More on the infamous Khadr family of Canada from CFRA, "RCMP Uncovers al-Qaida Cache: Report," with thanks to Jeffrey Imm.
The RCMP believe they have uncovered information on the whereabouts of al-Qaida members and planned attacks on coalition troops in Afghanistan.The cache of documents was discovered after searching the possessions of a member of the Khadr family.
A report says the information is contained in a laptop, dozens of D-V-D's and in the pages of diaries, all seized when Zaynab Khadr arrived at Pearson International Airport in Toronto in February.
Khadr is the eldest daughter of a family that has admitted to close ties with al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden.
More details from Canada's National Post, with thanks to Jen. Of course, we all know that families of terrorists do not exist in real life.
...A search of [Zaynab Khadr's] computer also unearthed files of Arabic songs that include Osama bin Laden's voice and video clips of terrorists in action or making speeches, all of which are "cause for concern and require further investigation," according to the officer, Sergeant Konrad Shourie.But the Mounties cannot yet return Ms. Khadr's laptop computer, the audiotapes or even her Arabic diary before the legal deadline, which passed last month, because they need more time to copy the information and analyze it.
A forensic analysis of the computer's data, for instance, will take "several more months," the affidavit says, and a psychological analysis of Ms. Khadr based on her diary could take even longer.
Ms. Khadr and her brother Abdullah are under RCMP investigation for participating in the activities of al-Qaeda, the terrorist organization of which their deceased father, Ahmed, was reputedly a high-ranking financier. They have not been charged.
Their younger brother, Omar, is detained at Guantanamo Bay after allegedly killing a U.S. medic in a firefight in Afghanistan. Abdurahman Khadr, another brother who claims to have attended al-Qaeda training camps, has publicly renounced the jihadist sympathies of his family...
Well, I have to give props to the Canadiens, aah! I feared that they wouldn't have the stomach to do the hard work of keeping an eye on people like this. Hopefully they'll finish the job and but all of them away for a long time.
I just might have to celebrate with some Labatt's tonight.
More here on Zaynab Khadr's "al-Qaida collection":
http://www.canada.com/search/results.html?searchfor=khadr
Even if, as her lawyer asserts, most of this stuff can be found on the Internet, then why, oh why, would she carry these around when her family is trying to divest themselves of their image as al-Quaida supporters?
Even more interesting is the RCMPs statement that they need more time to complete a psychological profile on her based on her diaries which were also seized. Must be some interesting revelations in there!
Photos of the lovely lass:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Zaynab%20Khadr%20&num=100&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wi
To add insult to injury , here's a email response from a Muslim that is posted on
a Islamic website and the president is the famous
Dr.Elmasry Muhammad that declared that all Israelis over 18 are valid targets for murder by suicide bombers because of the Draft system.
The email below was from a request by an Elected Official of our Government to review the citizenship laws for Terrorists that may use Canada to launch attack against the USA and American business in Canada.
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http://canadianislamiccongress.org/
Re: CANADA SPLIT OVER FATE OF TERRORIST-LINKED KHADR FAMILY
I find Stockwell Day's braying on the Khadrs' citizenship amusing. The fact remains that the Khadrs met prescribed criteria set out by a duly elected government to get their Canadian citizenship. I wonder what kind of criteria Day met to get his.
Wassalam,
Jamal Hassan Toronto, Canada
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Dr.Elmasry reports on "Islamophobia" in the media and produces a anual break down of the worse anti-Muslim Newspapers,oddly the one owned by a Jewish family seems to make the top of his list every year.
Maybe he should stop posting emails from his followers that defend Terrorist families and
Muslims endorsing terror.
The bitter cup of Islam in the hands of Uncle Sam
This Jihadest family hails from Egypt, a land where Muslims are lunching a campaign to eradicate the local Christian community in earnest with the full cooperation of the Egyptian regime. It is disgusting to see the West open its arms to such filth. At the same time, there are Millions of worthy Christians and other non-Muslims who are suffering in Egypt, Sudan, Indonesia, Iraq, and the West bank, etc. These people are peaceful, generally well educated, model citizens and they raise model citizens. Also, thanks to their common Christian heritage, they integrate very easily in the fabric of western societies.
Yet, many of them are shunned by an immigration and asylum system that is hostile to their pleas. Fanatical Muslims have found their way into the state department, the consulates of their former homelands, the corridors of the federal courts as interpreters and attorneys.
I believe that the Coptic community complained to no avail to the then Secretary of State, Colin Powell, about the hostile reception they got from a senior Bureaucrat who was Muslim lady. Instead, of using these loyal American citizens to wage the war on terror with their linguistic, cultural, and technological knowledge, the government hires Muslims in droves.
No one who tasted the bitter cup of Islam and lived under the mercy of those who have none can stand the state of the Islamic assault on the West. Do you (crazy liberals, blissfully ignorant citizenry, indiscriminate red-necks) want our frustration to boil up to anger, resentment, and then indifference? Why is the West trying to kill our reclaimed dignity, (after 1300 years as beasts of burden and footstools) our pride in our new homeland and relegate it us again to Dhimmitude?
We get moped and attacked in your streets by Muslim thugs when we march to protest atrocities against our co-religionists even in Washington D.C. We are shunned when we ask for asylum. Our children are bullied in inter-city schools by Arab Muslims and their black lackeys. We find Muslims riding us as bosses, college professors, and government officials. No one hears us and no one cares.
For all their valiant efforts, Mr. Spencer and others like him have failed to evoke a mass awakening of the Western mind to the horror that is Islam. I think all the notable anti-jihad voices (the few that they are) speak only to the tiniest minority of Western audiences. History has shown that the Islamic tide can only be rolled back by massive, deliberate, and unrelenting campaigns of violence. I do not think that there is any chance of an inquisition style campaign taking place. Reason and humanity are not valid weapons against Jihad. For all those dozens who apostate from Islam, millions are born each year to replace them with renewed vigor. Anyway you cut it, Islam is taking over with the help of our laws, our corrupt political system, media, and academia.
President Bush has disappointed me to no end. A waste of my vote… Let me tell you. At least with John Carry we would have had no pretences about him. Uncle Sam, pour out your cup… Down the hatch…
umma wrote...I am embarrassed of being a Canadian...
I think you should be furious. From I have read, this family has been bleeding the Canadian welfare and health system dry. Just immigrants doing what Canadians won't do.
Have mercy wrote...President Bush has disappointed me to no end. A waste of my vote… Let me tell you...
Ditto. I wish he would just read one anti-dhimmi book. Is that too much to ask? Yep.
Reset:
The Kadhrs are in a class of their own.
Pure wickedness.
This is a prime example of how evil minded frothing at the mouth bigots and fanatics dance rings around Western liberal society. They think we are decadent scum. The moderates who claim Islamophobia are their accomplices. Amazing.
have_mercy
That was an astonishingly powerful post. We need more people like you speaking in public in the West to bring peoples attention to what is going on. We need the Coptic voice to be heard loud.
have mercy...
Don't forget about the Iraq Assyrians. They are going through the same as the Copts. They were not included in recent Iraq voting or goverment. The State Department knows this and does'nt care.
I have heard some recent numbers that if prove true might be shocking. I will look into and try and get back to everyone, but the word is the State Department has been allowing many Iraq and Afgan muslims into America and the numbers appear to be quite large.
If anyone else has anything on this it would be good to hear.
Posted by: have_mercy at June 15, 2005 04:26 PM
DID YOU THINK THIS FIGHT WOULD BE EASY??
I AM DISAPPOINTED IN YOU GIVING UP??
THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO FIGHT IT IS YOUR JOB TO KEEP AMERICA FREE YOU CAME TO BE FREE AND FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE!!!
YOUR WRITTING IS NICE BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING!! GO THE THE CHURCHES WRITE TO THE TV CHRISTIANS THEY CAN USE YOUR STORYS IMFORM THE PEOPLE THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE MINDS!!!
YES THE FIGHT IS HARD DID YOU RUN AWAY FROM YOUR COUNTY TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO THE FIGHTING FOR YOU?? SHAME!!
REMEMBER FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE AND MUST BE FOUGHT FOR THE FIGHTING IS CONSTANT ARE YOU WILLING TO FIGHT OR JUST COMPLAIN!!!!
BUSH IS NOT A GOD HE IS A MAN AND THERE ARE OTHERS WHO CONTROL THE PURSE STRINGS THIS IS THE WAY WE AS AMERICANS HAVE SET OUR NATION ??
I SEE YOU GIVE UP TO EASY IF YOU THINK YOUR LIFE WAS BETTER THEN GO BACK WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE WIMPS!!!
YES WE ARE FIGHTING THE ENEMIES WITHOUT AND ALSO WITHIN!!!
LOOK AT BUSH'S ENERGY BILL HE WANTED 4 YEARS AGO TAKES OFF THE YOKE OF THE ARAB OIL??
NO THIS FIGHT IS NOT EASY NOR WILL IT BE SHORT IT IS A LONG FIGHT AND COURAGE AND STRENGTH IS A MUST IF WE ARE TO WIN!!
AGIN YOU GIVE UP TO EASY THIS IS WHY YOU LEFT WHERE YOU CAME FROM, TIME TO STAND UP AND FIGHT!!
THE MULSUMS HAVE BEEN KILLING PEOPLE FOR 1300 YRS THIS FIGHT WILL NOT BE OVER IN A YEAR OR TWO!
BUSH IS BASHED EVERYDAY IN THE PRESS AND FROM THE LEFT NOW YOU JOIN IN THAT BASHING??
REMEMBER FREEDOM IS NOT FREE AND WE ARE FIGHTING LOSING PEOPLE WHO ARE STRONG THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN DO MOVE TO A PLACE TO HELP ARMY, AIR FORCE, MARINES, LEARN ARIBIC SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELIE ON TRANSLATORS SO MUCH !!!
THERE IS A SAYING IN AMERICA IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY YOUR BED IS MADE GET OUT AND REMAKE IT!!!
No I see it is you who are lacking and have given up!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
A sublink in the post by ala-sux above is instructive for the learning about the 'truth' of "Jihad" -defined as: "Waging Peace and Justice".
http://canadianislamiccongress.org/ar/ar_jihad.php
Read it and:
A) weep.
B) puke.
C) laugh your ass off.
D) all of the above.
Par example:
Dr.Mohammad Elmasry tells us that "Jihad" really means:
"...to establish, peace, freedom, especially freedom of religion..."
Ah, yes. Conveniently forgetting to say which religion he means.
And that specific un-named religion's freedom to do what, exactly.
"...to establish, peace, freedom, especially freedom of religion..."
It's a pity how many westerners believe this lie. I've had many arguments about the meaning of jihad.
A decendent of 350 generations of Dhimmis speaks out
alaskan1000
I have not forgotten my long-suffering Assyrian, Chaldian, and Armenian brothers and sisters. When I was in Iraq working with American forces, I have seen firsthand the suffering of these people. The Assyrians are the bravest and toughest of Iraqi Christians. Some have paid the ultimate price by the side of our Armed forces (One of them, my friend, who died in my stead in Takrit, which I shall always be eternally in his debt). I have seen with my own eyes the indifference to their blight by our Government. Since the fall of Nineveh these people endured a continuous and unrelenting campaign of extermination. Bush decided to end their existence by bringing down Baghdad. To what end I ask… The rule of the Mullahs or the Ayatulllahs… The drainage of our treasury on the sewage that is Iraq… Tying our hands from dealing with Iran that boasted that it could burn Iraq beneath our feet, if it wished… Blowing the last bubble of American patriotism in so the called x-generation.
Muslim wombs are exponentially more efficient at making holy warriors than we are at killing them. Also, let’s not forget the Western wombs that volunteered themselves to bearing Muslim seed for the glory of Allah. The war is not in Iraq or Afghanistan. It is in every city, town, and sleepy hamlet in the West. Even If every man, woman, and child found out what Islam is all about, it is no guarantee that it will stop the tide of Islam. The Indians who are still the overwhelming majority in what is left of what we call India need no introduction to or instruction in Islam and yet they are helpless against it. Their leadership could alternate between Hindu nationalists and pandering socialists with Muslims getting stronger and balder everyday.
Muslims do not mind massive causalities, endless war, deprivation, and set backs. They just bite their time for the day of reckoning. The Jinni is out of the bottle, so to speak, and there is no butting it back. The question is how long the walls of latter-day Constantinople can withstood the onslaught from without and within. I do not believe that this city (the West) can resist for seven centuries like its doomed predecessor.
People in this site use the term Dhimmi as a negative conation to denounce Western pandering and treason. However, as a descendent of 350 generations of Dhimmis (1400 years worth) I find it insulting to compare those brave helpless souls with those welling b**t boys and gals of Islam. Those venerable men and women, the ancestors of Middle Eastern Christians refused to be Muslim at all cost and paid dearly for it. They are hallowed martyrs of conscious. The average modern Westerner pales by comparison to their indomitable spirit that resisted the very flames of hell.
There is a guy in this site who always talks about deporting Muslims. Does he foresee the rise of a society and leadership capable of preventing Islamic ascendance? I get depressed when I happen to drive by a school bus stop, I go shopping, or I see a Physician, I am starting to think that I am walking in the streets of an Arab or a S.E. Asian Muslim country. Every time I go to Sam’s club, I see men in long Islamic shirts, wearing sandals, and supporting uncouth beards and prominent prayer mark on the forehead, followed by their womenfolk in their tent-style garments. Arrest a thousand family like the one in the article, and we will still accomplish nothing long-term that is. They will see us bankrupt and utterly ruined before we scratch the surface of the Islamic muck.
I am embarrassed of being a Canadian.
Posted by: Ummagumma
Why? Barbra Striesand didn't move there - after all.
Think she'd be penalized for having too much 'skin' showing out of her chador?
Sorry - couldn't resist
Have mercy:
"There is a guy in this site who always talks about deporting Muslims..."
I confess. Guilty as charged. Am I all alone?
Love your post! I really think the message should be broadcast all over the Western world.
Song for you:
http://www.terrorists-suck.org/fight/the_shoe_bomber.mp3
These people are peaceful, generally well educated, model citizens and they raise model citizens.
Posted by: have_mercy
That is an under-statement!!!
We get moped and attacked in your streets by Muslim thugs when we march to protest atrocities against our co-religionists even in Washington D.C. We are shunned when we ask for asylum. Our children are bullied in inter-city schools by Arab Muslims and their black lackeys. We find Muslims riding us as bosses, college professors, and government officials. No one hears us and no one cares.
Posted by: have_mercy
I believe the Lord does.
1Cr 2:9 It is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
Keep the patience
"There is a guy in this site who always talks about deporting Muslims..."
I confess. Guilty as charged. Am I all alone?
Posted by: Terminator
NOPE!!!
Have mercy:...
Love your post! I really think the message should be broadcast all over the Western world.
Posted by: Terminator
I do also.
I'm going to post in on my website
http://palestinename.com/watch.htm It will be in the link "A Nation in Trouble"
Need time to work on it
Catherine: (Where is the true patriotism?)
I have not given up!. It is just what I have seen from dealing with our own government, the arsenal of democracy, is very discouraging. I could tell you that while I was in Iraq, I have not seen a single intelligence officer or Military commander who had any inkling about Islam, Iraqi history, and the Muslim mindset, nor have they been eager to learn. Also, I have seen the lives of brave beautiful Americans whose shoe laces are worth more than Iraq wasted on protecting a hostile fanatical population. I may be limited in my thinking and I do not understand the geopolitical implications or the big picture, but our government does not either, which should scare us all. History, if it is any teacher, it has been demonstrated that every time Christians have tried to help Muslims it resulted in disastrous consequences. I hope that we could have 1/1000 of the zeal of Muslims.
I live in a north eastern state, where true traditional patriotism seems, for the most part, to be confined to senior citizens and a tiny minority of Blue-collar whites. Neither group has any prospect of doing anything about confronting Islam. Albeit, a couple of drunken red-necks beating up of a “darky” who turns out in the end to be a Hindu or a M.E. Christian. Let’s face it: as an entire nation after 911 (360 Million strong), our metal was tested and we came out lacking. Really, how many Americans have had any direct participation in the war effort? Where is the outpouring of active patriotism that Americans exhibited in WWII. My God… Every time, I see a WWII movie, I can not help but cursing the hippies and their progeny who brought us to this sorry state. Patriotism, as I have confirmed from the origins of most soldiers, seems to be both geographically, religiously, and economically confined to god-fearing, rural, heartland or southeren folks who are baring the brunt of this country’s load.
I dare to say that 50% have no measure of patriotism at all, 30% more are inactive patriots, and only 20 percent are capable of the heroics that their grandparents exhibited in WWII. I have seen naturalized citizens, and green card holders who are proudly wearing the uniform and who seem to care about the future of this country more than most of the Latté sipping Mayflower types who have been here forever. It is telling that our president, vice president, our entire senate, and most of the house members have no children serving. I feel that Theodore Roosevelt is turning in his grave.
Finally, even if we woke up tomorrow to find the entire Democratic Party, all leftists, defeatist, and America haters have disappeared form our midst; sucked through a vortex to hell; I hope….Leaving just patriots and Muslims… I ask you, would that ultimately solve the Muslim “question”? I am sure that it would help. However, we are too civilized, too nice of a people, and too chivalrous to take the necessary steps to save the world from Islam. Don’t you agree?
My father fought in WW II, Have-Mercy, and I am glad there were no kerrys to blacken the reputations of tens of thousands in those days. I look forward to your meeting kj and giaour.
Have_mercy, it is bleak in many ways. Because Islam stealths as a protected class, i.e. religion, it has the perfect shield. Religious freedom is so fundamental to the 'West.' Of course, Islam has never put up with any ofthat foolishnes after conquering new lands, but don't tell the dhimmis.
Sure we have had cults before - remember the nuts in California who all committed suicide and were dressed in their Sunday best sneakers awaiting the spaceship, I kid you not? But that religion (I can't even remember the name) was immediately labeled a cult by the media and the government, and everyone was suspicious of it.
But Islam, the population is huge - over a billion, so people cannot see it as a cult. A cult can't have a billion members, that's impossible, so therefore, Islam is a legitimate religion and deserves all of the government's protection and respect.
As a Muslim you can't leave Islam, well you can, but unless you have money and an asylum, it is hard and may seriously shorten your lifespan. As a Muslim, you can't criticize Islam, well you can, but don't forget your flak jacket and spit shield. As a nonMuslim, for the best future, it is best to convert. Over time, your Muslim children will forget your heritage and come to hate the people their ancestors once were. All the doors are locked. It's kinda like the Borgs, those relentless aliens,constantly seeking new populations to absorb, from Star Trak, assimilate into Islam or be destroyed.The perfect population expansion strategy.
It always amazes me when people convert to Islam and say how 'good' it is. Maybe far more people are weak of mind, and want to be told what to do, what to think, who to hate. Kinda like a roach motel, crawl in but you can never crawl out. Such a concept is so foreign to me and practically everyone I know.
I do think people are slowly becoming more aware of Islam's imperialistic attitude, 'appease me or I'll sue/bomb/torment/kill you'. Unfortunately, President Bush is a dim bulb regarding Islam's true nature, as is Dhimmi Rice and so many others.
Here's another link that will make you even sicker,for 10 years the media hid the truth about Canada's worst and bloody mass murder by one killer that was a Muslim on a Jihad mission for Allah.
Gamil Gharbi slaughter 14 female students and injured about 7 others on December 6th 1989 at the school he attended,the suicide note says it all and the violent Algerian Muslim father handed down the Sharia Laws to him that fed his hate for females in the West that were evil in the eyes of Allah.
As usual the femiNazis blamed all males and the PC Government has spent over 2 billion dollars
on a gun registry that hasn't stop one criminal
from shooting and killing their victims,the truth is it's a "Long Gun" (Rifles) registry and hand gun killings have been on the rise and to no surprise not one of the guns had the serial numbers registered under the normal Licenses
for FAC (Firearm Aqusition Certifivcate) while
Farmers and hunters could go to jail for not complying.
The pro-Wahhabi people at CAIR Canada are behind the push for Sharia-Law in Canada,I doubt those female students in Montreal would have defended the "Religious Freedoms" provision in the Charter for Muslim men to teach the Muhammadian misogeny from the Quran.
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/spree-killers/marc-lepine/
It is telling that our president, vice president, our entire senate, and most of the house members have no children serving. I feel that Theodore Roosevelt is turning in his grave.
Posted by: have_mercy at June 15, 2005 09:15 PM
You are wrong there. There are a few congressmen who have children in this war!!!
As for the mayflower group if you looked at real history they were around in WW2 as well!!
You are right about the threat but you have to remember what Bush said there will be things you see and things will seam as if nothing is going on you can't see!!
Don't give up on Americans!!
The Americans I know do know what they need to know as for Militay I won't go there!!
Americans Know it was mulsums who attacked the USA they are being Americans and Waiting!!
The press is another story and the Democrats are another this is what you are seeing and the big city folk have always been silly??
The mulsums think they have control look in the blue state and the change of a school in vermont the American People are being pushed to far??
Just try to take a skate board away from a kid??
The American People are doing for the Soldiers they are young people sending letters and other things!!
People build houses for the injured who have come home!!
No the press try to beat us down but the tide is turning back the crape about the prison is old news and people see the Truth now!!
The Islamic Terrorist nor the Democrats will not Win!!!
Stay strong my friend and don't give up!!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to stay the course to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Amen
PS
The conucks today announce their costom adgents will be carring??
Beth,
Thanks for the complement. Please before you post it, kindly act as my editor and review the many grievous grammatical errors that I have committed. After all, not only am I a non-native speaker, I am also a byproduct of the failing level of English instruction in our schools. Thank god I opted for a technical discipline with very little writing involved. I guess I have not advanced much beyond the level of the Spanglish speakers that I was placed with upon arriving to this country. At least, I bested most of the American kids in Math and Science.
It is telling that our president, vice president, our entire senate, and most of the house members have no children serving. I feel that Theodore Roosevelt is turning in his grave.
Posted by: have_mercy at June 15, 2005 09:15 PM
You are wrong there. There are a few congressmen who have children in this war!!!
Hence, the usage of “most house members” to denote the handful of congressmen with children in uniform. However, I love your optimism.
For those living in Canada,CAIR has defended
several Muslims now linked to terrorism and below is the proof of CAIR's tactics to silence people through threats of law suit and fianacial ruin from the cost,CAIR testified at the Arar inquiry on June 9th and Sheema Khan used the notorious
"Islamophobia" and "Racism" to play the victim and force the teaching of Islam to all Security agencies under the guise of "Sensitivity" and "Cultural" awarness training.
Ms.Khan stayed mute on the 9/11 hijackers being MUSLIM'S and avoided the antics of the Khadr family or Ahmed Ressam and Momid Khwaji.
Newsflash to CAIR, there's a reason for sane intelligent Jews and Christians not trusting Muslims that remain silent on terrorism by Muslim becuase they weren't "True" Muslims.
Note that CFRA is under threat from CAIR and the CRTC is one of their weapons mentioned on the caircan.ca website,read the June 8 transcripts
and see the crap spewing from Sheema even though she used a Quran to swear in, ah the benefit of Taqiyya for Allah plan to slaughter the infidels.
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CAIR-Canada vs. CFRA and David Harris. Harris, a former Canadian Security and Intelligence Service agent, mentioned on radio station CFRA's morning show, "Madeley in the Morning," that the U.S. group CAIR has links to terrorism and called on the Canadian office to clarify its position. CAIR-Canada is suing them for libel.
Comment: CAIR's strategy in the three cases undertaken in its own name is not quite clear, for intimidation is balanced by discovery. Lawyers with theories on this subject are urged to send them to me. (September 13, 2004)
Nov. 23, 2004 update: David Frum reports today on a pending new case of libel:
David Frum and Canada's National Post newspaper: The Canadian branch of CAIR served them two weeks ago with a notice of libel (which Frum explains is "a warning of a lawsuit to come"). CAIR accuses Frum of having written previously in the National Post an article that characterizes CAIR (in the words of the notice served on him) as "an unscrupulous, Islamist, extremist sympathetic group in Canada supporting terrorism."
** BTW,it was Sheema Khan that attacked David Frum for a book he wrote and Frum later proved
she lied by taking sentences that were pages apart,she then put them together and pawned them
off as Islamophobia and Muslim-bashing.
A pathetic person doing more harm to Islam than
good,plus her media resume reads like a Liberal supporter wanting grants to avoid getting a job,she list the CBC,TVO,CBC radio and Anti-American newspaper that support her Wahhabism
Islam to attack Jews ..oops,the new catchword is Israel at any chance.
have_mercy-
It will take WMD shock therapy to rouse the same "sleeping giant" that Imperial Japan woke in 1941. And was destroyed by. (Then reconstituted by.)
In 1940 America was a pacifist-poisoned, Great Depression-weakened mess, with no functioning modern military, an incompetent, isolationist Congress (FDR has to play the game of "Lend Lease" to get around the laws they passed to hamstring England in its fight against the Nazis), and a people divided into wildly competing blocs, -some battling anti-semitism, some pro-fascism, some deluded pro-communists, some racist elitists, some union organizers, some union-busters.
But the intensity of the threat, and the humiliating defeats at Pearl Harbor and the Phillipines, and then in the first disastrous assaults on North Africa -against the superb war-machine of the Nazis- woke Americans from their stuporous selfishnesses.
Today, it appears we didn't see enough of the raw horror of 9/11 (since the press censored its crudest and cruelest images) to have its infuriating effect last.
But, as soon as the next serious strike hits America, the layer of denial that has clouded the general consciousness (with a lot of help from the self-loathing/'America Last' class) will be blown away.
We prefer to think the best of the most for the longest.
But, when we learn otherwise, we kick ass HARDEST.
Don't fear for our ability.
(Being disgusted with our patience, however, is understandable.)
However, I love your optimism.
Posted by: have_mercy at June 15, 2005 11:19 PM
WELL THANKS FOR THAT!!
But you have to Remember yesterday it was 65 yrs ago the French in Paris woke up to German voices saying you are under German Control!!
This war is no different than WW2 we are just fighting in covert ways like in WW2 we sent pliots to fight the Japanese with the Chinese this was before Pearl Harbor??
We the USA let Europe and most of Africa be taken before we got in WW2??
The American People are waking up and so are the Europeans I have seen the change in a short time just a year reading post from around the world here??
I have seen even Libs have an awaking??
No for every one who post here there are many who just read!!
The storys make the e-mail circle the clubs I'm in the people know are they ant-jihad live and breath no they are waiting???
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
Most Americans knew nothing of Wake Island but we won it!!!
Have mercy wrote...President Bush has disappointed me to no end. A waste of my vote…
George Bush works in strange and mysterious ways. I enjoy repeating that. You will never understand Bush. The human mind does not have the capacity to fully comprehend GW.
He is exemptus adeptus. A mind of unfathonable depth. Just when you think he's failing, he wins, and just when it looks like he is winning, he is winning. He wants some people to think he is stupid...thats part of his plan...he also wants people to think he is not doing much...thats part of the plan also...brilliant isn't it. I bet smooching that Saudi, right up on the face, was also part of the plan. Now you have to admit, that is a little mysterious.
I very sorry to say that nothing will come of the prosecution of these people. The Canadian injustice system will not allow the punishment of criminals. I regret even more to tell you that the only common source of Canadian national identity is HATEING America. I warn you: if you are American you will find few friends among Canadians. For this reason there will be no desire by the Canadian people to see the Kadirs brought o justice. I am sorry, and I am truly ashamed to call myself Canadian.
I have come up with a great plan -- Since the Muslims consider America to be such an oppressive environment, why don't we encourage them to move to Canada? Canada will welcome these poor oppressed victims of American hegemony and "Islamophobia" and sheild them from the horrors and offenses of a nation which still has a connection with its Judeo/Christian heritage. Canadians always like to depict themselves as morally superior to Americans, they brag about their secular zealotry, their socialist welfare system, and their post modern notion that warfare and defense are relics of a bygone ere -- It sounds like a Muslim playground to me -- We could develop a subsidy to help the Muslims emmigrate -- we kill two birds with one stone -- we unload an inimical population of non-integrating, terror sympathizing, violence promulgating Muslims, and challenge Canada to prove its bona fides regarding "multiculturalism" anti-capitalism, and post modern moral relativity! It is PERFECT!!!
I have not given up!. It is just what I have seen from dealing with our own government, the arsenal of democracy, is very discouraging.
Posted by: have_mercy
You know what it is have_mercy? It's the feeling of being alone.
Join the party!
Here's something that may be of comfort.
Jesus felt all alone in his final hour [probably a feeling that can't be measured for Him] but notice - He said - He wasn't alone - because the Father was with Him. His Father includes a MIGHTY VAST ARMY
have_mercy
Thanks for the complement. Please before you post it, kindly act as my editor and review the many grievous grammatical errors [I will - I did post it - but will go back in and check it. I think I'll make a correction - concerning rednects] that I have committed. After all, not only am I a non-native speaker, I am also a byproduct of the failing level of English instruction in our schools.
That in NO WAY means you're not wiser than the elite kings of this world.
So - be proud - have confidence [It gets me through]
Albeit, a couple of drunken red-necks beating up of a “darky” who turns out in the end to be a Hindu or a M.E. Christian.
The 'rednecks' HATE Islam. It is very important that the voices of America inform the public about Islam - and what its Koran really does teach - for MANY reasons.
One of them is so that racism [of the races] doesn't take place.
But offences at Islam? Christians have every right.
Islam calls the Son of God an abomination.
Bare with me here - and smile:
We could pass out tags [like name tags] with I love the Son of God - for those who don't want to be attacked by the 'rednecks'
Turn about is fair play?
Now you have to admit, that is a little mysterious.
Posted by: duh_swami
duh_swami? Even though I jumped with joy when Bush won - I have a problem with his attitude over the southern border.
I also object to his statement "Islam is a religion of peace" {That's blasphmey, ya know. Can't sit with those who call the Son an abomination and sit with the Son also.
So - if a True Christian - doesn't that concern him?
I'm still waiting to see what happens befoe I form any final convictions within my mind
I am sorry, and I am truly ashamed to call myself Canadian. Posted by: SnowDawg
Again - there's that feeling of being alone. I'll bet you're not as alone as you think you are.
There are many TRUE canadians. The rest [the loudest mouths] don't belong there!
Canadians always like to depict themselves as morally superior to Americans,
Posted by: jsla
Not true jsla. The True Canadians need all of the help they can get.
Ponder this one:
The French just told ChIRAQ - where to stick it.
I for one - LOVE IT!
brilliant isn't it. I bet smooching that Saudi, right up on the face, was also part of the plan. Now you have to admit, that is a little mysterious.
Posted by: duh_swami at June 16, 2005 01:15 AM
I was think of that this morning holding hands with the king puts the royls in bed with thoese they fight ??
of course that was already happaning in speak not action he just up the stakes for all the royal family now they will have to spend even more money on protection and who they going to trust??
they have lost control think about Mr. Anderson and the order was given not to harm him and they found his head in a Freezer??
Yea swami some things are deceiving???
Look at David and Golith???
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fight with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat let not the world be deceived by them Give the wold Courage to Stand Up and Fight this Evil Islamic Terrorist Threat Amen
jsla:
Canada has had a drastic reduction in Muslims entering from the USA,the main reason is
that they can no longer rape our Welfare system
by claiming to be a refugee.
The rules were changed and the "Third Country"
clause was added to stop asylum seekers that globe trotted until they got to the Nations with the best Social programs and Laws that forbid
deporting criminals to Countries that torture or
have the death penalty as punishment.
As we see in the Khadr family the real refugees
that actually made it out of their Country and
got to Canada will be the victims of Al-Qaeda
since only a direct route from the homeland will
qualify for that status,making it to the lower
area of North America and traveling up to Canada
now means you should have made the claim in the first Country you landed in after fleeing.
There are several "Kahdr's" in Canada and they have Muslim lawyers that know how to use the system,in fact CAIR is now demanding that Terrorists that aquired Citizenship in Canada
and get arrested for planing attacks can no longer have that revoked and deported to Country of origin.
CAIR protest the deportation of Ernst Zundel and now they defend 5 Nazi war criminals that are about to be sent to Europe for trial,CAIR is Wahhabi based and their fight to protect Jihadists and mass murderers is telling of what Islam is all about and why CAIR demands Sharia-Law in Canada.
Umma writes:
I am embarrassed of being a Canadian.
Posted by: Ummagumma at June 15, 2005 03:56 PM
Hey, Umma,
Now you go wash your mouth out with soap! It's not YOUR fault that your government is doing what it's doing; in fact, it's people like you who will be be there for Canada when the s**t hits the fan, when the citizens wake up! And trust me, wake up they will!
Have_mercy writes:
For all their valiant efforts, Mr. Spencer and others like him have failed to evoke a mass awakening of the Western mind to the horror that is Islam...There is a guy in this site who always talks about deporting Muslims. Does he foresee the rise of a society and leadership capable of preventing Islamic ascendance? I get depressed ...
Posted by: have_mercy at June 15, 2005 04:26 PM
Have_mercy,
Congratulations on your excellent English! I'm a native speaker, and you certainly had ME fooled!
Don't be TOO unhappy that success isn't as quick as you'd like it to be. I agree that it seems so OBVIOUS that all of us should be out there with our pitchforks and torches, encouraging our Protectors to see the light. But fear not, the progress is actually astounding. The blogs that are concerned with the "Islam problem" are out there by the hundreds of thousands, and each of them has its own readership; Robert's books are selling quite well, as best I can tell, and JW is reaching people all over the world; more and more radio talk show hosts are becoming less and less timid about Islam; movies that try to glorify Islam aren't doing as well as expected; sympathetic groups like the Minuteman Project are gaining support, despite being called "vigilantes" by those who should be doing the job; even prime-time TV, like "24," is beginning to name the enemy--the fact that it was "dhimmified" with an apology can't cover up the fact that it actually happened.
Right now, it is very discouraging that the enemy, both within and without our borders, are speaking of getting rid of Gitmo.
This problem arises from the simple fact that no one dares declare war any more. War is a legal act, with legal consequences. It is simply because no war has been declared that we are in this particular pot of stew.
But even so, don't worry. Let's assume the worst-case scenario, just for the sake of discussion.
Gitmo goes, all the terrorists are sent back to wherever, and the Muslims here and abroad are deleriously happy. They are so happy that they celebrate not just by dancing in the streets, but because they smell blood, and as soon as they can, they "do it again," with serious damage to our population, our economy, and infrastructure.
OK, there we are. What do you suppose happens next?
Well, they have FINALLY MADE US MAD. Let's assume that just about everyone has been touched by whatever it is that "they" have done, or knows someone who has, and all of us who have survived have felt or seen the results on our skins.
Would you just sit there on your hands? What would you be inclined to do to the local Halal store, the local mosque, etc?
I think you'd be pretty darned pissed off. I think you wouldn't CARE any more about good manners. I think you would probably take very seriously what had happened, and I think you would want to see to it that nothing like that every happened again, no matter what it took. I think you might even think that they only way to assure that outcome would be do be sure that there were no more Muslims in the neighborhood.
And you wouldn't be alone. Even a goodly portion of those Leftists who indulged in nihilism as a sort of childish "hobby" would join you now. It's been on their skins, too.
I know for a fact that I am one of many posters here who think it would be a great idea to get "them" the hell out of our country BEFORE "it" happens, rather than wait until the inevitable "after" it happens, but that ain't gonna happen. It will have to wait until "after," but trust me, then we WILL respond appropriately.
We live a good life here, and it's very hard for a lot of people, especially those who don't read much, to believe that it's possible that it can be compromised. These concrete-bound people believe only what they see, feel, hear, smell, or touch. Nothing but evidence of that very primitive sort will convince them that their lives as they know them could ever be in danger of changing.
What do we do?
If we're feeling particularly calm, we will take all the oaths--naturalization, membership in the military, taken upon assumption of office, etc.--and recognize that "they" swore to or affirmed them fraudulantly, that is, with the intent to deceive. That is perjury, a crime, and they would have their assess kicked all the way back to whatever hell-hole we chose to dump them. We would recognize that the rest of them, those born in the U.S., can't ever be trusted because of taqiyya, kitman, etc., and they would be put into places like Nouveau Gitmo, maybe out in the middle of the Mohave.
Then, if we were REALLY pissed, we would lob a few Mecca's way, Medina's way, Damascus' way, and especially Tehran's way, just for old times' sake.
Don't imagine for a minute that we don't have nuclear subs moseying around the eastern Mediterranean, with a lot of willing fingers on some very big buttons. Have you ever seen one of those things launched? They can give you bloody diarrhea just thinking about what they can do.
Don't be too unhappy at the pace of things, have_mercy. We will try every peaceful means at our disposal, make every effort, no matter how useless, and it will fail. "They" will do "it" again.
But that's the last thing they will ever do.
But that's the last thing they will ever do.
Posted by: Cubed at June 16, 2005 04:35 PM
Gold Star for you today!!!
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
God Bless the Countries who have Heros Amen
pity the countries who need them. NOT!!!!
To Allah SUX -- Dang -- that's disappointing!