Another one from the Which Side Are You On Department, from Pakistan's Daily Times, with thanks to Nicolei:
LAHORE: Al Qaeda suspect Hafiz Ehsan Saeed's father died during Ehsan's detention in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, but Ehsan said that although he mourned the loss, he would go for Jihad again if given the chance.
Great! Free him!
"I was quite upset when I heard the news (of my father's death) but I will sacrifice anything for Islam," Saeed told Daily Times on Monday. Saeed is one of the 17 jihadis released by the Punjab government after keeping them imprisoned for nine months after their return from Guantanamo Bay.Talking to Daily Times, most of the freed men reiterated Saeed's resolve to "go for Jihad again." They said they would sacrifice anything for Islam even though they were tortured at Guantanamo.
Yeah, like the old naked women on the chest torture. The horror! The horror!
Their relatives rejoiced that their kindred had been released, but added that the men remain committed to their faith. The men were between the ages of 25 to 30 years and seemed to be in good health. They were released after their relatives submitted affidavits and sureties that they would not be involved in anti-state activities.United States authorities arrested the men from Afghanistan on suspicion of being linked to Al Qaeda and kept them in Guantanamo prison for three years. Nine months ago, they were found innocent of these charges and given to Pakistani authorities. Authorities here detained these men while intelligence agencies investigated them further. The men were found not involved in any crime in Pakistan.
All right. Then what jihad are going to "again"?
Asked why the men were kept in Pakistani prisons after being cleared by US authorities, Maulana Tahir Mahmood Ashrafi, the Punjab chief minister's adviser on religious affairs, said local authorities wanted to investigate whether the men had been brainwashed and were still involved in any terrorist activity...
Yep. Gotta watch out for that brainwashing. It's unfortunately common in Pakistan.
Implant GPS locatable chips into these guys, under the skin. My dog has one and my cell phone has one.
You could track their movement.
And if need be, send a missile right down that specific chips identification number.
Problem fixed.
Hopefully some of these guys have turned, and perhaps we can begin to penetrate the inner sanctums of their terror networks. At the very least, we can begin to conduct great psy-ops and have them all questioning who is loyal and who is not... These terrorist pikers have no idea what kinds of cool things we can do to F them up -- Their arrogance, and their silly delusion that the moondog Allah is sufficient to bring us down will be THEIR undoing!
Did I say "Moondog"? I meant of course "MOONGOD" by I like the Fruedian slip... Somehow a more befitting description for a gutter religion god....
old naked women on the chest torture.
That'd b heaven m8. (With sincere apologies to all feminists round here)
Fine. Hopefully, one of those schmucks will return to the US, pull a terrorist stunt, get caught, and end up on a prison gurney with a needle in his arm. And, BTW, the needle should be greased with lard for ease of entry.
All integrations are conducted through inexperienced linguists with questionable loyalties, which tends to taint the whole venting process. Pashto and Dari linguists, unlike Arabic, are almost 100% Muslims. I met some of them and they seemed to be a bunch of tribal hillbillies with no education and extreme devotion to Islam. We have a few DLI (Defense Language Institute) trained linguists and some highly cleared officers from that part of the world, but they are not enough.
Companies rushed to hire those near-illiterate Islamists in droves. These companies include Lockheed Martin, its subsidiary TITAN Inc, its many subcontractors, ZKD, McNeil Inc, SMC Consulting, World Wide Linguists, and the big bohemia, KBR-Halliburton. Many of the recruitment operations of these companies are directed by Islamist executives. It seems that most of the so called moderates (Islamist-lite) have opted to stay home, it seems also that it is now very difficult for any Christian applicant to get any but all of the worst assignments. Muslims have a grip on recruiting and language testing and there is much third-world style fudging going on.
There is something that stinks to high heaven about depending on incompetence in the best scenario and treason in the worst.
have_mercy: Muslims have a grip on recruiting and language testing and there is much third-world style fudging going on.
There is something that stinks to high heaven about depending on incompetence in the best scenario and treason in the worst.
You sound dangerously anti-Bushite. Certain people here will denounce you as a Muslim-loving leftist for being so.
Hey,put the tracking chip in their Quran covers and sit back and track it all the way to
that suicide car bomber in Iraq .
Today on a CBC special about Guatanomo prison
it was made clear by a guard that the Muslim detainees were offended by "Christians" touching their Qurans which they saw as blasphemy against Allah and Muhammed.
So these are the peaceful innocent victims
that once released will go back to their tolerant God-loving lives and make the world more kinder
and just,OH,and if those filthy Christians and Jewish pigs touch a Quran it will their fault for inciting the violence and murders by Muslims defending their Peaceful religion.
Too bad the leftist tree-huggers don't tour the Cuban part of that area and see what a real Gulag
looks like,I guess the hospital/jails for aids victims that prevent the spreading of the virus are just fop and meet all UN standards for Human rights.
Beside the major issue of worthless and often disloyal linguists, there is the issue of poor command and control on the part of military intelligence. Many officers are not of the caliper that we need: they do not know the languages, and the do not have the perquisite gumshoe skills and intelligence. Many were old cold war warriors who made it thus far by the seat of their pants. Others were assigned because they took a bit of Arabic and had the right clearance. Nice guys and loyal Americans who made great sacrifices, to be sure, but they just cannot hack it with hardened and deceptive Islamists.
In all the integrations that I witnessed, I did not see an integration that would get anything out of a 10 year old. Integrated Iraqis seemed to have the upper hand for the most part because they are used to extremely harsh measures. In the beginning they would be frightened but it did not take them long to figure us out and know that they will not be touched.
I mean what can you do to a hardened criminal who have seen the inside of a Saddam-era prison and now freelances with insurgents or an Islamic fanatic who is ready to die for Allah?... A Gush darned nothing, especially after the spectacular failure of the Abu Ghraib experiment. I mean the only Arab governments with success against Islamists were Baathist Syria and Iraq, because they had a no hold bar policies. They did not mind driving tanks into mosques, bombing whole towns, mass extermination, collective punishment, the torture, rape, and murder of Islamists and their entire families.
I mean we are fighting with one hand behind our back: we are preventing from bringing our righteous force to bear on the enemy due to PC considerations, we do not have adequate manpower, and we are throwing a whole a lot of Muslim in the keg. So, we can not play clean, we can not play dirty, and we can not play well… What are we supposed to do? Surrender!
Hey Loxias you said:
“You sound dangerously anti-Bushite. Certain people here will denounce you as a Muslim-loving leftist for being so.”
I say:
These people would be as misinformed or as disingenuous as those who still claim that Islam is the religion of peace. Besides, my loyalty is not for a man, whoever he me be, or for a political party; it is only for the good old USA. I did not say anything about Bush in particular though I think that members of his administrations did a lot of unwise PC policies to the determent of all of us.
Are you trying to throw a monkey wrench into this debate? I do not have a leftist bone in my body, which is not even the issue… Do not shoot the messenger.
Also Loxias, do not forget that some rightwing thinkers have criticized the administration on valid points. I mean Bush already has a bum rap from the left as Hilter-incarnate without doing anything to warrant it, quite the contrary. He should take the ball, run with it, and throw a touchdown. I mean enough kissy-kissy huggy-huggy stuff with CAIR, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, China, etc… Enough open borders… Enough pandering… Enough Islamic immigration… Enough Muslims in government… Enough helping the Muslims and the Chinese to dominate this century.
I do understand that roughly half the country is made up of bleeding heart liberals, the media is always on the administration’s back, and that this junction of American history is not brimming with men of the hour, but the administration was not nearly as tough as it should have been with those practicing Islamic deception from within and without, also with the non-Muslim countries who are taking us for suckers, i.e. China and Mexico.
A true patriot should never be apathetic or entirely satisfied with the performance of his/her government. Government should be subservient to the people and not the opposite. Government should keep the interest of its people supreme.
As I have emailed to-
president@whitehouse.gov
many times:
Return all Gitmo prisoners to Afghanistan. Give them field trials as "saboteurs, terrorists and spies". Line them up. And shoot them.
This fatalistic pussyfooting shows us to be world-historical idiots.
And only encourages the enemy.
(Dancing on their graves, optional.)
BigSleep:
Right on.
This falls under the "to be expected" catagory.
You can expect these terrorists to continue to rant, rave and lie about anything thats convienient to them at the time. They will all claim they have been subjected to the foulest tortures while in custody...you can also expect them rejoin the ranks (jihadists) with special recognition for being a Gitmo grad...sort of like prison noteriety...Zarqawi's in training.
"The men were found not involved in any crime in Pakistan". Thats because they are HERO'S in Pakistan, of course they didn't break any laws "there"!!!...Do these unfortunates actually believe they can splatter that kind of garbage
around, and no one will notice the smell?