Sharia alert from the UK -- not as the law of the land, but as a matter of individual observance. From EDP24, with thanks to Anthony:
A Muslim woman alleged to have been recruited to help abduct five children from Norfolk and take them to Libya told a court yesterday that she had only gone on the trip with her husband because she had to "obey him".Wearing a veil completely covering her face, Wedad Ahmed, 38, said through the help of an interpreter that her husband Mustafa Abushima, 45, had not discussed with her the trip to Morocco, in which it is alleged they posed as parents of the five abducted children.
She told the jury at Norwich Crown Court: "When my husband gives an order I have to obey him. I cannot do anything but."
This story has a familiar ring to it...the Muslim father of children he had with a Western woman kidnaps the kids and takes them back home, typically never to be seen again by their mother.
I feel bad for the mother of the children. She had already probably made many concessions to him, the children had Arabic names, and had probably received many beatings despite her concessions. As for the kidnapper, Wedad, age 38, I have no pity. The article mentions that she herself had 11 children. She gladly helped tear those children away from their mother, because she is also a fanatical Musim who believed that the children would be better off without their kufir-English mother. Still, she played the victim-Muslim well, she had a new baby, needed a rest (who can afford to vacation with 11 young children at home?)couldn't see well with her full burqa,and the best one, she was just following orders. I hope that she sees lots of jail time.
From the article:
Asked how she would feel if she had known they were being taken without the permission of their mother she replied: "As a mother with 11 children, I think a child should be with their mother.
"Their mother is like water to her children. They cannot live without her. Even in Islam we say that children should be with their mother and they should be good to her."
Wow! The humanity of Islam!
Even Islam has to be dragged into the court proceedings. Even sitting in the criminal court, a little bit of Islamic propagandising has to take place, and expected to be revered and sat in awe of...because Islam says that children should be with their mothers...wow...what morality and humanity, so profound.
She needs Islam to teach her that?
This is a dunce's religion.
Although I have my suspicions that in truth Islam preaches that if the Mother is infidel she has no rights over the children at all, so this dunce is actually just indulging in taqiyaah and typical lies from the Islamic witness stand.
Although I have my suspicions that in truth Islam preaches that if the Mother is infidel she has no rights over the children at all..."
--- from a posting above
Your suspicions are correct.
Infidel or not, in Islam a mother has no rights over her children in case of divorce (they belong to their father from a certain, quite young age); so as an Islamic husband can divorce his wives anytime at will, he also has a right to take away his children from their mothers whenever he likes. "Even in Islam we say that children should be with their mother" - as long as it's ok with the father, that is.
This creature needs to read "Not Without My Child" and "For the Love of A Child" by Betty Mahmoody.
Clues for the congenitally clueless.
To quote Jack Kerouac's "Mexico City Blues" -71st Chorus:
"Fanatical spews
Fanatical mews.
It is magic
that men have anything
to do with birth
Wedad shouldn't be sent to prison, she should be deported, along with her 11 children. Whatever happened to feminism?
Well you can't really blame her. She's been told since childhood that a good Muslim sow is supposed to obey her master or go to hell. Plus if she hadn't done his will he'd just beat the crap out of her (or maybe kill her and say she blashphemed the proph-vert or made eyes at another man or whatever) and then take the kids anyway.
If your two choices are live in misery or die in misery, what would you choose?
ELEVEN children? Wow. Life as a brood sow. Imagine that.
You reap what you sow. And in this case it looks like the UK sowed sows, hey kj?
Wedad Ahmed is quoted as saying, "Wearing the veil all the time restricts me."
But we've always been told that the veil frees a woman from the scrutiny of the world, especially the stares of lecherous males, frees her mind to concentrate on Allah, and frees her from the fashion competition of her woe-begotten Western sisters.
And now we have a Muslima telling us that the veil is restrictive.
As though eleven children weren't restrictive enough!
"Wearing a veil completely covering her face, Wedad Ahmed, 38"
Why do we allow that? Why does any western country allow that? We have to put an end to this assault of everything we hold dear. The looney left has to come out of the cave and face the music:
Get rid of this spook! Forbid this 'mummenschanz!'
On the one hand the Muzzies wince and weasel and lie about this veil-thing, then on the other hand "Wedad Ahmed is quoted as saying, "Wearing the veil all the time restricts me."
KJ says "Life as a brood sow"- how true!
As for the 'humanity of Islam' we have seen that with the Taliban and although nothing much comes out of SA we do know what's happening there.
I want them deported. Stripped of citizenship, interned and deported. Those who are hellbent on destroying us must not be allowed to live among us. Especially when they become kidnappers or commit other crimes.
I am not concerned about Mohammedan 'humanity'.
We know what humanity is. It is not Islamic!
"Wearing a veil completely covering her face, Wedad Ahmed, 38"
Why do we allow that? Why does any western country allow that? We have to put an end to this assault of everything we hold dear. The looney left has to come out of the cave and face the music:
Get rid of this spook! Forbid this 'mummenschanz!'
On the one hand the Muzzies wince and weasel and lie about this veil-thing, then on the other hand "Wedad Ahmed is quoted as saying, "Wearing the veil all the time restricts me."
KJ says "Life as a brood sow"- how true!
As for the 'humanity of Islam' we have seen that with the Taliban and although nothing much comes out of SA we do know what's happening there.
I want them deported. Stripped of citizenship, interned and deported. Those who are hellbent on destroying us must not be allowed to live among us. Especially when they become kidnappers or commit other crimes.
I am not concerned about Mohammedan 'humanity'.
We know what humanity is. It is not Islamic!
Multiculturalism and cultural equivalism, one culture is as good as another, is at play here. Although it is not the law of the land in Britain, it is where they are from and immigrants and not required nor even encouraged to assimilate or follow the laws Western lands into which they migrate.
On the other hand, Westerners that chose or haplessly wander into Muslim lands are forced by harsh punishment or pain of death to assimilate and definitely follow the laws of those lands.
Muslim immigrants very arrogantly indeed enter into Western lands with the mindset of not recognizing and obeying any law that is not in accordance with Islam or those that are at variace with Muslim culture. The new country's laws and culture be damned!
The woman kidnapping children to Lybia was obeying her husband and thumbing her nose at British law and the people of Britain in general for she sees them as not worthy as they kufir and British laws are irrelevant to Muslims.
That's the second good story in as many weeks from the Eastern Daily Press, the only paper I will spend my money on these days, but only when I am in Norfolk. Can you imagine the Guardian reporting "Wearing the veil all the time restricts me." and "When my husband gives an order I have to obey him. I cannot do anything but." and so spoiling the sunshine of the Islamic rose garden?
This trial does not seem to be reported elsewhere. Why doesn't that surprise me? I do hope that if convicted she gets a custodial sentence. HMP Holloway will be an education for her.
I'm sure the girls were carted off and mutilated via female circumcision. I hope this hasn't happened.
f.g.
I am still working on my album 'Winds of Jihad by Sheik Yer'mami'
http://www.terrorists-suck.org/shoebomber
http://www.terrorists-suck.org/fight/winds_of_jihad.html
One of my songs is called 'Muslim woman"-
I was at a loss as to what I should write, since I could never figure out what's actually in it for Muslim women. And since they are just as fanatical as the men I really wonder what I could write about.
So I asked Ali Sina from FFI: Thank you very much for the answer Ali, it is truly enlightening! I hope you don't mind me posting the answer here.
"Women get nothing. But it is not for the greed of paradise that Muslims are so zealot. It is for the fear of hell. Fear is much more powerful than anything you can think of. This is the thing that has paralyzed the minds of the Muslims, both men and women. Mental paralysis is what it is called. Fear of hell does not allow them think. They dismiss the thought as soon as they start doubting. That psychopath Muhammad has really taken these poor people as hostage. This is the power of lie.
Yes send that song and if you can write one mocking them for their irrational fear of hell and for lellting themselves to be folled by a psychopath."
Thanks again Ali!
So all you JW/DW watchers out there, if you can help me with some good lines about the fear of hell that I can fit it into my song I really appreciate it!
I remember reading in RE at school (a very brief foray into comparative religion) about a woman mystic who ran through the streets of her town with a flaming torch in one hand and a bucket of water in the other. She wanted to put out the fires of hell and light one in heaven so people would love God for his own sake and not from fear of hell or desire for heaven. I thought that was pretty profound but retained my general low opinion of Islam as I saw it in practice around me. Years later I mentioned this story to a Pakistani Muslim. "Never heard of her", he said. "Probably a Sufi" he concluded, with some contempt in his voice. I have since looked up that she was Rabia al-'Adawiyya (c.717-801)a Sufi saint from Iraq.
"Even in Islam we say that a child should be with its mother." Under Islamic law, if there is a divorce, the children automatically go to the father's family. That is how much they care about motherly love. And, of course, it's very easy for a Muslim man to divorce his wife.
It seems they only become really perverse about wearing the veil when they come to Western countries. In their own countries they are always whining about taking it off as it is so restrictive. It's obviously an in your face thing to remind us dhimmis that we are vastly inferior to them and they have special rights.
Terminator, why not dispense with the lyrics and just mix a lot of thudding sounds into the song, to signify the divinely-ordained beating of wives?
Terminator-
Granny Weatherwax is on the right trail for the lyrics with that image of a Sufi gal running around with "A Torch and a Bucket" (good title, eh?) (And many good rhymes for "bucket"...)
Since I've downloaded and greatly enjoyed your songs, I know your metier, so I'll see if I can use Granny's W. nice inspiration and the Sina suggestions to sow some stirring song stuff. (A "Gehenna-colored beard" in their somewhere, maybe?... as a 'Mohammad-in-hell' image I've wanted to utilize.)
I'll post any lyrics that I can hammer together after one of your further posts. (Now, I'll get to thinking...)
Everybody needs to hear Terminator's "SHOEBOMBER" song! It could be this Summer's explosive dance hit, -East of Fez, that is.
"Even in Islam we say that children should be with their mother and they should be good to her."
EVEN in Islam? Is this some kind of subconscious admission that Islam is not a tolerant religion of peace?
I thought that Islamic law gave the custody to the mother only until the child is seven years old, in the case of male children, anyhow.
How does this law apply to female children? Or are they regarded as being so worthless that their mothers are welcome to them?