Iran crows: Muslims to Train US Police

From Iran's IQNA, with thanks to Kaosktrl:

Tehran, IQNA: June 12, 2005--American Muslim groups are to train US police on the Islamic religion so as to be more sensitive towards Muslims.

According to the US Fox news channel, the US police, wanting to avoid a repeat of the scandals surrounding Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib prisons, are to be trained on Islamic religion by American Islamic groups and foundations.

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I have a better idea. How about training Muslims to be more sensitive to everyone else.

jay

All this whining about being "sensitive" to Muslims! Maybe they are so "sensitive" because they subconsiously know that their minds have been poisoned.

Wasn't it Shakespeare who wrote "Methinks thou dost protest too much"?

Also, the "scandals" alluded to in the above article are scandals only because the media portray them in such a manner. War is ugly, and the out-and-out combat was instigated by a group of jihadists on 9/11. I'm a bit "sensitive" about that day myself.

The media need to publish some of the Muslim scandals, some of which are ludicrous. I seem to remember a teapot story and a KFC attack.

Islam respects women - apparently, just not very much.

I just scrolled down the page: Woman dies of acid burns, Pakistani fathers kills two daughters.

I guess we need to start with Muslim men and teach them to be more sensitive to their own women and daughters. Until then, we infidels do not have a chance.

jay

This article is probably referring to the sensitivity training implemented by the FBI several months back. The camel courier must have finally made it to Tehran.

They have got it all backwards, I think we need to put an organization together made up of Christian Churches, and Jewish Synagogues and go out and give sensitivity classes to muslims. ---Yep;that sure does sound obsurd doesn't it, given what we know about Islam.

What are they going to teach us so that we can be more understanding and sensitive to muslims?

How to pay the jizah tax?

How to appreciate the denegration of women in Islam?

How to appreciate and respect the honor killings of women?

How to respect the right of muslims to stone women to death who have been raped and then let the rapist go with a few lashes.

How to appreciate why they feel that the Bible and the New testament are corrupt.

How to be careful when handling the Quran so that you don't end up getting a death sentence.

How to avoid insulting Mohammed so that you don't get a death sentence.

How to appreciate their rights in the Quran to hate Jews and Christians?

Yep, I guess that would be a start.

There are some programs arounfd to make muslims more aware

http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005/06/team-infidel.html

Watchfuleye:

The barbaric government in Tehran is pretty insensitive to Muslims itself -- when their conduct isn't in full accordance with the mullahs.

Check out faithfreedom.org's archives for stories about teenaged girls and young women with either mental health or border-line intelligence being hung for "chastity crimes", execution by stoning, the murder of Iranian Canadian photojournalist Zahra Kazami by Iranian authorities for photographing the exterior of the jail for political prisoners and more.

Mackie offered: "I think we need to put an organization together made up of Christian Churches, and Jewish Synagogues and go out and give sensitivity classes to muslims."

King agrees: I agree with this. It could stimulate a two-way street of understanding and tolerance and put less emphasis on myths and characater.

"How to appreciate their rights in the Quran to hate Jews and Christians?"

King responds: Not true. The Koran also called Jews and Christians "People of the book" and embraces them as part of "Abrahamic based faiths." Only the radicals reject this and employ the more militant interpretations.

"How to appreciate why they feel that the Bible and the New testament are corrupt."

King replies: Once again, not true. You've accepted the characatured, "militant" version of Islam the we are all fed on TV and the media as "it." The Koran requires the Old and New Testaments as Mohammed was simply the last of the three major prophets. Truly peaceful Muslims know this to be fact and can cohabitate with their Jewish and Christian brothers.

KT: Kitman & Taqiyya doctor:

Your hysterics give you away.

Your limited ability to debate issues give you away. Your kitman/taqiyya gives you away. Your Lies give you away. Your misrepresentations are obvious.

You make no point. You are calling me racist without knowing what race I am.
You are calling me religious bigot without knowing whether I am religious or an atheist.
You are repeating the same lines (and lies) too often not to be a Mohammedan.
You are calling me 'xenophobic' without knowing that my family and my business spans worldwide and includes many nationalities and different races.

Your history is too selective for you not to be a Mohammedan.
Make sure you use UHU to glue your coffee-filter tight toyour skull and be sure to fart in the right direction when you prey to Mekka!

islam is very good at pointing out others' sins by "straining at a gnat," while at the same time completely "swallowing a camel" when it comes to covering over any sins of islam. in other words, any fault of islam, if such a fault is even admitted to exist by muslims, is of course justifiable, acceptable and excusable. any tiny fault of the non-muslim world, however, is lambasted by islam as if it is the unforgivable sin. well, i have news for islam, good news.

all "sins" have been taken away by christ's cross 2005 years ago. god is no longer dealing with man on the basis of sin and death, but rather on the basis of life in his son jesus christ. so, islam, please quit dealing with man as if you were god. islam is not god. islam is a guilt trip, a huge ruse, a scam, a deception. jesus christ was sent into the world to destroy the works of the devil, and to remove the spiritual scales from peoples' eyes, including muslims, so they can be born again of the spirit.

this condemning guilt trip that is islam, is pure hypocrisy and double standard because without jesus christ, who islam bans and prohibits, islam has no righteousness whatsoever before god.
god forbid that i ever let islam put me on any sort of guilt trip or "take me to the wood shed" for not being pleasing enough to allah.
i am already 100% pleasing to the living god because of my acceptance of jesus christ. case closed. i am acquitted, permanently, by god, of all accusations imaginable.
i don't need islam coming along telling me how displeasing i am to allah for such and such behavior. i already graduated from that islamic type of kindergarten, where i have to keep a scorecard with god. jesus settled the score forever and god is 100% pleased with me because i traded in my own "righteousness" in for that of jesus christ's.

i know it is hard for you muslims to grasp, but my guilt, whatever it was, is or will be, is already 100% taken away, just like every other sin of the world, except for unbelief in jesus christ.
i have fulfilled the requirement of eternal life. there is no more condemnation awaiting me, no matter how hard anyone may try to condemn me, including satan. it's already "game over" and i have won through faith in jesus christ. won't you join me?

for any pious muslims to attempt to negate christ's work by piling more guilt onto me is a lie and deception from satan. the truth is that i have been made perfect in god's eyes through jesus christ. there is now no room for islamic guilt trips or having to perform in order to please god. christ already pleased god. do you think we can add to christ's perfect sacrifice and resurrection with our own efforts? would god be impressed with our striving? of course not. muslims, don't you want the islamic pressure to please god taken off of you? jesus christ can do that in about 30 seconds or less if you thank him for taking away all your past, present and future sins and then ask him into your heart to be your life.
all sins have been dealt with already at christ's cross, except for unbelief in the son of god, a sin which leaves man spiritually dead. now, that is the good news that can set muslims free.
let's quit acting like we can impress god with our own righteous works and putting people on guilt trips. the only guilt that is attributable to man, from god's standpoint, is unbelief in jesus christ.
this is where the muslims think they excell, good works, fulfilling the old covenant law, but this type of righteousness based on self-effort is as filthy rags to god. no one will be justified before god by observing the old covenant law, but only by accepting jesus christ.

Dear Mr. King Tolerance

"How to appreciate why they feel that the Bible and the New testament are corrupt."

King replies: Once again, not true. You've accepted the characatured, "militant" version of Islam the we are all fed on TV and the media as "it." The Koran requires the Old and New Testaments as Mohammed was simply the last of the three major prophets. Truly peaceful Muslims know this to be fact and can cohabitate with their Jewish and Christian brothers."

Mackie replies:

The Christian Scriptures have been CORRUPTED and should be avoided a party of them used to listen to the word of Allah, then used to change it" (SURA 2:75). "Allah has told you that the people of the scriptures have changed some of Allah"books(i.e. the Torah,psalms and the Gospels) and distorted it and wrote something with their own hands" (HADITH 9:614).

This small article really demonstrates the extreme that the PC crowd is taking our nation. Sensitivity training from the Iranians! I can't tell if this is real or someone is pulling my leg. This really demonstrates Michael Savage's thesis that "Libaralism is a Mental Disorder."

Iran is so tolerant- see link from Christian
concerns:
Iranian Christain faces death:
http://www.persecution.org/newsite/storydetail.php?storycode=604

I encourage others to write their representatives and tell them how foolish this is. It will only show the enemy how weak and divided we are.

From a primary source I found from the 11th c. the only virtue the Muslims saw in the Franks was courage. The source it at home otherwise I would cite it. Senstivity training from Iran- lol a thousand times

To Mackie: People of "The Book" refers to Christians and Jews, who are also of Arbrhamic derivation. Perhaps your little quote is simply there to tell those who follow the Koran that the version delivered by Mohammed is considered to be the most pure? Once again, you are accepting the radical interpretation.


029.046
YUSUFALI: And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam)."
PICKTHAL: And argue not with the People of the Scripture unless it be in (a way) that is better, save with such of them as do wrong; and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us and revealed unto you; our Allah and your Allah is One, and unto Him we surrender.
SHAKIR: And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our Allah and your Allah is One, and to Him do we submit

Sensitivity training by people with Iranian attitudes to public order or crowd control would in any case result in a Rodney King type of policing. Perhaps someone wants a little more healthy police brutality?

The despicable actor Sean Penn can oversee the 'sensitvity training'- he's getting all geared up now for it while on a 'mission from Allah' in Iran. I hope he get's the Rodney King treatment from the Iranians, it would do him good. (In fact he might like it so much that he might go back there for more!)

KT:
"People of "The Book" refers to Christians and Jews, who are also of Arbrahamic derivation."

Christians and Jews are of 'Abrahamic derivation'. Mohammedans are not.

The moon-god is not 'Abrahamic' and none of the prophets would or could be associated in any way with Mohammed.
Mohammedan lies and fairy-tales based on that filthy terror-manual called 'Koran' don't make the 'religion' any better: It remains nothing but a vile ideology based on conquest and booty, slavery, fanatism and terror.

Terminator: "Christians and Jews are of 'Abrahamic derivation'. Mohammedans are not."

King: News flash - you are dead wrong. Gee, why am I not shocked? Islam is most certainly of Abrahamic derivation. I'll stop here since you do not deserve any more details. Your assignment is to look this one up and get back to me.

Terminator: "I hope he [Sean Penn] get's the Rodney King treatment from the Iranians, it would do him good."

King chuckles: Now this is what feeding the trolls is all about! Allow me to hit this one like a cat toy!

1. You come on here hating Islam and Muslims becuase you think they are barbarians.

2. You get into my face because I come with a message of tolerance and understanding.

3. You then post that you think Sean Penn should be beaten "Rodney King style" by Iranians.

If you get any more racist and bigoted you would become a characture too silly to be taken seriously.

Terminator: "Christians and Jews are of 'Abrahamic derivation'. Mohammedans are not."

King: News flash - you are dead wrong. Gee, why am I not shocked? Islam is most certainly of Abrahamic derivation. I'll stop here since you do not deserve any more details. Your assignment is to look this one up and get back to me.

Was Mohammed a Beduin or was he a Jew? Since when are Beduins 'Abrahamic?' Mohammed made these preposterous claims because he wanted the Jews to surrender to his cult.Just like Mohammedans lie about it today to the Christians: 'we are all from the same family, lets cuddle up so we can gobble you up...'

'I don't -deserve- any details?'
You sick little puppy: Where is proof that anything from the mooncult is 'Abrahmic'-just because the peadophile murderous carawan raider claimed it?

That doesn't make it true.

Terminator~ apparently at least some muslims say islam is NOT of Abrahamic derivation. Kt, what is you opinion of this?


http://www.islamic-state.org/leaflets/october1601.htm

http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myths-arabs-descendants-of-ishmael.htm

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/521.htm

Bukhari:V5B59N727 "When Allah's Apostle became seriously sick, he started covering his face with a woolen sheet. When he felt short of breath, he removed it, and said, "That is so! Allah's curse be on Jews and Christians".

He cursed them from his death bed. That puts discredit on 29:046...When Mohammad got power, he quit being so nice.

On top of that, his Allah and their Allah are not the same Allah no matter what Mohammad said.

King Tolerance....

Dare I ask, what in the hell is a "Abrahamic based religion"?

Your creativity to impress yourself wears real thin when it comes to sharing knowledge and facts with others.

I don't see "not" being able to choose who is right from wrong as a strength that I would brag about.

The line is in the sand_______________________

pick a side and stick to it. Be willing to find out if you made the correct choice or not.

When it comes to peoples lifes, a backbone is reguired, and cannot be checked at the door.

Thanks for the above links Gary!

King Troll:

"Your assignment is to look this one up and get back to me."

Do you think I take 'assignments' from a halfwit? Nothing but arrogance and stupidity! You are really the Mohammedan prototype!

KT:
"1. You come on here hating Islam and Muslims becuase you think they are barbarians."

Term responds: They prove it to me (and to themselves) every day, 24/7! If only the facts wouldn't defeat your denials ! Baboons are more civilized! (and less of a threat)

"2. You get into my face because I come with a message of tolerance and understanding."

We know the answer to that. Islamic 'tolerance' is genocide, murder, terror, dhimmitude, slavery.

My answer is mass-deportation, sooner the better.

Some good advice, KT, free of charge:

Please, please KT:

Do use UHU to glue your coffee-filter tight to the skull.

Are you using screws right now?

I fear some of them might be loose, that's bad news...
And you know which way to fart...

Where is the ACLU? Their always around when we don't need them, how about now.

Does no one in authority realize that these muslims are using this "sensitivity" training as "proselitizing".

I don't see the NAACP educating our police officers. I don't see the Christian Colition educating our police officers.

I know lots and lots of police officers and they are trying to find out "who within the Police Officers Union" brought this about. They don't agree and don't want it, and will not go through with the training.

I know officers across the US that will refuse this. When enough officers get organized they will replace the people within the union that is organizing this or should.

Remember it was the Police Officers Union that came out endorsing John Kerry. And there was a big public riff with law enforcement officers saying that their union did not have their vote.

If this is being organized by the State Department and handed down to local and state law enforcement then we should know this also. Our local and state law enforcement do not have to this.

Does anyone know who organized or started this? Every article so far that I have read never says WHO within the police. I think we should bring them out into the light.

And what scandals is the article talking about? G-Bay was about the koran, and that is not a scandal. Abu Ghraib was a violation of civil rights, and that is not a scandal, that is breaking the law.

Give the police the facts about Islam, period.

No 'sensitivity' needed to stop a father who is trying to kill his daughter to restore the family 'honor'.

No 'sensitivity' needed to stop a husband attempting to throw acid in his wife's face.

No 'sensitivity' needed to find a cache of weapons, bomb-making materials, jihadist propaganda and fake identity documents.

Let the Muslims in America be 'sensitive' to the Bill of Rights, 'sensitive' to their adopted land and the mores of the society whose feedom-loving, tolerant and creative individuals do not care what Muslims do, as long as it doesn't violate the laws. Or doesn't involve treason, undermining the culture, and plotting terrorism.

The U.S. cops are not the religious police of Saudi Arabia.

They are to be civil, if possible, but to be effective, as needed.

(They can be sensitive to their spouses when they get home.)

How many religions are practiced in America? I'm not sure, but I know there are dozens. Muslims comprise less than 1% of our population and just look at the turmoil they are causing. Can you imagine what it will be like when there really are 7 million of them? Or ten million? Or, God forbid, 20 million?

What other religions have demanded the outrageous concessions, changes, CONSTANT ATTENTION, that muslims demand? I know of none. If not for the ongoing endeavors overseas, I don't think these incessant demands from American muslims would even be noticed. But we must show the world, esp. the Islamic world, how fair and just we are. We must prove to them that we bend over backwards for muslims, both here and abroad. The stupid, senseless, waste of American lives and money in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't enough; we must grovel to and appease our enemies in our own country.

This is absolutely outrageous and if it should actually happen, what next? Sensitivity training for Hindus, Mexicans, Vietnamese, Wiccans, Chinese, Satanists? I can't think of a better way to discourage decent people from seeking careers in law enforcement. They're already underpaid and overstressed and with a few more asinine demands, they'll just say to hell with it. Political correctness has already ruined several large city police departments; why don't we just turn Homeland Security and law enforcement over to C.A.I.R.? It seems that 1% of the total American population, muslims, are in control already.

The term "people of the Book" always brings to mind "people of color", because both phrases are often used by apologists of injustice to pretend that everything is OK. People of the Book might be "protected", but they are still Dhimmis. We must accept nothing less than full equality for all, including our friends of the Atheist, Hindu, Sikh, and other faiths, who (by omission) don't even qualify for second-class citizenship under Sharia law, by my reading (if I'm wrong about that point please explain).

We must not be patronized by phrases like "People of the Book". The Southern USA racists got away with platitudes like "separate but equal" for far too long. The concept of Dhimmitude may have been progressive in the 7th century. Mohammed may have been enlightened by recognizing the common elements of belief between Islam and its antecedents. However, that was the 7th century. Jewish and Christian theologians can look to the books of Moses and draw positive lessons from them, without taking them as instructions to impose that ancient theocracy on the modern world. We need a system of Islamic theology that can do the same. Reading KT's posts, it would seem that such a system is with us, since only "radicals" want to institute Sharia and oppress their fellow citizens as Dhimmis. At the risk of sounding boring, I ask again: if the "radicals" are really so radical, then please direct me to the mainstream who have refuted this "radical" interpretation and shown that secular government and respect for the UDHR is more consistent with the true message of the Qur'an.

Viking:

You are answering your own questions as you make them:
The Atheist, the Hindu, the Buddhist, the Sikh: none of them will ever come and cut your throat.

No Jew will ever knock on your door and ask you to become a Jew, I promise you!

Really, you are so typical for those who must be pushed uphill kicking and screaming to get over their libertarian 'disease' while you already know! Who are we fighting, what are we fighting for?

Islam has no 'radicals'. Islam has only Islam, the Koran and the submission of the brainwashed idiots that follow the cult. KT is doing his 'duty': Kitman & Taqiyya, appeasement, lies, 'let's all cuddle up beause we are so close in our abrahamic faith' BS.

We don't want to believe that the living s@*t has come among us, we dont want to believe that a deranged, absurd and vile ideology can drive a billion people to murder, terror and the perpetual lies and the hatred they suck in with the mothers milk makes them the monsters that they are.

But that is Islam. 'Just another religion' says KT.
YOU KNOW it's not like that. YOU KNOW because of Bali, Beslan 9/11, Madrid, Moscow, Israel Hijacks carbombs TERROR in every eonceivable way that Islam is not a religion: Islam is terror, the Koran is the guidebook and the Mohammedans are the perpetrators as well as the willing victims.

I could go on but you don't pay me and I spend enough time on this already.

In the West, Muslims should be trained to be sensitive to us. Otherwise we are being set up, being trained to be dhimmis.







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