Sharia alert from the Arab News, with thanks to Designnut:
SHARJAH, 4 June 2005 — An unmarried Indian couple have been sentenced to one year in prison for hugging and kissing in a taxi in the Emirate of Fujairah in the north of the UAE. A report in the local press identified the man as Anis Balnabar and the woman as Bani Bent.It is the first such case reported in the UAE in recent years. According to the report, Bani Bent, who works at a national’s house in Fujairah, came out of the building and flagged a taxi. A short distance ahead, she picked up the man and both got into the back seat of the vehicle.
The taxi driver was told to drive to a park. As he was driving, the driver spied through the rear mirror that the couple were hugging and kissing each other. He turned the car and drove straight to the nearest police station....
Police questioned the two. The couple admitted that they were lovers and hugging and kissing each other in the car.
Police took them into custody and referred the case to prosecutors who charged the man with “indecent assault by consent,” and the woman with facilitating the offense. A court in Fujairah sentenced both to one year each in prison.
I guess if he had been beating her in the back seat of a taxi that would have been fine.
This can't be true. Please tell me this is a wind up.
Even the goddamned Commies and Nazis weren't this crazy!
As far as I'm concerned, this only tells us that this cult needs to be driven back to the Saudi desert to rot for a thousand years.
Maybe the sand in their shorts will irritate them back to sanity in a millenium.
If not, make it two thousand years.
Madness, madness, madness, madness, madness!
(I sure hope they gave the taxi driver a lousy tip.)
This couple knew they were in Allah La La land and should have known and obeyed the 14th century statute. They deserve a year in the slammer for being stupid enough to be living there in the first place. And sadly, your spot on with your comment Carolyn.
Where is Amnesia Intern'l on this one?
Where is Irene Khans 'concern'- why is this muhammedan B*#@h not jumping up and down over such bizarre 'laws' in countries which are our 'allies?'
Ah, 'it's the LAW!' We must 'respect the law of a desert 'kingdom'- it's all so superior to our 'manmade laws'-
I think I am becoming a radical anti-Mohammedan myself.
Well, at least they didn't cut their heads off.....
But really, ONE YEAR in prison for kissing in a taxi? And these people take themselves seriously? They are all mad.
I wonder what the penalty would be if 2 Eskimos met in a taxi cab in the UAE?
He should have married her when she was nine, then everything would have been fine.
Compare and contrast with the PREVIOUS post for a full look at the divine consistency and justice of Sharia in action.
Simple answer - don't go to Saudi Arabia, for any reason.
I dont imagine there is much tourism, but there are plenty of foreign workers in the country. Many people from Third World countries dont have much choice, they need the money, but for Westerners, there is a clear choice.
Why go to this 7th century hellhole, no matter what amount of money is being offered. Everyone I know who has worked there has said the same thing - these people are total fools, most don't know how to change a lightbulb. The whole country would collapse without foreign workers.
That sounds good to me. Let it collapse. I dont have much sympathy for anyone who willingly goes to S.A., either as a tourist or as a worker. To voluntarily live in, or visit, a country with sharia law, where keystone cop 'religious police' patrol the streets, where you get a year in prison for kissing, (but beheading is quite ok) is condoning the whole bizarre belief system.
A year for what?? The maniacs are in charge of the asylum.
Where's King Tolerance when you need him?
Dianac gives wise advice...dont go to Saudi Arabia for any reason...I'm cancelling my flight to Mecca right away...Allah knows best...
You'd be shocked to know there are many Filipina nurses who, being naive, see the Middle East as a viable option for work. Few of them really bother with cultural research so they're basically clueless as to what they're getting into. They talk about the good pay, the "incentives" and so on. I take it upon myself to be the voice of reason. Listening patiently, awaiting my turn to speak. Then comes the reality check. You can practically hear the air whiz out of their ballons when I tell them about what non-muslim women must endure under Sharia law. I've opened their eyes and, at the least, given them something to think about.
If they have access to the Web, I recommend they go to sites like JW and DW for the stuff they won't read about in the brochures.
Osama bin Laden's sister in law (I forget her full name, Mrs Something Bin Ladin, her daughter is Wafa the pop singer) wrote a book which has been mentioned on JW. In it she told of a Saudi man arrested because he picked up his cloaked and pregnant wife when she fainted in the heat.
And we all know of the deaths of the schoolgirls in Mecca when the religious police would not let them out of the blazing school without their abaya on and their Fathers to collect them. Or let the firemen in as they would be mixing with women.
Wow... I thought that the UAE was somewhat more permissive than Saudi Arabia. But wait. There’s more to it.
In UAE, women can drive and do not have to wear the hijab. However, there are officious folk that roam about looking for "indecency", analogous in spirit (but with somewhat less power) than the Saudi religious police (a.k.a. mutawwa'een). These guys will lecture locals and colored folk when they perceive actions that fail to meet puritan standards.
Below is a summary of decency rules from http://www.legal500.com/devs/emirates/cc/uacc_008.htm
However, US and British passport holders (easily identifiable as Caucasian) are seldom harassed, since their embassies are somewhat more concerned about the rights of their citizens. Another reason is that the UAE is more cognizant of their economy's dependence on Western trade. Pissing off a US person is more likely to dissuade other US citizens from working/doing business there. As it is, to entice Western brainpower/resourcefulness/expertise, salaries and incentives are great. Westerners are often not harassed for the previously mentioned fears of diplomatic reprisal and unwanted negative publicity, such as what Malaysia is now enduring (in the form of reduced tourism) after they sentenced a woman for marijuana trafficking with inadequate due process and representation.
The case with Indians, Filipinos, et al, (identifiable by their appearance) is different. They come from economies where the average income – in their home countries for the skill levels they are employed in – is lesser, sometimes by a factor of five to ten! The sporadic occurrence of such prosecutions (or persecutions, heh heh) is not enough to deter others of their nationality to continue to pour into the UAE for employment.
The UAE “law” enforcement (and “justice” system) applies rules differently to these foreign nationalities. Yes, over here, we’d call this “racism”. No ACLU there, folks. Shariah is alive and well, and is enforced on Indians and others from that side of the world.
Wow... I thought that the UAE was somewhat more permissive than Saudi Arabia. But wait. There’s more to it.
In UAE, women can drive and do not have to wear the hijab. However, there are officious folk that roam about looking for "indecency", analogous in spirit (but with somewhat less power) than the Saudi religious police (a.k.a. mutawwa'een). These guys will lecture locals and colored folk when they perceive actions that fail to meet puritan standards.
Below is a summary of decency rules from http://www.legal500.com/devs/emirates/cc/uacc_008.htm
However, US and British passport holders (easily identifiable as Caucasian) are seldom harassed, since their embassies are somewhat more concerned about the rights of their citizens. Another reason is that the UAE is more cognizant of their economy's dependence on Western trade. Pissing off a US person is more likely to dissuade other US citizens from working/doing business there. As it is, to entice Western brainpower/resourcefulness/expertise, salaries and incentives are great. Westerners are often not harassed for the previously mentioned fears of diplomatic reprisal and unwanted negative publicity, such as what Malaysia is now enduring (in the form of reduced tourism) after they sentenced a woman for marijuana trafficking with inadequate due process and representation.
The case with Indians, Filipinos, et al, (identifiable by their appearance) is different. They come from economies where the average income – in their home countries for the skill levels they are employed in – is lesser, sometimes by a factor of five to ten! The sporadic occurrence of such prosecutions (or persecutions, heh heh) is not enough to deter others of their nationality to continue to pour into the UAE for employment.
The UAE “law” enforcement (and “justice” system) applies rules differently to these foreign nationalities. Yes, over here, we’d call this “racism”. No ACLU there, folks. Shariah is alive and well, and is enforced on Indians and others from that side of the world.
One hopes that various comedians -- Jay Leno comes to mind -- use this material again and again, to give vast numbers of Infidels, who know nothing of Islam -- a hint of what it is like, in the U. A. E., and Pakistan, and now in southern Iraq, and in Sudan, Saudi Arabia, and Iran, and everywhere that Islam is taken completely seriously and the attitudes that rise naturally from its tenets can be obverved.
A year in jail for clipping and kissing? The wit above had it right: he should have married and had sexual intercourse with her when she was nine. That's the way to go about things. It was good enough for Muhammad. It should be good enough for everyone, in time and space.
F.A.O Granny Weatherwax & all other British readers:
Tonight (Sunday 12th June) BBC2 7pm
A programme called Dont Panic I'm Islamic
The BBC's latest finger wagging dawah on prime time television to lecture us all on why we are so evil and why we need to 'understand' Islam etc etc etc
Dont miss it.
Re: ".. charged the man with “indecent assault by consent,”
Indecent assault by consent - now there's an oxymoron.
Granny:
The book you are referring to is "Inside the Kingdom" by Carmen Bin Ladin. It's a quick read, high personal but very instructive. It's certainly worth checking the library for a copy.
"BBC's latest finger wagging dawah"
--- from a posting above
How convenient the world now is. How many labor-saving devices: the washing machine, and the dryer, abolishing those washboard blues. And cell phones, and the Internet, and high-speed rail service, and planes whizzing hither -- and yon.
So why should we be surprised, as part of the same phenomenon, that we no longer fiddle with a short-wave dial to attempt to pick up the voice of an enemy propagandist in Berlin or Tokyo -- William Joyce (Lord Haw-Haw, or Axis Sally (Mildred Gillars) or Tokyo Rose (not one person, but identified with Iva Toguri), we don't need a short-wave radio. All we have to do, all over the very wide English-speaking world, is tune into Bush House, and the BBC.
The worst offender, under the sinister John Simpson, is the BBC World Service, with its PLO propagandist Orla Guerin, and someone with a distinct Pakistani accent who was brightly defending, the other day (at 4:50 a.m. EST), the way in which the BBC had promoted the "desecrating-the-Qur'an" story which whipped up mad Muslims all over the world. A certain Linda Duffin (sp?) had taken as a real "American" spokesmen, the head of CAIR, the notorious Nihal Awad, whose indignant voice -- speaking as an "American Muslim" -- denounced this horror, while no one thought to ask about the complete and systematic destruction two years ago by local Arabs ("Palestinians") of the venerable Joseph's Tomb, or about the churches destroyed and vandalized all over the Middle East and North Africa and Byzantium (see the spaces where crosses have been ripped from the walls, and paintings destroyed, in the Hagia Sophia, vandalized by Muslims, claimed for Islam, and turned into mosques like tens of thousands of other churches all over the lands conquered by Islam, or the list, compiled by Sita Ram Goel, of the tens of thousands of Hindu temples (and millions of artifacts) destroyed by the Muslim invaders. But in Nihal Awad's world -- and he was presented not as someone who works for an oranization many of whose leaders have been trided, convicted, and sentenced for their links to terrorism (and there are remarks by Awad himself that, if BBC audiences had been made aware of, just might have colored their perception of this propagandist).
The lady with the Pakistani accent, a Lillian Lando or somethingorother, who was described as the head of "News Programming" at the BBC World Service -- ah, then that also helps explain it -- was having none of the criticism of the respectful, nearly fawning interview with Awad that the BBC World Service ran.
The BBC World Service, and much of BBC television, is entirely in the hands, where it counts, of Muslims and Muslim sympathizers and silly non-Muslim apologists for Islam, and of course, the usual contingent of antisemites who, naturally and automatically, given the Jihad against Israel that must be consistently and carefully misrepresented to the Western public, all of whom make it possible for the English, and Australian, and American, and Canadian, and other listener, who may be confusing this BBC with one that existed a few decades ago (they have nothing in common -- Bush HOuse has been seized, because as happens in any military coup or takeover, you seize the instruments of information first, in order to give your version of events. It was not seized with guns, and tanks surrounding the place, but with the slow, step-by-step infiltraiton of personnel, and the putting in place of policies designed, at every level, and in every way, to make us unaware of the contents of Islam, the theory and practice and attitudes and atmospherics of Islam, and the real reasons for the conflicts that involve Muslims and non-Muslims all over the globe -- including, of course, that Jhad against Israel that gets such exaggerated attention, and is the focus of such sinister "concern."
Lord Haw-Haw and Axis Sally and Tokyo Rose are just a dial away on any set. And should you not be in England, not to worry -- many NPR stations are proud to present the BBC, for the BBC accords perfectly with the world-view of the most powerful people (at least until last week) at NPR. And they know exactly what they are doing.
The BBC World Service, and much of BBC television, is entirely in the hands, where it counts, of Muslims and Muslim sympathizers and silly non-Muslim apologists for Islam
Exactly this point was made by Rod Liddle, a former BBC employee, ex-producer of Radio 4's Today programme and currently blessing us with his columns and journalism in The Sunday Times and other newspapers. He still presents TV shows. Unfortunately I cannot find the link for this particular article, but he says that the BBC is terrified of upsetting Muslims, and effectively propgandises for Islam. Every three months or so, on prime time BBC television, we are presented with a finger-wagging lecture on why our society is so beastly, and Islam and Muslims are without sin, and receive screeds and blasts of invective about how Islam is misunderstood, but Bush is as bad as Bin Laden, and blah blah blah. Three months ago it was an evening of programmes devoted to 'exploring' Britain's Pakistani community (inconveniently broadcast in the same week that Richard Reid's associate, the Shoe Bomber who chickened out, a twenty something British-Pakistani, born and raised in Zionist-Occupied Gloucester)
Meanwhile, we are promised that tonights programme features Lord Ahmed, who recently invited a most vicious Holocaust denier and anti-Semite to his offices in the House of Lords, but apparently loves fish and chips, so that is alright.
The BBC is an active participant in producing dawah and propaganda for Islam, scheduling Islamic screeds at prime time and complicit in the wicked accusation that blames our society for Muslim failure, bigotry, intolerance and violence. Rather than being angered that Bin Laden and other British Pakistanis like the boys who went to Israel to blow themselves up are responsible for the 'bad image' of Islam, they blame instead the innocent....British society, liberal, tolerant, plural and democratic. This makes it plain where their sympathies lie, and makes it rather comical then, in the way that a fool is oblivious to his own foolishness, when they claim it is others that tarnish their image in conspiracy to 'defame' Islam.
The lady with the Pakistani accent, a Lillian Lando or somethingorother, who was described as the head of "News Programming" at the BBC World Service -- ah, then that also helps explain it -- was having none of the criticism of the respectful, nearly fawning interview with Awad that the BBC World Service ran.
Could be an Indian lady, but the difference to your point is minimal, because to work for the BBC you must be of one with the Islamic weltanschaung and programme, dont ask awkward question, AmeriKKKa is the source of all evil etc etc etc
Zico:
I just can't tolerate the BBC's pro-islam bias anymore. Just watching anything islamic or its coverage of Israel, is enough to ruin my day. I dont see any reason why I should pay to have my day ruined.
No more license money from me anymore.
I intend to watch the programme. I just did a search of the DBC website looking for "head of programming" or "world service programming" then "Lilian Lando" The second item on the list was "muslim News, The two items just below that were about BBC Arabic. World service produced One Day in Iraq. The site is not kept as up to date as it should be, The World Service information pack still features the late John Peel. Unless they are repeating his recorded programmes, which would be well worth listening to.
Don’t Panic – I’m Islamic. BBC 2 Sunday 12 June @7pm. So what did we see?
Lots of admiration for Osama Bin Laden. He’s a sensitive spiritual man, don’t you know. Firm belief that 9/11 was a US plot.
Lots of bewailing of their victimhood. Fluffy shots of multi racial pilgrimage to Mecca. The young man who changed his name to Daniel Jacob who said 3 times (so it must be true) that 99% of Moslems are “all right”.
The hijabette (who stood as a candidate for Respect, George Galloways party) who wondered after 9/11 “If things got bad in Britain where would we go? And would we take the children…????!!!!!” She would leave her children behind in a country she considered too dangerous for herself.
A man that calmly takes home a video called something like Greatest Massacres of Bosnia and puts it on in front of his family. And later serves 5 years imprisonment for terrorist activity in Yemen.
The lies about Israel. Tu-toque about the Irish and the Israelis. Twisted, sarcastic toned voices reading out newspaper reports about terrorist activity. Try to make out that the British press is biased. Cut to Al Jazeera.
Iqbal Sacranie, sorry, the knighted in this weeks honours list, Sir Iqbal Sacranie reading out his e-mails, which politely suggested that Moslems might find the Middle East a more preferable home.
Then on to the role of women. And the usual arguments about how the hijab and veil are liberating and respectful. Nothing new there. Some film contrasting our liberated and respected Muslimas with some drunken ladettes on the streets of Slough. And the bearded traditionally dressed man, literally drooling as he described a ra-ra skirt, (are they fashionable again?) which he then declared to be disgusting. As my husband said, he seems to have noticed his disgust in some detail.
It ended with predictions that if the younger generation felt more oppressed then they would react. Is that a threat or a promise? Because I was left with the feeling that they had been given a chance to show some positive things, to convince us dhimmis that all is well. But instead they had been allowed to dig a hole, and just had not realised when in a hole STOP DIGGING.
I found it confirmed my opinion, in a way I was not expecting.
DP111:
Like you I am thoroughly sickened by the propaganda British TV persistently rams down our throats and have lost hope of seeing anything resembling unbiased reporting, hence my TV hasn't been switched on for well over 2 months, I now prefer to listen to talk radio from CRN via the internet, the likes of Laurie Roth, Michael Savage, Dennis Prager, George Putnam, Mike Gallagher etc.
http://www.cableradionetwork.com/?nid=3&date=6/12/2005&pid=5
It's nice to know there are some voices of reason, the ones who call a spade a spade, who are getting the message out to the USA. It's a pity we don't have similar in the UK.
We need the pirate radio stations that we had back in the 60s. What say you Granny W ?
What say you Granny W
Caroline, Caroline, ai, ai, ine...
Apart from their rebelliousness in actually playing the pop music that we wanted to hear (and not the bland concert music the Light programme gave us) and the whole business of the official monopoly I don't remember the pirate stations as being particularly political. But I think you are right about breaking the official monopoly on opinion. I tend to listen to a commercial music station with local news and events and read my news and comment. The most recent pirates round here (and now defunct) were 3 hours a night from a van which made the signal very unreliable apparently. Could cable be a better method?
I can't make up my mind whether the Don't Panic programme told the truth by plain arrogance that they did not think the attitudes shown were wrong or offensive. Or whether some subversive person decided that given enough rope, the Moslem participants would, and did hang themselves. No sensible person would have come away from that programme thinking, heavens, our British Moslems are so hard done by. The only person hard done by was the Sikh who got beaten up by mistake.
Then, just to redeem the BBC a fraction I have just finished watching David Dimbleby and A Picture of Britain. British art, poetry and the most exquisite photography of East Anglia that I have ever seen. The reason for it all.
What say you Granny W
Caroline, Caroline, ai, ai, ine...
Apart from their rebelliousness in actually playing the pop music that we wanted to hear (and not the bland concert music the Light programme gave us) and the whole business of the official monopoly I don't remember the pirate stations as being particularly political
lol... sorry I didn't make myself clear enough. I meant we need the rebelliousness of the pirates, but on the political lines of the cable talk radio shows of the U.S.
TOO MANY British rely on the lieing biased MSM and nowhere near enough visit the internet sites like JW/DW.. we need to notch up the volume on the alarm clock to waken our dozing people..
Do you think it will take an attempt to part Tony Blair's head from his shoulders by some crazed muslim before they will finally stop spouting "Islam is a wonderful and peaceful religion" (puke) and finally get their act together ?
I think that any attacks made on the public won't make a scrap of difference to Blair and Co's appeasement, but if HE and Dhimmi Brown were to experience jihad up REALLY CLOSE and PERSONAL they might just have a change of heart.
"Do you think it will take an attempt to part Tony Blair's head from his shoulders by some crazed muslim before they will finally stop spouting "Islam is a wonderful and peaceful religion" (puke) and finally get their act together ?"
Yes. And I dearly hope it is directed at Tony Blair, or some other politician and not the general public. Because we are the general public and I don't think we really matter to them. Thats another thing about this programme, not a single mention of any action by their own community to kerb people they were themselves describing as nutty extremists.
How easy would it be to set up a cable radio station? I know nothing about cable. I assume you need a licence etc?
I'm about to log out, I'm not being rude if I don't respond to any more from you until the morning. Good night.
And goodnight, Granny Weatherwax -- or Mrs. Calabash -- wherever you are.
And Jimmy Durante offers just one more example, of those who could never have been produced by a Muslim society. We need to keep the world safe for the possibility of future Jimmy Durantes.
You are exactly right Granny we don't mean a thing to them WE are totally EXPENDABLE!!
Come back Guy Fawkes all is forgiven !!!
WHOOOPS! Am I still allowed to say things like that ?
Goodnight, sleep sound GW.
Granny Weatherwax and True Brit:
When I was stationed in Britain, I asked several kids on Guy Fawkes Day why Guy Fawkes Day WAS celebrated....was it because he attempted to blow up Parliment, or was because he failed to blow up Parliment. All I got was blank looks...so what's the answer?
johnb I never thanked you last night for your giving me the full name of Carmen bin Ladin's book.
SCV Guy Fawkes was celebrated for both reasons in my opinion and another. Ostensibly his effigy was first burned because he was a Catholic, and they were very unpopular at the time. ( Note for trolls - please note how christianity has moved on in that old enmities are now in ecumenical co-operation.) Mainly, in my opinion it was an excuse, acceptable to the authorities, for a bonfire and party. 5 Nov is only a few days after Hallowen, which was originally the old pagan festival of Samhain, celebrated with bonfires. Bonfire night gave legitimacy to an ancient custom that never died out.
SCV:
Like Granny says it means different things to different people.
http://www.bonfirenight.net/bonfire.php
"The tradition of Guy Fawkes-related bonfires actually began the very same year as the failed coup. The Plot was foiled in the night between the 4th and 5th of November 1605. Already on the 5th, agitated Londoners who knew little more than that their King had been saved, joyfully lit bonfires in thanksgiving. As years progressed, however, the ritual became more elaborate.
Soon, people began placing effigies onto bonfires, and fireworks were added to the celebrations. Effigies of Guy Fawkes, and sometimes those of the Pope, graced the pyres. Still today, some communities throw dummies of both Guy Fawkes and the Pope on the bonfire (and even those of a contemporary politician or two), although the gesture is seen by most as a quirky tradition, rather than an expression of hostility towards the Pope."
SCV:
Like Granny says it means different things to different people.
http://www.bonfirenight.net/bonfire.php
"The tradition of Guy Fawkes-related bonfires actually began the very same year as the failed coup. The Plot was foiled in the night between the 4th and 5th of November 1605. Already on the 5th, agitated Londoners who knew little more than that their King had been saved, joyfully lit bonfires in thanksgiving. As years progressed, however, the ritual became more elaborate.
Soon, people began placing effigies onto bonfires, and fireworks were added to the celebrations. Effigies of Guy Fawkes, and sometimes those of the Pope, graced the pyres. Still today, some communities throw dummies of both Guy Fawkes and the Pope on the bonfire (and even those of a contemporary politician or two), although the gesture is seen by most as a quirky tradition, rather than an expression of hostility towards the Pope."
Thats a good link. I did very nicely one particular year out of Penny for the Guy. Unfortunately my Mother would never let us burn the Guy but insisted on putting the clothes back in the bag for the rag man.