As the Man With No Eyes would say, You know, some men you just can't reach. In "Lodi, California Series Part II - Bad Faith Exchange With Islam," at PipelineNews (thanks to Mackie), William A. Mayer and Beila Rabinowitz detail how two of the non-Muslim religious leaders who signed a Declaration of Peace a few years back along with the ice cream jihad imam still haven't awakened to the fact that they were just pawns in his game.
June 27, 2005 – San Francisco, CA – PipeLineNews - On March 24, 2002 six religious leaders signed a Declaration of Peace in Lodi, California.That declaration read in part:
“We are six people gathered for a common purpose. Among us are a Jewish Rabbi, a Christian Minister, a Muslim Imam, and a believer from each faith. We acknowledge that fanatics and extremists have, throughout history, committed acts of terror and inhumanity against us all. Together, we repudiate these acts, and declare then to be contrary to our Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths.”Although the full import of the Lodi, California terror related prosecutions is yet to be determined, at least two of the signatories on that document - who seem to have been exploited by members of the tainted Lodi Mosque and Farooqia Islamic Center - are in full and total denial.
To the contrary, they are seeking more of the same, as their correspondence with PipeLineNews indicates:
Rabbi Jason Gwasdoff, of Temple Israel, Stockton.
“I do not feel that I was taken advantage of in any way. I think the sentiments expressed in the declaration of peace were sincerely held by everyone who signed it. I do not assume the Imams are guilty of anything, and have yet to hear anything that would convince me otherwise. They are being held on immigration charges, and truthfully, if it weren't for the investigation of the Hayats I doubt they would be in jail today.I think it is very important that we continue the interfaith dialogue with the Muslim community. We have much to learn about each other, and I have found that by talking and establishing relationships we dispel a lot of ignorance, and build important bridges.”
Pastor Norm Mowrey, formerly of First United Methodist Church, Lodi.
“I feel very positive about the Muslim Community in Lodi. It was wonderful journey with Jewish, Muslim and Christian friends that bought about the Declaration of Peace. That journey continues. We reject violence and terrorism now even more than before. If ever we needed to support each other it is now. I pray for my Muslim brothers and sisters in Lodi. I absolutely do not feel like I was taken advantage of in any way. Interfaith dialogue must continue. I am working here on the Monterey Peninsula to bring together Muslims, Christians (both Protestants and Catholics) and Jews. The journey will continue. We need to walk with each other during this most difficult time. This experience only points up the need for continuing understanding, trust, and friendship.”
Nice to see that none of these interfaith religious types have yet bothered to read the Koran.
"Don't confuse me with the facts." -as someone once said.
The motto of the 21st Century, thus far.
These interfaith types are blinded by ideals of their own faiths and don't want to understand the truth of Islam because it would destroy their illusions of the brotherhood of man.
The addiction to 'peace' through 'interfaith dialogue' seems a lot like a drug addiction: it feels so good, until things go so bad. And, it seems, that one is not ready to admit that things have gone bad until death comes knocking on the door.
The desire to be "nice" is a real killer.
So it was a Jew, a bible-thumper, and a jihadi? I guess that covers "everybody."
Good thing that there are no atheists, pagans, Sikhs, Buddhists, Hindus, Jains, Parsis, Yezidi, or Animists.
Or at least, none that are worth considering.
Is there no one in the congregations of either of these idiots who will demand, or force, their removal? Or do their congregants really fit a bit too closely the "sheep" who follow their shepherd, sheepishly?
I read the title of this post as 'Duped dhimmies still pasties' and wondered if the Mohammedans had turned to cannibalism.
Mmm. Better come back when my brain's in gear.
Just keep acting like nothing is wrong with these folks and they are not going to be encouraged to change. This is Goldie Locke’s in reverse.
Up here in Canada we have a plethora of sheeple( people that are sheeps) that got sucked into the CAIR's version of the Peaceful Islam and
loving Allah from the Quran,below is a link to
the son of our Prime Minister(Trudeau) putting up bail money for a suspected terrorist being held
for security reasons.
Seems that this Syrian Muslim has ties to Saudis that finance terrorism, but lets not pre-Judge this man since he hasn't actually killed anyone yet in Canada,innocent until proven guilty you know...the PM's son also went to Iraq to make a Michael Moore type Mock-u-mentary to show the
good side of Saddam and the great life the Iraqis had befor those occupiers from the "Great Satan" nation of America came and ruined their peaceful
lives.
Our Arts and Culture industry feeds off handouts from the Federal Government and not toeing the line on Liberal Policy can get you cut off Public money,CBC is a classic example and most of their
attacks on Americans during debate shows are the "Experts" that have a book on the market that is usually all crap but exists from grants and
handouts of Taxpayers dollars.
In fact the 1 billion dollars sucked off from the Taxpayers to run the CBC is mainly salaries and benefits as well as about 70% of the employee's being in management, our Military is the same with over 75% of the forces being CO's
and of the balance that wear boots,80% of them are support staff so don't expect Canada's
battle-ready 6000 soldiers to do much when we still have to heavy-lift Airplanes or even 1 tank for our tank division that now uses APC's until tanks finally arrive.
As long as the Bozo's in charge up here in Canada still deny we have a terror threat,and still do nothing about the massive number of Fake-passports or forged ID's being used by Muslims
exploiting Canada's system. The US has every right to seal up the borders until we solve the
issue of Islamists getting refugee status here
and the idiot celebrities that blindly fall for the Taqqiya veneer used by CAIR to plan that BIG attack that's forbidden within Islam and the Quran.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1119892341330_115301541/?hub=Canada
ala-sux: The US has every right to seal up the borders until we solve the issue of Islamists getting refugee status here.
As for those who seem all kissy-huggy with terrorists, a better tack is to very publically make them and their womanfolk honorary members of the CCC: the Committe for Compulsory Clitoridectomies, or more crudely, the Cut Clit Club.
OT but on the subject of jihad, why the media is pro-islamic.
http://www.afsi.org/MEDIA/reasonforbias.htm
And what is up with the Eurabian BBC today?
The prominence of this story:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4625355.stm
The conviction of an Israeli soldier, in an Israeli military court, which the BBC does not mention until have way through the story. This story got top billing on WorldOnline, and now is still playing among the top three stories the in entire world. What an important story. And why? As the story makes clear, toward the end, there is a larger moral purpose to this story; this is not just about the conviction of this soldier. In the voice of the victim's sister:
"Tom was rescuing a child," she said, adding that what Hayb did "was the most despicable action you could carry out".
Taysir Hayb tried to attack journalists as he left court But she added: "He's been hung out to dry by the Israeli army who have not taken responsibility for the poor investigation and absolute lack of accountability."
Mr Hurndall's father, who had been sitting in court within touching distance of Hayb, said the guilty verdict was the right one.
But he also expressed concern about the "culture in which this incident took place".
That's the problem the BBC wants to 'educate' the public about: the culture of the Israeli army. And why is the army the problem? A citizen's army. Why isn't it just said? The problem is Israel. That is why the problem gets top billing, because the story is intended to advance the Eurabian BBC thesis that Israel itself is the problem. And the BBC does its best to drive this point home at the end of the story:
"We're concerned that there is a policy which seems to be prevalent in Gaza, amongst the Israeli soldiers and army, that they feel able to shoot civilians really without any accountability whatsoever."
Civil liberties group Human Rights Watch last week accused Israel of investigating less than 5% of hundreds of cases of Palestinians killed since 2000.
Israeli authorities say there is no policy of tolerating the shooting of civilians."
Yes indeed, and the Israeli authorities lie: that is the implicature of the last claim. Jews are the problem. They kill. And then they lie.
And this is the story the BBC wants to give top billing. This is one of the most important stories in the world, yes indeed. Eurabia lives.
"This story got top billing on WorldOnline, and now is still playing among the top three stories the in entire world."
--- from a posting above
Well, of course it did. The BBC is bad. The BBC World Service, which answers not to Bush House but to the Foreign Office and its Arabists, is even worse.
Think of all the Muslim personnel. Are they known for taking even a pretend stab at objectivity, anywhere they may be? Think of Robin Lustig, or Judy Swallow, with that hideous voice and fake laugh, and that grating personality, or nasty Lyse Doucet, or that Mr. Bennett-Jones who loves to grill those he regards with hostility (you should have heard his nasty treatment of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but she held her own, and then some).
But really, to truly understand the antisemitic and anti-American and for that matter anti-British BBC World Service, you must find out about John Simpson, the man who the other day was busy describing Rafsanjani, that monster, as a "moderate." Possibly the way that Goebeels was a "moderate" compared to Hitler, or Beria to Stalin. Simpson is a good friend of the anti-Israel conspiracy theorist, and promoter of Mordecai Vanunu, Peter Hounam. Hounam wrote a book called something lie "The Cyanide Conspiracy" --about "Zionists" in the American government and so on. A book not out of place at any Nazi webpage. Simpson liked the book so much he wrote an introduction to it.
Google, for more, "Posted by Hugh" and "jihadwatch" and "John Simpson." See what you find.
That's the BBC World (On His Imam's) Service.
"This story got top billing on WorldOnline, and now is still playing among the top three stories the in entire world."
--- from a posting above
Well, of course it did. The BBC is bad. The BBC World Service, which answers not to Bush House but to the Foreign Office and its Arabists, is even worse.
Think of all the Muslim personnel. Are they known for taking even a pretend stab at objectivity, anywhere they may be? Think of Robin Lustig, or Judy Swallow, with that hideous voice and fake laugh, and that grating personality, or nasty Lyse Doucet, or that Mr. Bennett-Jones who loves to grill those he regards with hostility (you should have heard his nasty treatment of Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but she held her own, and then some).
But really, to truly understand the antisemitic and anti-American and for that matter anti-British BBC World Service, you must find out about John Simpson, the man who the other day was busy describing Rafsanjani, that monster, as a "moderate." Possibly the way that Goebeels was a "moderate" compared to Hitler, or Beria to Stalin. Simpson is a good friend of the anti-Israel conspiracy theorist, and promoter of Mordecai Vanunu, Peter Hounam. Hounam wrote a book called something lie "The Cyanide Conspiracy" --about "Zionists" in the American government and so on. A book not out of place at any Nazi webpage. Simpson liked the book so much he wrote an introduction to it.
Google, for more, "Posted by Hugh" and "jihadwatch" and "John Simpson." See what you find.
That's the BBC World (On His Imam's) Service.
Heyb (the soldier convicted of Tom Hurndall's murder) is a Bedouin, not a Jew, but then possibly some of them are thoroughly sickened by the pro-terrorist "intervenors" like Hurndall and Rachel Corrie who aid and abet even greater violence by providing "human shield" services to the bomb smugglers and martyrdom operation controllers.
Meanwhile, we all know how little the BBC has to say about the wanton acts of violence that have claimed the lives of so many unarmed civilians perpetrated by the "militants".
HonestReporting.com notes the successful campaign of an HR subscriber, Anat Tcherikover, in getting the Beeb to correct what it had posted on its web of the very important UN resolution 242.
>Rabbi Jason Gwasdoff, of Temple Israel, Stockton.
>I think it is very important that we continue the interfaith dialogue
Sure. It's the only religion he's got.
>Heyb (the soldier convicted of Tom Hurndall's murder) is a Bedouin, not a Jew, but then possibly some of them are thoroughly sickened by the pro-terrorist "intervenors"
Not merely "sickened" - try "blown up". Many Bedouin soldiers have been killed recently.
It is still noteworthy that no Jew has actes thus, although it is possible that the conviction is just the latest of Sharon's perversions of justicve and democracy.
>"Tom was rescuing a child," she said
A child obviously imported by the Arabs to be in harms way, if true.