Web Posting Claims al-Zarqawi Fled Iraq

This just in from AP, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

AMMAN, Jordan - An Islamic Web site statement claimed Wednesday that Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, al-Qaida's point man in Iraq, has fled to a "neighboring country" with two Arab doctors treating him for gunshot wounds to his lung.

The claim's authenticity could not be confirmed. The site used to carry messages from al-Qaida, but has fallen out of use recently. Soon, the statement appeared on another militant site, where other posters quickly denounced it as untrue and unauthorized by the terror group.

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I guess he ain't too anxious to claim his 72 virgins.

OT I just read on Drudge that Italy is bringing charges against an Italian author (living in NY) for "defaming Islam". Folks this is getting serious.

How is it that you can be taken to court over making comments against a group of people that still saw off heads, abuse and kill women, and enslave people?

But Jews and Christians are fair game.

zarqawi found out that the 72 virgins were all hairy gay frenchmen.

so he reconsidered.

"OT I just read on Drudge that Italy is bringing charges against an Italian author (living in NY) for 'defaming Islam'. Folks this is getting serious."

You could have read it right here at Dhimmi Watch yesterday:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006320.php

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Sorry I didn't check dhimmiwatch first.Will do that before I post next time :)

I pray that Zarqawi is suffering. I also pray that the true G-d will remind him of the innocents that he butchered as he is descending to hell. If anyone ever was evil, it is Zarqawi.

Did anyone read this

In the past few weeks, the Arab media have been buzzing with shocking news: the West is engaging in open talks with Islamists. While this is not really unexpected coming from the European Union, which has always been quite appeasing with Islamists, it is all the more surprising coming from the Bush administration.

It all really started with reports in the Arab press of a “secret” meeting in Beirut on March 22 between US officials and representatives of terrorist organizations. In attendance: Musa Abu Marzuk, Sami Kheter and Osama Hamdan from the Palestinian Hamas; Nawaf Mousawi from the Lebanese Hizbullah; Ibrahim al Masri and Assad Harmouche from the Lebanese Gamaa Islamiya; and three representatives from the Pakistani Gamaa Islamiya. Eli Lake from the New York Sun is among the only journalists in the US media who has reported at length about this meeting.

At the same time, the European Union was on the same active path of engaging dialogue. At an EU meeting in Luxembourg on April 16 foreign ministers decided it was high time to get into talks with “moderate” Islamists. They regretted that in the past they only dealt with the seculars in the Middle East.

Finally, some Arab newspapers — including Al Quds al Arabi, TelQuel and At Tajdid — reported that another “secret” meeting occurred between April 17 and 21 in Marrakech, Morocco, between US officials and members of the Islamist opposition, in particular leaders of the Egyptian and Syrian Muslim Brotherhood.

-what are they thinking, this would only be smart if they targeted the building with tomahawk missles after the diplomats left.

Remember this fact: The US invasion and occupation made Al-Zarqawi. He is our own creation...

Shukri say,

"Remember this fact: The US invasion and occupation made Al-Zarqawi. He is our own creation..."

Wrong. al-Zarqawi began his career as a jihadist fighting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Shukri if The US invasion and occupation made Al-Zarqawi. Who made you?

The generosity of al-Zarqawi knows no bounds.

What other proponent (besides bin Laden) of martyrdom would allow today's and tommorrow's shahids to enter, prior to himself, the sensual Paradise promised to all who die fighting for Muhammad, I mean, Allah?

FullofShukri:

Al-Hayat has recently reported the King of Jordan's acknowledgement that he asked Saddam to return Zarqawi to Jordanian custody in 2002 and also published an interview with Iraq's interim premier Ayad Allawi, who confirmed the long-circulated story about about al-Qaeda #2 man Ayman al-Zawahiri's travels to Iraq in 1999 at the invitation of Izza Ibrahim Al-Douri - then deputy head of the council of the leadership of the revolution.

Allawi also confirmed that Abu Nidal didn't die of "natural causes" but rather was put to death for refusing to cooperate with the Islamists meeting under Saddam's auspices.

al-Zarqawi began his career as a jihadist fighting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Despite that, without the US invasion, Zarqawi would be a non-entity.

Shukri if The US invasion and occupation made Al-Zarqawi. Who made you?

God made me, you and every other created thing in existence. However, I was referring to position...Zarqawi's position was made by the US, his current notoriety is essentially a US creation.

also published an interview with Iraq's interim premier Ayad Allawi, who confirmed...

You do know that Ayad Allawi, former Baathist Regime spy in Brtain, was afterwards a CIA/MI6 spook? In other words, he says whatever his masters want him to say...

Wrong. al-Zarqawi began his career as a jihadist fighting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.


Um... I hate to have to agree with Shukri, but this only validates what he said, that Zaqarwi was made by the US. "We" funded the mujahadin in Afghanistan very generously back in the eighties.

It's called "blowback" people. Noriega, Saddam, Osama, Chalabi, Zarqawi...who's next?

Shukri says,

"Zarqawi's position was made by the US, his current notoriety is essentially a US creation."

It almost seems that you are saying that there is no personal responsibility or accountability for one's actions vis a vis jihadist warfare.

If it is for the benefit of Muhammad, I mean, Allah, then the means justifies the end, right?

To what end though? Al-Zarqawi and his fellow jihadists have killed far more muslims than infidels.

The presumption that these victims are necessary to continue jihad is astounding. And, your legitimizing Al-Zarqawi's "position" by blaming the US probably won't give too much comfort to the victims families.

Or maybe it does? Much better to blame the infidel for the acts of a jihad "warrior".

You see, way back when, a certain senile old historical figure decided that NOTHING was worse than communism*, not even radical Islam. So if any nazi, tyrant, dictator, or jihadi needed money, all he had to do was fight communism, or pretend to, and he'd get all the money he needed from Uncle Sucker.

(Except the Chine$e of cour$e.)

kj,

What I was saying was Al-Zarqawi had jihad experience prior to Iraq. The USA may have helped fund these "freedom fighters", but the jihad spirit for Al-Zarqawi began with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, probably even earlier.

His "fervor" was not created by the US, but by the ridiculous "religious" ideals that were chalked onto his blank slate when a child.

It almost seems that you are saying that there is no personal responsibility or accountability for one's actions vis a vis jihadist warfare.

There is definitely personal responsibility and accountability. But the instigator also shares that responsibility.

What I'm saying is that events are repeatedly blamed solely on identified "terrorists" in Iraq. My point is that the Invading Occupier also shares responsibility for the terrorism and murders currently occuring under its watch since it is the instigator and without it's actions, these attacks would never have occured.

Al-Zarqawi and his fellow jihadists have killed far more muslims than infidels.

Great. Reminds me of another certain Iraqi. A guy that killed Iranians, Kuwaitis, and Kurds. A guy that threatened Saudi Arabia with invasion, DID invade Kuwait, and killed 1,000,000 Iranians. Sometimes he actually used POISONOUS GAS to kill.

But you know what? He only killed Muslims. Whew! Good thing "we" stopped him. I feel safer already.

kj~ that gentleman's senility came Loooong after his stint in office. And his work against Communism was preceeded by:

Carter
Ford
Nixon
Johnson
Kennedy
Eisenhour
Truman

btw, one (socialist) site I was just looking at, tries to claim JFK brought us closer to annihilation than anyone else. I think JFK did a Great amount of good for this country (including the biggest tax cut in history, as a % of the budget of the day). But it is clear that we have 40 years worth of our presidents fighting communism, so why single out the one who brought down the Soviet Union? (whether you agree with that last line or not). Also, why is it easier to blame Reagan, when the Ayatollahs in Iran and the Immams in SA had already been working on the likes of Al-Zarqawi for years, and in some cases decades?

Shukri says,

"...the terrorism and murders currently occuring under its watch since it is the instigator and without it's actions, these attacks would never have occured."

And how do you account for all the jihadist activity which occurs outside of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Or the jihads which were instigated by muslims for 1100 years prior to the USA being conceived?

Islam and muslims are not the innocent victims, but playing that role has become a true Islamic artform.

kj,

You fail to remember that you and I are on the same side. I will not allow myself to digress from the topic at hand.

Thank you.

It always amazes me how the leaders of the Islamists pull themselves from harmsway or don't go there at all like the Palestinian clerics and Muslims clerics who live high and send the sons and daughters of their mosques to suicides and death. OBL ran from Tora Bora and left his minions to die. This guy ran from that Iraq city during the huge attack and left his minions to die. Now he leaves his minions to die again. But they are still loyal to the ones who abandon them--who urge them to die---and then when faced with death themselves...run like cowards. I wonder why Muslims continue like lemmings to their deaths while their clerics and leaders live on...their lives and children intact...and never once say to themselves---what's wrong with this picture---if the dying or suicide is so great why haven't our leaders done it?

shukri-

What percentage responsibility does the US hold for let's say, a Zarqawi directed car bomb? Is it somewhere around 1-5% or more? Please give me your figure.

If all Zarqawi wants is the US out of Iraq, then he is not a very smart man. Everyone knows we would be out of there now but, uhh, things keep exploding in crowded places, and please tell us how the US is responsible for those explosions. Zarqawi and his ilk could have done nothing. Sat and waited until we left. And that was stated that we did not want to occupy Iraq and why would we want to? Now Zarqawi is killing anything that is not in agreement with him. Wouldn't it have been easier for him to do nothing and wave to the American troops as they left? Leave Iraq for Iraqis? Then as a people they could sit down and decide how to run things. You know some form of democracy. A government of the people, by the people. Oh, dang, who the hell would not want that?

May 25, 2005

http://www.beecy.net/frank/
Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the people of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the people of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease. And for those to whom the Scripture Book has been given, and the believers, there should be no doubt. The unbelievers may say, ‘What does the Lord intend by this?’ The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases, and He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
This can be broken by Yes it is the Army of the people of the Book who he has chosen to Free [USA] the Iraqi people as it says
He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”
Yes he has chosen the USA!!
TO FREE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM THE MONSTER saddam [FOUND IN A HOLE DON’T SHOOT I’M A YELLOW COWARD]
And let’s look at another part?
The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases,
Ubl,saddam,zawari,all who Kill and destroy mankind?
There will be no more warnings?
Earthquake in Iran kills 31,000 who harbors ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] son and wife’s??
And now Locus in Egypt
NOW IF THAT IS NOT TELLING YOU ARE ON THE WRONG PATH NOTHING WILL??
Kazakhstan Blast in mine??
Islamic terrorist- killing Iraqis??
Earthquake in Algeria??
The typhoon in Philippines Remember they ran away from the Fight in Iraq??
http://www.onlypunjab.com/fullstory1104-insight-Pink+Locusts+from+North+Africa-status-15-newsID-503.html
Pink Locusts from North Africa Swarm Through Cairo
Publish Date : 11/18/2004 5:09:00 PM Source : Science and Technology News Onlypunjab.com
Swarms of pink locusts swept through the Egyptian capital on Wednesday, evoking the biblical description of the plagues which struck in the time of Moses.
The swarms of millions flew high above tall towers or swooped down onto treelined streets, where scared pedestrians stamped
on them or ran for cover.
The flying insects arrived from neighboring Libya after devouring the countryside in central and western Africa in past months.
YES I SAY ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] is losing and trying to regain control??
What verses did he say in his rambling and to say about the people of the book??
The people of
the book didn’t lose their crops??
Now Earthquake of mulsum Islands of Indonesia?? 9.3 and afterwards mass killer waves that effect many countries?/
Who is coming to the aid of the people But the Red Cross and India to help the people and Israel and the USA and the Western countries!!
210,000, mulsum killed in Indonesia alone?? Whole mulsum towns gone?? And Churches still standing??
We are waiting for the mulsums to help other mulsums?? Or with the entire fund raising they do help people instead of making war??
And now more 6.2 earthquakes in Indonesia?? Because they have sent Islamic terrorist to terrorize the victims of the killer wave??
January 11, 2005 Philippines an 4.3 Earthquake ??
Maybe small there because the fight against Islamic Terrorist??
Was ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] family in Indonesia we know they support Islamic Terrorist??
January 23 6.3 Earthquake in Indonesia??
AND THE LATES FOR THE FOLLOWERS OF THE CURSED??
http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=NL712421F&news_headline=abu_hamza_covered_in_scabs
Since then, he has been charged in the UK with 16 offences including soliciting others to murder non-believers, racial hatred and possessing a document liable to help terrorists.

Hook-handed cleric Abu Hamza is covered from head to foot in scabs because he has an ailment that makes his skin bleed.
One theory is that he could have psioriasis, which results in flakes falling from crusty red patches on the skin.

NOW IF THIS AINT TELLING YOU SOMETHING??
I hear that extra guards have been posted on the Grapevine raisins??
sympathy?
We need to learn and keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
President Bush goes to 1st hydro station in DC watches car being filled!!! Cost more than gas BUT gives FREEDOM from foreign sources of oil and that gizzi tax!!! I will gladly pay more!!! For FREEDOM!!!

Happy hour in Britain is over?? Seams bars open 24/7 was just a way to get voted in???

Have your Congressmen vote for the Norwood Amendment if you want your cities safe from Illegal‘s!!
Guy who raped the little girl and threw her in the trash [was saved by the police] turns out was an illegal???

Car bomb in Spain?? Guess this means appeasement JUST DON’T WORK!!

MEAN WHILE UN=LON=AL is up t their crap!! Got misty international to say America and Israel are bad? BUT said nothing about the UN=LON=AL raping women and children or the French killing all those unarmed Christians in the Ivory Coast or the sexual exploits of the mulsum countries??

If you look at the RINO McCain obstruction? First won! You ask how so well McCain had 7 but First had 48[and I gave money not to McCain but First and Bush today]!!!! What is RINO McCain’s Agenda? Could this be it he is trying to bring down the Republicans to get Democrats in the lead so he can change party’s! To run for President on the Democrats ticket?? He has already lost to get the nominee on the Republican ticket?? McCain’s slammed the republican Base in 2000 in South Carolina and Gram should be ashamed!! We expect this from McCain he has played the sore loser ever since BUT GRAM SHAME!!!


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/31/93900.shtml
Critics Pressure Mexican Federal Prosecutor
NewsMax.com Wires
Monday, Jan. 31, 2005
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico -- The prosecutor assigned by Mexico's attorney general to investigate the slayings of hundreds of women in this border city has failed to bring the true culprits to justice despite recent convictions, victims' relatives say.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/30/164128.shtml
The State Department issued the travel alert last week, telling Americans that violent crime, including murder and kidnapping, had increased along the Mexican side of the border.

http://www.latinodawah.org/
Latino American Dawah Organization
Latino American Dawah Organization(LADO) is a nonprofit organization that was founded in 1997 by a handful of converts to Islam. Our mission is to promote Islam among the Latino community within the United States. We also educate Latinos and others about the legacy of Islam in Spain and Latin America and provide free information about Islam to all interested parties. Alhamdulillah (All praise is due to God), many Latinos are embracing Islam. Some feel that they are reclaiming their Islamic heritage.

What is Islam? Who is a Muslim?
Members don't create opportunities for LADO. Members create opportunities for Allah. Miembros no crean las oportunidades para LADO. Miembros crean las oportunidades para Allah.

"¡Puro Latino! ¡Puro Islam! ¡A su LADO!"
For all your burning questions...
Call 1-877-WhyIslam
Sí, hablan español
http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
A Letter From Osama bin Laden to the American People
released to press 11-17-2002 or thereabouts

Why teaching the truth about history is so important??

http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Jihad against Jews and Crusaders
issued by The World Islamic Front, Feb 23, 1998


http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Declaration of War on America
August 23, 1996 Hindukush Mountains, Khurasan, Afghanistan
By Usama Bin Laden

WHAT WERE OUR CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT CLINTON DOING WHEN THIS MONSTER DECLAIRED WAR ON THE USA??

THAT IS NOW OLD NEWS TIME TO MOVE ON AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THIS WAR THAT HAS BEEN DECLAIRED ON THE USA!!

TIME TO FIGHT FOR SHORT SKIRTS AND BEER AND WINE!!

THIS MONSTER[which I think is changed his sex??] HAS HIS ARMYS LOBBING OUR GOVERNMENT THEY HAD BETTER STAND UP FOR AMERICA THE STAKES ARE TO HIGH FFOR THEIR SILLY GAMES!!

WHAT WAS IT SEN. FIENSTIEN SAID 44,000 OTM’S WELL SEN. THAT IS JUST WHAT WAS CAUGHT??

THEIR ARMYS HAVE BEEN LET IN BY THE LAW MAKERS BECAUSE THEY WERE PLAYING GAMES !

AGAIN MEAN WHILE McCain IS WORRIED ABOUT BASEBALL WHILE HIS STATE IS BEING INVADED!!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY[FREEDOM] TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM AMEN

NOW WHY DID THE FAT BOY RUN AWAY??

CAUSE HE WAS NEVER THERE THE BORDER IS CLOSED AND HIS MEN ARE SUNDRENERING LIKE THE YELLOW COWARD BULLIES ALWAYS DO WHEN GOOD MEN STAND UP AND FIGHT THE BULLIES FALL!!!!

NOW WHERE OH WHERE COULD HE BE I THINK SYIRA!! LIKE ALL saddam[yellow coward found in a hole don't shoot i'am a yellow coward] MINNIONS RAN TO SYIRA SO DID THIS MONSTER!!

Just a reminder??
http://www.robesus.com/usanthem.html
Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wiped out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
YES THIS IS WHAT AMERICA IS MADE OF!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER[IRAQIS TOO] GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO VICTORY TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THEM AMEN


PS
MORE ISLAMIC TERRORIST DEAD TODAY!!!

And how do you account for all the jihadist activity which occurs outside of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Whether they occured outside the Invaded & Occupied country is irrelevant. The fact is that their motivation is the Occupation. For instance, the attacks against Spain were because of their collaboration with the Invading Occupiers of Iraq.

What percentage responsibility does the US hold for let's say, a Zarqawi directed car bomb? Is it somewhere around 1-5% or more? Please give me your figure.

Since Zarqawi & Co. apparently carries out the attacks, they have 100% responsibility on their side. But then again, without the US invasion, there would be no car bomb attack, so my tentative conclusion is that both are 100% responsible due to their respective roles in bringing about a car bomb attack.

And that was stated that we did not want to occupy Iraq and why would we want to?

I dunno. Maybe the solution lies in the $8.8 Billion of Iraq's oil sales revenue that has unfortunately gone missing.

Shukri says,

"Whether they occured outside the Invaded & Occupied country is irrelevant."

It may be irrelevant to you, but it is not irrelevant to the victims of jihad doctrine.

"The fact is that their motivation is the Occupation."

Incorrect. Jihad warfare is Muhammad's dictate. It is part of Islam and you know that.

"...the attacks against Spain..."

Were just that. Attacks. Attacks which were soft and easy to carry out. The jihadists want Spain back and you know that too.

Incorrect. Jihad warfare is Muhammad's dictate. It is part of Islam and you know that.

Nose to ground, ass in the air 5x/day isn't enough. Islam loses it's grip on the illiterate masses when there is no warfare and conflict. The benighted masses must be kept agitated for the Mullahs to spread their lies about non Muslims

Hi Geoff,

Come over to FFI when you're free.

Regards

ia786

While the Islamic idiots are on the rampage what do our left wing liberal groups do? Take Amnesty International that says Gitmo is the modern day gulag. Who is AI anyway? It’s just a despicable collection of radical left wing lowlifes that do nothing to help solve the Islamic threat and actually undermine our efforts.

AI, like the lying larvae lickers of the ACLU, the anti-everything propaganda pukes of PETA, the excrement intoxicated environmental extremists like Al Gore and all the other whining wankers of left wing radical groups like the homosexual mafia etc, that say America is the cause of all the worlds problems are another front we have to fight on the wot. Time to shut down every one of these groups and get muslims, illegal immigrants out and seal the borders.

"Whether they occured outside the Invaded & Occupied country is irrelevant."
It may be irrelevant to you, but it is not irrelevant to the victims of jihad doctrine.

My point is basically that terrorist attacks are the results of Invasion & Occupation, whether they occur in the Occupied Country or anywhere else.

"The fact is that their motivation is the Occupation."
Incorrect. Jihad warfare is Muhammad's dictate. It is part of Islam and you know that.

You are an intelligent person. Surely you can see that no terrorist has ever claimed to be acting purely on the instruction of Islam. They have all said that their war is due to the Invasions and Occupations of Muslim lands. See bin Laden as an example.

"...the attacks against Spain..."
Were just that. Attacks. Attacks which were soft and easy to carry out. The jihadists want Spain back and you know that too.

I'm sorry but the facts contradict you. The people responsible for the vile terrorist attacks in Spain stated that Spain had "saved itself" from further attacks by ceasing to be party to the US Occupation of Iraq.

Sincerely,

Yes Shukri if history has taught us one thing it's that appeasing terrorism is a winning strategy

/Moonbat logic off

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/zarq052505b.asp
The Status of Al Zarqawi – Clues to His Status in the Battle of Uhud?
I THINK THEY GOT IT WRONG HIS PEOPLE ARE LEAVING AND NOT WILLING TO DIE FOR HIM AND SEE THE CURSE YES THE YELLOW CURSE THESE MONSTERS HAVE BROUGHT???

Cow, verse 140
OR do you claim that Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and their off spring were Jews and Christians say:” have you more knowledge than god?” who is wicked then he who conceals the testimony he received from god? God is not unaware of all you do.

OH but What is the truth??

More and More I believe!!
Genesis Chapter 16
9] and the angle of the LORD said to her “ Go back to your mistress, and submit to her harsh treatment” 10] and the angle of the LORD said to her “I will greatly increase your offspring/ and they shall be too many to count” 11] the angle of the LORD said to her further,” behold you are with child/ and shall bear a son;/ you shall call him Ishmael./ For the LORD has paid head to your suffering./ 12] he shall be a wild ass of a man;/ his hand against everyone,/ and everyone’s hand against him;/ he shall dwell alongside of all his kinsmen” 13] and she called the LORD who spoke to her, “ you are EL-roi” by which she meant. “Have I not gone on seeing after he saw me!” 14] Therefore the well was called Beer-lahai-roi; it is between Kadesh and Bered.-

YES AN WILD ASS OF A MAN WHO IS AGAINST EVERYONE????

THE FAT BOY IS NOT TALKING ABOUT HIM SELF HE IS TALKING ABOUT ubl[yellow coward who runs away] THE FAT BOY IS LOOSING HIS LEADER TO THE YELLOW CURSE ?? WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK IT IS NO IT WAS NOT RECIVED ON THE BATTLE FIELD BUT THE YELLOW CURSE!!!!

OH I BELIEVE THE WILD ASS OF A MAN HIS HAND AGAINST EVERY ONE!!!

THE FAT BOYS FOLLOWERS DO NOT WANT TO DIE FOR HIM LOOK AT HOW THEY SURRENDER!!! WHAT WAS IT YESTERDAY 366??

SO WE KNOW THEY WORSHIP ISMEAL

I LIKE THIS OUT OF TH qu-ran!!!

http://www.beecy.net/frank/

Qur’an 74:31 “We have appointed nineteen angels to be the wardens of the Hell Fire. We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve and We have fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers in order that the people of the Book may arrive with certainty, and that no doubts may be left for the people of the Book, those in whose hearts is a disease. And for those to whom the Scripture Book has been given, and the believers, there should be no doubt. The unbelievers may say, ‘What does the Lord intend by this?’ The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases, and He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”

This can be broken by Yes it is the Army of the people of the Book who he has chosen to Free [USA] the Iraqi people as it says

He will guide whomever He pleases: and none can know the armies of your Lord except He, and this is no other than a warning to mankind.”

Yes he has chosen the USA!!

TO FREE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FROM THE MONSTER saddam [FOUND IN A HOLE DON’T SHOOT I’M A YELLOW COWARD]

And let’s look at another part?

The Lord will lead astray whomever He pleases,
Ubl,saddam,zawari,all who Kill and destroy mankind?

There will be no more warnings?

Earthquake in Iran kills 31,000 who harbors ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] son and wife’s??

And now Locus in Egypt

NOW IF THAT IS NOT TELLING YOU ARE ON THE WRONG PATH NOTHING WILL??

Kazakhstan Blast in mine??

Islamic terrorist- killing Iraqis??

Earthquake in Algeria??

The typhoon in Philippines Remember they ran away from the Fight in Iraq??

http://www.onlypunjab.com/fullstory1104-insight-Pink+Locusts+from+North+Africa-status-15-newsID-503.html
Pink Locusts from North Africa Swarm Through Cairo
Publish Date : 11/18/2004 5:09:00 PM Source : Science and Technology News Onlypunjab.com
Swarms of pink locusts swept through the Egyptian capital on Wednesday, evoking the biblical description of the plagues which struck in the time of Moses.
The swarms of millions flew high above tall towers or swooped down onto treelined streets, where scared pedestrians stamped
on them or ran for cover.
The flying insects arrived from neighboring Libya after devouring the countryside in central and western Africa in past months.

YES I SAY ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] is losing and trying to regain control??
What verses did he say in his rambling and to say about the people of the book??

The people of
the book didn’t lose their crops??

Now Earthquake of mulsum Islands of Indonesia?? 9.3 and afterwards mass killer waves that effect many countries?/

Who is coming to the aid of the people But the Red Cross and India to help the people and Israel and the USA and the Western countries!!
210,000, mulsum killed in Indonesia alone?? Whole mulsum towns gone?? And Churches still standing??

We are waiting for the mulsums to help other mulsums?? Or with the entire fund raising they do help people instead of making war??
And now more 6.2 earthquakes in Indonesia?? Because they have sent Islamic terrorist to terrorize the victims of the killer wave??

January 11, 2005 Philippines an 4.3 Earthquake ??
Maybe small there because the fight against Islamic Terrorist??

Was ubls[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] family in Indonesia we know they support Islamic Terrorist??

January 23 6.3 Earthquake in Indonesia??

AND THE LATES FOR THE FOLLOWERS OF THE CURSED??
http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=NL712421F&news_headline=abu_hamza_covered_in_scabs
Since then, he has been charged in the UK with 16 offences including soliciting others to murder non-believers, racial hatred and possessing a document liable to help terrorists.

Hook-handed cleric Abu Hamza is covered from head to foot in scabs because he has an ailment that makes his skin bleed.
One theory is that he could have psioriasis, which results in flakes falling from crusty red patches on the skin.

NOW IF THIS AINT TELLING YOU SOMETHING??

I hear that extra guards have been posted on the Grapevine raisins??

Qur’an 8:71 “If they try to deceive you,
remember they have deceived Allah before.”

It is not America who is the Deceiver but the Islamic Terrorist Look at what God has done to his Followers Look at Bam, Indoneias, Iraq [NOW HA RUNNING WATER IN HOMES FOR THE FRIST TIME IN HISTORY THANKS TO THE USA NOT sader], Africa [MULSUMS KILLING MULSUMS] no these Islamic terrorist are the deceivers!!!

Qur’an 8:49 “When the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is a disease said: ‘The religion has deceived and misled them.’”

I think this fits for the Islamic terrorist who make war on the people look what ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] saddam[FOUND IN A HOLE DON’T SHOOT I’M A YELLOW COWARD] has brought to the people sader[YELLOW COWARD WHO KILLS MEN IN THEIR HOLY MOSQUE] all have brought death and destruction to the people not life and joy no these who follow the lies like out of newsweek aljerreza will all head for death and the yellow cuse!!

LOOK AT WHAT THESE HYPOCRATES HAVE BROUGHT TO THE FOLLOWERS A YELLOW CURSE!!

http://www.beecy.net/frank/

Polio is spreading in Yemen is this not where the monster ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY]he now brings plagues on the people he has brought the wrath of God on mulsums because of their killing and hate? When will the mulsum world see this curse on their heads for following these monsters??

When God lead the Children of Israel out of Egypt out of Bondage from slavery Egypt felt that wrath now because they follow the hate again we see in mulsum lands FLOODS, EARTHQUAKES, LOCUS, SICKNESS how much will they have to suffer because they are following MONSTERS down the wrong path to want the death of Jews and Christians and others??

IS ANYONE REALY SURPRISED?? If you know about the Torah or the Bible then you would understand they worship Ishmael and what it says about him will be an ass of a man his hand against every one!!

The Arabians were for centuries governed by the descendants of Joktan, who peopled the south-west of Arabia. Yarab one of the sons of Joktan founded the kingdom of Yaman, in which was also the kingdom of Sheba, whose Queen afterwards visited King Solomon. The Kingdom of Yaman was the most powerful state of all Arabia. [NOW

THERE IS A plagues on the children who is from there? ubl [YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY]
Jorahan another son of Joktan founded the kingdom of Hedjaz which became the thereafter became the most import in all Arabia for its possession of the holy places of Mecca and Medina, and is called the holy land of Arabia
The Arabs originally acknowledged the Existence of one Supreme God, Creator of the Universe, whom they called allah taala, the most high god.
Their religion soon lost its earliest monotheism, and degenerated into gross idolatry, fetichism, animal worship and star worship. They frist of all adopted Sabeanism or worship of the hosts of heaven.
It is said that the ancient Arabs had 7 celebrated temples decated to the 7 plantes. Very soon, however, the star worship became greatly corrupted and other deities, superstitious and idolatrous practices were introduced.
From their pagan neighbors they adopted the doctrine of the abodes or haunts of gods: marked them out as sacred territories by pillars, and within which bloodshed, cutting of trees, and killing game was forbidden, and within such enclosures the blood of sacrifices was smeared on sacred stones, and gifts were hung up on trees. This is the origin of the Haramain or sacred territory around Mecca and Medina. Everywhere in Arabia there were wells, pillars, and heaps of stones, where the Arab devotees congregated to obtain special blessings. Sacrifices were common, but not by fire. The blood of the sacrifices was smeared over the rude stone altars, and the flesh was eaten by the worshipers.
They also worshiped idols, ten of whom are mentioned by name in the qu-ran.
Al Uzza identified with planet Venus, and worshiped at times under the form of an acacia tree: and Manat a huge stone worshiped as an altar by several tribes. The Arabs also worshiped angels, whom they called female gods and the daughters of god. They imagined that these images of angles were animated by them and were intercessors with god for man. The most celebrated and central object of arab worship however was the blackstone of Mecca set in the corner of a square building called the Kaaba, in which also are placed the images of Abraham and Ismael each carrying in their hands divine arrows.

SO WHEN THE GO AROUND AND AROUND THEY WORSHIP ISMAEL KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT HIM??

Further they say that Mecca stands on the spot exactly beneath God’s throne in heaven. The present Kaaba they say was built by Abraham and his son Ismael and the black stone which had been missing, was shewn to Ismael by the angel Gabriel, and it was used as a corner stone for the building of the kaaba.
The Jews who had fled in great numbers into Arabia from the fearful destruction of their country by the Romans, had introduced Jewish religion among several of the tribes. Christianity like wise had made great progress among this nation before the birth of Mo-Ham-Od
The multiplicity and variety of so many religions and religious ideas and practices not infrequently conflicting with one another had already produced in the minds of these people necessity of finding a religion that would be re-conciliatory, and that could be adaped to the nature of people and thus the path was layed open to the new religion called Hanifs, which was introduced just before the birth of Mo-Ham-Od. These Hanifs were a small number of Arabs, who worshiped only allah, rejecting polytheism, and sought FREEDOM from sin and resignation to Gods will. Thus was we see Hanifism was only a step to islam, and such was the state of religion in Arabia before the time of Mo-Ham-Od.
OF COURSE THEN HE BROUGHT RAPE KILLING STEALING AND LETS NOT FORGET LIEING ALL FOR HIS CAUSE??? SAD SAD!! Most muslims have taken what was before which was good and get it mixed up with Mo-Ham-Ods stuff???

Some by me and the rest by Rev.J.L.Menezes written in 1912??

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Shukri says,

"Surely you can see..."

I did not expect much more than the impasse we have both encountered.

It might be prudent for the both of us to admit that we shall agree to disagree.

Regards,

Yes Shukri if history has taught us one thing it's that appeasing terrorism is a winning strategy

Sorry this is not appeasing terrorism. Terrorists should be brought to justice for their crimes and Spain has arrested those allegedly responsible.

But vigilante extremists should not prevent one from doing the right thing. If I am in the wrong about something and someone unjustly attacks my family because of that wrong, that does not mean the attacker should not be punished but it does not mean that I should go on doing wrong either.

Peace,

It might be prudent for the both of us to admit that we shall agree to disagree.

Let us then agree to disagree. =) By the way, thank you for your professionalism in debate. I truly appreciate that.

Peace,

Uh, Shukri-

You missed a very important point. The US was ASKED by the duly elected government of Iraq to stay.

Therefore, Zarqawi is ignoring the legimately expressed wishes of the Iraqi people, in addition to murdering them. The argument that it is an occupation is no longer valid.

Why aren't YOU standing with the people who endured so much, but still had the courage to try and vote themselves a better future? Why are YOU undermining their efforts by even suggesting that Zarqawi is legitimate?

**The people who live in darkness have seen a great light**


Here is an excerpt from the World Economic Summit in Jordan. It contains comments from the new Iraqi government. They seem to be quite happy about their new status.

Zebari leads off the Iraq panel with a speech making the salient points: It has been only eleven months since Washington transferred sovereignty to the Iraqis themselves — Iraq is not an occupied nation, but “an emerging democracy.” Last Jan. 30, “millions of citizens defied terror and death” to cast their ballots. The people are “hungry for democratic progress.” Unfortunately — and outrageously — “the insurgency persists,” as “Saddamites and foreign fighters” attempt to “foment civil war, undermine democracy, spread terror, and destroy our vision.” But Iraqis “will not have their future dictated by the atrocities of a few.”

He makes a smart reference to “the headlines,” which emphasize trouble over opportunity and gains. He talks of making every effort to involve Sunnis — who have been reluctant — in the political process. And he says that the country is “not ready to be self-reliant,” is not yet prepared for the U.S. and its allies to go. But the faster Iraq succeeds politically, “the sooner multinational forces can go home.”

Zebari decries “public agitation against democracy in the mosques and the media,” and says that Iraq “deserves respect from Arab and Islamic countries.” What’s more, a free, self-governed Iraq is realizable, and taking shape before our eyes: It is not “an intangible ideal.”

Next to speak is Hassani, the parliamentary head. He says that he agrees with everything Zebari has said, except for one point: “And we can disagree. This is the new Iraq, a democracy!” (Zebari said that Sunnis chose not to participate in the Jan. 30 elections, and Hassani insists that this was not voluntary, but a result of violence in Sunni areas.) Hassani explains that terrorists have infiltrated Iraq from neighboring countries. “I’m not saying that there are no Iraqis” in the insurgency, “but the majority of the car bombs” and other such acts “are done by foreign terrorists.” He criticizes some U.S. policies of the past: He says that de-Baathification was badly implemented, and that it was wrong to dissolve Iraqi security forces — they have had to start from scratch.

But “we are building a new republic, which is actually Iraq’s second republic.” (I can’t help thinking of that magazine, in Washington: If they want to know what a real new republic looks like, they should turn to Iraq.)

Not for the first time, I am struck by the bravery, wit, and determination of these Iraqi officials. As I learn throughout the conference, they all speak of “the change” — that’s their name for what has occurred in Iraq since March 2003: “the change.” And a beautiful phrase it is, here.

I would encourage you, too, not to treat lightly that little joke about disagreeing: The parliamentary speaker and the foreign minister disagree. In an Arab country, this is no common occurrence. The Iraqi situation should not be taken for granted, or minimized.

After all the panelists have spoken, there is a short period left for questions from the audience — about eight minutes. And who should dominate this period but Amr Moussa, the secretary-general of the Arab League. He is sitting in the middle of the first row. Even more than Brahimi, Moussa is the personification of the Old Guard, whose world is starting to crumble. And this panel has obviously gotten his goat.

Moussa turns to the Iraqis, to hector them about the Sunnis: Why are they not participating in the government, why have you left them out of the process, what are you doing to mollify them? His point seems to be that the government can’t be legitimate if the Sunnis are unhappy.

You have to understand something that I discovered at this conference: The Sunni minority in Iraq is the most important group in the world. No other minority in any other Arab country is given the time of day. And what Arab governments treat their minorities with exemplary republicanism? No, the Iraqi Sunnis are the only minority that matters. In the long, nightmare decades of Saddam — the torture and mass-grave decades — did Moussa and the Arab League care about the Kurds, the Christians, the others?

Hajim al-Hassani is the first to answer Moussa, and he actually agrees that the government should be doing more to “reach out” to the Sunnis. He then confesses that he himself is Sunni — but he doesn’t think Iraqis should give such designations, because “we should all be Iraqis, without adherence to sect or ethnicity.” There is a statement of true Arab liberalism.

And I can’t help thinking: If a Sunni is speaker of the parliament, how shut out, or disdained, can Sunnis be?

It is utterly clear to me that Iraqis, today, are like the Israelis: They are held to a higher standard than anyone else in the region. The whole Middle East swims in tyranny and autocracy. But Iraq is scrutinized for democratic perfection. They must dot every “i” and cross every “t.” They’d better get used to it — and they are, it seems.

I should note here that I have not attempted a comprehensive report, even a full summary, of this session, as I won’t of others. I have jotted down some points I regard as significant, or at least interesting.

An insurgency cannot exist without popular support. The "duly elected government" of Iraq is essentially a sham.

A government created under Occupation is a sham government beholden to the Occupier. Hence, they have little legitimacy and most certainly they have no right to invite the Occupying Thieves to continue to loot and plunder.

Posted by: treehugger at May 25, 2005 07:55 PM

A Gold Star for you Today!!

Job well done!!

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Shukri says,

"An insurgency cannot exist without popular support."

I must continue with this debate because I totally disagree with you on this statement.

How many people live in Iraq? Twenty to twenty-five million? Is that a fair estimate?

If it is and if what you say, "An insurgency cannot exist without popular support."..., is true, then the VAST majority, not twenty million, let us say ten million, could easily end the USA occupation.

The "popular support" of which you speak is a muslim minority which supports jihad.

NOTICE

To all good citiziens of Japan, Germany, Italy and S. Korea:

Notice is hereby given to all citizens of the aforementioned countries that your representative form of elected government is a progeny of a foreign occupying power and therefore is a sham and has no legitimacy. You may now commence with vigilantism and insurrectionism at will. Please see Shukri to obtain specific instructions regarding the proper ettiquette and protocol for raping, pillaging, plundering, looting, mayhem and murder. Have fun.

Shuggi:

"Occupying thieves"- that's what I call the Mohammedan Invasion of Western countries. I will do whatever is necessary to reverse the trend.

Hopefully, right after lung surgery in Damascus, as Zarqawi is being led outside to his SUV, to be driven to his new Baathist hideout, a passing mule rears up and kicks him in the head -and kills this worthless scumbag.

And then a passing pig pisses on the corpse.

Sic semper nihillus.

Posted by: Lisa at May 25, 2005 10:51 PM

ROTFL!! ROTFL!!

Gold Star for you Today!!!

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Qur’an 9:75 “Amongst them are men who made a deal with Allah, that if He bestowed on them of His bounty [booty], they would pay (largely) in zakat tax (for Allah’s Cause [Jihad]). But when He did bestow of His bounty, they became niggardly, and turned back (from their bargain), averse (refusing to pay).”

WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT NOT ABOUT MONEY??

Bukhari:V4B53N376 “While Allah’s Apostle was accompanied by the people on their way back from Hunayn, the Bedouins started begging for things so aggressively that they forced him to go under a Samura tree where his outer garment was snatched away. On that, Allah’s Apostle stood up and said, ‘Return my clothes. If I had as many camels as these trees, I would have distributed them amongst you; and you will not find me a miser.’”

SO IT IS ABOUT MONEY??

Bukhari:V4B53N377 “While I was walking with the Prophet he was wearing a Najrani outer garment with a thick hem. A Bedouin came upon him and pulled his garment so violently that I could see the imprint of the hem on his shoulder caused by the violence of his pull. The Bedouin said, ‘Give me something from Allah’s Fortune which you have.’ The Prophet turned, smiled, and ordered that a gift should be given.”

SO IT WAS ABOUT MONEY!!

Bukhari:V4B53N375 “When Allah favored His Apostle with the properties of the Hawazin tribe as Fai booty, he started giving to some of the Meccan men up to one-hundred camels each. Whereupon some Ansari said, ‘May Allah forgive His Apostle! He is giving to the Quraysh and leaving us out, in spite of the fact that our swords are still dripping with the blood of the infidels.’ When Muhammad was informed of what they had said, he called for the Ansar and gathered them in a leather tent. ‘What is the statement which I have been informed?’ The smart ones replied, ‘O Allah’s Apostle! The wise ones did not say anything, but the youngsters said, “May Allah forgive His Apostle; he enriches the Quraysh and leaves the Ansar poor, in spite of the fact that Ansar swords are still dribbling with the blood of the infidels.”’ The Prophet replied, ‘I give them more because they are still close to the period of Infidelity and have just recently embraced Islam. You should be pleased to see them becoming rich.’”


PAID ASSISIONS??

Tabari IX:36/Ishaq:596 “‘Prophet, this group of Ansar have a grudge against you for what you did with the booty and how you divided it among your own people.’ ‘Ansar, what is this talk I hear from you? What is the grudge you harbor? Do you think ill of me? Did I not come to you when you were erring and needy, and then made rich by Allah? Do you hold a grudge against me and are you mentally disturbed because of the worldly things by which I conciliate a people and win them over so that they will embrace Islam and become Muslims?”

SO FOR MY GREED IF I TELL YOU TO EAT DOG SHIT YOU HAD BETTER

Tabari IX:79 “In this year the zakat was made obligatory, and the Messenger dispatched his agents to collect it. The verse was revealed: ‘Take the zakat from their wealth to purify them.’”

THE UN TAX GET US OUT OF THE UN STOP FEEDING THE EVIL FOLLOWERS!!

Tabari IX:86 “He orders you to give one fifth of Allah’s booty and pay the zakat tax. It is enjoined on the faithful from their land and property…. And don’t seduce the Jews or Christians for incumbent on them is to pay the jizyah protection tax. Allah’s Apostle dispersed his representatives to every land where Islam had entered to collect the zakat.”

AND THIS IS WHERE THE MUSSIS HAVE GONE WRONG THEY HAVE DONE AS THEY ALWAYS DO THEY GET GREEDY AND THINK THEY CAN CONTROL THE WORLD!!

THIS TIME THE WORLD HAS AWAKEN AND WILL NOT TAKE THEIR CRAP!!

Bukhari:V5B59N546 “Fatimah, the daughter of the Prophet, sent someone to Bakr, asking for her inheritance of what Allah’s Apostle had left of the property taken from the Fai booty gained without fighting in Medina and Fadak, and what remained of the Khumus [Muhammad’s fifth of the booty gained through fighting] of the Khaybar booty.”


SEE THEY NEVER GREW A THING ONLY KILLED AND TAKE NEVER GIVING??


Bukhari:V9B84N59 “When the Prophet died, Arabs reverted to disbelief. Umar said, ‘Should we fight these people?”’ Bakr said, ‘By Allah! I will fight whoever differentiates between prayers and Zakat, as Zakat is the right to be taken from property according to Allah’s Orders. If they refuse to pay me even so little as a kid they used to pay, I will fight with them for withholding it.’”

AND SOME OTHER MONSTER TOOK HIS PLACE WHO WAS WORSE??

Bukhari: V9B87N127 “The Prophet said, ‘I have been awarded victory by terror so the treasures of the earth are mine.’”

THIS IS WAR!!

Bukhari:V5B57N119 “The people used to send presents to the Prophet on the day of Aisha’s turn [to have sex with him]. Aisha said, ‘His other wives gathered in the apartment of Um Salama and said, “Um, the people send presents on the day of Aisha’s turn and we too, love the good presents just as much as she does. You should tell Allah’s Apostle to order the people to send their presents to him regardless of whose turn it may be.” Um repeated that to the Prophet and he turned away from her. When the Prophet returned to Um, she repeated the request again. The Prophet again turned away. After the third time, the Prophet said, “Um, don’t trouble me by harming Aisha, for by Allah, the Divine Inspiration [Qur’an surahs] never came to me while I was under the blanket of any woman among you except her.”’”


SO WATCH YOU CHILDREN THEY THINK TO HAVE SEX WITH A CHILD IS A TICKET TO THEIR rockgod??

Qur’an 59:8 “The spoils are for the Emigrants who were expelled from their homes and from their belongings while seeking the bounty of Allah, and aiding His Messenger: such are the sincere ones. They are loyal.”


WHAT IS THIS ABOUT NOT ABOUT MONEY??


WE IS WISE TO ALL YOUR LIES!!!

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Shukri-

As noted, the terrorism began with Mohammad. Circa 630 A.D.

400 years before the first Crusader was born.

(When he couldn't stand being made fun of by a local woman satirical poet, and ordered her killed...)

And the Koranically-approved slaughter will continue until those sane enough to squelch this despotic theocratic lunacy get serious and sequester the adherents of this 7th century psychopathy to the desert around Mecca. Where the suckers of Mohammad can chop off women's heads and the hands of thieves and where they can smugly refuse to read anything but the rambling plagiarized hatespeech of a stone age pedophile.

Join them, please. The shattered meteorite in the Ka'aba is calling you (can you hear it?):

"Liar. Liar. Liar."

(In Arabic, that's 'taqqiya').

The word "peace" should wither your hand to even type it.

Sura 9:5 wants You!

Shukri-
You are also conveniently forgetting that the Iraqis DIDN'T vote for members the previous American-installed interim government, although that was certainly one of the choices.

Even though the Sunnis mainly boycotted the election, they will be getting proportionate representation while the Constitution is being written. This representation was achieved by Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds working together AS IRAQIS.

It seems that many in the Muslim world are hoping that Iraq descends into chaos and war, instead of becoming a functional, properous democracy. One has to ask why. Is it because happy, free, prosperous people are less likely to subscribe to a totalitarian ideology?

Oh, and Shurkri-
You didn't respond to the comment by the Sunni Iraqi Minister that most of the terrorists are NOT IRAQIS.

"Hassani explains that terrorists have infiltrated Iraq from neighboring countries. “I’m not saying that there are no Iraqis” in the insurgency, “but the majority of the car bombs” and other such acts “are done by foreign terrorists.”

That doesn't sound like much of an "insurgency" to me.

"An insurgency cannot exist without popular support. The "duly elected government" of Iraq is essentially a sham."

Of course, the government has substantially more support, since the majority of the population voted in the election and have become part of the democratic process.

Perhaps the insurgents, since Iraq is no longer so amenable to them, should move on to someplace their hatred is accepted - Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, for example.

Imam Geoff

If it is and if what you say, "An insurgency cannot exist without popular support."..., is true, then the VAST majority, not twenty million, let us say ten million, could easily end the USA occupation.

Might want to consider that the majority of the population is under 18. My statement stands: the current insurgency in Iraq cannot function without public support. Read the AAR's of US officers in the field. They constantly say how local Iraqi's know who is planting the IED's and carrying out the attacks but they ain't telling no Occupier...

To all good citiziens of Japan, Germany, Italy and S. Korea: Notice is hereby given to all citizens of the aforementioned countries that your representative form of elected government is a progeny of a foreign occupying power and therefore is a sham and has no legitimacy.

None of the above countries are being Occupied. Then again, none of those countries have any oil...

You are also conveniently forgetting that the Iraqis DIDN'T vote for members the previous American-installed interim government, although that was certainly one of the choices.

You cannot expect Occupied/Subjugated people to hold a "free" election. The election was essentially a brilliant Occupier exercise in puppetry. Note how incompetent the current "elected" government is...

Of course, the government has substantially more support, since the majority of the population voted in the election and have become part of the democratic process.

The people voted in the election in an attempt to get the Occupiers kicked out. However they have found out that their government is pretty incompetent...perhaps deliberately so since the Occupier has every interest in a weak government that will enable them to continue their looting of Iraqi wealth...

Today's class will focus on 20th Century Asia-Pacific history. Roll call: Shukri?

From today's lesson:

...it was clear that a primary objective of the occupation of Japan would be ... "a peacefully inclined and responsible government" based on "the freely expressed will of the Japanese people." But even he [Gen. Douglas MacArthur] could not have imagined that a few months later, his young American staff would write an entirely new constitution, one that has governed Japanese affairs ever since without the change of a comma.

For your homework assignment, be prepared to discuss in class tomorrow the occupation of Germany.

What slays me is all the Islamic religious leaders around the world asking muslims to pray for this piece of crap. I would like to ask them all, what of the Iraqi people? Are they not muslims? Zarqarwi is killing Iraqis by the hundreds, and he is a hero to the muslim world.

FullofShurki:

The reliance by the "insurgency" on suicide bombing that primarily targets Iraqis who do not support them is a pretty fair indication of how unpopular and desparate the "insurgency" actually is, and not the incompetence of the Iraqi government and the Coalition forces.

And unlike you, the rest of the bloggers have no delusions as to who is funding the "insurgency" and recruiting the bombers (among them cases of Down's Syndrome) and their purpose in doing so.

From Iraqthemodel

At this moment, there's a press conference for the ministers of defense and interior in Baghdad and they're shedding light on a new security campaign called "The Thunderbolt" they mentioned that the campaign will focus on securing Baghdad and eliminating terror activities through "exceptional" security measures.
The ministers announced that this "huge campaign" will include the deployment of 40,000* Iraqi police and army men.

The 1st phase of the campaign shall be launched next week and a "powerful ring" of security forces will be created around Baghdad.
The minister of interior added more details; Baghdad will be divided into two sectors; western and eastern sectors and each sector will in turn be divided into a number of sub-sectors (7 in the east and 15 in the west) I guess this is because the western part is larger in size and relatively witnessing higher rates of violence.

"There will be 675 fixed checkpoints distributed all over the city as well as hundreds of mobile patrols" said the minister of interior.
Answering a question from a reporter about if this campaign is going to be limited to Baghdad only, the minister of defense said "We intend to start working on securing Baghdad next week and we have plans to expand the operations soon after to deal with the terrorists in all other cities".

He also confirmed that contacts were made with the ministry of justice which promised to provide a sufficient number of judges and interrogators to interrogate the expected detainees and to put them on trial when enough evidence are found.

By the way, this campaign seems to be the same one I read about two days ago and talked about in yesterday's post.
The minister of interior also gave a short briefing on the latest achievements of the operations carried out by the Iraqi forces between May 22 and May 26; he said that 578* suspects were arrested in Abu Ghraib, 4 large caches of weapons found, 118 vehicles prepared for car-bomb attacks were destroyed (between April 15 and May 26*) and 6 million dollars confiscated when a terror cell was arrested in Baghdad.

The last defense minister's last words were "it's time to move from defense to offense".

Goodby, Zarqawi et al.
Sorry Shukri, the terrorists you admire are going lose this one.......and it's going to be at the hands of those poor occupied, oppressed Iraqis.

Shukri...says there would be no terrorism if not for the "invasion and occupation"...perhaps the US could have avoided that. There would also be no terrorism in Iraq had the US turned the whole place into a melted glass parking lot...As far as the 8.8 billion of Iraqi oil money gone, Shukri should ask the UN's Annan about that...