From Reuters, "Iraq's al Qaeda warns against talks with govt-Web"
DUBAI - Iraq's al Qaeda vowed to kill anyone negotiating with the U.S.-backed Iraqi government in a Web statement on Tuesday, a sign the group was worried about possible divisions among its Sunni Muslim allies.The group led by Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was responding to what it said were reports that tribal leaders in Iraq's third-largest city Mosul, the scene of frequent outbreaks of guerrilla violence, were seeking talks.
"Liars claim that the sheikhs of tribes in Mosul plan to hand over mujahideen (holy fighters) and assist the crusaders and apostates, and we do not know which tribes or sheikhs they speak of," the Sunni Muslim group said.
"We will impose God's punishment on anyone who stands by the crusaders or becomes their ally or supports them. The righteous swords are unsheathed and hunger for blood," it said in a statement posted on an Islamist Web site.
The Iraqi government said on Sunday some rebels had approached it looking for peace terms but gave no details of who had made contact.
Zarqawi issued a similar warning in an audio tape attributed to him in April, referring to reports that U.S. and Iraqi officials had offered to negotiate with some militants...
The Shi'ite-led Iraqi government has often said it is willing to talk to rebels who stop fighting.
"We reiterate that there will be no dialogue with the Jews and Christians other than the sound of bullets, blood and fire," Al Qaeda Organization for Holy War in Iraq said in a separate Web statement.
"The righteous swords are unsheathed and hunger for blood." Can there be any doubt that we are observing the work of Satan and his adherents? This is the kind of behavior any sane rational person would attribute to the devil and not to God unless that sane rational person was in the employ of Satan. The killing for the glory of God is one of the most heinous forms of inhumanity, idolatry and criminality. Any religion that calls for, sympathizes or allows such conduct should itself be declared a crime against humanity. Should not their houses of worship be destroyed and their religious symbols smashed so that the "faithful" may be compelled to wonder whether they are praying to the wrong God?
Compared to these guys, savages and beasts seem like the Hakawi Indians.
Alas, Robert, I remember them well! ;)
This seems to me the sign of desperation. When the Allied troops broke into Germany in March-April 1945, they found themselves walking through woods and roads that were thick with dozens, even hundreds of dead German soldiers hanging from branches and lamp-posts; it was the effect of the final Nazi rampage, turned not even against Jews or aliens but against Germans, to kill anyone who even looked like they might be prepared to surrender. As Trevor-Roper pointed out, Hitler had his own brother-in-law Fegelein murdered after the briefest of show trials, merely for trying to leave Berlin. Maybe Zarqawi and his followers feel loyalties around them shifting.
They talk big, but almost never have the courage for a stand-up fight.
Yeah: If only we would give them some of their own medicine!
If we only had the resolve to pay them back in kind!
To quote Nietsche: 'THE WILL TO RULE! WE HAVE LOST THE WILL TO RULE!'
To Quote Spengler from Asia times:
They'll demand a fight to the death and Washington will reluctantly have to oblige.
Zarqawi is just one malignant cell.
The source of them all is the tumor of the Koran.
You don't simply fight against the symptoms, but need to address the source:
The poisonous literalism allowed by Muslim clerics globally for the use of hateful suras from their faith's root document.
If we do not have informed leaders in the West (who have read the Muslim 'holy' works) calling this "fundamentalism" within Islam a core of madness based on "hateful misinterpretation of the Koran", we are simply swatting mosquitoes like Zarqawi and Bin Laden, one by one, and not draining the Sura swamp that spawns them.
The quagmire of the Koran has to be turned from a miasma and breeding ground for maniacs and into a way to irrigate something healthier within Islam.
A Garden of Hangings into a Hanging Gardens.
Through an end of "literalism" and a grasp of the "metaphorical", "poetic", "historical" and "symbolic" understandings of the very same root phrases. (Sura 9:5, etc.)
He who controls the meaning controls the results.
Any muslim "imam" who issues a "fatwa" calling for the death of a non-muslim should immediately become a legitimate target, and I mean that literally. Most muslims are mere automatons who carry out the will of their leaders without question. The muslim priests call the shots.
" The righteous swords are unsheathed and hunger for blood," it said in a statement...
Well, I'm glad to see that the writer remembered to include "hunger for blood", in his threats.
Often muslims either forget or omit, that basic
Islamic hunger. Of course, when you are trying to convince infidels that Islam is peace, you got to low key that bloodthirsty stuff.
Islam has this big abyss in it. Peace on one hand, blood on the other. Since muslims seem to wring their hands a lot, peace and blood ideology mix. The bloody extermination of enemies of Allah is peace. The bloody expansion of Islam is peace.
Now, is that twisted or what?
The first poster on this thread, may have it right. Even if you dont believe in Satan, these bloody ideologies are Satanic none the less...
Meanwhile, the useful idiots wring their hands over the evil done to korans, that we gave them, in Gitmo!
I don’t recall where I heard this, “you are what you worship”
I think to myself, don’t Moslems worship a black rock?
Maybe that explains their overall lack of discernment?
I wonder how many Mosques in America are teaching this same idea? "We will impose God's punishment on anyone who stands by the crusaders or becomes their ally or supports them. The righteous swords are unsheathed and hunger for blood,"
Jeff
"The righteous swords are unsheathed and hunger for blood." Can there be any doubt that we are observing the work of Satan and his adherents? This is the kind of behavior any sane rational person would attribute to the devil and not to God unless that sane rational person was in the employ of Satan. The killing for the glory of God is one of the most heinous forms of inhumanity, idolatry and criminality. Any religion that calls for, sympathizes or allows such conduct should itself be declared a crime against humanity. Should not their houses of worship be destroyed and their religious symbols smashed so that the "faithful" may be compelled to wonder whether they are praying to the wrong God?
Muslims imitate the behavior of their blood thirsty "prophet" mohammed who was a murderer, rapist, pedophile and thief.I cannot help but recall the behavior of blood thirsty Palestinians who gouged out the eyes of two Isreali soldiers before tearing them limb from limb. Contrast this savage behavior with the conduct of Jesus Christ when he was arrested by the Romans. During the arrest Peter took out his sword and hacked off the ear of one of the Roman soldiers.Jesus condemned Peter's violence and restored the soldiers severed ear. Jesus did this even though he knew the soldiers were taking him away to die.Bible prophecy says that before Armageddon and the second coming of Christ, false religion (which is from Satan) will be exposed and destroyed.
"We reiterate that there will be no dialogue with the Jews and Christians other than the sound of bullets, blood and fire"
You can call al Qaeda anything you want - But you can not call them liars. The 'moderate' Muslims are the liars. allah says so
Any religion that calls for, sympathizes or allows such conduct should itself be declared a crime against humanity.
Posted by: David England
Yeah! Where O where are aLL of those 'righteous' Rights groups at?
Too busy blaming everyone else
You don't simply fight against the symptoms, but need to address the source
we are simply swatting mosquitoes like Zarqawi and Bin Laden, one by one, and not draining the Sura swamp that spawns them
Posted by: BigSleep
AMEN!
Unless we identify the cause? - there can be no hope for a successful solution.
The muslim priests call the shots. Posted by: Infidel33
and they get it from their Koran
The bloody extermination of enemies of Allah is peace. The bloody expansion of Islam is peace.
Now, is that twisted or what?
Posted by: duh_swami
It's VERY twisted!
Meanwhile, the useful idiots wring their hands over the evil done to korans
Posted by: Dumbo
Goes to show - just what kind of power the Koran has over them
I wonder how many Mosques in America are teaching this same idea? "We will impose God's punishment on anyone who stands by the crusaders or becomes their ally or supports them. The righteous swords are unsheathed and hunger for blood," Jeff
They HAVE to be preaching their Koran - OR they're NOT Muslims:
004.101 When ye travel through the earth, there is no blame on you if ye shorten your prayers, for fear the Unbelievers May attack you: For the Unbelievers are unto you open enemies.
009.005 fight and slay the Pagans ''''wherever'''' ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.
008.067 It is not fitting for a prophet that he should have prisoners of war [slay them] until he hath thoroughly subdued the land. {That's bona-fide TREASON - in America
002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you and that ye love a thing [peace] which is bad for you?
009.039 Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place.
047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers in fight [jihad], smite at their necks. [Behead them!] {Vicious Murder!
There are MANY more vicious commands - So you can bet big - that they're preching unlawful things in every mosque. They are - if they're preaching their Koran
Where's AmNasty at? The Council of Europe? The New York Rights Group?
They're the ones that want to establish a one world court.
They want to 'play kings of the world' and yet they refuse to condemn the most BRUTAL laws ever written - laws that EVEN violate their own humanitarian laws.
Where are those COWARDS????
People? Let them have it! Break their ear drums!!!