Still more evidence of where Pakistan's loyalties actually lie. "I love jehad: Nawaz to Osama," from ANI, with thanks to Andrew Bostom:
LAHORE: Former Pakistan premier Nawaz Sharif met al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden at least three times prior to the 1988 general polls in Pakistan and told the latter that he loved jihad.Nawaz, the then chief minister of Punjab, said this in response to Osama’s appeal to him to devote himself to "jihad in Kashmir".
Osama had promised to give Nawaz a grant of Rs 500 million to stop Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan Peoples’ Party (PPP) from storming to power in the ensuing polls. "Nawaz Sharif was looking for the Rs 500 million grant from Osama," the Daily Times quoted ex-ISI official Khalid Khawaja as saying in an interview with the Asia Times Online.
Khalid, who had reportedly arranged the meeting of the duo reportedly said that after the elections were announced, the mujahideens in Pakistan felt that they should play a role in blocking the PPP from winning the elections.
"I joined my former DG Hamid Gul and played a role in forming the then Islamic Democratic Alliance consisting of the Pakistan Muslim League and the Jamaat-e-Islami," he said adding that Osama provided him with funds which he handed over to Sharif to dislodge Benazir.
"Nawaz insisted that I arrange a direct meeting with the Osama, which I did in Saudi Arabia. Nawaz met thrice with Osama. At one of these meetings Nawaz told Osama that he loved jihad, but the latter insisted that he should be more committed for the cause of jihad," the paper quoted Khalid as saying.
Singh and all others of Indian decent infact everyone who is new to JW,
welcome.
I have been working on some ideas to change the focus of the islamic problem in the UK and the world away from a
religious issue into one that is basically a "human rights" and plain common "human decency" issue.
We need money for this cause. I have been busy contacting as many Indian & Jewish businessmen and women for assistance.
If you know any indian business people who are willing to help then contact them.
I am not going to reveal details on the forum but will contact Robert Spencer later.
In the mean time if you know of any Indian shop owners try and persuade them to buy goods from Israel.
Israel as I am sure everyone on this forum knows is the 2nd largest supplier of military kit to India and may soon be the number 1
supplier.
The problems they are facing with the arab/moslems are the same as we indians have in the past and present in kashmir.
Here is a link for trade with Israel, every bottle of wine, every carton of kosher fruit juice, every container of dates infact anything
as long as it is "made in Israel" will help the cause. If Israel is defeated, then it is over, islam will be on a roll.
Israel export directory
http://www.jewishpinellas.org/content_display.html?ArticleID=120518
It is the Sikh/Hindu/Jewish/Buddhist students who suffer at Uni while the lecturers pander to the islamic mob.
Also print this story, forward the link to every one you know:
http://www.themuslimweekly.com/newspaper/viewfullstory.aspx?NewsID=NW00002041
If you know any Indians who are labour supporters ask them about it. Ask your loval Sikh/Hindu temple for permission to post it on their notice board.
Also does anybody know how much visits to this site increased after the bill board went up in LA ?
Regards to All
AI
Sounds like a good idea, apostate_islam. From what I know, support and understanding for Israel amongst ordinary Indians runs high indeed.
As for Nawaz Sharif professing deeeep love for jihad, no surprises there. The fact that there exists a huge market in pakistan for jihadi rhetoric is well known and even militaryu dictators - who don't really have to face messy elections - kowtow to this basic principle.
Here in the US, politicians post election govern from the center, to appeal to the max no. of voters. In pukeistan, they govern from the jihadi right, again to appeal to max no.s of ordinary Pakistanis.
"Still more evidence of where Pakistan's loyalties actually lie."
I disagree. The opinions of the former PM of Pakistan are meaningless, and let us remember that he was ousted by Musharaf. Yes, Sharif was a dangerous man who almost started a nuclear war in the Indian sub-continent, and yes he supported terrorism in Kashmir (as if this wasn't known already), but as far as I know he is still in prison and thus, his opinions or past comments are completely meaningless.
Off the point a bit ;--- check out this site that is a bit outragious called the Islamic comic book replete with songs and all.
http://www.islamcomicbook.com
LOL I read that comic book it's hilarious.
Alex u r clearly misinformed.
Yes, Sharif was a dangerous man who almost started a nuclear war in the Indian sub-continent, and yes he supported terrorism in Kashmir (as if this wasn't known already), but as far as I know he is still in prison and thus
Wat make u think Mush is a good guy. Man he is the brain behind jihadi network . He was a ISI guy. The war u r talking about was actually planned by Mush. Nawaz Sharif is NOT IN PRISON. HE IS IN "EXILE" IN KSA
Is Mush serious about war on terror? Man r u stupid... he cant risk losing public support by bringing down hammer on jihadis. The ruiling party in Pakistan NWPF is MMA which is Pakistan's edition of Taliban. What's more, they're allied wit Mush. Mush is the biggest toad out there....
Musharraf is far more dangerous than either Bhutto or Sharif. Musharraf runs the military. Sharif and Bhutto had to 'manage' the military to stay in power
which wasnt for too long.
Musharraf framed and then pardoned the AQ Khan for nuclear proliferation to Iran and Libya.
Nothing happens without the military in Pakistan.
Military was involved.
Musharraf scuttled the Clinton plan to kill Bin Laden.
Most terrorists and taliban are holed up in Pakistan. The military turns over anyone who falls out of favor but most terrorists are protected. In fact, few have been cought directly by CIA without
Musharraf's knowledge. I remember a case when Musharraf was in Russia and terrorist was captured. He denied that there were any terrorist
in Pakistan at that time or that anyone was arrested. A week later, he was claiming cedit.
Musharraf is not a willing partner but CIA may made certain inroads in Pakistani establishment
through bribes.
Musharraf supports hudood laws. Mukhtaran Mai
case is a recent example.
Musharraf was the architect of the kargil war.
All of this is 'open secret'. None of it matters
to America which is wedded to the idea that
Pakistan or Musharraf is not a problem so long
as India exists. It will turn out to be costliest
foreign policy mistake (bigger than US support
for taliban in 80's to defeat the soviets. )
But nobody can help informed people who are willingly gullible.
Time will tell.
"I love jihad"--great slogan. I can just see it on multitudes of t-shirts and car bumpers. (Alternative bumper sticker suggestion: Honk if you love jihad.")
"Alex u r clearly misinformed."
Hmmm, ok.
"Wat make u think Mush is a good guy."
What makes YOU think that I think that Musharaf is a good guy?
"Nawaz Sharif is NOT IN PRISON. HE IS IN "EXILE" IN KSA"
Point taken, but the bottom line is the same: the man is presently as powerful as Humpty Dumpty.
"Is Mush serious about war on terror?"
No, I think that he is between the sword (Jihadists in his own country) and the wall (America), and he is trying to stay alive.
"Man r u stupid..."
You, on the other hand, are brilliant and an example on how to address others. Have a pleasant afternoon.
Alex wrote :-
"No, I think that he is between the sword (Jihadists in his own country) and the wall (America), and he is trying to stay alive."
That is the impression he wants to give. His
sympathy is with the jihadists. His information
minister is a former jihadist. He is against a few disgruntled jihadists who want to dethrone him.
Most of the Lashkar e tayabba is with him.
How difficult do you think is catching Bin Laden
if he is serious ?
America is not the wall either. Its there just for the money or jeziya.
Apostate:
I don't know what kind of cause you are seeking support for, but I do have a friend who is well-connected to the fairly affluent and influential ex-pat Israeli business people in Toronto, Canada. India has given safe haven to various Jewish communities for over two milenia. If there's something I can do in some small way to acknowledge that, I'd be happy to.
waterdragon,
thankyou very much.
Can you contact me thru RS. I can't say to much about my "Jewish/Indian conspiracy" but I do look forward to being prosecuted for "incitement to religious hatred"
Regards
AI
Apostate:
I have been off the net for a few days. I will ask RS to oblige.
WD52