He was "a good Muslim." And the overwhelming majority of decent, law-abiding Muslims in Britain that we keep hearing so much about -- what did they do to stop him? What did they do to combat his admiration of Osama and desire to murder others while killing himself? If they did nothing, as appears to be the case, why not? "Cousin listened to boasts about suicide mission," from the Times Online, with thanks to King Jan Sobieski of Poland:
ON HIS last visit to relatives in Pakistan this year, one of the London bombers, Shehzad Tanweer, boasted of wanting to die in a revenge attack over the way Muslims are treated.While his family in Leeds had no idea about his suicide mission, Tanweer confessed to his cousin his ambition to become a “holy warrior”. At his father’s home village 30 miles from Faisalabad, Mohammad Saleem described yesterday how Tanweer, 22, hero-worshipped Osama bin Laden.
Mr Saleem supported his cousin’s bombing at Aldgate station which killed seven people, saying: “Whatever he has done, if he has done it, then he has done right.” He recalled how Tanweer argued with family and friends about the need for violent retaliation over US abuse of Muslim prisoners in Guantanamo Bay.
Tanweer was no stranger to the village of Chak No 477, where his grandfather and several cousins live. During his last trip, the college dropout was visited by another of the bombers, Mohammad Sidique Khan. They are said to have met a known al-Qaeda activist who has since been jailed for bombing a church. “Whenever he would listen about sufferings of Muslims he would become very emotional and sentimental,” Mr Saleem said. “He was a good Muslim . . . he also wished to take part in jihad and lay down his life.
“He knew that excesses are being done to Muslims. Incidents like desecration of the Koran have always been in his mind.”
His uncle, Tahir Pervaiz, told the Pakistani daily Dawn: “Osama bin Laden was Shehzad’s ideal and he used to discuss the man with his cousins and friends in the village.”
Tiny minority of extremists update:
After Tanweer’s death, more than 2,000 villagers turned out to pray for him.
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/07/man-linked-to-london-bombings.html
Man linked to London bombings threatens Sweden
While denying involvement in the London bombings, the man said that the suicide bombers who attacked three underground trains and a bus were “martyrs,” adding that he hoped also to become a martyr one day. “They are not terrorists, as they are doing what Islam requires,” he said.
well if this was a good Muslim...........you dont want to know about the bad ones
Fjordman, just as we all expected. No one is surprised. Who is in control of the government in Sweden, the Muslims or the Non Muslims? We will have to wait and see. If Sweden allows England to extradite him, the Muslims now have their 'grievance', their 'injustice', and therefore, Sweden, as part of the Dar al-Harb, must be attacked for the horrible wrongs they have committed against the Muslims. The logic is flawless (sarcasm turned up, way up).
It is not enough for the Muslims in Sweden to breed the Swedes out of existence, stress the Infidel coffers with endless demands for govt dole as they lay around with no interest in being a productive contribution to an infidel society or harass infidels that dare stray into their settlements in the Infidel lands. No, now the Muslims believe they must start killing the infidels because Sweden may agree to extradite one of the individuals expected in the bombing.
From the article:
After Tanweer’s death, more than 2,000 villagers turned out to pray for him.
Any prayers for those he murdered?
And what torture did his Guantanamo 'bros' suffer that pushed him over the edge?
Was it the honey-glazed chicken meals that the prisoners have been forced to endure that pushed him over the edge? Perhaps the wrong color paint was used on the arrows pointing to Mecca? Could it have been that a vile, filthy guard touched a Quran with an ungloved hand?
Why, any such slight could inflame the sensibilities of such a 'good Muslim', don't you know.
These people are barking mad.
PRCS:
What grieves them? See this from Chris Hitchens, former comrade in arms to Tariq Ali at the New Stateman, and co-author with Edward Said of a book detailing the injustices suffered by Palestinians had to say the day after the bombings (not what you might think -- he has no sympathies for them, as he has concluded that they have no interest in political solutions, which do exist):
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15713152&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=07-07--war-on-britain--we-cannot-surrender--name_page.html
Even Saudi Arabia's new ambassador to the US and former ambassador to Britain, Prince Turki, was cited by MEMRI as having said resolving the Israeli/Palestinian issue would not suffice for the Al Qaeda types. That's not what they are about.
stone cold dead
5 bullets in head
Now thats a good muslim
Any truth in the rumour that Scotland Yard
Purchased 10lb,s of prime pork lard
7/16/05 Somewhere Indonesia.
Luckily no-one hurt
My friends resturant destroyed by muslim staff who where angry because my friend had sacked one employee for stealing money from another employee who happened to be christian
After coming home from helping to try and put the fire out,this is the news that was on web news
7/16/05 Iraq Musayyib
71 killed 160 wouned
A religious extremist with explosives wrapped around his chest, detonates himself in a crowded city street, killing over seventy other people. Nearly two-hundred others are injured in the horrific attack.
7/16/05 Iraq Basra
3 killed 2 wouned
Muslim terrorists kill three British soldiers with a roadside bomb.
7/16/05 India Baramulla
2 killed 0 wouned
The Mujahideen shoot a man to death outside his home, and also stage a separate attack that kills a 6-year-old girl.
7/16/05 Thailand Narathiwat
2 killed 0 wouned Muslim separatists attack a school, killing two security guards.
AND IT ALL STARTED 622: Hijra -- migration to Medina. First year of Islamic calendar of bloodshed
624: Battle of Badr. Expulsion of the Bani Qainuqa Jews from Medina.
625: Battle of Uhud. Expulsion of Banu Nadir Jews from Medina.
626: Expedition of Banu Mustaliq.
627: Battle of the Trench. Killing and enslavement of Banu Quraiza Jews.
628: Treaty of Hudaybiyya. Battle of Khyber. Muhammad sends letters to various heads of states.
629: Muhammad pilgrimage to Mecca. Expedition to Mu'ta.
630: Conquest of Mecca. Battle of Hunayn. Battle of Auras. Siege of al-Ta'if.
631: Battle of Tabouk, Ghassanids
632: Farewell pilgrimage at Mecca.
632: Death of Muhammad. Abu Bakr assumes power as Caliph. Battles of Zu Qissa.Battles of Zu Abraq. Battle of Buzakha. Battle of Zafar. Battle of Naqra. Campaigns against Bani Tamim and Mosailima.
633: Campaigns in Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, and Hadramaut. Raids in Iraq.Battle of Kazima, Battle of Mazar, Battle of Walaja, Battle of Ulleis, Battle of Hirah, Battle of Anbar, Battle of Ein, Battle of Daumatul Jandal, Battle of Firaz.
634: Battle of Basra, Battle of Damascus, Battle of Ajnadin. Death of Abu Bakr. Umar ibn al-Khattab becomes the Caliph. Battle of Namaraq, Battle of Saqatia.
635: Battle of Bridge, Battle of Buwaib, Conquest of Damascus, Battle of Fahl.
636: Battle of Yarmuk, Battle of Qadsiyia, Conquest of Madain.
637: Conquest of Syria, Conquest of Jerusalem, Battle of Jalula.
638: Conquest of Jazirah.
639: Conquest of Khuizistan. Advance into Egypt.
640: Battle of Babylon in Egypt.
641: Battle of Nihawand; Conquest of Alexandria in Egypt.
642: Battle of Rayy in Persia; Conquest of Egypt.
643: Conquest of Azarbaijan and Tabaristan (Russia).
644: Conquest of Fars, Kerman, Sistan, Mekran and Kharan. Death of Umar. Uthman ibn Affan becomes the Caliph.
646: Campaigns in Khurasan, Armeain and Asia Minor.
647: Campaigns in North Africa. Conquest of the island of Cyprus.
648: Campaigns against the Byzantines.
651: Naval battle of the Masts against the Byzantines.
652: Disaffection against the rule of Uthman.
656: Uthman is killed. Ali ibn Abi Talib becomes the Caliph. Battle of the Camel.
657: Ali shifts the capital from Medina to Kufa. Battle of Siffin.
658: Battle of Nahrawan.
659: Conquest of Egypt by Muawiyah I.
660: Ali recaptures Hijaz and Yemen from Muawiyah. Muawiyah I declares himself as the Caliph at Damascus.
661: Ali killed. Accession of Hasan bin Ali and his abdication. Muawiyah becomes the sole Caliph.
662: Kharijites revolts.
666: Raid of Sicily.
670: Advance in North Africa. Uqba bin Nafe founds the town of Qairowan in Tunisia. Conquest of Kabul.
672: Capture of the island of Rhodes. Campaigns in Khurasan.
674: The Muslims cross the Oxus. Bukhara becomes a vassal state.
677: Occupation of Samarkand and Tirmiz.
680: Death of Muawiyah. Yazid I becomes Caliph. Battle of Karbala and Husayn bin Ali is killed.
682: North Africa Uqba bin Nafe marches to the Atlantic, is ambushed and killed at Biskra. The Muslims evacuate Qairowan and withdraw to Burqa.
683: Death of Yazid. Muawiya II becomes Caliph.
684: Abd Allah ibn Zubayr declares himself as the Caliph at Mecca. Marwan I becomes the Caliph at Damascus. Battle of Marj Rahat.
685: Death of Marwan I. Abd al-Malik becomes the Caliph at Damascus. Battle of Ain ul Wada.
686: Mukhtar declares himself as the Caliph at Kufa.
687: Battle of Kufa between the forces of Mukhtar and Abd Allah ibn Zubayr. Mukhtar killed.
691: Battle of Deir ul Jaliq. Kufa falls to Abdul Malik.
692: The fall of Mecca. Death of ibn Zubayr. Abdul Malik becomes the sole Caliph.
695: Kharijites revolts in Jazira and Ahwaz. Battle of the Karun. Campaigns against Kahina in North Africa. The Muslims once again withdraw to Barqa. The Muslims advance in Transoxiana and occupy Kish.
700: Campaigns against the Berbers in North Africa.
AND YESTERDAY
LONDON
I grew up in Brixton,420 meters from the Oval tube staion
Insha'shiva,Let the PINK PIGS drop a few hundred tons of pig manure on the first site that the muslims invaded in year 630:
A great piece by Hitchens.
Hey...
Did anyone else see the picture of the 7/7 terrorists white water rafting recently?? Should jihadi muslims be enjoying Western leisure activities? They didn't seem to be 'angry'. They didn't look 'exploited'. They didn't seem concerned about the 'humiliation' suffered by their brother muslims in far away lands while laughing and having fun in the infidel West. Hypocrites. Never trust a muslim.
What cracks me up is the number of nobody's who claim to be terrorist-experts or counter-terrorism blow-boys,: The beep and CNN seems to pull them like rabbits out of a hat. A lot of gaga and none of them comes out with the word: ISLAM!
And inevitably, here comes the "civil liberties brigades" , green/red, choose your colour, and they just need to protect those poor Muzzies who came to cut their throats...
WD52,
From Hitchens' piece:
"The grievance of seeing unveiled women. The grievance of the existence, not of the State of Israel, but of the Jewish people. The grievance of the heresy of democracy, which impedes the imposition of sharia law...All of these have been proclaimed as a license to kill infidels or apostates, or anyone who just gets in the way."
Pretty much it, in a nutshell.
Thanks for the link.
stone cold dead
5 bullets in head
Now thats a good muslim
now here is a good one shot
http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/001726.html
of another good muslim
"Looks like he was ready to blow himself up until the .50 cal 'changed his mind'."
So his uncle is basically saying that a good Muslim is a dead Muslim? If that's the case, then I agree......
Now's when we should than all non-citizen muslims for their time (US and UK) but tell them sadly that all visa and residency programs have immediately ended. Bye Bye. As for muslims that are citizens, they should all be told they are being watched for any moves. Just as with the "asian" (muslim) who was shot this morning. Make a wrong move? BAM. Perhaps this will encourage the "asians" to move to a more suitable country.
Posted by: boxter at July 22, 2005 10:05 AM
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA I HAVE HEARD YET!!!
NOW EXPLAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT WHAT YOU BRITS CALL ASIANS ARE NOT ALWAYS CHINESE OR JAPANESE BUT PAKIS AND INDIANS???
WE THINK OF ASIANS AS CHINESE AND JAPANESE??
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13391824,00.html
'BOMBER LOOKED PETRIFIED'
Eyewitnesses have told of their face-to-face encounter with the suspected suicide bomber.
Mark Whitby said he was sitting on the Tube at Stockwell when the man ran in to the carriage.
He described suddenly hearing people shouting "get down, get down".
Mr Whitby said: "An Asian guy ran on to the train. As he ran, he was hotly pursued by what I knew to be three plain-clothes police officers.
"As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a cornered fox.
"He looked absolutely petrified.
"He half-tripped, was half-pushed to the floor.
"One of the police officers was holding a black automatic pistol in his left hand. They held it down to him and unloaded five shots into him. I saw it. He's dead, five shots, he's dead."
"I'm totally distraught," he added. "It was no more than five yards away from where I was sitting as I saw it with my own eyes."
Mr Whitby said the suspected bomber "looked like a Pakistani" and was wearing a baseball cap and a thick coat.
He added: "He was quite large, big built, quite a sort of chubby guy."
Teri Godly, who was also in the carriage when the suspected bomber boarded, said: "A tall Asian man with a beard and a rucksack got on after me.
"Then about eight or nine police with shotguns boarded after him and started shouting to us all 'get out, get out of the station'.
"People started screaming and we all started running quite calmly up the stairs. There were six or seven gun shots behind us. It was very surreal. No one was pushing or shoving. We were in a state of shock.
"It was only afterwards that I realised how lucky we had been."
Chris Wells, a 28-year-old company manager,
WHAT WAS THAT SONG BY TOBY??
LIKE RABBITS THEY RAN??
HOPE THEY HAD PIGS BLOOD ON THE BULLETS!!
Mr Whitby HE SHOULD BE THANKFUL HIS COUNTRY STILL HAS HEROS AND IS NOT ALL PUSSY'S AND PUPPYS???
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO STAY THE COURSE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN
PS
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
"London bomber was "a good Muslim . . ."
But not as good as Osama bin Whore, or Mohammed the Child Molester.
May God protect us from good moslems and even more so from excellent ones.
What a disgusting "religion"...
The only good moslem is a bad moslem!
Shiva,
...drop a few hundred tons of pig manure on the first site that the muslims invaded in year 630
That is exactly what I have been advocating for the past ten years!
Nuking mecca is efective, but ecologically undesirable. Pig shit wisely applied on the Kaaba Tumor will rid history of the islamic vomit!
SaveEurope said "well if this was a good Muslim...........you dont want to know about the bad ones"
The bad Muslims are the ones who say that it is okay to kill infidels in Iraq but not in London. The bad Muslims are the ones who say that jihadists accidentally killing Moslem women and children during an attack on infidels is wrong and must be avoided. The bad Muslims are the ones who say that OBL does not speak for Islam. The bad Muslims are the ones for whom "jihad" means an internal philosophical struggle.
The bad Muslims will be slaughtered like the rest of us by the good Muslims.
Or, at least that's what the good Muslims are thinking.
"Suffering of Muslims" - this excuse is one huge pile of excrement. Saddam gassed, murdered, tortured, exiled millions of Muslims. Where was the concern for the suffering Muslims? Or what kind of 'suffering' were these terrorists concerned about? Hitchens was right.
"London bomber was "a good Muslim . . ."
All we ever hear about these jihadiots from thier friends and families is how they are pillars of muslim society. Western goverments and media refuse to connect the dots (ALL TWO OF THEM!!!!) while mosques and imams continue to breed hate and violence. Just once I'd like to hear them say " he was a raving lunitic! constanly ranting about the jews and the infidel! Thats why we turned him over to the authorities before it was too late!"
Has there ever been a case a mosque has helped this way? I wonder why not?