No surprise here: as I said yesterday, "Newsweek's belated retraction is unlikely to blunt the force of this as yet another new pretext for jihad." "Muslims doubt Quran climbdown," from CNN:
KABUL, Afghanistan -- Muslims in Afghanistan and Pakistan were skeptical after a U.S. magazine backed away from a report that U.S. interrogators desecrated copies of the Quran while questioning prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.
The account in Newsweek magazine's May 9 issue has been blamed for sparking deadly riots in Afghanistan and other parts of the Muslim world.
On Sunday, Newsweek backed away from the report and offered its sympathies "to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst."
But Muslims said they suspected that pressure from Washington was behind the magazine's climbdown, Reuters reported Monday.
"We will not be deceived by this," Islamic cleric Mullah Sadullah Abu Aman told Reuters in the northern Afghan province of Badakhshan.
"This is a decision by America to save itself. It comes because of American pressure. Even an ordinary illiterate peasant understands this and won't accept it."
On Sunday, a group of clerics led by Aman vowed to call for a jihad, or holy war, against the United States in three days unless it handed over the interrogators reported to have desecrated the Quran...
CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen said "desecrating the Quran is a death-penalty offense" in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan.
The Pentagon said last week it was unable to corroborate any case in which interrogators at the U.S. Naval Station in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, defiled the Muslim holy book, as Newsweek reported...
"It's not acceptable now that the magazine says it's made a mistake," Reuters quoted 42-year-old writer and journalist Hafizullah Torab as saying. "No one will accept it."...
"Newsweek is backtracking, but it's not just their report," said Ghaffar Aziz, a top official of the Jamaat-e-Islami party. "All innocent people released from U.S. custody have said on the record that there was desecration of the Koran."...
Morning All!
Today’s Extras on Jihad’s 5th Column:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18049
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1347
No need to mention Newsweek links, one only needs hear about the rising body count to know which side of the issues they are on.
Desecrating the quran Is Free Speech. muslims Can either deal with it, or pound sand. We Americans have no intention of forfeiting Free Speech out of concern for muslim sensibilities.
Would that the Newsweek 'rumor' were fact.
No muslims. No mosques.
Desecrating the Quran may be the way to go to expose fundies.
It should be done weekly as a reality show :"Who wants to descrate the Quran"
"They" have been looking for the "spark" that would ignite the whole of the Muslim world, a world that holds us in contempt and shows its hatred and disdain by believing a rumor, a rumor that they want to be true. You notice that the clerics are stirring the pot. One wonders what is being said within American mosques....
I warned them. They have just 13 hours to comply or the flushing will begin. Unlike the Newsleak fiction, this is no joke. I am serious. This is real. I will flush. Allah will punish them for not preventing this crime of the century. What's it gonna be? Flush? Not flush?
"This is a decision by America to save itself. It comes because of American pressure. Even an ordinary illiterate peasant understands this and won't accept it."
BIG ALLAH: I often tell them (illiterate peasants) the earth is flat too...they like that one.
What's it gonna be? Flush? Not flush?
Posted by: Hulegu Khan
lols
One wonders what is being said within American mosques....
Posted by: epg
All one has to do - is read the Koran.
These ones - I will share with you:
033.050 O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated from Makka with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers at large
033.051 Thou mayest defer the turn of any of them that thou pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest: and there is no blame on thee if thou invite one whose turn thou hadst set aside. This were nigher to the cooling of their eyes, the prevention of their grief, and their satisfaction - that of all of them - with that which thou hast to give them
Pay close attention to the following:
033.052 It is not lawful for thee to marry more women after this, nor to change them for other wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess as handmaidens
They are permitted to trade back and forth the ones they took as prisoners of war [after killing their men] - as though they are merchandise just so they can have their way with them. [''justifiable'' mass rape. This is Islam]
The men are to be slaughtered [until the land is thoroughly subdued 008.067 ] and their wives and daughters raped by Muslim men - as they please.
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight [jihad], smite at their necks. [Behead them!]
Ever see an actual beheading?
America is REALLY in trouble. Islamic communities are popping up everywhere.
With all the 'rednecks' construction workers - bikers 'Christians'??? - there is going to be anarchy if the leaders don't wake up - and soon.
Well I say flush away! Then flush some more! Flush until the torn scaps of the Koran are soaked in human wasted! Then send the soaked scraps to the Saudis with our best wishes!
Watch the Dimmitude exude from Washington on this one!
Oh, please! Oh, Please! Anything you want! Here take 50 billion as compensation! More? No problem! Just ask and ye shall recieve!
How disgusting!
Aman says "This is a decision by America to save itself."
Save ourselves from what?? Is there something special about the jihad you are calling for in three days that will be a bit different from all the other 'death to America' jihads we have been hearing about for quite some time now? As far as I'm concerned, we will keep disrespecting Islam and the Koran here in America (that's our right) and you can keep declaring jihad. If enough Islamic clerics declare war and enough islamic dimwits carry out murders (excuse me, martyrdoms) in the name of jihad our leaders might recognize the enemy and make an official declaration of who the enemy is.
There will eventually be a straw that breaks the camels back. They will declare one too many jihads and we will take them at their word. Islam will become a military enemy.
Then, I believe whatever success the jihadis have gained in the last few decades due to Saudi oil profits will seem like the glory years for Islam because they will be up the creek if we take on Islam unambiguosly. They won't recover soon.
Damn I'm glad that I come from a place where taking a dump on a book doesn't demand a death sentence. Think about it, what kind of god would be so insecure in his words to demand this of his followers?
One good thing about this whole incident is all the people who are joking about it. Islam definitely needs to be scorned by satire. The only problem I have is that some well meaning comics like Kaosktrl, Hulega, or BillR might actually get their heads sawed off for some well directed humor.
And yet no one will comment on the desicration of the Bible in Saudia Arabia by the Waahabist religious police.
George Stephanopolous was just commenting on ABC's Goodmorning America that the US Government fears that the Genie is out of the bottle and that we can't put it back.
Do you think these people are maybe,possibly,ever going to wake up to the fanatasism that rages in muslim minds where rocks,and books are more important than human life. God help us if the whole world thought like this.
So, they don't believe Newsweek's retraction? [which isn't much of a retraction] Meanwhile, Condoleeza Rice's statement about the "holy" Koran has not been retracted, in whole or in part, nor does her statement have any meaning to the primitive cultists so offended by something that probably didn't even HAPPEN!
The media are starting to question Newsweek's irresponsibility in releasing the story, but that is not really the point, is it? The "offended ones" are responsible for reacting in such a primitive and cultlike fashion. Put the blame there, please.
A crock is a crock is a Quran...
Muslims actually think they can win something by stiring up jihad for nearly any reason at nearly any time...as far as I can see they are clear and consitant losers...their whole love affair with death guarantees it.
The psychotic behavior continues....
A muslim detainee flushed pages of the Koran to stop up the toilet in his protest of his detention...so much for his feelings of his holy book.
Muslims desecrated the Church of the Nativity. War has been declared on the non-islamic world by the muslims. That is a fact that slowly the civilized war is finally waking up to.
Hulequ Khan....lol.
I wonder how big a toilet should be to allow for flushing of Koran...
O Great Khan,
You can demand the lives of mere mortal men to forestall your smear campaign against the Koran, but a lowly thing like me, well, I must demand that the Moslem world give me one billion dollars to prevent me from venting my speen. No, not my spleen.
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it: I'm printing up pages of the Koran, and daily, unless of course I get the big bucks, I'm going to drop off my Koranic toilet paper at the Pakistani storefronts during prayer-times. It won't make much difference if they don't know about it, so I guess I'll have to leave a paper trail for them to find the sign announcing Islam is Shite."
Yeah, I hate to merd-er a book but...oh, heckers.
"This is a decision by America to save itself."
Save ourselves? from what.
"It comes because of American pressure. Even an ordinary illiterate peasant understands this and won't accept it."
Wouldn't that be all of them? lol
After this story i am thinking of haveing my own koran burning i could make it a party and invite friends.
Of course they don't want to believe the retraction. And tamp down all that lovely rage they've built up to a nice frenzied level? They're pumped! Ready to slaughter some filthy kafirs (in the meantime, practising on a few hapless fellow Muslims, who probably just weren't fervent enough).
Afterall, what else do they have to look forward to in their bleak, dismal, pointless lives? Can't sculpt, paint, act, sing, direct, produce, build, design, debate, dream, etc., unless it has something to do with a mosque or some pottery. There's nothing that keeps a jihadi fellow busy & satisfied, like a good bloodletting.
Newsweek, you're just trying to spoil their fun!
Mass grave found in the balkins and they weren't mulsun in those graves OH NO THEY WERE CHRISTANS
BREAKING NEWS???
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
GUESS THE BUG SPRAY WORKED??
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003003.php
August 31, 2004
Sheik: Allah sent giant spiders to combat U.S.
"War is deceit," said the Prophet Muhammad. Evidently, sometimes it's also self-deceit. From WND, with thanks to Ali Dashti:
An Iraqi sheik claims Allah sent giant spiders to the town of Fallujah to help its residents fend off attacks by U.S. military forces.
PSS
Remember it was Russia who tried to tell the west what was going on with the Mulsums killing all the Christians in Serbia?
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of August, 1992, they refer to "the abominable double game of the Muslims that makes the war in Bosnia even more cruel," pointing out that the bread line massacre was committed by the Muslims. Corriere Della Sera says that: "Everything indicates that the defenders of Sarajevo, the Croats • and the Muslims, organised several attacks against their own citizens in the hope that in this way that they are going to deepen the drama of Sarajevo and the blame will only be cast on the Serbs."
THE INTERPRETER: Could the accused please be asked to slow down.
JUDGE MAY: Slow down. Slow down.
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] When we were on good terms, Holbrooke said to me that Izetbegovic managed to play the role of a victim and that he, Holbrooke, called that - I remember his words - "ruthless ingeniosity." However, this not ingenious at all. This is just heartless; sacrificing thousands of his own citizens in order to be able • to accuse the Serbs. I have to rush on. I have a map here. I'll give it to you. Camps for Serbs from 1991 to 1996. They existed at different points in time. Some went on for a longer period of time, some shorter. There were 778 of them altogether; 536 in Bosnia-Herzegovina, 221 in Croatia. And • here is a list of every one of these camps. It includes many pages. There are many crimes that were committed. I won't have time. I won't have time to show this. Many crimes were committed in Croatia before the independence of Croatia was proclaimed, before it was recognised. There is a great number of crimes committed in Bosnia before • the proclamation of independence, before recognition. Please, could you
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just place these two images on the overhead projector -- or three, perhaps. These two, rather. Take a look at this. Please put these two on the overhead projector. I'm not going to put any other pictures on the overhead • projector. These are crimes from the 26th of March, 1992, in Sijekovac. The units crossed the Sava River and slaughtered the Serbs. Please put the big picture on the overhead projector. That's it. That's what they did. That's what the Mujahedin did, the ones we saw yesterday. And we saw Izetbegovic reviewing them • yesterday. What's the matter? Is it not on the screens?
JUDGE MAY: It's on the screen. Do you want the next photograph shown?
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] But I haven't seen it on the screen. • I only see you on the screen.
JUDGE MAY: It's on our screen. Make sure you've got the right button.
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] All right. All right. You don't want to show this. You don't want to show this to the public.
JUDGE MAY: Mr. Milosevic, it is on our screen.
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] It's not on the screens that the public sees. Right. I see it on this screen now. But this internal screen only. So he is holding a head, the head of a Serb that he cut off. So those are the 20.000 Mujahedin that were brought to the European • theatre of war through Clinton's policy, and most of them remained there
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and some went to America and to other countries, and they went all around Europe. And then when they start beheading your own people in wars to come, then you will know what this is all about. There are many photographs of major crimes.
JUDGE MAY: The usher is by the overhead projector. Do you want some other photographs shown to us?
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] I don't have time, Mr. May. I have 12 minutes left --
JUDGE MAY: Very well.
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] -- according to your shortened procedure. But I want to say one thing to you. For example --
JUDGE MAY: Let the usher -- there's no need for the usher to remain there. Give the photographs back, if you would, to Mr. Milosevic.
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] Put the other picture on the ELMO, • please, the one with the three heads. Take a look at this, these three heads of Serbs in an ammunition case. They cut off heads. These are the madmen that are doing things like that. And that is what Clinton's policy in Bosnia did. They were assembled in Bosnia. Look at Algeria, which is a Muslim country. How many Muslims, • Algerians, did they kill so far? This has nothing do with Muslims. These are Islamic fundamentalists who are the enemies of the entire world. Not only of Christians or some others but of Muslims as well. You have --
JUDGE MAY: Now, do you want any other pictures shown?
THE ACCUSED: [Int.] I don't have time, unfortunately,
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for any other pictures, but I do want to say one thing to you, that --
JUDGE MAY: Very well, let the usher take the pictures.
There are many things that are going on that we don’t see or are seeing with a slant our job is to look beyond the slant to see what they[mulsums] don’t want us to see!!
If only Newsweek would report that the REAL story was not that one Koran was flushed down a toilet but that hundreds of Korans were fed to local pigs at Gitmo to save money on shredders.
With a quote like:
"We normally shred Korans after we beat the prisoners with them during interrogation, but, in an effort to comply with Secretary Rumsfeld's new belt-tightening measures," an unnamed senior official at the base was overheard chuckling in a corridor at Guatanamo Bay's detention center, "we here at Gitmo have decided to use the neighborhood feral swine to dispose of these somewhat tattered copies of this thoroughly obnoxious book."
No Koran should have ever been allowed on the island, except for training research by the guards to acquaint them with the mindset of their prisoners.
No prisoners should have been given anything but a firing squad.
Thus: there would be no released jihadists spreading anti-Western rumors, and no stories could come out about 'abuses', since there would be no terrorist scum left alive to abuse.
Preserving these lunatics is a bad plan.
Too much of the current "war on terrorism" is equally absurd, short-sighted, lickspittle, lame, pussyfooting and unproductive of victory.