of the liberals are alive to the threat, seems like.
Well voletti since you are not in America let someone who is tell you. 100% of the liberals hate the fact that George Bush is President and are doing everything to undermine this Adminstration. They do not want any Republican progress.
What we need is for liberals too keep their noses out of politics, step aside and to stop being obstructionists. These minority crybabies are good for absolutely nothing and we sure as hell don't need them around to help us to anything. They are and have been a hinderance.
Hey Cross:
Last I checked it was not a Liberal, nor a magazine, nor a news report that lied and said the US military had to go to Iraq to beat back the only threat to Iran and Saudi Arabia.
LOL... I love it. Cross and his buddies LOOOVE to argue, but just can't win. Don't worry Cross. Those 1600 dead GIs and Marines weren't that important. It was much, much more important to make sure that Muslim fanatics in Iraq and Iran could take over Iraq (democratically, of course.)
Talk about a Personality Cult, that's exactly what the GOPers have become. They aren't even good conseratives; they are really even conservative. They've broken the federal government; they're into "nation building" as the "worlds' police". They are using big government to intrude into our personal lives. They are squandering hundreds of billions of tax dollars in Iraq while shutting down military bases here and not adequately guarding our borders.... remember back when "Slick Willie" shut down a few military bases...oh what a hue and cry oinked out of the right-wing MSM echochamber: "Clinton is DECIMATING THE MILITARY!!!" But now, that it is obvious that the military base closures are just part of a plan that was started in 1990 and continued to the present? "No big whoop. Bush says it's okay."
Oh yes, the new buzz word: obstructionists. Not a peep EVER came up when the Democrats ran the Senate about a "nuclear option" to end the filibuster, even when such luminaries as Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms blocks 62 of Clinton's judiciary nominees.
Yeah, all those liberal politicians have NO BUSINESS in politics. We should only let politicians serve if they are conservative, right Cross? Did your priest tell you that, or Rush Limbaugh?
Cross, you are being HAD. The conservatives are doing everything they can do to undermine this country because it is the stated purpose of many of them to ruin the federal government.
The fact that George Wallace criticized the GOP in the nineties is proof enough that the "radical conservatives" of the sixties were less crazy than the "moderates" of today.
The fact is that there are dhimmis of every political stripe. They are in it for the money, numbnuts. That's why Dub wants to grant "amnesty" to MILLIONS of ILLEGAL aliens. That's why James Baker works for the Saudis, fighting a lawsuit filed by the widows, orphans, etc. and survivors of the 9-11 attacks. What could be more un-American than that? Did you not see Dub's beloved concubine, Condi Rice on national television extoling the virtues of Islam and their "holy" book of murderous fairytales? Or are you still thinking about the Somalia 19? Wake up dude: you are being duped. As long as you continually distract with your pathetic partisan blather, Islam is going to continue to grow and grow. There are some issues on which we all, liberals and conservatives, agree. Fighting the spread of Islam SHOULD be one of them. MOST liberals that I talk to understand this. We are not all Rachel Corries and Lynne Stewarts, just like yall aren't all Grover Norquists and James Bakers. So get off it.
Islam hates what liberals are. That's why the liberals, atheists, secularists, intellectuals, etc. all went straight to the gallows in Iran after Khommeini took over.
Islam hates humanists, atheists, secularist, intellectualism, abortion, birth control, feminism, homesexuality, sodomy (even among married men and women); they want "God's Law" to run the courts, schools, theaters, television, radio, and all literature. Stop me if this starts to sound familiar.
And Voletti, don't forget about that sizable minority of hardcore extreme conservatives that hate America too. Remember Timothy McVeigh?
Cross, just tell me who said this: "Big government is the problem," Reagan, or Timothy McVeigh? Tell me.
No way gayj,
The wool is off the eyes of the people now. You liberals thought you had it all swished down around our ears nice and tight. All these last gasp lies of your media and filibustering of your lowly government officials have made it clear. Your party has come apart at the seams. George Bush was elected last November and has another 3 and a half years as your leader and Commander in Chief, accept it. If not, you are free to continue to obstruct, lie, complain, cry, throw hissy fits, filibuster, print lies in newspapers and magazines, produce silly shows for TV and movies, talk among yourselves like old gossipy spinsters, write crazy liberal defending rants on blogs etc etc.
The military complex, intelligence and the rest of government does not require the help of liberals to win wars. But, we do need to keep spending and increasing these departments to about 3 times of what they currently are. This little Iraq thing would already be wrapped up if it wasn't for 8 years of Clinton decimating the military budget and more importantly reducing the intelligence services by of two thirds of what it was before he humped into office. He reduced the military and intelligence departments in order to implement failed social programs that he promised the liberal base, most of which he never even attempted to introduce at all. He lied to all the homos and fems and everyone else. Talk about being duped, now that is the real funny shi*.
But you are more concerned about who likes or doesn't like homosexuals and feminists. Those of us in the real world will tell you, who the hell cares?
Politics...grrrr...the liberal gets the conservative in a headlock and power dives him to the floor, the CON, though dazed, counters with a figure four leg lock. The lib gets out of it by sticking his thumb in the CON's eye.
Someone throws a metal chair in the ring, the liberal grabs it and hits the CON across the back. The CON staggers across the ring and manages to climb to the top rope, jumps off, and lands flat on the lib...both of them are knocked out and nobody wins...Where's DC when you need him....?