Algerian who fabricated details of al-Qaida plot to bomb US cities sent to prison

"War is deceit," said Muhammad. "Algerian who fabricated details of al-Qaida plot sent to prison," from AP, with thanks to Skeetstreet:

INDIANAPOLIS – An Algerian man who lied about an al-Qaida plot to bomb five U.S. cities in an attempt to avoid deportation was sentenced Friday to a year in prison.

Ahmed Allali, 37, had pleaded guilty to three counts of making false statements for telling federal investigators he knew members of the al-Qaida terrorist network and had lived overseas with them in the late 1990s.

In addition to sentencing Allali to a year in prison, federal Judge Larry J. McKinney also imposed 3 years of supervised release following his release from prison.

Allali lied to members of the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force when he told them he traveled into the United States in 1998 with al-Qaida members, prosecutors said.

The Algerian national, who was living in Indianapolis, also claimed that an al-Qaida cell was planning to detonate bombs in five major U.S. cities in early 2005.

Late last year, Allali acknowledged he knew no one associated with al-Qaida and had fabricated the story in an attempt to avoid deportation, authorities said....

Authorities have said the investigation tied up hundreds of agents nationwide, diverting resources from other terrorist leads.

“False reports drain already overburdened public safety agencies as well as create undue alarm at a time in this country where there is legitimate concern,” Brooks said.

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SPQR:

Contact Spencer at director@jihadwatch.org with regard to your inability to post. He will tell you why posts were deleted and which of his "rules" you have broken. He will most likely re-instate you as long as you apologize and promise not to repeat any offending behavior.

Spencer is merciful, most compassionate and
oft-forgiving. ; - )

No deportation probation?
why bother?

I am Mexican-American and travel throughout Mexico quite often. After the bogus claims made by Der Spiegal and reported on this site as truth, why should I believe ANYTHING this site says?

I used to wonder about the posts on this site. But , I go to Chiapas often, even San Cristobal, and I have NEVER met a single Muslim, not one. Why was there no picture of the alleged Mexican Muslims? No interview with the Imam?

If this site posts things I KNOW to be lies, such as the Der Spiegal article claiming islam is converting Indians in Chiapas, WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE ANYTHING THIS SITE says?

I suspsect this site is nothing more than a hate site against Muslims. I say that because there are similiar sites dedicated to spewing HATRED towards us persons of Mexican heritage.

The truth is that the anti immigration KOOKS simply wish to establish a 'link' between islam and Mexico so they can fan the fears of the American ppl and demand the border be militarized. Thus, they put out disinformation about Mexico and islam in order to stir up hatred and fear----------not that there is ANY truth to this.

I mean, I travel all over Mexico and the USA and have NEVER met a single Mexican or Mexican-American Muslim, not one!

LIES, LIES AND MORE DAMN LIES!

Thus, I will no longer even consider that this site has ANYTHING of value to say.

"I am Mexican-American and travel throughout Mexico quite often. After the bogus claims made by Der Spiegal and reported on this site as truth, why should I believe ANYTHING this site says?"

I'm confused. This article isn't about Mexico.


"I used to wonder about the posts on this site. But , I go to Chiapas often, even San Cristobal, and I have NEVER met a single Muslim, not one. Why was there no picture of the alleged Mexican Muslims? No interview with the Imam?"

You don't see them so they aren't there? This sounds like the ostrich fallacy.


"If this site posts things I KNOW to be lies, such as the Der Spiegal article claiming islam is converting Indians in Chiapas, WHY SHOULD I BELIEVE ANYTHING THIS SITE says?"

Der Spiegel is hardly the Weekly World News. Why would they fabricate a story about Muslims on another continent? Could you post more information? A link to the story you are complaining about would be a good start.


"I suspsect this site is nothing more than a hate site against Muslims. I say that because there are similiar sites dedicated to spewing HATRED towards us persons of Mexican heritage."

Guilt by non-association?


"The truth is that the anti immigration KOOKS simply wish to establish a 'link' between islam and Mexico so they can fan the fears of the American ppl and demand the border be militarized. Thus, they put out disinformation about Mexico and islam in order to stir up hatred and fear----------not that there is ANY truth to this."

And Der Spiegel is part of a right-wing American anti-Mexican conspiracy? Now I'm really confused.

Ok Viking, here is a link to the Der Speigal story;

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,358223,00.html

Also, its posted, June 6, on Jihad Watch.

And my point Viking; Given that the Der Spiegal article is TOTAL BS, and posted by Jihad Watch as truth, WHY SHOULD I BELIVE ANYTHING THIS SITE SAYS?

fatman213
Los Angeles County, California USA

So the Algerian gets sentenced to a year in prison (out in 3 months, watch), and 3 years supervised release.

Looks to me like he achieved his goal of avoiding deportation, eh?

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Off Topic: Fatman... the point you so clearly missed involved you posting a comment that had nothing to do with the article you were commenting on. Then you did it again - wow. You define "dense".

For some, it appears "seeing is believing" so . . . for the ostrich types - here is dawa in Chiapas

Back on topic - I wonder if this sentence is the maximum allowed by law ? If it is, then the law needs to be updated to reflect the current 'state of war'and mandate deportation - if not a firing squad.

Even though this Mexico issue is way off topic, I did some fact checking. Maybe you should see this.

http://www.islammexico.org.mx

http://www.mexicoislam.org

http://wais.stanford.edu/LatinAmerica/latinamer_0muslimsinmexandla7102.html

Just to name a few. Maybe you should doublecheck the facts, rather than ignore reality.

"And my point Viking; Given that the Der Spiegal article is TOTAL BS, and posted by Jihad Watch as truth, WHY SHOULD I BELIVE ANYTHING THIS SITE SAYS?"

Thanks for the link. I will post this and then I'll leave this thread to its intended topic. There's just two things I would like to say.

First, the issue of whether the story is true. Der Spiegel is a well-established and respected German publication, and I see no motive for them to fabricate stories in order to serve a US special interest group (ie anti-immigration "kooks"). Further, there are other sites on the web carrying similar stories of Islam in those parts of Mexico. In addition to those posted by Infidel One, there are others, eg

http://hispanicmuslims.com/articles/other/competing.html

Is it your position that all of these are part of an American anti-immigration conspiracy?

Second is the question of the credibility of this site. If you are going to blacklist any site that posts wrong information, then you are going to have a very short reading list. I don't advise you to accept everything you read uncritically (from here or elsewhere), but I hardly think you can condemn a site for posting a story from a credible news source like Der Spiegel.

President Bush has called Algeria a “strategic partner” in North Africa and the Arab world.

from http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-889177.php

As a strategic partner, Algeria should be happy to run a jail system on the Algerian soil to imprison such criminals like Ahmed Allali. The members who read this blog may contact their representatives in Congress and the Senate and persuade President Bush to transfer Allali to Algerian control immediately. Crime on the US soil should never be allowed to get indirect residency. Allali should be incarcerated inside Algeria for the four years of sentence.

Viking asks;

"Is it your position that all of these are part of an American anti-immigration conspiracy"

Ahem, yes it is. Granted there are legitimate grievances against ILLEGAL immigration over the border. However, there is also no doubt that rabid anti immigration and Mexican HATERS seek to establish a 'link' (their word) between Mexico and Islam in order to fan the fears of the American ppl and have the border militarized. Thus, we get bogus reports such as these;

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44723

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40488

World Net Daily is so full of BS, I don't believe ANYTHING posted there.

Anyhow, here is why the border won't be closed anytime soon;

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/highlights/toppartners.html

http://www.bts.gov/publications/white_house_economic_statistics_briefing_room/april_2005/html/us_surface_trade_with_canada_mexico.html

Moving on;

This sentence ALONE shows the Der Spiegal article is bogus;

"In the southern Mexican provincial metropolis San Cristóbal de las Casas, the descendants of the Maya even have to move onto the street if a white person approaches them on the sidewalk"


UTTER BS!

Now, the Dawa "Muslim Hands" states 50 kids have been converted to Islam--YAWN! Mexico is a country of 106 MILLION ppl, most of em under age 25! Also, its possible World net Daily types simply arranged for that Dawa pic to be taken, maybe even showing up with the garb and all----------I don't really know.

Also, Mexico is in NORTH America, not South America or even Central America.

To the rest of the posters, I have no doubt there are a few Mexican Muslims----------I just have NEVER met any. Not one. I have met Mexican Arabic CHRISTIANS, usually of Lebanese descent, such as Salma Hayek and Carlos Slim Helu, one of the wealthiest ppl on earth;

http://www.forbes.com/finance/lists/10/2004/LIR.jhtml?passListId=10&passYear=2004&passListType=Person&uniqueId=WYDJ&datatype=Person

But, Salma Hayek is only 1/2 genetically Lebanese and Carlos Slims kids have married regular ole Mexicans. Nevertheless, the Mexican Arabic CHRISTIANS I have come across I could count with my 2 hands.

And , as I said, I am Mexican-American and travel throughout Canada, Mexico and the USA quite often because of my job.

The USA has 4-6 Muslims ( 1/3 of them 'indigenous' African-Americans)..............depending on who you ask, but somehow its MEXICO that is gonna be overrun by Muslims? NON SENSE.

Finally, this is relavant because like I said; since I KNOW the Der Spiegal story is a lie, and posted as true on June 6 Jihad Watch, why should I believe ANYTHING this site says? I suspect, though have not arrived at a conclusion yet, I may have to file Jihad Watch along with World Net Daily.

fatman213
Los Angeles County, California, USA

P.S.

I will be in Chiapas in September, I will try and find that place ostensibly pictured in the Dawa 'Muslim Hands' pic and take my OWN pics.

LOL

From the link posted by Viking5;

http://hispanicmuslims.com/articles/other/competing.html

I quote the last senetence of paragraph six;

"There are only a few thousand Muslims in Mexico"

Not tens of thousands, no, a FEW thousand.

Mexico is a nation of 106 MILLION ppl!

So, let me reiterate; a few thousand Muslims in Mexico and 4-6 MILLION in the USA.

Also, anyone who has ever been to Chiapas will tell you the place and its ppl, the Maya Indians, are more Catholic than the VATICAN!

fatman213
Los Angeles County, California, USA

fatman, I sure hope you are right!

WHY SHOULD I BELIVE ANYTHING THIS SITE SAYS?
fatman213

Do you believe in these?

004.101 When ye travel through the earth , there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

004.092 Never should a believer kill a believer

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what ''' the unbelievers ''' of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight, smite at their necks. [Behead them!]

005.051 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors {authorities]: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Do you believe in those fatman?

fatman-

You've gone from:

"There are none!... I don't believe anything here!..."

To:

"...there are only thousands... I don't believe in most things here..."

That's called progress.

Glad that your mind, while it isn't as open as the U.S. southern border, is at least open.

Post the pics you take in Chiapas here.

I hope your instincts and estimates are correct.

Cancer cells spread fast from small beginnings, and it only took 19 Islamicist lunatics to kill 3,000 people on 9/11.

I'm all for legal immigrants.

And Muslims staying in Mecca.

FAIR ENOUGH BIGSLEEP!

I would add however that I hear quite often how “Mexicans should come to America LEGALLY”. The only problem with that is that the mechanisms to do just that are NOT really available. I ask you BIGSLEEP; do you REALLY believe Mexicans would not prefer to cross the border in a safe, legal and orderly fashion?

The same ppl who usually bitch that Mexicans should come to America legally (something I agree with btw) are the ones that oppose proposals by President Bush, Sen. McCain, Sen. Craig, Sen. Hatch, Sen. Kyl, Sen. Frist, Sen. Cornyn, Congressman Kolbe, Congressman Flake, Congressman Cannon, and others, that would do just that. Thus, it’s really just a good way to stand for the EXCLUSION of Mexicans in America.

All these efforts to EXCLUDE have a chilling effect on assimilation IMO.

Meanwhile, Mexicans continue to be the ones that pick the crops and do other jobs that frankly, not many Americans want to do.

Now, given the EXTREMELY high decibel levels of HATRED directed at Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, as a group, I take similar hate speech with a grain of salt when directed against Muslims. I mean, I don’t want to be judged based on the actions of a few Mexican and Mexican-American criminals and thugs. Thus, I feel the same should be accorded Muslims.

Tthe media regularly claims that 3 MILLION Mexicans are coming over the border illegally each year. Yet, US Census data released June 9, 2005 states that the entire US population rose by 2.9 million from July 2003 to July 2004-----obviously 100% of the rise in the US population is NOT Mexicans.

http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/005164.html

Now, “only” 60% of the US Hispanic population is of Mexican descent. That coupled with the US Census report stating that the MAJORITY of the rise in the US Hispanic population was from BIRTHS clearly shows that there is no way that 3 MILLION Mexicans are coming over that border. Yet, such non-sense is reported as truth by Time magazine;

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101040920/

Lou Dobbs of CNN also says almost nightly that 3 MILLION “illegal aliens” are coming over the border, yet, as shown above, that’s bogus.

Thus, when I hear vitriol being spewed at Muslims, for the despicable actions of few (9-11), I am skeptical. I mean, here in LA County, I come acr0oss quite a few Muslims; some of them are pleasant ppl who only want to pursue the American dream, others others seem to be idiots………………………….JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

Now, when I return from Chiapas at the end of September, I will indeed post my pics on this site and give a short report on the supposed Muslims of Mexico. I would add however that Mexico is a nation of 106 million ppl, it stands to reason that were would be diversity of religious faiths and that some may be Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or whatever.

Fatman213
Los Angeles County, California, USA

NOTE TO JIHAD READERS;

I apologize for posting this here, its just that I couldn’t figure out how to post this under the June 6 article, I admit that at the risk of fulfilling the stereotype of the “dumb Mexican” Nevertheless, I think the issues of CREDIBILITY I raise are relevant to Jihad Watch in general. Also, I just came across these article on the day posted and frankly, it felt good to express myself on the front page of this site, Jihad Watch.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, I would just like to conclude by saying; Mexico has a Jewish population as well. A long established Jewish community that is an integral part of the nation.

I cite the Jewish Virtual Library;

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Mexico.html

fatman

Not sure about where you are hearing "high decibels of hate" but I personally hear very little or no hate regarding illegal immigration. Most,certainly not all, illegal immigrants are Mexican so they are used generically when illegals are mentioned. The fact that the flood of illegals have:
1. Negatively impacted schools with budget and logistical problems
2. Taken away job opportunities for Americans because illegals undercut wage demand. The bromide that illegals do the work that Americans won't do is a lie. Americans can and wish to continue doing carpentry and other home building trades but illegals undercut wage demand and frankly perform generally poor work in that area.
3. Our prisons are overflowing with inmates and a large percentage of them are illegals.
4. Obviously illegals are a part of the violent and serious crime picture.
The list goes on and on. The illegal immigration issue is costing Americans billions and it will cost American children their chance to succeed here.

These few facts I have listed have nothing to do with hating people in general or Mexicans in particular. Some people seem to enjoy being victimized as long as it's someone from their race doing the victimizing.
What am I missing here?

Posted by fatman

....I don’t want to be judged based on the actions of a few Mexican and Mexican-American criminals and thugs. Thus, I feel the same should be accorded Muslims.....

Thus, when I hear vitriol being spewed at Muslims, for the despicable actions of few .....

Posted by pismopal:

Some people seem to enjoy being victimized as long as it's someone from their race doing the victimizing.
What am I missing here?

You are hearing a defense for Islam.

fatman defends these:

004.101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.

009.005 fight and slay the Pagans ''''wherever'''' ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.

008.067 It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war [slay them first] until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. {TREASON in America

009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. {VIOLENT DISCRINIATION

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?

009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight, smite at their necks. [Behead them!] {VICIOUSNESS

They are commanded to carry out those commands against any and all - who blieve in the Son of God:

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what ''' the unbelievers ''' of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

037.151 Is it not that they say, from their own invention,

037.152 Allah has begotten children? but they are liars!

019.089 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

THEREBY, CALLING ALL OF THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST- LIARS.

009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you.

That is what fatman is defending - when he defends Islam.

fatman
If you are getting on the Islam train because you see the issue related to the fact that Mexicans are pouring across our borders by the thousands, vous vous et trompe de train. Get away from the race issue or you will never "get it". The largest Islamic country in the world is Indonesia. If you are a citizen of this country you are as welcome as anyone in the effort to protect it. The list of patriotic and heroic Mexican-Americans is a long one. Why don't you add your name to the list and stop your tendency for self pity, it doesn't become you.

The truth is that its DEBATEABLE what effect these Mexican immigrants, almost ALL of who work, have on the US economy.

The truth is that when think tanks with stated agendas to curtail immigration, LEGAL as well as illegal, such as the Center for Immigration Studies and FAIR, do the ‘studies’, their conclusions are predictable.

Other studies have been done by other think tanks reaching different conclusions. Among them is the landmark URBAN INSTITUTE study cited here by North County Times (San Diego County) columnist, Ruben Fierro;

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/06/10/opinion/commentary/22_10_406_9_05.txt

Also, this study by the RAND CORP;

http://www.rand.org/news/press.03/05.22.html

And if you want to hear the EXTREMELY high decibel level of HATRED directed against Mexican and Mexican-Americans, as a GROUP, all you need to do is tune in hate radio............ I mean talk radio.

Also, its simply NOT true that all or alsmost all illegal immigrants in the USA are Mexican as this study by the Duke University Pew center shows. That is unless you think 57% is all or nearly all;

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/21/114853.shtml

Now, as to FAIR, the so-called “FEDERATION OF AMMERICAN IMMIGRATION REFORM”, studies and claims. Let me just state that Sen. John McCain has announced today that he will take on FAIR and debate them on this issue, “anytime”. And you CANNOT question the motives of Sen. McCain. You may think he is wrong, you may bring up legitimate grievances, but you CANNOT question the motives of Sen. McCain.

Now, I wonder if you will also say Sen. McCain is displaying self-pity when he debates FAIR and essentially makes my case for me.

Lets just say I see things more in tune with President Bush, Sen. McCain, Sen. Craig, Sen. Cornyn, Sen. Kyl, Sen. Graham, Sen. Campbell,Sen. First........... among others.

I also cite Ben J. Wattenberg on immigration here, below the intro by Pat Buchanan;

http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleID.17264/article_detail.asp

I am not defending or criticizing Islam in any way, shape or form. What I am saying is that just like I don’t want the the cops and public to come looking for ME whenever some thuggish Mexican and/or Mexican-American holds up a 7-11, neither should ALL of the worlds 1.3 BILLION Muslims be the targets of HATRED because of the actions of a few, even if a few hundred. There are 4-6 million US Muslims (depending on who you ask), and if I were to believe you kooks, they are are ALL fanatical terrorists in waiting. Yet, in my own personal encounters with Muslims, as I said, I find no higher percentage of IDIOTS among them than ANYBODY else.

Given all the lies and disinformation I see in the so called, “Main Stream Media”, why should I believe the vitriol spewed against Muslims when I know they LIE so much about us? Thats my question in a nutshell.

Fatman213
Los Angeles County, California USA

fats
One of us has a misunderstanding of what "hate" means and I am not conceding that it is me.

The effect of millions of illegal immigrants is huge net drain on government resources and that is not debatable. The fact that some argue that they aren't a drain is simply propaganda to be believed by those who want to believe it.

Nobody that I have heard says that all illegal immigrants are Mexican and I don't give a damn where they are from..they are illegal. The only reason it would matter more is if they are here to harm Americans.

You say that Senator McCain's motives cannot be questioned. Well I question his motives very often. Being a veteran does not give one a lifetime pass to make bad decisions. McCain is well known for his, shall we say..unpredictability. I say he is a squirrel with his own agenda and his agenda is not always in the best interests of his party or country.

You don't want someone looking for a Mexican when a Mexican is described as a having committed a crime? If your family member is murdered by a Mexican or someone who looks latin, who do you want them to look for? I don't get you on this one so I give up.

If you can't criticize Islam having heard the essence of the..gulp..choke..religion, what can you criticize? I think you criticize Americans for wanting some control over the border but you don't care that Mexico controls the Mexican border. Try violating Mexican law my friend, any law.

Your observation about Muslims and any other group you have met perhaps boils down to your own personal standards of what an idiot is or you need a course in critical thinking.

Question;

"..can't we all just get along?"
rodney king

Answer:
" No !"
pismopal

why should I believe the vitriol spewed against Muslims when I know they LIE so much about us? Thats my question in a nutshell.

Posted by: fatman213

fatman - you don't have to believe a SINGLE word ANYONE says about Islam. Not one word.

But you DO HAVE TO believe that they worship these - OR - they're NOT Muslims:
009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. {VIOLENT DISCRINIATION

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?

009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight, smite at their necks. [Behead them!]

033.052 It is not lawful for thee to marry more women after this, nor to change them for other wives, even though their beauty attract thee, except any thy right hand should possess as handmaidens

They are permitted to trade back and forth the ones they took as prisoners of war [after killing their men] - as though they are merchandise - just so they can have ''their way'' with them. [''justifiable'' mass rape of the 'female captives']

Would that be ok with you fatman? if your sisters, mother - or daughters are treated in that way?

Is slaughtering someone JUST because they don't bow as you do - ok with you fatman?

Is it ok to cut your head off fatman - if by ANY chance you get on the wrong side of those who do such things?

Who's the liar? 'allah' or ALL those 'think tanks' out there?

The 'tree' is known by his 'fruit'

Hypocrisy is anything whatever may deceive the cleverest and most penetrating man, but the least wide-awake of children recognizes it, and is revolted by it, however ingeniously it may be disguised.

And another thing, while we are at it...why should the US have to absorb another country's poor people? What is wrong with expecting Mexico to help it's own people? There are many wealthy Mexicans that could help with the job situation in Mexico. We as taxpayers are being bled to death by illegals using our hospitals for free and our welfare rolls are bulging. You can't possibly think that is fair to US citizens. The old saw about "doing work that Americans won't do" is a lie. The truth is we won't do the work at slave wages like illegals will. Also organizations such as MECHA are hurting, not helping relations. Their crap about this being "Aztlan" is also a lie. This land was won through blood, sweat and tears. We fought wars to call this the USA and if we have to- we will again. Here where I live Mexicans were few and far between, Comanche Indians took care of that matter. So...this was never "Aztlan" I don't have a problem with Mexican-American people, I have as many Mexican friends as Anglos. A wonderful Mexican woman keeps my precious Grandbaby, my son has a Mexican girlfriend, My son's best friend is a Mexican. So you can't say I am prejudiced...I just believe that Mexico should take care of it's own people.

I don't have a problem with Mexican-American people, I have as many Mexican friends as Anglos. A wonderful Mexican woman keeps my precious Grandbaby, my son has a Mexican girlfriend, My son's best friend is a Mexican. So you can't say I am prejudiced...I just believe that Mexico should take care of it's own people.

Posted by: Carolyn2

That is an under-statement! I too have a dear friend - who is Mexican. A legal Mexican.

She believes the Aztlan supporters are only going to plant what so many are fleeing from.

"It's Crazy" she always says.

I say it's - It's Racism - in the fowlest form.







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“Thank God there’s at least one man with balls left in the West.”
Kathy Shaidle, Five Feet of Fury

“I read people like [Mark Steyn] and Bob Spencer and the rest of them, and I say, ‘Boortz, you’re pretending you’re an author. These people really are. They really write some entertaining, some standup stuff.’”
Neal Boortz

“Robert Spencer is the Stephen King of Jihad.”
Chris Gaubatz, Muslim Mafia

“Armed with facts and fearlessness, Spencer stands up for Western civilization.”
Michelle Malkin

“Widely read in conservative foreign policy circles.”
New York Times

“Widely read in many quarters in Washington.”
Washington Post

“A canny operative who likely has the inside track on the State Department’s Middle East affairs desk should the tea party win the White House.”
New York Magazine

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Karen Armstrong

"The leading anti-Islamic intellectual in the United States....The go-to Islam expert for the right wing."
Salon Magazine

“Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down.”
Stephen Suleyman Schwartz

“One of the nation's most notorious Islamophobes.”
Hamas-linked CAIR

"Geller and Spencer are probably the most important propagandizing Islamophobes in the world. These people's voices speak very loudly — not just here in the United States but overseas."
Heidi Beirach, Southern Poverty Law Center

“Satanic ignoramus.”
Khaleel Mohammed

“The Likud anti-Christ.”
Dar al-Hayat newspaper (Saudi Arabia)

“Zionist Crusader, missionary of hate, counter-Islam consultant.”
Al-Qaeda’s Adam Gadahn, “Azzam the American”



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